Permanently Lost Media That You'll Never See (Vol. 1)

The beauty of lost media is that not all media is completely lost and still has a chance of reocovery, but some media, for one reason or another, is irretrievably lost, and will never be seen by the public again. Here is a list of just some media that may very well be lost forever.
Edit: YES, I know Smosh got back together after this video came out. Please leave me alone
Seconed Edit: Even though this video has been up for almost a month, only now did the the BBC decide that one of the segments infringed on their copyright. I guess they don't like to see anyone doing well when their content is involved. Sorry for the inconvenience
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[@silvereagle2061]

There was a spanish teleplay serial of "The Picture of Dorian Gray" that is lost forever. It ran in the 1970s and I used to watch it with my grandmother who was Puerto Rican on one of the spanish TV channels. It ran like a soap opera similar to Dark Shadows.

[@sjdrifter72]

I remember watching a tv film that was made from several episodes from the the serial in the early 1980's on KMEX Channel 34 in Los Angeles. I can't believe it's lost now!

[@user-kw7mr6xt9n]

DARK SHADOWS MY BELOVED sorry i know that's not really relevant it's just. so rare to see that show mentioned in the wild

[@tyrannosuperior5248]

There's just something haunting about any lost media. Permanently lost media is like staring into the abyss.

[@shannon9993]

It's that awareness of mortality/timeflow...

[@circleancopan7748]

And the abyss stares at you.

[@StellarAvenger]

This is why media preservation is important.

[@laurachapple6795]

Going from 'obscure old series' and 'lost Dr. Who episodes' to Steve Irwin Death Tape was a heck of a turn.

[@VinnieRattolle]

They found Orson Welles' "Too Much Johnson" under truly bizarre circumstances. He claimed that the only print was destroyed in a fire. While it's true that most of this stuff may never be found, it still makes me think that anything has the potential to resurface.

[@fernandomaron87]

Well, they also found scenes of the legendary lost film 'Theda Bara's Cleopatra' just a few years ago, i say nothing is impossible.

[@futurestoryteller]

Put it this way: any one thing has the potential to resurface, but nobody is reconstructing the entirety of Doctor Who without a time machine. So some things really are lost forever

[@leeah7743]

I want you to know your video is being pushed to lost media lovers front page's, I hope you get the recognition you deserve, great job with this!

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

:)

[@hatednyc]

You’re a champion for making this comment.

[@philversion1383]

This is why I'm here :-) - Great work sir

[@Apanblod]

"Dr. Who needs no introduction." _Goes on to provide an extensive introduction to the show._ 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@love-giftofafairytale3849]

I specialize in adaptations of a story and get so many questions about 7 BBC productions 30s-50s. It boggles people's minds that 3 were probably junked and 4 were probably never recorded in the first place. It's insane to think how much content the BBC produced that is just gone forever.

[@bloodrunsclear]

This is happening today. Disney released a movie called Crater which was a ratings disaster, so they took it down and have no plans to make a DVD. That’s fifty million dollars completely gone.

[@futurestoryteller]

Amazingly too the laws only protect their rights as a corporation to do whatever they want with their media, and have no real interest in preservation. By all accounts the movie was unimpressive, but otherwise fine. Movies with worse reception have gone on to become cult classics, if nothing else, but they have no interest in allowing people to find hidden gems, and there is nothing stopping them from destroying it forever. Worse yet, that's not even the tip of the iceberg. Disney and Warner Bros. in particular are wiping dozens of movies and shows off the cultural map on a consistant basis. Including mostly critically panned efforts, such as the TV adaptation of "The Right Stuff"; and of course - infamously - critical darlings in some cases, such as the TV adaptation of "Westworld" It should quite literally in my mind, be illegal not to release this media in some form. Corporate entities when pulling media off the market should be required to announce a timeline of their intentions, and if they have none, relinquish the copyright for the work and/or otherwise submit it to be indefinitely archived.

[@Steve_P_B]

And they wonder why Disney has racked up losses to the tune of nearly $900 million.

