Showcase of my Perry’s Austrians and a comparison with Victrix. But which is better.?
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@OW...5 жыл бұрын
Good point about the sizing. Element to element side by side the shorter perries are very noticeable, but when you pushed the 2 units back the size didn't really stand out..
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
The Old Wargamer Yeah the look great on the battlefield together just not in the same unit. I’ll definitely be getting more of each and maybe just keep them in their own brigades. I’ll maybe mix some of the heads around between the 2 to add a bit of variety
@OnPointHQ5 жыл бұрын
Two fantastic looking units there Leon, excellent stuff! That sheer amount of white would give me chest pains if I had to paint it but you've done a cracking job on them :)
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
On Point HQ Thanks mate. Yeah painting all that white is a real labour of love. I think it’ll be worth it in the end.
@JohnR12982 жыл бұрын
Nice job painting these up and seeing the victrix/Perry comparison was REALLY useful. Austrian Grenadier did have flags in the Napoleon period, but not during 7 Years War. Can't remember when this changed but certainly by the Revolutionary era.
@leont66wargaming312 жыл бұрын
Thanks John and thanks for the info on the flags
@joramamodellbau39875 жыл бұрын
Greatly worked and painted figures, one can not say otherwise. Greetings, Joachim
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
JORAMA MODELLBAU Thanks buddy 😊
@sagamer35943 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts on the differences. Great paint job!
@leont66wargaming313 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy
@fraso73313 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the interesting comparison! By the way, the 'ei' in 'Leibfahne' is spoken like the 'i' in 'ride'. 'Leib' means 'body' and sometimes it was used in a way similar to the modern 'personal'. So a 'Leib-Regiment' was the personal regiment of a monarch, a 'Leib-Kompanie' the personal company of the regiments commander and the 'Leibfahne' the flag of the 'Leib-Kompanie'.
@leont66wargaming313 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy.
@stephensmith12565 жыл бұрын
Great looking units mate, great detail I.like the sharp transition of the white. Keep them coming.
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
Stephen Smith Cheers mate. It was seeing you do yours that inspired me to start painting mine again.
@stevenhombrados15303 жыл бұрын
Super nice work mate! Both are amazing to look at!
@leont66wargaming313 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 😊
@maryhinge63345 жыл бұрын
They look great Leon. And thanks for explaining the difference between the two flags by the way. I’d always wondered about that.
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
Mary Hinge Thanks Jim. It’s debated wether or not the Landwehr had the same flags or made their own. Nobody makes any other flags so mine will get the yellow ones I think.
@bobbym.1367 Жыл бұрын
Well, the way i look at it is humans come in all sizes. I can see perry and vitrix mixed in my mind in the same unit for variety. Love em. Will probably do these guys after my french and british. Nice job on these guys as usual.
@leont66wargaming31 Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy. Now I’m a lot further along with this project, I’ve got a few battalions with a mix of the minis. They go together really well.
@BrushQuill5 жыл бұрын
Looking really nice. Loving the pink facings
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
Brush &Quill Thanks Cal 😊.
@bjkernowpaintingandmodelli91195 жыл бұрын
Really nice mate, what warm white did you use? Looking forward to seeing the finished units with the flags flying.
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
Bj kernow Thanks mate. I started of with a bleached bone and then 50/50 with off white then final highlight of off white
@philRminiatures5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant paint job; most impressive details!
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
Phil R Thanks buddy 🙂
@kimwidol11 ай бұрын
Personally, I like your Victrix figs a smidge better, especially the facial hair. However, if I had both, I’d mix and intersperse them together. People aren’t the same size and height. Your painting skills far exceed my own! Also, I would like the chaotic look of a variety of poses together which look good while in line engaged in combat. Battlegrounds are not parade grounds. I’ve never bought any 28mm figs but Perry’s look like they can be assembled in a good variety of poses from what I’ve seen elsewhere. Never seen Victrix sprues. Anyway, that’s my 2 nickel’s-worth! Again, very nice job! They look sharp!
@leont66wargaming3111 ай бұрын
Thanks Buddy. The Victrix kit gives you a few options for different poses for the minis. The Perry’s are all in marching pose. I have a couple of battalions where I’ve mixed them up and they do work well together. One day I might actually get round to finishing this army lol.
@tabletopgeneralsde3105 жыл бұрын
Amazing work, i really like your painting mate. Imo there is no winner, but it is good to see the differnce in the size, because i also really want to do some Napoleonics annd Black Powder MInis
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
Tabletop Generals thanks buddy. Yeah they’re both really nice. Wouldn’t look to good on the same bases but kept separate they look great
@tabletopgeneralsde3105 жыл бұрын
@@leont66wargaming31 maybe i will try to mix them, because in the museum in Deutsch-Wagram, it is near Wien, they where quite different in size.
