Persian ney lesson 1

I show how to get started playing the Persian ney. For more info on this instrument see my website persianney.com

[@arian6586]

I am Persian And really admire what u are doing to teach this instrument :)

[@painterpainting7056]

your the only one teaching this instrument... its sad that you dont make videos!

[@ilbay22]

Башкирски Курай.Самве вируозы это башкры.

[@fabiankempe7851]

Ah man... FINALLY! it took me about 3-4 years but now i can play both turkish and persian ney, remember seeing your video few years back and thought i would never would be able to play this flute.

[@iamhassa91]

Fabian Kempe oh good news to me, need 2-3 years more then i can play lol... i almost given up to try -_-

[@johnfender9843]

IAM Hassa , here I made a video on the KIZNEY ,

[@serseriherif9530]

Fabian, contacteer mee als je tips wil voor turkse ney (+ om mij te helpen met iraanse ney) grts

[@persianney]

Thanks, but before you can call me "ostad" I need to learn Farsi and be able to sing the radif. I'm just an amateur player of the ney. The ney ostads are Kassai, Ghayouri, Nahid, Omoumi, Mussavi, Andalibi, Kiani-nejad, Afsharnia. There are for sure more but I don't know them as they don't have published CD's. I am not at that level, and probably never will be!

[@behnamhashemi2657]

I can Tech "radif" and farsi on easy way man...Gd luck

[@hozan4813]

hello from Iran you are very good

[@lukotube]

Great video! After months of trying (the wrong way, apparently) I finally managed to produce a tone, because of this video. It's weak and unstable, but it's there! I am ridiculously happy with this! ;) This is really good fun! In a year from now, I will finally know if I 'built' my ney accurately or not! Thanks a lot for posting, this really made my day!

[@unified_method]

thats a beautiful and less documented side of Walter White.

[@persianney]

That is the Arab/Turkish way. It makes a completely different sound than the Persian ney; a different instrument really.

[@persianney]

@psychoplot In my opinion the sound of the Turkish ney is no match for the Persian ney.

[@ewqenyipopkov8051]

this exactly as bashkir flute "kuray" - "Курай" ! the bashkirs of the master of the play on this instrument.

[@alijamali9456]

no you must search Kasaii master of ney

[@SyrousEghanian]

love your technical teaching style, thank you for sharing your knowledge....

[@yagoobawyan3256]

same replay i wanted to say :)

[@Raydjam21]

Dear persianney I have so much respect for you and your talent please tell us about how you got involve with Persian Ney and how you learned it, I’m Persian myself and bought a Ney at Esfahan about 7 years ago and I’ve tried to play it once every while but to this day I have not been able to create any sound out of it, man this is hard, it got to point that I thought my Ney might be defected until I show it to an expert and he jokingly told me that you are the one who is defected not the Ney.

[@back2themusic]

i love the sound of the Persian ney, thank you!

[@Azrifel]

Was given a Bashkirian kurai made by Azat Aitkulov. Thanks to your Doel den Kees van instruction video I had sound from it within 5 minutes (after trying for some hours the weeks before). I am crap, but it is the kurai sound, which I already find quite something. At least I will not be totally embarassing when my family asks me to play something. Going to watch this video several times and try more. Thanks Kees!

[@jaybiskwee1138]

222K views - how fitting for such a divine instrument and teacher

[@mamoshimamoshian9078]

where are you ? Is everything fine with you? I really wish you the best of luck. It was your video who got me going in Persian Ney. Thank's and I hope that you drop a line once in a while so that we know you are fine :)

[@pnozkeyutara3544]

Ney so difficult, most difficult flute ever to blow and use it!!!

[@javierdejesusahumadareyes3422]

Greetings. I want to build a PVC nay but I cannot find a fingering chart or something like that in the Internet for a La Mansur tunned ney. Would you tell me where can I find that? I Just need to know what sound give each hole in a La Mansur nay.

[@allaboutedm8050]

Is this a different technique to the Arabic ney? It looks exactly the same

[@clifffff7630]

I can't think of anyone who has contributed to the international recognition of Persian ney more than Kees van den Doel. Those who are interested to know more should visit his website persianney.com.

[@FoodfortheSubconscious]

Surely this is individually based by shape of mouth and teeth?