[@futurestoryteller]

@@Steve_P_B The Media: Film & TV are dying! They're on the verge of collapse, at this very second! The People: Yeah but haven't you been saying that since like at least the 1980s? The Media: Yeah, but this time it's true look at these numbers. Ant-Man and Wasp performed below _expectations!_ The Executives: The most profitable thing to do with all these movies and TV shows we've spent literally hundreds of millions of dollars on is never once show them to anybody. The Creatives: What about this stuff we made that a lot of people have watched and already like a lot? The Executives: Wait!? What!? We showed that to people?!! Get rid of it, make sure no one ever gets the chance to buy a copy. I mean really: 1. Complain about the death of cinema 2. Destroy cinema. 3. ??? 4. Profit?

[@Steve_P_B]

@@futurestoryteller end of the day, the numbers don't lie. And nearly $900 million in losses is still nearly $900 million in losses.

[@futurestoryteller]

@@Steve_P_B I... don't really get why you don't seem to understand at all what I'm saying but... whatever, I guess it doesn't really matter anyway.

[@Rinsankajugin]

I wonder if Toho still has the Human suits. It'd be pretty neat if they brought the characters back for some sort of reboot movie or return special.

[@peterstangl8295]

i love the tonal whiplash of the R rated Smosh Movie right after the lost Apollo 11 footage 😂

[@garym6315]

I was reading about missing Avengers episodes recently and it made me realise how lucky I am as a Doctor Who fan to have off-air audio for every missing story alongside scripts, telesnaps, photos, production documents, novelisations etc. It's hard to believe that other shows don't even have copies of the scripts or production documents to say what the episodes were about

[@tobiwalker7145]

I'd watch a video that was exclusively a deep dive into Doctor Who missing bits but this was an unexpected find, thank you.

[@geraldmartin7703]

I remember watching the fuzzy Apollo11 footage as it was telecast from the moon. Impressed at the event; not at all at the image on television.

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

The whiplash I felt from the Apollo 11 tapes being lost to Smosh the movie cannot be understated

[@TonksMoriarty]

We're getting to the point now that some of that early Doctor Who is likely permanently lost. At least we have the audio for all episodes though, even the one we know we can never recover "Feast of Stephen".

[@AstonsVintageTechnologyWorkshp]

The saddest truth is that wiped tapes are unuseable, often containing splices which make recording on them inconsistent. VT engineers mostly followed orders from management to wipe them, but refused to reuse used tapes, as they would be blamed for the dropouts. Some VT engineers ;-) didn't follow orders and just tucked them away somewhere, still friends with a few. There is always hope to find old media that was walled up somewhere.

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

I hope that this is the case and we discover some lost magic one day

[@404TVfr]

Or they become really unstable. Look at the VHS release of Tomb Of The Cybermen. The pre-restoration footage shows the 2" tapes were in a horrible state when it was being telecined. Off-locks, dropouts, picture hops...

[@dawnsinclair926]

That Smosh information is funny these days

[@lautynicholas313]

Man, it just breaks my heart to see a piece of lost media to be PERMANENTLY LOST. 😢

[@futurestoryteller]

Anyone notice how a petty corporate obsession with copyright will ensure that lost media is never a thing of the past, or rather that they all might as well never have been a thing of the past, for the foreseeable future; probably in record numbers Video games movies, and especially streaming television is going to be lost forever.

[@TrevorMoses312]

There are two South African made films - Tokoloshe (1965) and Majuba (1968) - which were never correctly archived and Majuba had one hour removed from its' running time of 165 minutes by greedy exhibitors at MGM South Africa who wanted more screenings per day as it was a box office hit in its' day. Out of a total of 5 film reels of Tokoloshe - starring Sid James - only three remain and the excised footage was never reinserted into Majuba.

[@barfyman-wn3id]

In case you didn't hear, Smosh is back with Ian and Anthony. Just happened.

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

Literally just as I uploaded the video and scheduled it to drop haha

[@gotmybootyout5793]

The Television Ghost needs to be revived.

[@adz693]

'Madhouse On Castle Street' a one off 1963 play starring a young Bob Dylan on a visit to the UK is probably the most sought after of all the BBC's 60s Lost Media.

[@harrisonhepler9983]

this is a genuinely great video, amazing job. Keep this up

[@MrElwoodjayblues]

Love seeing Cold Ones get mentioned, it's a good podcast.

[@znndnsjsnjziiajajsndnsnsndjxj]

wicked video!! i didnt know about a lot of these, i'm excited to have found your channel!

[@hatednyc]

Lost Media is always an intriguing and exciting topic for me and this list is absolutely Stellar. Well done. 17:35 Well worth the subscription.

