Performance Tweaks for X-Plane 11 and MSFS 2020

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Q8Pilot

Q8Pilot

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@Josh-lq3jh
@Josh-lq3jh 4 жыл бұрын
Bro this is a amazing channel, you create content for two community’s, x plane and Mfs, good job dude
@jordividal3213
@jordividal3213 4 жыл бұрын
10900K@5.1Ghz, 128 Gb RAM, 3090 24Gb VRAM, 2Tb M2... Holly shit! And not getting 60FPS even with tweaks? It is 4K really worth it?
@RedShark493
@RedShark493 4 жыл бұрын
I do get stable 60FPS in FS 2020 with 2K monitor at 1440p and 144hz. The same hardware just my card is RTX 3080. Actually the game itself is limited to 60FPS, I am sure if they release the FPS in game code, my FPS will maxed out to 120-130 FPS. I do get 144 FPS in Xplane with the same quality settings provided on this video. I believe graphic cards are not ready to handle more than 40 FPS for such a game in 4K monitors resolution yet. Maybe RTX 5000 series of nvidia in the future.
@lagunosus
@lagunosus 3 жыл бұрын
@@RedShark493 Don't think so, maybe when they decide to upgrade to DirectX 12 we'll be able to get 4k 60 fps even on a 3070
@caribbaviator7058
@caribbaviator7058 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds normal for flight sims.Impossible to get 60fps in a software this complex
@jewhipp98
@jewhipp98 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks and great info. What are you using to display the FPS - CPU -Graphics performance on the screen? Thanks
@chkoba69
@chkoba69 4 жыл бұрын
follow
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
I use FPSMonitor, thanks for watching my friend!
@jewhipp98
@jewhipp98 4 жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Great channel. Thanks for doing the videos..... Happy New Year
@pilotembgamers4644
@pilotembgamers4644 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Q8, your videos are the best as always. Thanks for the tips! Have a safe and happy new year. Cheers.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, happy new year my friend!
@panteliskirkopoulos3364
@panteliskirkopoulos3364 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome tips! It really works. I gained 10-15FPS!!! Keep going mate!
@ronylanssiers7694
@ronylanssiers7694 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your suggestions. I applied same which resulted in a significant fps improvement.
@stevekravitz2635
@stevekravitz2635 4 жыл бұрын
These tweaks gave me a 6-8fps boost (was 46, now 52-54). Thank you Q8Pilot!
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Most welcome Steve, glad this has worked for you =)
@genisbibin8292
@genisbibin8292 3 жыл бұрын
Loved it!!! Great video. Those tweaks do make a significant difference in terms of performance.
@Glasairmell
@Glasairmell 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Q8pilot. Looks like I picked up around 4 FPS and more smoothness in X-Plane.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
That is really good to hear, I am glad it worked for you!
@omarijoseph3189
@omarijoseph3189 4 жыл бұрын
absolutely love that Q8Pilot intro...Happy New Years to you sir.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Omari! Happy New Year to you bro!
@Lionheart1157
@Lionheart1157 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, have taken note of your excellent recommendations. May I ask what cloud package you were using in X-plane, and is this your preference. Also, what made you go for 128Gb of RAM, does it really help for the sims? (I have a similar rig to you but with the RTX 3080 card and just 32Gb RAM). Thank you!
@aisclear
@aisclear 4 жыл бұрын
Captain what are you using for scenery lights? your road lights and street lights look awesome
@randcooley2865
@randcooley2865 4 жыл бұрын
Good decision on P3 You are simply the best at what you do . After 5 years I've come to depend on your reviews to have the best flight sim experience possible. Whether it's AC ,hardware or add-ons I turn to you as I 've never been disappointed. Happy New Year my friend to you and the family :) and I did buy MSFS 2020 because of you! :)
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
I wish you and your family the very best in the year ahead and you were one of the reasons I came back to flight simulation. Can't thank you enough. Stay well and safe my friend.
@tomgromko5641
@tomgromko5641 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Q8Pilot, could you please share your fps monitor scene layout if you don't mind? Thanks!
@IvanMelon
@IvanMelon 4 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year, Cpt. Glad to be the first. Thanks for your priceless content. Keep up the good work 😉
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Happy new year to you my friend. Thank you for watching and kind words!
