Persimmon Homes - Help To Buy - New Build Scandal - X-Ray - BBC Wales - 29/10/18

Rachel Treadaway-Williams meets the residents who are fed up with bumpy roads and pavements full of potholes on their housing development near Bridgend.
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[@kristinesharp6286]

Council should finish the roads and sue the developer. They should not get permits anymore. They really should have had to do the road first.

[@stevenhodgson834]

I worked for Persimmon Homes for over seven years. I would *never* buy a new build home.

[@MATTFL380]

Don’t then. You obviously got the shunt hence the bitterness.

[@framclean7910]

@@MATTFL380 your an idiot. He is right.

[@swineheartdoppleganger5516]

especially 'affordable housing Shared ownership or LH. I've seen some nightmares working in social housing since 2005. They are just built on the cheap.

[@markroyds23]

​@@MATTFL380or maybe he worked for persimmon so he knows for himself the shortcuts they take.....dummy...

[@stevendouglas3860]

Persimmon known for cheap Built . Easy money . No independent Accountability. There was a site in the UK where the bricklayers walked off the site because the mortar mix was unfit to lay bricks. The plumbing - well ( god knows if there Qualified. ..honestly .

[@domfjbrown75]

My sister bought a new build Persimmon in 1996. Her house was OK, barring a broken wire on the doorbell (and the repair was shoddy!). HOWEVER, the adjoining house had all sorts wrong - faulty plumbing and electrics fire starters!

[@neonskyline1]

It's not just this house builder, it's the whole system in Britain, it's set up to benefit a small number of people, it's been going on for centuries and nothing will ever change, i spent my whole life (52 years) fighting it, constantly watching people oppressed in what's supposed to be a rich free country, it's just one big stealth taxed rip off, have you never wondered why a Solicitor deals with property and not a Notary ? 4 years ago we had enough and left before it gets really bad, even when you get your pavement, it's ugly friggin tarmac, and the quality of the houses, well ......

[@grahamcole4240]

What amazes me is that this has been going on for years and still people spend their money buying them.

[@anthonysheriff2012]

Thats what i dont get, people are well aware now how BAD new builds are and yet the still pay a fortune for one with 200+ issues when they move in? Stupid

[@Jimmy-uh8vi]

Persimmon are well known for this!!! Happens all over the country!!!!

[@knicol46]

If your having issues with your housing developers just advertise your issue(s) daily on their own social media websites. They will suddenly pretend to care.

[@Jezz_Mcfly]

'Pretend' is right - Just like British Gas.

[@gazmini81]

im so glad i dont live on a new housing estate like this i feel so bad for all these people living like this . i hope it gets sorted out for them

[@oneeleven9832]

Unfortunately your quality of house depends on the site management & the subcontractors that work there…the firm that builds those houses is really secondary….if a site looks well run you will be ok if it looks a mess & is unorganised then you will get a crap product..

[@chrisdorset1762]

I will never buy a new home. I has this problem with Westbury.

[@dwperkins4762]

NHBC isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

[@teddyaldridge7871]

They are horrendous. They won’t fix my drive. And won’t fix my roof. This video brings back memories. We were lucky on our estate that we had people who made persimmons fix stuff that made them get stuff done. I’m not paying RHM any monies until the estate is finished.

[@MODFC100]

I've lived in my persimmon home for 20 years and the roads on my estate are still not adopted.

[@MrRodigan]

I’ve worked for them on new builds and no I wouldn’t buy one

[@GdaySport]

Worst thing is the residents have to pay an estate management fee on new homes. Sarcastically referred to as fleecehold by owners who feel they were duped into these fees with no legal protection of services being carried out and that the fees will not be unreasonably increased in the future. This is why you pay your council tax and I think the councils must be in the pockets of these developers when planning is granted. They both win and new home owners get f****d in the a**e...

[@mrsleb]

Lived on my estate for five years now & the roads still haven’t been done. The council are now never going to adopt the roads due to the mistakes.

[@phillipwebb1620]

And this is still the case. persimmon still passing on the responsibility of landscape upkeep and aftercare. They are only interested in profits.