[@jwchampagne1]

"The Feast of Stephen" is the episode with the infamous fourth wall breaking at the end, with William Hartnell wishing all the viewers a Happy Christmas. It can't be canon for that reason alone.

[@desireepoirier9885]

I wish I could watch television ghost! Seems like a show I would watch.

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

It's my personal favourite case in this particular video

[@desireepoirier9885]

What do you think would be a good story idea for the television ghost.

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

@@desireepoirier9885 Being an egotistical prick, I wrote a story about a couple going to an old Inn and finding themselves under possession from an evil green horse. I'd love to see Television Ghost do it from either the perspective of the woman who survived or the guy who died towards the end

[@TheSaintsray]

I really enjoyed this. Looking forward to volume 2.

[@ScribblestoScreen]

18:39 had a heart attack for a second LOL 😂

[@Joeseph_Kerr]

Great work. Subscribing to see more!

[@RobotGooseStudios]

I'm actually skeptical on whether Assault Human is actually lost forever, I haven't seen any actual evidence to state the tapes were indeed wiped, other Tokusatsu shows from that time like Thunder Mask and Majin Bander that are thought to be destroyed and long lost aren't lost at all, but can't be released due to rights issues with all the tapes still existing (Thunder Mask) or the rights holders not seeing any real interest in releasing them (Bander), it could very well still exist in NTV's/Union Eiga's archives but has just been forgotten about. I also don't really believe that they "accidentally" wiped all 13 episodes but it could very well have happened.

[@ksay7649]

That was excellent, thanks

[@garym6315]

One thing that should give us all hope for missing episodes beig recovered, is the human factor. It's easy to look at documents and say this thing was binned, or this thing was never sold abroad, but there could easily be mistakes on documents, people lifting tapes destined for the bin, mis-filed prints.

[@colt45604]

Re: Smosh, on the 20th, it was announced Anthony came back to Smosh, and Ian and Anthony both own Smosh now, I know it has nothing to do with the lost media, but yea

[@SemiShweet]

We're lucky to even have a photograph of the Television Ghost.

[@rexsoloman6874]

Very interesting and well made vid! Nice to see smaller creators in my recommendations

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@Chelaxim]

All it takes to go from PG13 to R is use the F word non sexually more than 1 time or use it in a sexual manner at all. Anybody who has seen unrated comedy movies or unrated slasher movies knows that very little ever gets changed to earn a pg13 or R.

[@juliana.x0x0]

Anthony Padilla and Ian Hecox actually got together and BOUGHT BACK Smosh and announced it just about a week or so ago!

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

I know...

[@bluejayway19]

Banging vid boss

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

Leg

[@AdamTurnbull-xd3nf]

there was news recently that doctor who Episodes might have been found. lets hope it turns up.

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

Was just reading that article. Hopefully Phillip manages to get them recovered

[@martinfenton1275]

The crowd scenes in United! were all filmed at a single Stoke City match and doled out across the series. Family lore is that my Grandad, a Stoke City regular, could clearly be seen in one shot which kept being reused whenever there was a goal.

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

Is your grandfather still alive? Any stories from that era, no matter how small or forgotten, would be grand. Or if you'd be interested in sharing

[@Steve_P_B]

With the lost episodes of Doctor Who, it is believed that all of the missing episodes apparently existing in audio format which to date are being released with an animated video in place of the live action footage.

[@kevin2400]

Great channel.... no jumpscares

[@Evolutionator944]

Love this

[@adamjack9113]

Pretty sure that is Ian not Anthony on Cold Ones

[@cootiepickle]

Yep! He also kept saying Padilla wrong lol

[@nostairwayy4059]

Good stuff keep it up

[@kryspy5160]

how do you only have 1.5k subs. very underrated

[@Joeseph_Kerr]

IKR?

[@Awsomeisimo]

Damn, just asnthey rejoined

[@thatoneguy9582]

18:20 i’m sure you’ve figured this out by now and i’m sorry if you have but that is not anthony

[@PlutoPebble]

I'm fascinated with lost media. I have a Morcambe and Wise DVD with some of the lost tapes. I also never knew about United. I suppose that was the Victoria Park Stoke City ground. Up the Potters!

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

Yeah about that Smosh segment.....

