Automatic whole-body CT segmentation in 2 minutes using 3D Slicer and TotalSegmentator

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PerkLab Research

PerkLab Research

Күн бұрын

Short tutorial of 3D Slicer's TotalSegmentator extension that can segment over 100 structures in any whole-body (chest/abdominal) CT image in about 2 minutes. Only free, restriction-free, open-source software is used.
3D Slicer extension:
github.com/las...
TotalSegmentator:
github.com/was...
3D Slicer:
www.slicer.org
Installation instructions:
github.com/las...
Any questions or comments?
discourse.slic...
If you use the TotalSegmentator in your research, please cite: Wasserthal J., Meyer M., , Hanns-Christian Breit H.C., Cyriac J., Shan Y., Segeroth, M.: TotalSegmentator: robust segmentation of 104 anatomical structures in CT images. arxiv.org/abs/...

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@__-pl3jg
@__-pl3jg 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video...Quick with a lot of useful info. Thanks for sharing. I'll try segmenting my colon as soon as I get off work today.
@medec021
@medec021 Жыл бұрын
Totalsegmentator is an amazing AI tool and now in a great 3D Slicer extension. Very good tutorial. You can slow it down a bit if you are new to Slicer.
@brad8122
@brad8122 Жыл бұрын
But is it real though? It raised lots of questions for me. I am seeing lots of wavy structures on a kidney surface, also lots of spikes? Why can it not show urinary tract canals for example? Can I train it to show those little details too?
@PerkLabResearch
@PerkLabResearch Жыл бұрын
@@brad8122 If you disable fast mode then the result is smooth. You can of course also improve the segmentation and retrain, but that may be significant effort.
@brad8122
@brad8122 Жыл бұрын
@@PerkLabResearch sorry I have another question. Can we use MRI data and 3D segment it like this? Any Totalsegmentator alternatives but for MRI ? In MRI bones have very little signal as opposed to CT
@doctor.alexandru
@doctor.alexandru 18 күн бұрын
When do you think something similar for full Brain MRI will be available? I know there's something similar in FreeSurfer, but it takes too long to segment everything...
@nlarragueta
@nlarragueta 5 ай бұрын
It is possible to use with Jupyter notebook? where can I find the documentation? Thank you!
@chinonsopromise4962
@chinonsopromise4962 Жыл бұрын
I tried exporting with OpenAnatomy export, it just outputs a file that has nothing inside. What could be the issue please
@АндрейГубарев-х9ю
@АндрейГубарев-х9ю 3 ай бұрын
Does it show(render) urinary tract?
@Facts-o-phile
@Facts-o-phile 3 ай бұрын
what is the last software you used to hide the meshes ??
@JOc17KER
@JOc17KER Жыл бұрын
can we just select the tibial bone using totalsegmentator?
@JOc17KER
@JOc17KER Жыл бұрын
please someone enlighten me how to manually adding "weigth" to TotalSegmentator.
@AndrasLasso
@AndrasLasso Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by "weigth"?
@JOc17KER
@JOc17KER Жыл бұрын
@@AndrasLasso i was requesting the extension of totalsegmentator for bone. I got the link to download the package of bone extension. But i don't how to install it to be used in 3D Slicer.
@SharinganKakashi-x2o
@SharinganKakashi-x2o Жыл бұрын
It works well for CT Abdomen, but I'm struggling to get good results with a CT brain. Any suggestions for that?
@AndrasLasso
@AndrasLasso Жыл бұрын
TotalSegmentator is for whole-body CT scans. If the head is visible then it just aims for segmenting the face area so that you can remove the face from scans. For head CTs you need specialized scans and there is a wide variety of segmentation goals that you need to address with specialized models (e.g., segmenting teeth or detect bleeding in the brain are completely different tasks). Maybe specialized models will be added to TotalSegmentator, but probably they will not be freely available. You can use MONAILabel module in Slicer to train your own model from your data.
@ykChen-j7t
@ykChen-j7t 7 ай бұрын
Hi, when will you be able to introduce the function of appendix image segmentation
@AndrasLasso
@AndrasLasso 7 ай бұрын
It seems that nnunet and monai auto3dseg model can learn any 3d segmentation task - all you need is to provide training data. So, if you can segment the appendix in a few hundred CTs (and then apply that model to segment 2000 CTs and fix any errors that you find in those) then you can get a model that will segment the appendix fully automatically in practically any CT image.
@SilasC
@SilasC Жыл бұрын
Although I get excellent results with 3D Slicer sample, I see that with my patients CT it never do all their Scapula, what is weird for me as it is so easy to get bones with the Threshold.