@CoolayyyPlayz
@CoolayyyPlayz 3 жыл бұрын
Hey q8 you could raise your reflections up a few notches, your cpu usage is very low.
@jaysmith4302
@jaysmith4302 4 жыл бұрын
I'm using a pretty good, but not great gaming laptop with 3.4 GHz processor and 1080 graphics card. I was really struggling with X-plane until I turned off the AI airplanes and that gained me 20-30 FPS with settings the same as yours. I don't know what the effect of AI traffic is in FS 2020 since I haven,t turned it on, but in X-plane, it's dramatic.
@Dan360player
@Dan360player 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test. But why not testing with airliners which we all know have a much bigger impact on the fps. Also you sould choose overcast for the weather preset. All this stuff will kill the fps.
@photoeducationbydaniel
@photoeducationbydaniel 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, but you're using a GA aircraft, how about fly the FBW A320nx? I'm 100% positive the FPS is going to be very very different
@eyadalshakhshir8604
@eyadalshakhshir8604 4 жыл бұрын
Another good video bro, the best KZbinr ever and I really mean it.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words Eyad!
@순살뿌링
@순살뿌링 4 жыл бұрын
I just suggest you if you can make video about Toliss A321neo Update
@coolayyy8524
@coolayyy8524 3 жыл бұрын
0:58 it has completely eliminated the stuttering. also msfs2020: *stutters*
@baomao7243
@baomao7243 4 жыл бұрын
1:03 Hard to tell from viewing the video on a phone but the mention of ORBX scenery made me think this could be XP11. Then I saw the head-to-head takeoff by another GA plane and a big jet landing directly overhead. At that moment, I INSTANTLY* knew this was MSFS 2020. 😉 Great video. You have a stout PC. In my opinion, worth every penny. I tinker a lot to get FPS - thanks for the practical tips.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching my friend, Happy new year!
@FlightSim2703
@FlightSim2703 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, these settings worked for me awesome, you're incredible helpful I know you since last 4 years. ♥️🙏
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support Brian!
@kannanadamdevilliers3362
@kannanadamdevilliers3362 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video, how about threaded optimisation in NCVP? I see you have it set to off, any reasons why?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Never saw value of it really. In x-plane it causes stutters.
@bassrash
@bassrash 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great informative video. I would like to know which performance meter you have running. It is nice and easy to read.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
I use FPSMonitor. You can find it here fpsmon.com/en/
@bassrash
@bassrash 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for taking the time to let us know these tips!
@tomgromko5641
@tomgromko5641 4 жыл бұрын
I downloaded it but which "scene" are you using to get that format? Or did you create the format on your own?
@manusilverliner9399
@manusilverliner9399 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this super great video ! well done ! and congrats , may I know which app/feature you are using to display FPS values ( I have a Geforce RTX 2080 Super) ; Thank you and happy New Year !
@danc2353
@danc2353 3 жыл бұрын
What are you using for wind effect in xp11? i'm trying to get away from "flying on rails" , been flying XP for years, no good wind effects so far.
@AxmihaMeuSaco
@AxmihaMeuSaco 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have "graphic settings" on my W10. ?
@willemp6432
@willemp6432 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this one.Happy new year....
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year to you my friend, and thanks for watching!
@zensu94
@zensu94 4 жыл бұрын
Any tips for low GPU usage? Rtx 2080 super with latest drivers and its only 1-10% of usage...
@Dkentflyer
@Dkentflyer 4 жыл бұрын
Happy new year my friend, love these comparison type videos. What do you use for your x plane weather?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year to you =) I use X-Plane default weather for generation of weather, but I use xvision (impressive preset) for sky color, clouds, lights, and water effects.
@PeterBevington
@PeterBevington 3 жыл бұрын
What is the FPS counter plugin which you're using here ?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 3 жыл бұрын
FPSMonitor
@DieTabbi
@DieTabbi 3 жыл бұрын
How increase performance with Zibo or other aircrafts with deep simulation?
@leiflavebrink9639
@leiflavebrink9639 4 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year again Q8Pilot!! You are really our master !! With videos like this 2021 will be the best year ever!! Like all your material this is world-class, thanks for all your efforts!!
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you my dear friend Leif. Appreciate your constant encouragement and support!
@josephreed2728
@josephreed2728 4 жыл бұрын
On the Nvidia settings they are blanked out for me
@cleniolelys
@cleniolelys 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the wonderful tips and happy new year my friend.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Happy new year to you Silvio and thank you for your great support over the years!