[@persianney]

@SaReGaMaTheArtist It does not damage the teeth unless you use a brass mouthpiece. I play on a plastic mouthpiece or straight on the wood.

[@ليل-خ5ف]

I want to learn to play the Persian ney , can you help me? I am from Iraq from Karbala

[@sourkreem8890]

do you hiss or whistle or do u need to know how to whistle i still cannot produce that sound

[@domibuqui]

This is an amazing, clearly explained and incredibly complete ney lesson. In fact, this is the first timeI think “this video deserves a good comment” and I actually give me the time to write it. I’m starting with the armenian duduk and my boyfriend was telling me about sounds and wind instruments nozzles when he found your video and we watched it. I do not have or intended to learn how to play a ney, but after your marvellous lesson I will probably try to. I think you have a kind and wonderful soul. Thank you

[@persianney]

@heliopijpe You need to practice a lot. It took me several hours a day for 5 years before it became clean. Several hours of serious practice 365 days a year for 5 years. There are ney masters that don't have the clean sound and it sounds fine too, I think whatever sound you make is good. Every ney player has a different voice, just like singers.

[@zarbithechti]

Dans un accès de frénésie difficilement imaginable j'ai acheté quatre neys persans après avoir vu cette enthousiasmante vidéo. Après quoi j'ai soufflé, soufflé, soufflé, ça fait un an que je souffle, j'en suis encore tout essoufflé, eh bien, rien, nothing, bernique, nib, que dalle ! Et je pense en avoir trouvé la raison : il n'y a aucun intervalle entre mes incisives permettant de laisser passer le moindre filet d'air (or dans toute flûte, il faut non seulement un biseau mais aussi un canal). En désespoir de cause je me suis rabattu sur d'autres nays avec lesquels je n'ai plus eu aucun souci. Mais regret, regret, regret...

[@salhami54]

Je peux vous aider, vous n'avez pas besoin d'intervalle entre les incisives. Tout réside dans la langue et le palais.J'ai fabriqué il y a plus vingt ans mes neys à partir de photo! puis j'ai appris tout seul.Plus tard j'en acheté mais aucun ne vaut celui que j'ai fabriqué pour la première fois .Comme quoi vous pouvez y arrivez. Peut-être que vous n'avez pas le bon ney parfois c'est de la camelote.Inutile de soufler comme un enragé au contraire il faut y aller calmement en changeant deux pamétres l'azimut et la hauteur ou plus précisement deux angle polaires : droite /gauche, haut/bas. Il s'agit de quelques degrés autour du zéro pas plus Plaquez le bout de la langue contre votre palais juste derrière les dents puis essayez de sortir un filet d'air.Normalement on entend un petit sifflement tsss tsss tsss. Souflez calmement.Une fois la technique acquise, passez au ney, oubliez les trous puis posez le milieu des incisives au bord droit (ou gauche suivant si vous etes gaucger ou droitier de la bouche et oui ça existe) et entourant les lèvres autour du ney sans le fermer hermétiquement : l'air doit sortir coté droit puis tsss tsss tsss je répète souflez calmement de manière laminaire puis le reste viendra. Réponds à toutes vos questions _______________ Cordialement Guy

[@zarbithechti]

Ryahi mostafa Je vous sais gré de votre aimable encouragement. Comme de toute façon je n'ai jamais renoncé à la thèse du miracle je vais m'obstiner, je ne suis plus à une année près. Sur les quatre neys achetés, je suis au moins sûr de la qualité de l'un d'eux. Le tsss tsss tsss que vous dites est celui qu'indique aussi Kees van den Doel (dont je n'ai pas manqué d'aller visiter le site après avoir grimacé devant la glace) et que j'ai bien noté ; quant au fait de ne pas souffler comme un forcené, le conseil m'avait précédemment été donné. Certes !... Dès que j'arrive à quelque chose, si le cas se produit, je vous fais un petit signe. En toute cordialité.

[@TrentJacobs]

A friend of mine who has friends in Iran shared this video with me. I am a bassoonist and have a love for Bulgarian and Hungarian sounds as well as related musics from the middle east. As a bassoonist I work with Arundo Donax all the time, and this video has inspired me to learn to use the material in a totally new way! I will be checking out your other videos and your website and you might get an order for a ney from me soon! Very intriguing instrument.

