Perfume Formulation - Trial Batches & Testing Womens Spring Fragrance

One of the many trial batches I'm going through for a fragrance concept of a Womens Springtime 'fruity/green/floral/sweet' perfume.
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[@markjacoby5607]

Fun video and the fastest 47 minutes ever. Thank you for walking us through your thought process.

[@kateasker]

Hey BK this was great !!! 😁 Thank you so much for sharing 🙏

[@simonstergaard]

Just found your channel, and i like it. Gonna get my perfume-organ lined up again.

[@FZKM]

Hey BK good see you...excellent formulation...

[@MarcusTi.]

nice i really like this videos

[@adriansumner1412]

Amber accord can give reasonable performance Siam benzoin resinoid, copal, Labdanum. Can add a powdery dispersion..

[@kurush61]

Re: Myrac Aldehyde - it’s funny but I do find that I can use this at a pretty high amount! My latest fragrance used it at 0.5% of concentrate and found that it supported my orange top note very well.

[@bkscents7050]

speaking of high amount aldehydes...you should try Aldehyde Supra or Intraleven Aldehyde....potent stuff! I have to use em pre-diluted down to 0.1%!

[@wib6044]

Thanks! My shopping list just got bigger!😂. I’m waiting on oud from ensar, and I think that honey material you mentioned would work well with it.

[@bkscents7050]

That Honey Signature from Firmenich is the bees knees....😁

[@wib6044]

I couldn’t find it on PE. Just read comment below, so I’ll have to wait and get from the other supplier. 🙃

[@adriansumner1412]

I think what I've found is that with your greens, corriander works so well in the modifier section, it just works its gonna provide all the essentials to make your fruity notes sing, it's like your maestro to your sopranos. In perfermry their seems to be a lot of attention on Rose and Jasmine and they do play a significant role depending on what your aiming for. But for me Corriander to the top is like the equivalent to Vetiver in the bass, but once again may not always be this way but they are good directors in the perfumery symphony.

[@wib6044]

Hmm have to check it out.

[@adriansumner1412]

@@wib6044 yeah coriander works well as a supurb blender especially if you team it up with a Pear base. It works so well since it yields a portion of woodiness, Musk and Linalool plus a dash of herb and spice.

[@wib6044]

Is it coriander seed? That’s all I see.

[@adriansumner1412]

@@wib6044 yeah just coriander oil.

[@adriansumner1412]

Diluted ethyl maltol would work well also

[@laurenbray8314]

I bought honey signature because of you recommending it before. That stuff is insanely realistic! Its like you shoved your face into a jar of the highest quality fresh honey. And perfumers supply has a pretty decent price on it too.

[@bkscents7050]

It really is pretty damn good stuff. 😁

[@caseyw1050]

Do you ever measure in grams? I want to stop using plastic droppers but not sure how to clean my glass droppers without contamination 🤔 sweet video!!

[@dhperfumes3524]

I really like this vids but have a bunch of questions: - are all your bottles in this video pre-dilutions of 10% or are they neat or are they a combination? - there are a lot of 1/1000 pts from aldehydes to ozonics to E.Maltal. While the parts are the same are the projections different? With doses so low, would you really notice if you take them out of the formula? - How long do you particularly work on a single formula? E.g. for this one you said two weeks, but how many versions did you make before you were happy with the final version and how long do you let maturation go for? - Does the 1000pts include the alcohol or just the concentrate?

[@bkscents7050]

1,000 pt formula is just the concentrate alone, excluding any dilutions. And yes, things at 1/1,000 are because they are either super strong in scent...or I just wanted to add a touch of it for "feel" rather than using it to impart a scent. I use my materials in my trials prediluted at many different levels (0.1% - 50%) depending on the material

[@superaak]

Can you please share complete formula in description Tx

[@GMComposerTV]

What do you mean when you refer to measurements as 1 part of 1000? Is that standard practice in perfumary?

[@gaara2960]

Thats a very nice Video. I wanted to ask if you use 1/1000 of Ethyl Maltol, you use it in 10 percent dilution that mean you drop 0,1gramms of that 10% inside?

[@bkscents7050]

When I read off my formula, I'm reading off what the raw material is (excluding any dilutions)....this way anyone can follow along and use whatever dilution ratio they please and who exactly how much if the raw material is in the formula

[@asenetrodriguez6170]

What synthetic fragrance is washed coral?

[@satisfividz]

I m a huge fan of your work. Really impressive and encourages me to enter this lovely world. But can you please guide me how to use this 1000 formula because I can't under stand how I usually do my formula with drops only. Thanks again and keeping going my Friend 🌹🌹❤️

[@wib6044]

If your using drops, make sure you are using same size pipettes for every ingredient. I recently started using scale, and some of my materials are in bottles with orifice in bottle, and some I use Pipettes. The orifice drops are double the weight on average. To convert into parts per thousand... 1. Add up all the drops that the total formula contains. Let’s say you have 33 total drops using 10 different oils. 2. Take the total drops of each ingredient and divide by the total number of drops in the formula. Let’s say you used 10 drops of bergamot for oil #1. So 10 divided by 33 = .3030... 3.then multiply that by 1,000 = 303.0303...so this formula contains roughly 303 parts of bergamot per thousand. 4. Do this with each of the 10 ingredients and you will have a total of 1,000.

[@satisfividz]

@@wib6044 Thank you so much. That helps me aloooot. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@syednaseer4078]

You are too good sir Make news videos

[@chriztinamarie]

nice hat! 😍

[@bkscents7050]

It's so bright RED

[@laurenbray8314]

As a woman I really love ambroxan in stuff I'd wear. My signature fragrance is a feminine leaning unisex ambroxan and ambrette based perfume. I even wear it to bed.