[@fyoutube2294]

I literally saw all of these on quibi

[@Prottok]

which particular episode is it about at 6:06 ? Can someone tell title and what season?

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

That would be The Daleks' Master Plan, my friend

[@luandias1476]

They could remake the lost Doctor Who episodes in comic form. At least it's easier to make it this way than find real actors to refilm the episodes in live-action.

[@aurinrakkun8589]

Some of them are being or have been animated instead, which is even better.

[@davidprice5771]

Anthony and Ian have recently repurchased Smosh.

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

I... know...

[@ThatManConzilla]

Great vid! Also I'm surprised you brought up assault human as it's very obscure.

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

I love the obscure

[@ThatManConzilla]

@@AstileDohertyProductions same

[@r66fplaysgames]

14:22 SSTV stands for slow scan television.

[@downnnnnn]

I think you should get rid of the permanently in the title, I think it makes a more intriguing title, if that makes sense. good video

[@kirbycraft1302]

Hey this video came up in my algorithm for some reason, but catchy. I really enjoyed this. I'll sub. What got you into doing this???

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

Spare time in secondary school

[@jorgizoran4340]

What is the episode 12 with the bleak ending in doctor who?

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

Dalek's Master Plan. I had some copyright issues, so a small segment was cut out and may have messed up context

[@jorgizoran4340]

@@AstileDohertyProductions What happens in it?

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

@jorgizoran4340 you'll have to listen to the surviving audio and find out ;D

[@DogDayFromPoppyPlaytime180]

Since Smosh is back together will that make the R rated version of the Smosh movie more easy to find?

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

Probably not. As said on Cold Ones, all footage appears to have been destroyed

[@DogDayFromPoppyPlaytime180]

@@AstileDohertyProductions Oh okay that sucks

[@carlhartwell7978]

18:57 King _Flasher?..._ Army of _Flashers?..._ targeting children! Well that went south pretty fast! 🤯 At least there was no Grand Flasher or Flasher Core... Wait, Oh No!

[@HarryPalmerOrchestra]

King Flasher targets children .... uuuummmmm

[@pickle.8748]

The steve irwin one is kinda sad, by not releasing it they are going against his wishes. I dont blame them though, it's dark stuff. Juat sucks that his wishes were not met, as he wanted everything recorded to show nature as truthfully as possoble

[@superdavid002]

Other lost films, most Dumont productions

[@jackrusssell1313]

there is a lot of Australian lost media one that is sadly lost is world champion ship wrestling. this was an Australian owned promotion. televised at around 11.00am every Saturday and Sunday morning in the seventy's we would sit down and watch the wrestling there were important imports who came out Harley race Ric flair Andre the giant. as well as Aussies legends of the time Marrio Milano Larry odea Ron miller but it was canceled in the early eighties but they used the one tape to record and virtually everything was lost small fragments still survive as they say all we have are memories.

[@Knifin.]

The I Hate You Oil Spill Song by Alexlolmusic

[@darkwolfknight8293]

Pernamently Lost Media is like an abyss.

[@quazz79]

is Cats on this list?? I really want Cats to be on this list

[@FatherStack]

@11:46 some media is better off lost. When it come to real-life deaths, the footage is better destroyed.

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

No truer words

[@jayjlevans2000]

I've got 2 Doctor Who film prints. Part One of both of the movies: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6akl5WfmdasepY

[@13thcentury]

2nd of March... 19657 ... ... So... its still running

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

Yes

[@13thcentury]

@@AstileDohertyProductions But those lost Who episodes... damn

[@Ratelzwatel]

7:52 What does "spaghettified" mean in context of lost media? Or am I mishearing another word?

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

It's a process where film prints are intentionally messed up and thrown out so people can't recover them from fly tipping

[@diskdem0n]

please someone fucking find the r rated cut of smosh the movie. i dont care if its permanently lost, i want it found

[@MaybeAnnatar]

You posted this just SLIGHTLY ahead of Smosh reuniting. Also that was Ian in the interview not Anthony

[@Partypooper43]

00:58 it says from 1965 to 19657 wtf?

