WORLD WAR II U.S. COAST GUARD CONVOY OPERATIONS FILM "TASK FORCE" BATTLE OF THE ATLANTIC 72024

[@jerrygundecker743]

Those poor musicians who made dramatic music for the war effort and our boys in blue. God bless them, they did their part, too.

[@jackwhite9395]

This is not the battle of the Atlantic. It's in the Pacific Theater.

[@sarjim4381]

Right. What would the Coast Guard know about a movie they participated in and acted as technical advisors? The Treasury class cutters never did escort duty in the Pacific. They were part of the "Bloody Winter" of 1942-43 during the North Atlantic convoy runs. The USCGC Hamilton was the only Treasury class cutter to be lost in the war, torpedoed off Iceland in 1942 by a German sub. This happened during one of those North Atlantic escorts. The only cutter to spend most her WWII career in the Pacific was USCGC Taney, and that wasn't generally as a convoy escort. Just in case you still think you're right, go to bklyn.newspapers.com/clip/12083308/task_force_movie_news/ and let me know of you see "Pacific" anywhere in the story.

[@PhilipShawn]

"know-how"

[@sarjim4381]

I don't know why this is so common in WWII films, but bombs really don't make that whistling noise. Yout first clue a bomb has been dropped is when it explodes.

[@pizzafrenzyman]

The US always had air superiority over its invasions, so the landing forces never heard a Japanese bomb to know if it whistled or not. Just to clarify, the bomb design dictates whether or not it would have a whistling sound. The stabilizing fins can make noise as the air passes across its leading edge if it is shaped like a whistle. Think about a pipe organ with a fluted edge at the base and an open end at the top. The air passes through creating an audible note. To the listener on the ground the pitch would increase as it nears. The recordings we hear on video have a Doppler effect of the bomb moving away from the recording device. Many types of bombs had a propeller fuzes, but these were small and probably didn't create a significant audible hiss (I suppose if the receiver heard it, then they didn't live to tell about it). High velocity artillery and naval gunnery shells would also make cracking noises as they displaced air on the way to the target. Depending on the speed and rotation, the receiver would hear a woooooooooosh-Boom! or woosh-woosh-woosh-woosh-Boom! As technology became more lethal and advanced, any projectile moving faster than the speed of sound would be seen, and not heard.

[@sarjim4381]

@@pizzafrenzyman That's a long post to show you have no idea what you're talking about. First, we didn't have to transport troops across the Atlantic to land on a Japanese held island. The operation shown was either North Africa or Sicily. Secondly, ask the Marines who landed at Guadalcanal about our air superiority. Ask the Marines and Army about air superiority and the lack of Japanese bombs in the New Guinea and Solomons campaigns. Lastly, unless a bomb has a whistling device attached to it, as the Italians did in the Ethiopian invasion, bombs don't make whistling noises.

[@pizzafrenzyman]

@@sarjim4381 Sounds like somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. I thought our conversation was about whistling bombs, but OK, let's pivot. Here is what we see: At 8:03 you will see a Japanese submarine. At 8:37 you will see a German U-Boat, and unknown Sub at 8:49 (keep in mind the video references "Sub" and "Submarine" not "U-Boat" as in the video description). 11:00 we see a map, location is anybody's guess. 11:23 we see an Armor Division patch, which is definitely Europe/Africa. At 11:31 we see 3rd Infantry which implies North Africa or Sicily. You will see a fast fleet carrier at 12:02. This footage is from the Pacific since the carrier is not the Ranger or Wasp. Shortly after that we see carrier aircraft with late 1942 markings, could be anywhere. 14:32 Jungle camo gear - Pacific bound. 14:53 training for a landing. 16:55 not likely to be anywhere in the Pacific for the time frame of the video. To summarize this movie is a conglomeration of stock footage from all theaters, not necessarily Pacific, Europe, or Africa. I saw the Jap sub and the fast fleet carrier, and that set my initial viewpoint. Air superiority: The marines landed on Guadalcanal unmolested by Japanese air attack. The ships supporting the landing were attacked, but not the forces on the beach as we see in the video. The nearest operational Japanese airbases were on Bougainville (ignoring the seaplane bases at Tulagi and Rekata bay), too far away to impact the landings on Day 1. By the time MacArthur started retaking New Guinea, he had air superiority for his sea landings. Ditto for the South Pacific forces moving up the Solomon's chain. Both utilized land based air to soften Japanese airdromes that could mount counter attacks, then land based fighters would fly cover over the beaches. Can you site one example anywhere when an opposing bomb dropped by air landed on a US landing force on the beach? Whistling bombs: i.stack.imgur.com/FOOuD.png Please note part 15. It is in the shape of a whistle or pipe organ. As air passes through the fin, it will sing a note. I stand by my original comments, just re-read it. So you accuse me of not knowing what I'm talking about, but it seems that you're short on bomb whistling research.

[@danbushman7509]

Oh no, they don't whistle. I'm scarred for life, all these years believing a lie.

[@joegibson4946]

@@pizzafrenzyman A few years late, but, Japanese submarines were known to operate in the Atlantic. They did not attack convoys though as they were used to smuggle gold and supplies between Germany and Japan.