@AndrasLasso
@AndrasLasso 7 ай бұрын
Maybe something is special about your CT images, something looks different than in all the images that TotalSegmentator was trained on. You can improve the model by adding your images (with your segmentations) to the training data set and train a new model.
@inhibited44
@inhibited44 6 ай бұрын
Loaded my ct scans on here to have a look. I get an error about geometry and spacing. Nothing but flat lines displayed yet when I scroll I can see there is data changing in the displayed line. Must be an issue with the data from the scanner at the hospital. Another software wouldn't load it either. Used the latest version not 3dslicer 5.2.1
@inhibited44
@inhibited44 6 ай бұрын
my ct scans are easily displayed using autorun on the dvd, but can't see them using this .
@inhibited44
@inhibited44 6 ай бұрын
uninstalled recent version 5.7 or whatever and it worked fine with version 5.6.0
@AndrasLasso
@AndrasLasso 6 ай бұрын
Skewed images (where the image axes are not orthogonal) are rejected by many algorithms. You can harden any transform that is applied to the volume (e.g., due to tilted gantry or non-uniform slice spacing) and/or use Crop volume module to resample the image to a regular grid. Use latest Slicer Preview Release or latest Slicer Stable Release.
@censhi
@censhi 10 ай бұрын
I have erorr in download totalsgmentor
@PerkLabResearch
@PerkLabResearch 10 ай бұрын
Please post your question with more details (e.g., the full error message) to the Slicer forum - discourse.slicer.org
@bayeballasy7949
@bayeballasy7949 Жыл бұрын
Hello. very nice ! What's the system requierments for this extension ?
@AndrasLasso
@AndrasLasso Жыл бұрын
Any computer that you bought in the last 5 years can run it. No GPU is needed.
@abersali9937
@abersali9937 Жыл бұрын
Oh waw that's 🤩
@Dr.LW.
@Dr.LW. Жыл бұрын
It could not work well on ubuntu system.
@dr.luislehmann645
@dr.luislehmann645 10 ай бұрын
I cannot find it in the Extensions Manager, is there any other way to install it?
@AndrasLasso
@AndrasLasso 10 ай бұрын
You need to use latest Slicer Stable Release or latest Slicer Preview Release.
@KaMI_NIE
@KaMI_NIE Жыл бұрын
Why can't we extract the lower arms and legs?
@AndrasLasso
@AndrasLasso Жыл бұрын
You may need to get the latest development version of TotalSegmentator. It is available for the latest Slicer Stable Release and latest Slicer Preview Release.
@KaMI_NIE
@KaMI_NIE Жыл бұрын
@@AndrasLasso But I see that the version of TotalSegementator in Slicer is Published on Wed Aug 02 2023, which is the latest!
@AndrasLasso
@AndrasLasso Жыл бұрын
@@KaMI_NIE Aug 2 is two weeks old. You need the latest.
@xaviertrelles518
@xaviertrelles518 Жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me how to install totalsegmentator?
@PerkLabResearch
@PerkLabResearch Жыл бұрын
See its documentation: github.com/lassoan/SlicerTotalSegmentator#setup Post any questions on the Slicer forum: discourse.slicer.org
@chinonsopromise4962
@chinonsopromise4962 Жыл бұрын
I just ran a simulation now from this extension and the output i got is so rough and low poly, what can i do to make or improve the output to something better and smoother. Please I need your help
@AndrasLasso
@AndrasLasso Жыл бұрын
Make sure that you use the full-resolution mode (disable "fast" mode). You then get 1.25mm isotropic resolution.
@chinonsopromise4962
@chinonsopromise4962 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrasLasso I didn't simulate with fast mode, that's why I'm surprised at the result I got. After almost 1hr of simulation it still came out low poly
@AndrasLasso
@AndrasLasso Жыл бұрын
​@@chinonsopromise4962 TotalSegmentator does not generate polys. It creates a labelmap volume. Segmentation is converted to polygonal mesh (millions of triangles, I would not call low poly) and finally OpenAnatomy Export can decimate and export the meshes. You can set "Reduction factor" to a smaller value to preserve more triangles.
@SilasC
@SilasC Жыл бұрын
@@AndrasLasso I understand ​the other user frustration, I'm also not using the Fast option, and the voxel are visible larger than expect, like it need to use Smooth to look more like my normal results using Thresholds.
@AndrasLasso
@AndrasLasso Жыл бұрын
@@SilasC Thresholding uses the resolution of the segmented image. TotalSegmentator uses 1.25mm voxel size. If you need finer details for specific structures then you can use TotalSegmentator to extract the bounding box of the structure and then you can train a new model to extract only that structure in that small region.
@biomodelos3d995
@biomodelos3d995 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!
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