[@felixfeldman441]

вот единственное годное видео, на котором действительно показано, как играть на подобном инструменте.

[@gnarmarmilla]

Praise God! I finally got my first note on the ney after watching this video a second time. I wasn’t really hissing as you suggest. Thank you very much sir. I’m excited to learn some songs on this beautiful instrument

[@tontonflow5007]

Thanks ! I can now handle interdental ney way of blowing...because of you, it took me just two hours ! What a good teacher you are!

[@skoonsskoonsskoonssk]

Thanks a lot . : ) Bless

[@shahin0ne87]

Thanks for posting this lesson! Very helpful...

[@kurdishmusician]

iam nay player too since 2005 .

[@nickychuck]

Yeah, this guy is the man

[@willj4ck]

waow, man, you are incredible...how long does it take you to become the master of the ney ?

[@liamp1379]

It depends on what you call a master.

[@Geva555]

Can i blow perisan style in arabic ney?

[@hozan4813]

playing ney = نی نوازی

[@keytube1012]

I normally put it on my lips not in the teeth

[@majidaghaei6009]

This is outstanding that you can play Persian Ney really good and particularly traditional Persian melodies like Dastgahe Shur or Bayate Tork. The sound is clear and really nice. This video is truly amazing cause this is the first time I see a non-Iranian musician plays Ney in such a good way. You can also listen to "Hasan Kasaie, حسن کسایی" since he is the maestro of Ney in Iran.

[@majidaghaei6009]

Kash Nikravesh. well if you have it naturally you can consider it as a trait or capability and it helps you much but you do not need that necessarily and you can use other teeth or even by other positioning styles.

[@majidaghaei6009]

Kash Nikravesh. Thanks a lot. I am actually a traditional persion music singer and Kamanche player also, and I follow different music performances and playing styles particularly Tar, Santur, Ney, etc.

[@majidaghaei6009]

Kash Nikravesh. If you are living in Iran you can attend to Ostad Hamidreza Nourbakhsh singing classes in which you will have the opportunity to gain the knowledge of Tahrir an exercise related drills as well. For Tar you'd better start under supervision of a professional player. I am happy for you and your sister due to contributing in playing other instruments.

[@majidaghaei6009]

You're welcome buddy

[@purklang]

Thanks!

[@hameeddarweesh4506]

Thank you so much

[@TheAwesomeGingerGuy]

if you are finding this technique difficult, then try here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWPXiqeQbruIms0 I can now produce a sound :) si vous trouvez cette technique trop difficile, vous pouvez regarder cette vidéo: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWPXiqeQbruIms0 maintenant je peux produire un bruit :)

[@miladzen]

TheAwesomeGingerGuy This is very different Nay and technic. They sound different. Although they are both are beautiful, but not comparable!

[@cafeahoora1567]

سلام ودرودبی پایان برشما خیلی به دلم نشستی پاینده باشی خداخیرت بده همین یه ذره هم که بلدی داری یادمیدی جات توبهشته من شیش سال فوت کردم توش هیچکس بهم نگفت چیکارکنم ولی شمااینطورمجانی داری اموزش میدی دوست دارم مال هرکشوری که هستی وبه هرکیشوائینی که باشی درپناه یزدان پاک بلشی

[@aryanelp6822]

ایشون هلندی هست ولی کانادا زندگی میکنه ولی خیلی بیشتر از یک ذره بلده اگه بقیه ویدیو ها رو هم ببینید

[@SaReGaMaTheArtist]

Cool, but looks like this technique damages one's teeth with time.

[@aliakbarbourji]

Breaking bad dude

[@persianney]

People have asked for these lessons for while but I thought it would not be useful until I saw your excellent sehtar lesson videos. I still can't get my left hand on the frets. Is it possible to play with both hands on the frets and use your toenail to pluck the strings?

[@falantogan92]

Hello! Great lesson! Very helpful for me. Bashkort people has similar instrument. We call it kuray. I am learning how to play on kuray now. Kuray and ney has some differences but also has same principles to make a sound

[@armana9310]

درود برتو

[@escagad]

Thanks a lot for these video I have a Ney and i didn't have an idea to how to start playing I´m a profesional bassoon & sax player but I really love the ney.I will practice all these exercise.

[@mojtabashadi5561]

ممنون.