[@wib6044]

Yea I’ve noticed women really like it. My wife and her friends like it and Ambergris biolandes. It smells like dental flood after it’s been used, but they go nuts over it. Bizarre.

[@Press4ward_]

What does 1 part per 1000 mean

[@alissac6161]

Great vid- !! Are you going to add alcohol to that first, and then pit it in the sample bottle to test it?

[@bkscents7050]

When i do trial batches, im using pre-diluted materials that already have alcohol in them. No need to add any more alcohol to the blend when I use pre-diluted stuff ;)

[@Alternatizm]

Hi I have found your channel a month ago and I do really enjoy watching. If you don't mind, I have some questions about your trips: 1. How long you need to leave the pre-dilution to be able use? 2. When you put Perfume alcohol into your solution, do you calculate including dilution i.e if your solution has 5ml raw material and 0.2ml DPG (dilution), you calculate to put alcohol from the solution of 5ml or 5.2ml ? 3. I could not find any Perfume alcohol in my country, can I only use DEP 96 to 99% ? A big thanks for your help ☺️

[@bkscents7050]

1) once a material is prediluted, it's ready to use immediately. 2) when prediluting something that already has a dilutant in it....you have to add and consider that in account for the total dilution of the material 3) for alcohol, you really should be using 200 proof SDA-40B ethyl alcohol....I wouldn't bother using anything else.

[@Alternatizm]

@@bkscents7050 Many thanks and sorry to keep bothering you. I would like to be clear on 2). It means that I need to calculate the total amount of 5.2ml (raw material+dilutant) and work out on Perfume alcohol to have the concentrate at 20% (example) so in this case I will put 20.8ml of Alcohol, is it correct?

[@bkscents7050]

Sounds to me like you could benefit from using my formula calculator. It does all the math for you, - kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4vWhqGkg6l5frM

[@Alternatizm]

@@bkscents7050 super thanks!

[@rjnjewels7254]

Is on attar also ethnyl alcohol are used

[@wib6044]

I think attars are pure oils. That is why they are more expensive and come in smaller bottles. I’ve made some of my blends with coconut oil to dilute and save on materials. They smell like an entirely different formulation. The alcohol definitely makes them better in my opinion.

[@riccardotodde5817]

Hey BK i'm tryng to add some iso e super, hedione and ethylene brassylate to my perfume formula but, every time i put some of those i find that the main perfume smell it's gone and all the chemicals takes over, even if they are just 1 % on the fragrance concentrate. Do you know why this happens? it is maybe because i use only natural materials?

[@wib6044]

I haven’t used EB but I know with ISO E and Heidione, you have to allow time to mature and even macerate once the alchohol is added. Wait a minimum of 48 hours before you test the formula. I don’t do tester strips or pre smell because it doesn’t give me any indication of what the final formula will smell like. The synthetics will usually be most evident at first, but after time, especially those two, will fade into the background. You can also try making a blend of those three and adding in one part of the blend to dilute further.

[@riccardotodde5817]

@@wib6044 Oh so it's about maceration, that's where i was making mistakes!, thanks a lot for your answer :-)

[@wib6044]

That has been the case with me at least. It’s amazing what the oils do when you leave them for a while. Especially the heavier base notes it seems need some time to come through. I actually just watched a video with Roja talking about this. Naturals need more time to macerate. Let us know how it turns out.

[@riccardotodde5817]

@@wib6044 I have made a blend with the same amount od hedione, IES and EB and you where completely right! they need some rest before the smelling test. Can you link the roja's video, i am pretty curious about it

[@wib6044]

Oh cool! Yea this was a bit frustration for the opposite reason. I really wanted iso e to come through and it kept fading into background. It seems certain oils only work to keep that smell. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4KtlJmDa5x4r6c It was just a quick side mention around 10 minute mark about storage.

[@FZKM]

BK how Ambroxan smell?

[@bkscents7050]

Like a slight ambergris, with a clean shower-gel like vibe

[@wib6044]

Can’t wait to try it then. I went with cetalox per his description in previous video. Having now smelled a ambergris accord formulation, that sounds interesting!

[@bkscents7050]

Cetalox and ambroxan are so close in scent, most people can't tell them apart. But I actually prefer cetalox over Ambroxan

[@GMComposerTV]

What do you mean when you refer to measurements as 1 part of 1000? Is that standard practice in perfumary?

[@bkscents7050]

Yes it is. It's another way of saying percentage, but with more accuracy and detail. Some people say "I used olibanum oil at 1% in this formula"....which equates to 1 part per hundred, or 10 parts per thousand .

[@GMComposerTV]

@@bkscents7050Oh thanks for the answer. I think there's something wrong either with my equipment or with my calculations, cuz the data don't seem to match. But I created today my first eau de perfume. Or.... tried. Y'know. I have some questions I would like to ask in private. Can I send you a message?

[@wib6044]

Your formula will not add up to exactly 1,000 if you are using a calculator and pen. If you’re calculating your formula, it most likely weighs something like 2.354 grams of material. When you do the math you probably fall short a couple milligrams. The calculator will have 4-5 digits after that number, when you divide and you are only writing down .001 when it reads .00127334. Even when you copy a formula that weights exactly 10 grams let’s say. When you drop out that 100 parts per thousand material the scale will read 1.002 if you’re real precise. If you had a pipette that could drop to the nano gram you could do it. But when you copy formulas it is almost impossible to get to the milligram.

[@GMComposerTV]

@@wib6044 thank you