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
+Tabletop Generals Yes that’s true. People come in all shapes and sizes. I think it’s just us wargamers that want everything to look perfect lol. Mixing them up will probably look pretty good to be honest
@granapriego5 жыл бұрын
I snip corners off Victrix bases when you get a base issue. They look really good Leon. I always use metal command if I can but do utilise some plastic command.
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
granapriego Yes I do that with the Victrix. The plastic bases can be a bit big. I’d use more metal commands as well if I could. Just can’t afford them at the minute lol. Will definitely think about getting some though to add variety
@granapriego5 жыл бұрын
Leon T66 yes variety is the main reason but also 6 metal command can free up more figures. Because of the metals i can squeeze 4 battalions out of the Perry and Victrix French box. It is grenadiers and volts that are the problems. Yes I know all about budget problems I have saved up since January for my recent splurges. Buying wrong things does not help either although I have been able to use them.
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
+granapriego I’ll look at the Perry’s metal commands. Should have a bit extra spare next month. I’d like a bit of variety in the command stands. Yes I keep putting of my French infantry lol. Yeah buying the wrong stuff is annoying. I keep falling into that trap.
@Arlec904 жыл бұрын
Great review and comparison. Keep up the excellent work.
@leont66wargaming314 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 🙂
@thomasandrew48814 жыл бұрын
Hi Leon. Love your Vids. How would you rate Warlord Games figs with the Victrix and Perry's - scale size, pose, casting detail, facial detail?
@leont66wargaming314 жыл бұрын
I’ve found they’re all pretty much the same scale so you can mix them with each other and get lots of variety. I’m not over keen on the British Victrix line infantry but all the rest of the Victrix are pretty good. I find the Perry faces a bit flat and can be a challenge to paint. The Victrix and warlord ones have more pronounced features which I like. Some people say they look a bit caricature ish but I like them. I don’t have a big preference except to say, I like all my guys in marching pose so I tend to go for warlord most of the time.
@WoofyMcDoodle3 жыл бұрын
I started painting napoleonic miniatures for a diorama and bought the Perrys. Judging by the comparision you show there is not much difference between those and the Victrix. I assume I could use both of them for a diorama right? Whats your opinion on it?
@leont66wargaming313 жыл бұрын
You can definitely use both. They match up really well together. I’m currently painting up a brigade of Victrix and have just finished a brigade of Perry’s
@gracefaithCHRISTscriptureGOD3 жыл бұрын
Great update,thanks for posting
@leont66wargaming313 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy
@7thson7265 жыл бұрын
Really nice job mate
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
7th Son cheers 🍻 mate
@basicminiaturepainting5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant work as always mate
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
basic miniature painting cheers 🍻 Justin 🙂
@GreenEagle344 жыл бұрын
Haha after watching your videos.. took the deep dive and got some Austrians lol. The perry ones are awesome there is something about painting Napoleonics that is so much fun.
@leont66wargaming314 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Anthony. Welcome to the slippery slope lol. I like both the Victrix and the Perry’s. You can’t go wrong with either. I’ll certainly be getting some more when the cavalry come out.
@GreenEagle344 жыл бұрын
Pre orders just went up and they release in June cannot wait!
@leont66wargaming314 жыл бұрын
Haha yes saw that. I’ll be putting the order in this week
@gkspain14 жыл бұрын
Very nice Leon, like the contrast between perry's and victrix.
@leont66wargaming314 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. They’re both great minis. Eventually I’d like a couple of battalions of each.
@Forge_n_Brush5 жыл бұрын
I like them as well. Just for the variety, I would deff. Collect both brands. I am planning ondoing some 1813 Prussian LW for my Forge & Brush - I don't do Napoleonics in 28 for my own collection. Great work, Leon. ~Fritz
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
A Dash of Élan - GM's Alcove Yeah I can’t pick a winner out of the 2 brands. I’m wanting to do AWI in 15mm as next years big project. Thinking Blue Moon figures..??
@Forge_n_Brush5 жыл бұрын
Blue Moon are excellent figures. They are more toward the 18mm scale, so you get lots of detail. They are my first choice whenever I want to do anything in 15/18mm. ~Fritz
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
A Dash of Élan - GM's Alcove ah great stuff. I was hoping they’d be more 18mm tbh.