[@heliopijpe]

Kees, Ive been practising for 3 years now, Persian and Turkish Ney,,, can you please elaborate a bit mor on playing CLEAN in the higher registers. I figured that it would be something that would come in time, but I dont seem to figure it out. Raising the airpressure, or tongue pressure produces a lot of unwanted stress and hiss, and when I see you play, you play a clean high register, in full control, and smoot, can yoi pls provide more guidance for us on how to play CLEAN in the high regstrs?

[@puyaabbassi]

@ashkan1980able check out a tutorial i posted teaching how to produce a sound from the ney. once you can produce the sound, you can modulate the air flow and get the bam (thebase sound), though making the bam sound is hard at first. a thicker stream of air blown in at a slower pace will help you get the bam sound.

[@Cicikoma]

I got a suggeston...would you please make a video in which you play the turkish ney, the ney with the black plastic thing on? Dont know if its turkish.. I bought mine in Istanbul recently..and im hooked and stubborn!!! :D

[@persianney]

@KnowsTheDrill1984 No. It should really go in between your 2 front teeth, the bigger the gap the better. So it may move your teeth but in the right way for ney. I don't have space between my front teeth but had my dentist cut a small space, not all the way, between them.

[@persianney]

Sure but what should I put in it? I don't know what would be useful.

[@yoyojeko]

Excellent

[@sh.bhs.4789]

Thank you so much .you are good and kind man.👍👍👍شما شخص بسیار خوب ومهربانی هستید و بخاطر انتخاب نی وموزیک اصیل ایرانی بسیار خوشحالم که باشما همراهم ممنون استاد گرامی.👍👍👍💖💖

[@marcovalerio4922]

Wow

[@barzan0981]

hi. my name is ali . can i know where r u from. and where do u live . please

[@dariuskaufmann6419]

Thank you for this excellent video. I have a question: I am finding it difficult to get a focused tone. I have large front teeth which protrude below my upper lip, and I found that when I cut a small slip in the ney mouthpiece, it helps focus the sound. Is this permissable? Or will the slit in the mouthpiece create future problems in playing? I'm a beginner, and want to avoid bad habits. (The slit allows the mouthpiece to rest inside my upper lip more easily, and also the tongue has more access to the mouthpiece.) Thank you for any advice!

[@Rafiqkakar]

Thanks so much for your time taken to make this video. I asked a friend to get this Nay from Iran for me and I brought it to the US, now learning it and you video has helped so much. God bless you!!!

[@MoeKav]

Thank you so much. I will practice until I make my first sound with my 1/2" PVC pipe.

[@juntoringo]

Such valuable video! Thanks for sharing

[@hossein1326]

I just got my ney and in 5 minutes I made it sound. I can make it sound all right but when I close all the whole I can not make it sound. What am I doing wrong ? could you send me some hints please. Thank you for your posting, it is very nice of you to do that.

[@thegreatknight]

@KnowsTheDrill1984 you don't have to stick them make them as close as possible , let the ney touch the tip of ur upper lip and let it have an angle don't out it straight

[@monakavehahangari6994]

Wonderful! you have good information about Iranian music and musicians. wish you more luck

[@jahane_aryanar6902]

i just found you & it is so amazing & you explain so simple....i sing radif & i know....i can send you videos of radifnavazi or"playing radif"....curse if you want

[@avelkm]

Thank you very much! I'm planning to build ney out of plastic and bamboo - this kind of cane doesn't grow here:( I'm playing gucul floyara (see my videos),bulgarian kaval - they are without whistle, just like ney, but played "with lips", as turkish ney. But from time to time I am trying to get sound as of persian ney and sometimes succeed:) Tell me please, what are good dimension of ney to start practice (length or key and inner diameter?) Cheers from Ukraine:) Thanks:)

[@mehdiramezani7304]

Thank you for your useful Persian ney teaching God bless you

[@vgovahi]

Thanks for this Video , Ney is the most difficult instrument to play , I managed to make noise out of the Ney pretty fast , but to make it clear , took me long time ( I know for many it might takes 6 month to make the first noise ) , I can see you made lots of Ney in back ground how do you make the holes ( distance ... etc ) I am persian and live in Sydney Australia just to let you know how far your video been going .

