Permits and the Owner Builder Course. Owner Builder Series. Episode 2!

[@kylemonteiro4384]

Thanks Shane, do you think you could do a more detailed video on this process from design to construction certificate with all the lessons you've now learnt? just starting this process myself.

[@GG-od2tr]

phenomenal

[@diyforknuckleheads]

👍👍

[@TheExcellentLaborer]

Thanks for sharing! This video is perfect for owner builders. I’ve been doing owner Building for 10 years it is definitely the way to go!

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Sure is Josh 👍😁🇦🇺

[@ddaurer]

I am sure glad I do not live in Australia. I just rebuilt a cabin on the Tennessee River and needed no permits. Too much to go thru. Good luck. Great video.

[@diyforknuckleheads]

denis daurer Thanks Denis. I think the reason is is that so many owner builders get into trouble, don't finish their projects and finish up going bust. It's a pain top go through it but hopefully there's a light at the end of the tunnel. Cheers mate.PS. Your cabin sounds great.

[@sarcasmo57]

How can a door be a jar?

[@gchel4265]

Thanks Knacks! Great video.

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Cheers mate 👍😁🇦🇺

[@mitchellandrachelm5700]

thinking about selling my home here in caloundra and being an owner builder...at 45 i have all the time in the world...(give me a challenge)...i need one...thumbs up knackers...mitchell

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Go for it Mtchell! Take your time and plan. You staying in Caloundra? 👍😁🇦🇺

[@mitchellandrachelm5700]

@@diyforknuckleheads i worked as an electrician for 20 years and i was a property speculator when was very young...sold both the houses down in melbourne a few months ago...did well...i renovated the old house here on my own...oh yeah love caloundra...moved here in 2013...me and my wife will be staying...beautiful place...i remember you told me a few years ago via reply you lived around here years ago

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Good work on the Melbourne sales mate...worked and lived there (Elsternwick, Elwood, Thornbury) for over ten years and went back for Christmas this year. Really like Melbourne but moved up here to the Mid North Coast for a sea change in 2011....would never go back which is why l reckon you guys love Caloundra....beautiful spot👍 Like l mentioned to you earlier, l lived in Mooloolaba for three years back in the 90's....go back every now and then for a holiday. Good luck with the new venture...l'm sure it'll be awesome! Have a good one 👍😁🇦🇺

[@nathanroberts8976]

Can you get an owner builders permit, to let you build a duplex in qld?

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Couldn't tell you Nathan....Department of Fair Trading would be your first point of call. Good luck 👍😁🇦🇺

[@julianchang9234]

Thanks for this great video Shane. I'm doctor by trade and am interested in doing something more hands on in life with my soft supple hands. Your channel has helped me a lot!

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Thanks Juian 👍 Go for it mate....it is very satisfying to see what you can build with your hands. Your hands will callous up in no time at all 😂 Have a great day mate 👍😁🇦🇺

[@BigReggie]

When I win the powerball lottery you can reno my house in Australia (which I have yet to buy, on the coast of course!) and then fill it with pallet projects. Deal? It's out there so it's written in stone now lol, cheers my friend!

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Big Reggie G'day Big Reggie….consider it done! I'm Channeling the power ball numbers as l speak :-) Cheers mate

[@getzeye86]

Hey Shane, have just started our own owner builder project. Being a seasoned carpenter myself it has been quite a challenge with a lot of organising and planning. Love the videos mate and agree with the feeling of “white noise” haha

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Good luck with it Sam....it's a truckload of work but well worth it in the end. Good luck mate 👍😁🇦🇺

[@Semaj.18272]

What I have a private certifier ? I already put my builders name on the paper work for the council , private certifier mentioned if I do my owner builder course he will amend it for me and add my name

[@windyboy78]

We dont have to go to this level in NewZealand, except getting council/engineering sign off for certain work, especially structural. I would guess though that we arnt far behind following Aussie down the path of courses and special insurances.

[@diyforknuckleheads]

windyboy78 Yeah it's only a matter of time Windyboy. It's actually not a bad process to go through. It opens up your eyes a bit. Cheers

[@886014]

Shane I haven't yet done any projects that have triggered the OB threshold, but they're getting closer each time. There's a possibility I'll OB an extension in a year or so, and will need to complete the course before then. Until that time, if it's not technically required, do you feel there is any value in completing the course for somebody at competent DIY level, where the projects generally don't involve any external trades? Think decking/pergolas/tiling/etc etc type scale. I'm not sure how much of this is a "tick-a-box" exercise, and how much could be of real practical value.

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Pete, where l found the course valuable was on the legality side of things as well as insurance requirements. The course really doesn't go into the act of 'how to build a house' It's more about coordinating the job effectively so that you don't get into trouble and you don't go broke. Cheers

[@886014]

Thanks Shane, much appreciate that. At this stage I've decided to hold off on the course and think it's better to concentrate on the skills required that would otherwise be done by the various trades. Once I start bringing in others more regularly and/or it becomes a legal requirement to go down the OB course I'll jump through the hoops. Love your work mate, great stuff!