@coolayyy8524
@coolayyy8524 3 жыл бұрын
hey q8 pilot, please read this info about your cpu. You did now overclock your cpu, you downclocked. the stock turbo speed for this cpu is 5.3 ghz and you said in the video that you "overclocked" to 5.1 ghz. A decent overclock would be to like 5.5 ghz but this cpu is probably not needing a overclock because it is a really good cpu and this cpu tends to get pretty hot. you might be able to get a better framerate by putting the speed to normal.
@josephreed2728
@josephreed2728 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot find the gpu scheduling anywhere on my computer
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
You need the latest version of windows and a capable graphics card.
@Virtual-CPT
@Virtual-CPT 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the video. I'm thinking about getting a 4k screen instead of my current Full HD screen. Do you know how bad the performance impact is? I'm running X-Plane on an AMD Ryzen 5 3600, with 32GB RAM and a GTX 1070 8GB. Unfortunately, I cannot afford such a great GPU as you have :-)
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
The 4K monitor will require power from the GPU for sure, but then you can seriously lower AA settings as you do not need them with 4K monitor.
@aureliomarsili3902
@aureliomarsili3902 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, i think with your SUPERCHARGED hardware you don't need any tweaks !!!
@waamamps
@waamamps 4 жыл бұрын
Hi in the Microsoft Sim what aircraft What are you flying thank you happy new year
@TheTallTurtle
@TheTallTurtle 4 жыл бұрын
Eh, in trying to add MSFS to my nVidia Program Settings, it says the exe is not able to be accessed. I am even an admin. Oh, well. More research required for me, I guess!
@The1PatSmith
@The1PatSmith 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings, Osamah, Did you go for the 3090 out of preference, or lack of availability of the 3080? I'm swaying toward the 3090 for its' memory and core-count, but in your opinion, do you think there is any significant advantage gained from a 3090 (I take it, you don't have a 3080). جديده سعيده
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Patrick and happy new year to you my friend. The 3090 offers only 20% more FPS in both simulation platforms. However, it is a robust card capable of delivering 8K video with ease. If you have other work you do on your PC such as massive rendering and video production, the 3090 is worth it. Otherwise stick with the 3080.
@The1PatSmith
@The1PatSmith 4 жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Thanks Osamah, I wish I had a dollar for every time I get tempted to hit the "buy" option for a 3090. Think I'll wait a bit longer for the availability to increase, and then get a better buy. The lower end 3080's sell for around US$ 1 250.00 over here in reputable retailers, that's around NZ$ 1 700.00, so patience will be the key to saving some $$$$$. My 2080ti is doing a steady job at the moment, soon to be water cooled. Thanks again for your wonderful contributions, and have a blessed 2021. - Cheers, - Pat.
@phillipbeharall6271
@phillipbeharall6271 4 жыл бұрын
As always excellent thank you 👏👏👏👏😀
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching my friend!
@modelrailwaynoob
@modelrailwaynoob 4 жыл бұрын
I will try those out. My 3090 should arrive Monday or Tuesday. I have the HP Reverb G2 to try and already play on flat using the same resolution as you but with an Asus RoG 34" monitor. I plan to upgrade to the Samsung G9 49" monitor at the same resolution soon. I still prefer X-Pane for flying but the MSFS eye candy is nice too.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Let me know how things work out for you. Happy New Year!
@captshark2153
@captshark2153 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bro, good information! Any way, I have a i9 10900K 5.3GHz, 32GB SDRAM, RTX3080. I get 50 Mbps on my internet connection that is hardwired to my router. My issue is that most areas with buildings have this triangular look to them at distance. Could this be my internet connection or game settings? I run 3840x2160, mostly high to ultra settings. I will try your settings next. Any way, any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks!
@Mr.Martini549
@Mr.Martini549 2 жыл бұрын
The one thing that can trip up people is add-on sceneries, weather injectors and payware planes can all cause degradation to fps rates.
@AgustinLaurito
@AgustinLaurito 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing, what lights do you use for XP11?? That looks stunning!!
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
I am using the xVision impressive for Lua script. The light mod that comes with this preset is amazing really. Thanks for watching!
@tombulva
@tombulva 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Q8Pilot xVision works with Vulkan?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
@@tombulva Yes but not the shaders. The rest of the mods work.