@emmetminiatureswargames24245 жыл бұрын
These look fantastic. I’ve got both Perry and Victrix, they’re both excellent and with Victrix they have that great Grenadier box set with the bearskins. I feel the same about Grenadiers and flags - in the AWI The Grenadiers were all converged from other regiments so they didn’t have the flags with them. I did a unit, looks a bit odd without.
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
Lee Hughes Thanks mate. I’ll be putting a flag on my Grenadiers. As you say I think it’ll look odd without one. Think I’d paint up a command stand for yours if it was me. Although the historical Nazi’s won’t like it 😂😂😂 No doubt I’ll get some negative feedback when I post pics of mine up on Facepalm when they’re finished.
@emmetminiatureswargames24245 жыл бұрын
I have actually seen command packs for Grenadiers so obviously some manufacturers can see the need for them. Old Glory do a pack of Grenadiers with command, same with Light Infantry as they were used the same way in the AWI. I usually do things in whatever way I like the look of, knowing whether or not it’s historically correct is good enough.
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
+Lee Hughes Yep that’s kind of my thoughts on it as well. I do try for historical accuracy but if it’s not quite perfect it doesn’t bother me to much and Flags make units look very much nicer. Still looking at Blue Moon AWI. I’ve so nearly hit the buy button so many times now lol.
@emmetminiatureswargames24245 жыл бұрын
BM are great. I’m avoiding painting the few I’ve got at the moment because I’ll only want to buy more. Will have to wait until there’s some money coming in. Occupying myself with French Foreign Legion and some Reaper fantasy figures.
@GreenEagle344 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of doing some Austrians for black powder.. I was thinking of painting them like an off light cream it's a GW paint can't remember which.. I can't wait for the plastic austrian cavalry from perry
@leont66wargaming314 жыл бұрын
I use the Ushabti bone colour then highlight with off white. Yeah me too. Probably be a while now though.
@gunner6785 жыл бұрын
Excellent, I do like Perry's figures. Victrix look nice, I have never bought them so I might give them a go. I am still on ACW. I need decent flags.
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
Matthew Dobbs Thanks mate. Yeah they’re both really nice figures. Try “Flags of War”. I get all my flags from him. Much cheaper than GMB and just as good
@johnwayneeverett62634 жыл бұрын
I AM THAT WAY WITH SHADES AND CONTRAST ....I LIKE THEM ALL .....CAME A LONG WAYS FROM THE 50S 60AS 70S EVEN UP TO A COUPLE OF YEARS FINALLY GETTING SOME LANCERS THIS YEAR ......
@leont66wargaming314 жыл бұрын
Are you getting the Victrix Lancers.? They do look very nice
@johnwayneeverett62634 жыл бұрын
@@leont66wargaming31 YES SIR MANY BOXES .....
@Ernzt84 жыл бұрын
Apart from the coats and hats these mini's can mix well I think, even on the same base.
@leont66wargaming314 жыл бұрын
Yeah. There’s a few things but they should mix ok. The Victrix are a bit taller but not much
@dupeesfashionconsultant42043 жыл бұрын
I can never get that much contrast with whites, those look incredible
@leont66wargaming313 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex
@napoleonicspainminiatures49624 жыл бұрын
VERY LOOKING MINIATURES!
@leont66wargaming314 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy
@raymowery51224 жыл бұрын
I believe the term is Leib fahne - as in "do not tell a lie." "ei" in German sounds as the "ie" in lie. Which infantry coat is correct? The turnbacks are noticeably different.
@leont66wargaming314 жыл бұрын
The yellow turn backs are the 43rd battalion The pink or pale rose are the 53rd battalion.
@raymowery51224 жыл бұрын
@@leont66wargaming31 I am referring to the shape of the turnbacks. The Victrix figures seem to have a slightly longer front to the jacket, and the turnbacks start at the lowest button. The Perrys look a bit more like British uniform style turnbacks. Might the Victrix be for an aera like 1805-07, and the Perrys for 1809 onward?
@leont66wargaming314 жыл бұрын
Ah i get you. Yes the Victrix minis are supposed to be used for both early and late uniforms but they use the same body and just change out the hats. I guess they figured it’s such a small detail nobody would notice. I didn’t spot it either until you pointed it out.
@raymowery51224 жыл бұрын
@@leont66wargaming31 Thanks, Leon. By the way, I once "converted" metal Austrian infantry as shown for the Perrys to the 28th Foot, North Glostershire Regiment. with stovepipe shako and carrying French backpacks captured in Egypt, 1800. They won the "back number" for that action, as one rank took on attacking French infantry, the other about faced and fought French cavalry - and drove both away. The Victrix coats look like British, late 1790's, into Egypt.