[@BrainFizz]

Although a completely different set of rules and regs required than for a job here in the UK, one thing is exactly the same - the council sponsored red tape! :-) Nicely done getting all the boxes ticked, can't wait to see what's going on next! :-)

[@diyforknuckleheads]

***** Unfortunately you can't avoid the red tape Richard. You just have to suck it up! Hope you can stick around for Episode 3. Cheers mate :-)

[@BrainFizz]

I'll be sticking around for the whole series mate!

[@lucythorsby7012]

👍

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Thanks for watching Lucy 👍😁🇦🇺

[@roymay9758]

Dang I'm glad it's not that tough here. 50 dollar permit and your ready to go here. The more the reno costs the more the permit is? WOW! I feel your pain. Tax and spend government is so efficient. LOL!

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Roy May $50 !!!!! Roy l'm moving to where you live :-) Cheers

[@roymay9758]

That's great Shane....come on up. You are welcome here for sure! LOL!

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Roy May Cheers mate :-)

[@dmottern1952]

Very enjoyable video! Things here in the States are a little more liberal. But that can be a problem on any number of different levls..

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Doug Mottern Thanks Doug. I don't really see much of a problem with the courses etc. They do prepare you for whats to happen down the track. Cheers mate :-)

[@owlytv]

Hi I was just wondering who you ended up using for your Insurance?

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Hi CC..we used a company called AllRisk. Website allrisk.com.au Seemed pretty good and didn’t have any hassles. Good luck 👍

[@owlytv]

@@diyforknuckleheads thanks very much the series has helped heaps I really appreciate it :)

[@diyforknuckleheads]

cloudyclouds No worries👍

[@stephenharding6493]

Queensland whitecard.... love it... I have the same one! Best of luck Shane!

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Stephen Harding Yes mate…the god old Queensland White. That was what was on offer with the Owner Builder Course that l did. It's recognised Australia wide so that ticked all the boxes for me. Cheers mate.

[@TheApothecaryAus]

TAFE (At least in SA) has been dumbed down to "Technical/Training and Further Education" - no longer regarded as "tertiary". To overseas viewers, TAFE is Australia's Community College. Cheers again Knackers, looking forward to future updates. Edit: What counts as a "renovation", as in, what work undertaken requires all of this Owner/Builder process - I'm going to guess that varies state by state or council by council? Or is it an Australian standard?

[@diyforknuckleheads]

TheApothecaryAus Any job over 10 grand (in Australia) takes you into the class of an Owner Builder. It's a real shame that they closed down a lot of the TAFE Instituions. I think there's a real need for them. Cheers mate.

[@tonymontana897]

I just completed the Owner Builder's Course with Absolute Education and was let down at the end when it stated that the last module can't be done online like we were led to believe the course was supposed to be in its entirety. There is an audio/visual component that you must complete with a series of ridiculous tasks. You have to either attend their office in person, do a facetime video with a trainer or record yourself and send it to them. ARRGGHH !! This is the last bit I have to do to get my certificate. I did the whole module set in one sitting and just ploughed through, despite 90% of the course having nothing to do with my project, which is a shed build. Go figure.. Took around 4 hrs. I'm so sick of Bureaucracy and red tape !

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Yeah when l did it Tony, we didn't have to do that..

[@tonymontana897]

@@diyforknuckleheads You're lucky mate. It is totally retarded and a colossal waste of time.

[@daveellingsen4854]

Hey Shane, Good video. It was no surprise to see all of the bureaucratic hoops you have had to jump through. I can understand the reasoning behind all of the steps necessary BUT! I think the exorbitant fee abuse is a bit of thievery, much like here in the US, A real revenue generator. Sounds like you have your ducks in row and ready to go. Don’t forget your hardhat! Cheers!

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Dave Ellingsen Hi Dave, like you, l can see the reasoning behind the courses. Back in the past Owner Builders were notorious for not finishing jobs and going bankrupt so a little preparation is always a good idea. Hard hats are on the ready. Cheers mate :-)

[@manfraser4786]

awww, no "great tips knckkeerrrrrsza?!" you let me down shane...you let me down...hahaahaha really great tip mate, this will help alot of us...easy quick guide! well done

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Man Fraser Thanks mate. I hope you can stick around for the rest of the series. Cheers mate PS: I'll work on remembering my Call Sign :-)

[@billybrackman5143]

can I ask a question? did you make up a spreadsheet for budgeting your work? or use a template? if you wouldn't mind sharing?

[@diyforknuckleheads]

G'day Billy. Having done it a number of times before l had a fairly good idea of what my project was going to cost. If this is your first attempt, l have a link here that might set you in the right direction. Good luck 👍 www.ownerbuild.com.au/cost-estimating

[@mariusfinnstun]

Holy flying beuracrazy, Batman!