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

Oopsie daisy

[@DanteToska]

Just my two-cents as I can see you're a new creator and you've put a lot of work into this video: when I read a title along the lines of "lost media that will never be found and you will never see it" it makes me sad and not want to click on the video, because half the fun with lost media is hoping and dreaming that one day the media can be found! Like I get it, some stories really seem that way when you read that "all of the remaining copies were burned" and stuff, but it just makes for a more pleasant viewing experience if the audience has that hope that it can be found. Again, just my two cents, and above all you're the creator so please title your videos and write them however you please! Maybe there are people in this community who are intrigued by how they'll never be able to see or play a piece of media ever again?

[@Joeseph_Kerr]

That’s me. I want to know what makes something truly lost. Where’s the line that something goes from...Lost, to LOST....Fascinating stuff...

[@love-giftofafairytale3849]

I respectfully disagree. Knowing something that can never be seen makes me want to preserve what I can: pictures, articles, interviews, etc. Any scrap of information! (A couple of times I found said lost thing while doing so but that's extremely rare). I like making sure these traces don't disappear. I like to think that the creators of said lost media would appreciate it.

[@starspangledhiker]

There was a show crashbox on HBO that had a similar bit to the 30s show; wonder if any of the writers somehow saw ot. Or if they just heard of it and were inspired.

[@lewisdoherty7621]

Some movies shoot alternative endings and then test them on audiences to see how they work. I assume these are usually destroyed, so there can be no alternatives to "the film's vision." These would be fun to have.

[@johnakni]

I saw the stage play version of An Inspector Calls in London starring Tom Baker in 1987.

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

He was brilliant apparently

[@disneyboy3030]

I actually saw something interesting on a Wiki.

[@leflervm87]

I hope the Clone High pilot doesn't become permanent lost media...

[@soapdood2085]

I love how aggressive the title is lmao. Tell me about lost media I can’t have daddy 🤣

[@CellHeart]

Imagine an advanced alien species travels space finding formerly inhabited planets and does this with ruined architecture, remnants of extinct civilizations that are gone forever. One day, our planet will be featured.

[@DokkaChapman]

lol, That Smosh input aged like milk. XD Also they haven't been corporate since 2018 when Rhett & Link bought the company.

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

Read the description

[@ScribblestoScreen]

8:01 sad, that we will never hear that Blackpool line 😢

[@blackphoenix77]

I want to see the others, but I have no interest in the Steve Irwin one

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

No one wants to see that happen to anybody

[@SpoonmanGamesnStuff]

smosh is actually back together again, yk.

[@NelsonStJames]

It’s a real shame that film and television as an early art form wasn’t appreciated, and little to no thought was given to it’s preservation.

[@mikuisdiva39]

oops.. we just lost the original tape! I think yall gotta believe us anyway ykwim lol

[@radicaledwards3449]

What did they do with , 'The Real McKoy'? BBC were strange to black people in them days

[@robtymec2642]

Even though I'm a hardcore Doctor Who fan, if we never see Feast of Steven again - I don't think I'll weep too hard Especially since it gets a bit racist!

[@yellowpete79]

Your attitude is worrying. If you found the sole surviving film can, you would destroy it because this 50+ yr old episode doesn't meet your contemporary ideals.

[@robtymec2642]

@@yellowpete79 At no point in my statement did I claim I would destroy rare film cans. I simply said I wouldn't be too upset if the episode was never found. Your attitude worries me more. You seem to enjoy twisting the context of other peoples' words.

[@yellowpete79]

@@robtymec2642 Would you destroy it though? Thats the impression you give.

[@robtymec2642]

@@yellowpete79 you give me the impression that you take a lot of drugs and then read comments in KZbin videos.

[@BopperBippity]

@@yellowpete79 how does someone being mostly apathetic to whether or not they finds something immediately translate to them wanting to destroy it to you?

[@meesalikeu]

note this is all nigel stuff nobody else cares about but its still an interesting topic

[@basicallywellfed3453]

"lost" moon landing tapes hahahahaha

[@charlesstephenarnest8513]

Epstein list? Election results?

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

Lol

[@reverenddick8562]

There's a song I heard on the radio back in like, 2005. Three months I heard the song. It was an alternative or even hard rock genre from a band called 'From The Ashes' or something. But the band had to change their name as another band already existed with said name. I don't remember the new band name or song title.

[@andrewcurtis4568]

My favourite "lost" tv is a supernatural series called Dead of Night (1972) only three episodes have survived, four episodes have been lost forever. You can read more here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_of_Night_(TV_series)

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

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