@tonycheng6478
@tonycheng6478 4 жыл бұрын
Can an i9-10900k run it without overclocking it?
@PilotAndrew
@PilotAndrew 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have the 10900 and it runs beautifully
@arribaperu9624
@arribaperu9624 4 жыл бұрын
Can u do the same video in p3d ? :)
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Sure yes!
@arribaperu9624
@arribaperu9624 4 жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Nice thank you :)
@vasily2022
@vasily2022 3 жыл бұрын
I have realized with xPlane that AA takes an exponential toll. Even more than any other sim. What works very well for me and gives me a constant above 30 fps (with ortho, payware everything even Ai)) is to use DSR and use a higher resolution than my ultrawide monitor so I can lower AA but have everything else on MAX. There are no jagged edges thanks to the higher resolution but less perf hit because of lower AA. AA is the real issue. If you take a flight through the clouds using ASXP in a populated area, the gain in fps when dropping AA is very substantial even at higher resolution. Works for my 4k monitor too but don't use it because once you go ultrawide, even 4k isn't good anymore. Rig:9900k @5.0 Ghz, 2080 Ti, 32 GB RAM.
@TheViper1198
@TheViper1198 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these tricks. I unfortunately can't seem to find MSFS in my Control Panel. I can however add the URL Shortcut (I bought the game via Steam) but I doubt that it works. Any Ideas?
@eds5709
@eds5709 4 жыл бұрын
I think you could right-click the shortcut and choose filemap in the menu, navigate there, and then find the .executable. Or right-ckick select properties and locate the .exe file. When you've found the .exe location just use browse in Nvidia Control panel. Of course after adding 'new application' (FS2020).
@TheViper1198
@TheViper1198 4 жыл бұрын
@@eds5709 Thank you for the help, dude. I found the .exe through the Steam option: properties>local files>browse. Hopefully it works now. :)
@AlexanderGarzon
@AlexanderGarzon 4 жыл бұрын
What is that performance overlay you have there?
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
FPSMonitor
@dinster762
@dinster762 4 жыл бұрын
Hi and Happy new year, for some reason under graphics settings i don't have the option of hardware-accelerated gpu scheduling, any ideas why?
@dash8dave476
@dash8dave476 4 жыл бұрын
me too
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
You need the latest version of windows and a compatible Graphic Card. If you don't see the option dont worry about it.
@dinomanolios3856
@dinomanolios3856 4 жыл бұрын
Weird, cause I have the latest windows and Nvidia drivers and using a zotac 3090, fortunately turning game mode off did give me about 8 fps. Now flying over athens greece gives me 50 fps on ultra and 1440p on a 34 inch ultrawide predator. Thank you very much for your dedication and great work.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
@@dinomanolios3856 Glad this has worked out for you.
@nunosantos2015
@nunosantos2015 4 жыл бұрын
My London city crashes everytimes on my rtx 3080 and i9 10850k I don't know why
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
I think you have some mod in your community folder causing the crash. Make sure you update all your mods or remove them and see if that helps.
@Richard.oo7
@Richard.oo7 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. On XP11 I have the same settings as you but have reflections set to low. Im on a 3700x with a GTX 1080 with 32GB RAM. I get more FPS than you in Vulcan.
@caribbaviator7058
@caribbaviator7058 3 жыл бұрын
3440x1440 take that into consideration
@andyholmes9485
@andyholmes9485 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam, appreciated
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching my friend! Happy New Year!
@harrysmith1986
@harrysmith1986 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, unfortunately for me and my system 9700k 2080ti, turning off GPU scheduleding lost me 50% of my frames. Turned back on and all good again. This was this case in MSFS. Xplane can't say I noticed either a decline or increase in performance. Thanks anyways. Cheers
@flo0000007
@flo0000007 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@paulphibbs7162
@paulphibbs7162 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips. Thanks.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Glad this has helped you!
@rccosplay3249
@rccosplay3249 4 жыл бұрын
MSFS 2020 is a extremely demanding game no doubt! BUT my ASUS RTX 3080 Tuf card & i9 10900KF CPU sure tames it @ 2K💖
@64Torsteinb
@64Torsteinb 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ilyaeydis5790
@ilyaeydis5790 4 жыл бұрын
Q8 you are awesome however issue with MSFS is jetliners not GA. I see a lot of performance tweak videos using GA examples and showing great performance/no stutters. Would love for you to show the same video using 320Nx. Also as an FYI, the part on GPU scheduling is not relevant for us still running Win 1909. I've been avoiding the newer versions until they iron out the kinks.