@IDICBeer5 жыл бұрын
They all look good to me :D
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
IDICBeer 40k cheers mate 🙂
@62seano5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Leon, i really like those
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
Seano's world of figures Thanks mate. I’m really pleased with how they came out.
@vividius79512 жыл бұрын
I'm not up too much on napoleonic stuff but are they supposed to be pink? looks like a pride march
@leont66wargaming312 жыл бұрын
Lol. I can’t remember if the top of my head which Regiment they are but they had pink facings. Decided to paint them as pink is not a colour that comes up much, so thought they’d be a bit different lol
@vividius79512 жыл бұрын
@@leont66wargaming31 I never really liked all that warhammer stuff but painting them how you wanted was one of the upsides
@aaronlowe605 жыл бұрын
Really like them mate, loving the Austrians 👍
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
EwanAndAaron Lowe cheers 🍻 mate 😊
@OW...5 жыл бұрын
you leaving the drum hoop as is ??
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
The Old Wargamer Yes. Should it be different.?
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
+Leon T66 So yes the Drum rim should be yellow and black stripes or triangles with yellow black white I think. I’ll certainly do the next ones with the stripes but I’ll just leave this one now. Not going to attempt the triangles lol. I did try to do the flag poles with the barbershop 💈 poles in the past but couldn’t get them looking good enough. So I just go with white now
@historypunkwargames47603 жыл бұрын
Great painting on both but I think I prefer victrix just becouse its a bit easier to paint the more chunky style figures
@leont66wargaming313 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Yup it’s very close. I still can’t decide lol.
@vividius79512 жыл бұрын
I like the perry's better but I use both
@leont66wargaming312 жыл бұрын
I’m still on the fence
@kitswithkaren50035 жыл бұрын
Very nice paibt job.
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
Otto Titsling Thanks buddy 😊
@CheckYourLeaderTV3 жыл бұрын
The Victrix are using the wrong method of carrying their muskets.
@leont66wargaming313 жыл бұрын
Yes I have seen this. A bit too late when I found out lol. That being said I know from my own experience of carrying a rifle around, you’d find the most comfortable method of carrying it on long marches and only use the correct method when on parade, so I can live with it. I have a mixed Perry and Victrix battalion I’ve nearly finished so I’ll bring this up when I do the video for that.... if I remember lol
@johnwayneeverett62635 жыл бұрын
I JUST DID THESE GUYS ALSO GREAT JOB BUDDY
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
John Wayne Everett Thanks buddy. They’re lovely minis aren’t they
@miniatureempire3 жыл бұрын
Nice job leon
@leont66wargaming313 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy
@johnwayneeverett62635 жыл бұрын
cant pick a winner lol same here..
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
John Wayne Everett They’re both great aren’t they. I’ll just continue to use both. Have a Brigade if each I think.
@OW...5 жыл бұрын
Austrian army well on the way now...
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
The Old Wargamer Only about 120 figures to paint lol. But yes it’s taking shape now
@OW...5 жыл бұрын
@@leont66wargaming31 , good point, but look at me i have to do the french and the russians :(.. but then i'm retired so its easier for me.. :)
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
The Old Wargamer Lol. I feel your pain. I’ve got some Russians to paint too but they’re way down on the list.
@timothyhall39545 жыл бұрын
If budget is a problem for flags, check these out. All free downloads. www.warflag.com/flags/select.shtml
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim. I’ll take a look
@timothyhall39545 жыл бұрын
@@leont66wargaming31 Don't think you'll be disappointed. If you copy and paste them you can play around with sizes. They come out very well from a good printer. And of course they are free.
@leont66wargaming315 жыл бұрын
Timothy Hall Will I need any special paper or just normal stuff.?
@timothyhall39545 жыл бұрын
@@leont66wargaming31 I just use bog standard printer paper, never had any problems. PVA glue on to a flag pole and your'e good to go. I don't varnish mine, but that's personal preference. I do just paint up the edges to conceal the white paper. They do have a good range of flags as well, especially for Napoleonics. .
@jaads79103 жыл бұрын
Best victrix I had was early French infantry, they had lots of variation in poses , grt for dioramas, but the Austrians very boring, , ps grt paint jobs,
@leont66wargaming313 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy. Yeah I’ve painted some of the early French. Got a video of them somewhere lol. Great minis, lots of character in the faces
@johnwayneeverett62634 жыл бұрын
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@leont66wargaming314 жыл бұрын
Merry Xmas John I’ll think about the PayPal thing in the new year if I’m out of work Have you got my email address.?