[@diyforknuckleheads]

***** :-)

[@KaniFuker-Sir]

Make sure you jump through all those hoops mate, great 2nd part. Does your planning permission go into your local Newspaper or a sign put on the nearest lamp post for locals to read?. Here they do that before works are carried out incase any Joe-Public wants to oppose such works.

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Kani Fuker The Council here sends letters to all the parties that are close to the project stating what is proposed. If they have any concerns then they have the opportunity to object. Thankfully we got the all clear :-) Cheers mate

[@KaniFuker-Sir]

shaneconlan1 That's great mate, looking forward to Uncle KnackersTowers being built. Can't wait, good luck.

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Kani Fuker Thanks mate :-)

[@JohnGranter]

Another great video Uncle Knackers. Never thought there as so many steps when you want to go an renovate your own home. But a lot of useful information for sure. At leas there now you are getting through all the steps, getting closer and closer to the remodeling phase. Can't wait for the next video to see the walk through of your home. Just from the videos you have submitted so far, have given me a lot of ideas. Much appreciated. :D

[@diyforknuckleheads]

John Granter Thanks John. Yeah we're edging closer and closer to swinging that sledge hammer :-) Cheers mate

[@Semaj.18272]

Hey mate . I’m just about to apply for my owner builder permit after completing and passing the owner builder course that u recommend ! They were excellent lol :) Do o still need to get home and warranty insurances ? I googled it it says it’s no longer required ? I know this video a few years old lol

[@diyforknuckleheads]

G'day Saif....yeah sorry mate but l'm not sure....your best bet would be to call the Department of Fair Trading in your state....good luck 👍😁🇦🇺

[@HITASCL]

Nice vid. mate. It´s like in austria. You spend a lot of money, even before to lay one brick of the construction. Seeing forward to part three thanks

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Frank Haider I think it's pretty common Frank. Thanks for watching and stick around for Episode 3. Cheers :-)

[@filmgeek9136]

Great vid,but I was hoping for an overview of the cost of all the paperwork and certificates.

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Filmgeek913 Thanks Filmgeek. Just so you know, the Owner Builder Course and White Card (you do them in combination) was $244.00. The Owner Builder Permit was $160.00 and Council fees vary between different Councils. This also changes depending on the cost of the job and the type of the work proposed. Hope that helps. Cheers

[@deanno7067]

Great video Knackers good to see the process that is involved and the relevant documentation needed.

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Dean no Thanks Dean. Glad you could watch it and thanks for the feedback. Cheers mate

[@myday805]

Every business interest of the building industry is represented at state government level. The owner builder is not represented. The costs and regulations for an owner builder is all about discouraging owner builders.

[@mikesmith2102]

what is this council you keep talking about? Here in Covington, Washington , USA we have a Community Development Department that is local to the city. They take care of all the permits and other detail for building inside the city limits. We have city, county, state and federal levels of Government. Is the council local to your city?

[@diyforknuckleheads]

mike smith That's right Mike. Our City Council deals with all the goings on in our local area.

[@kaviteshsharma]

mike smith In Australia its Federal, State and Councils that form our governments, Councils look after a region usual set by the population of the community and regulates all building constructions.

[@martysgarden]

Wish I could get a project like that underway, but I need more cash! hahahaha Love the Show! Marty Ware from Marty's Garden in Australia

[@diyforknuckleheads]

martysgarden Thanks mate. Join the club Marty. We all need more cash lol. Hopefully you can stick around for the rest of the series. Cheers mate

[@Sebastopolmark]

Well, sounds like Phase 1 = check! We look forward to the ground breaking day. Hope all goes well, or as well as can be expected. G'day

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Sebastopolmark Appreciate that mate and thanks for the well wishes. Cheers :-)

[@allea89]

Thanks for the doing this series Shane, its very interesting and gives us a little bit of a heads up of what's involved in being an owner builder.

[@diyforknuckleheads]

allea89 My pleasure Allea. I hope you can stick around for Episode 3 coming up shortly. Cheers :-)

[@DianaLuckysova]

Is there a site for American home owner builders?

[@mrvicco112]

Love the videos mate about to embark on this same mission in Victoria. Watching my fair share of ads too $$

[@diyforknuckleheads]

Thanks Tim...glad you like the vids mate and all the best with the build. 👍

[@Gealaiche]

gee Shane i think there's something wrong with the video, i just kept hearing white noise ;)

[@diyforknuckleheads]

gerrard warburton LOL…good stuff Gerrard. :-)

[@PJE-px1er]

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[@hohodzking2452]

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[@PJE-px1er]

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[@diyforknuckleheads]

PJE2004 Hi PJE. You can PM me if you like. Cheers

[@PJE-px1er]

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[@PJE-px1er]

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[@diyforknuckleheads]

PJE2004 I'd rather not if that's ok. Just a bit of a privacy thing. Cheers

[@boratborat8045]

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[@diyforknuckleheads]

Hahahhaha.....l've actually got a Rodney Rude signed Tee Shirt from the 80's 😂

[@boratborat8045]

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[@diyforknuckleheads]

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