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
I get the same performance with A320. Smooth and never below 40 fps in most cases. Thanks for watching.
@josephreed2728
@josephreed2728 4 жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot so what say you have a lower GPU what could you change? On MSFS
@rakon8496
@rakon8496 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your content! Really like the ultrawide, it is much more impressive as 16:9
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching my friend, I kind of like the Ultra wide myself.
@SK-iw3pk
@SK-iw3pk 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and the addition of the cpu/gpu usage numbers. I should've waited for the 3080Ti instead of getting the 3080... Both sims use more than 10GB, with MSFS exceeding 15GB... The AMD cards have 16GB but they have issues with vulkan. Thanks again
@TheMarcellification
@TheMarcellification 4 жыл бұрын
Allocated VRAM is not actually used VRAM, so you cannot rely on those numbers.
@TheMarcellification
@TheMarcellification 4 жыл бұрын
Knowing the difference between allocated and used memory would already be a good start. No need to blame him, chill out. A 3080ti would be very expensive and very hard to find for at least another 6 months.
@TheMarcellification
@TheMarcellification 4 жыл бұрын
@@Greazer the 3080ti doesn't even officially exists yet! So yes supply will eventually catch up with demand...4/5/6 months after an announcement that is still unknown. You could easily be waiting until mid summer for a 3080ti at msrp (if ever).
@TheMarcellification
@TheMarcellification 4 жыл бұрын
@@Greazer the 2080ti? You mean the worst price to performance card nvidia ever released? Hope you haven't got one of those ...
@skyrider828
@skyrider828 4 жыл бұрын
@@Greazer That turned out to be a false story sadly. Apparently it was one nation's equivalent of April Fools Day!
@rafaelpisciottanoleitao1304
@rafaelpisciottanoleitao1304 4 жыл бұрын
"Game mode off" = That proves that XP11 and MSFS are not a game... LOL
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
=)
@baomao7243
@baomao7243 4 жыл бұрын
Gaming the game function... 🤔
@proplife1955
@proplife1955 4 жыл бұрын
Mfs 2020 is a game tho it just has graphics. Xplane is not a game tho
@andersonguilherm
@andersonguilherm 4 жыл бұрын
@@proplife1955 Hahaha
@Randomy5428
@Randomy5428 3 жыл бұрын
@@proplife1955 They both can be used as games.Xplane is a great sim but it doesn't live up to a full flight sim.Basic things in a sim should proper rendition of weather.Something certainly absent in xplane Question is would I use both sims for real world training likely not.I find both sims it's too easy too land where in real life you constantly have to make corrections.
@ilo_captain4131
@ilo_captain4131 3 жыл бұрын
you have a very good pc!!!
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed =)
@AntonioFardella
@AntonioFardella 3 жыл бұрын
I don't undertand yet why there is such concern about FPS. Human eye cannot see more than 25fps (hence fps in a normal movie is 26), a simulator that runs with 30fps should be quite enough. I am more concerns about jittering and stuttering (which cause a micro-pause that bothers on the long distance). Thank you for your video though. It's been very interesting for my case.
@Gro2healthheirlooms
@Gro2healthheirlooms 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes!!! I don't own a 3000 series graphics card! I only have a 2070 and I'm looking forward to flying helicopters in VR. I'm looking forward to upgrading to a 3080. Thanks
@eleniogomez3600
@eleniogomez3600 4 жыл бұрын
Una belleza.(pretty and usefull)
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks =)
@gibanica87
@gibanica87 3 жыл бұрын
When he launched xplane11 it was like a cartoon after msfs20
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 3 жыл бұрын
X-Plane still rocks in my view =)
@caiazzo123
@caiazzo123 4 жыл бұрын
🙏👍🏽
@VICTORHUGO1860
@VICTORHUGO1860 4 жыл бұрын
hAPPY nEW yEAR MY FRIEND .
@iNeoN50
@iNeoN50 4 жыл бұрын
7:55 this proofs a statement that MSFS is not a GAME, it's the SIMULATOR. LOL =D
@Q8Pilot
@Q8Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
=)
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