[@4524dubai]

Kees, you are the best teacher I may say sir I have a question please, I am led to believe that to be able to play persian ney one needs to learn to produce four variety of sounds before being able to play persian ney and please tell me what are these four sounds and how to practice to master these sounds

[@goodcyrus]

I wonder who inspired you to put up this lesson... fantastic job, 5 stars, favorite and subscribed. More please!

[@a.nik5647]

So useful. Thanks a lot. It's almost one year I'm trying to make noise by my NIE . I dare to say you are one the best trainers who demonstrated the best way to use front teeth .Anyway appreciate you a lot.

[@GufthijFunf]

❤❤❤❤

[@poorya-hr5ec]

❤❤❤

[@sunjunkie007]

I'm really excited...I followed your directions to make a ney out of conduit...I will purchase from you shortly lol! I followed your lesson here just now and made sound within half an hour! Of course its unreliable but getting there I can't wait to have a proper Ney, such a beautiful instrument!! Thankyou so very very much!!

[@celsoalvizi]

I really want to thank you for your class. It took me only a couple of hours to get the desired sound from my ney. I still have a long way to go, but I'm very happy already. Thank you again. You are such a giver.

[@persianney]

An hour is very good. Some people take weeks (or forever). It took me 4 hours. You must have talent!

[@1zafarani]

are you shure is talent, because I've been blowing so much air that my ears hurt and I'm out of breath, I think you need to have a good set of lips and long tongue, which i lack both.

[@leventcankurt8308]

thanks for the heplful video, wondering so much how realy they play it..

[@karinthrier9514]

Thank you very much. I got it after long time trying and looking again and again your video and listen to your sound and explanations. Best teaching in English for me. Sorry there are much more teachers in other languages, but I only understand English, French and German. But also thanks for every of those explanations I did't not understood, but your were willing to teach me and this is also a very nice and an important energy who helped me to try and try again until I got it.

[@djolt2]

great videos, i play nay over 30 yrs, last couple of yrs tried persian nay, can get all the octaves, but, that sweeeet sound you make in the upper ocatve i cannot get, Is it, like with other flutes, a good quality nay, or is it you?

[@4524dubai]

what are these four consecutive notes ( tetrachord or dung played in difference interval ) which makes difference sounds in persian ney plesae ?

[@abdulsamadalmuraisi7022]

Love the video, very profectionsl. Lesson was delivered very very easy. Thank you.

[@NiekopTube]

Great instruction video! Finally someone who shows how to get the beautiful hissing sounds around the notes with the right embouchure. Thanks a lot!

[@ramibenyosef2995]

hi i want to start to learn nay. i saw ney with 6 and with 5 holes? what should i take? and i saw a kind with a rubber in the top. what to choose? thx..

[@Bilopopi]

Thanks for your video! I've got a question: I saw many videos of persian ney players and they had a different position of their neys in their mouths. Some stick it right, some stick it left. Is there any difference between that?

[@millard4303]

It took me three days blowing,,and at last it came out,,and onces it does,, your lips and toungue learns that,,,

[@WORLDMUKA]

Hello ... I can do the plastic mouthpiece remove ?

[@elazar1648]

Oh, what's the difference between the Arab and the Persian neys? I know the Turkish one uses the bashpare (mouthpiece)

[@mohsensalehi4213]

My hats off to you man, I love playing Nay and today I saw your video, really impressive. Great job.

[@lotfalibabak]

Great video. Looking forward to more. One suggestion would be to have a stand alone lesson featuring a really beautiful melody of your choice. but anything would be appreciated.

[@amir2287]

It actually took me only an like an hour to make the first sound on my Ney thanks to your video :) seriously.

[@paulflute]

brilliant.. lots of clear information there.. lesson 1.. and some.. ;9)

[@aneeskhorram9086]

Thank you so much for this video, I look forward to taking lessons from you in the future. Like you mentioned before, it's very difficult to show how to get the upper registers, but it's still a very big help.

[@serwaniserwani.]

wow good ,i am nay player ,since 2005

[@ctimur]

very interesting! this is quite different than the way we blow ney, here in turkey.

[@zoreastre]

Te gek,ik wind dat echt mooie!un bon pedagogue,bravo you teach very good.

[@Mendl23]

Thank you for this excellent video. And you are a very nise person