[@denig2000able]

Persimmon work under the Charles Church brand selling "higher spec homes". Total BS. Went to see a development and the finishes were a disgrace. Said it to the sales rep. Her reply...."it's up to you if you want to buy one of our homes, maybe they are not for you!". No I said. They are substandard. And walked away. Oh and there were "management charges" to cut the communal grass areas and upkeep. Never jumped in my car so quick.

[@stevenhodgson834]

When I worked at Persimmon Homes, I heard the description "Charles Church homes are better quality materials, put together just as badly." Seems appropriate.

[@robogamer5384]

Worked for persimmon building concrete solid brick with red die in them ,this sink and float about causing uneven brickwork,concrete commons are only fit for footings underground ,facing brick should always have a percentage of clay to absord moisture from weather conditions, don't understand the large share price at persimmons, profits before quality if you ask me

[@fnuppyfnup]

very sad. Parents try to do the right thing for their kids but get scammed by greedy investor and corrupt councils.

[@sriramcan]

I guess the theme was 'Indian roads'!

[@superjke718]

Persimmon have been known for this for decades. Not sure why people still buy houses from them tbh.

[@user-itschad1954]

Even more so is why on earth are those bastards allowed to build. It's scandalous and shocking.

[@marcb8934]

Persimmon do the homes, the Council get paid by Persimmon for the roads.

[@DC-wp6oj]

Matchbox houses - would never buy one as a family home. Persimmon in particular are very very crap. Huge profits for the execs and shitty homes for the buyer. All the while the local and national govt couldn’t give a shit.

[@acostin4004]

The ceo's are the culprits of these problems cheapest labour , cheapest materials , cheapest employees , profit is all they care about.

[@factorylad5071]

I talked to somebody that bought a new build. They told me they couldn't hang any pictures on the walls because the walls were so meagre.

[@belltond1527]

What was the developer

[@nickcoppard5335]

​@@belltond1527kellogs

[@randyvalantino6850]

They also need to look at how these builders get out of any emloyment costs . They have many trades on there cites all self employed and very often working through middle men . No holiday pay sick pay or employers national insurance contributions. Then you wonder why the pension age is going up

[@olyjfitness]

Self enoloyed pay ni and tax ? They are not immune to deductibles

[@randyvalantino6850]

@@olyjfitness How about employers national insurance redundancy holiday pay and sick pay . We are talking about big house builders and bogus employment

[@olyjfitness]

@@randyvalantino6850 they normally have a mixture.

[@randyvalantino6850]

@@olyjfitness yes umbrella companies. Take a look on indeed try to find a construction job that's not self employed on new build . You have me who have worked for the same firm years. Told where to go and what to do and also how much they will get for the job . How is that self employed . Speed above quality very few apprentices.

[@olyjfitness]

@@randyvalantino6850 I work in construction so know how building works. It's full of crooks and chancers

[@MrMinimanmatt]

Leasehold should be banned its a shocking hangover from when barons owned much of the country

[@mattjames88]

Mines freehold but there's a service charge - joke really

[@MrMinimanmatt]

@@mattjames88 is that a private gated community?

[@mattjames88]

@@MrMinimanmatt no, just a normal persimmon estate. House itself is freehold but have to pay £14/month service charge to maintain rounds & green areas (even though all I can see is a road and neighbours cars 😂)

[@shabnakabeer9228]

We were looking to buy a persimmon home! After reading all the comments, A BIG NO! Thanks for saving us from this shit... Can someone recommend a good development? Is Bovis / Barrat a good one?

[@christopherwilliams8104]

Council's needs adopt all open spaces!

[@howardchambers9679]

Unless the work is done, they won't adopt otherwise it's their responsibility which will affect your council tax.

[@vincentmckenna1755]

Why buy before everything is completed

[@billbasherbill1364]

How many BBC employees were employed making this report ?

[@tonychamberlain8057]

It has to take a you tube video before anything is done!

[@stephenwilcox1597]

The grassland looks like that because persimmon have buried all thier rubble and other shite under the turf so when it rains theres no proper drainage.. I know this because I live in a Persimmon property and have had a Landscaper out to sort out the garden in the same state

[@deborahclark1761]

I live on a brand new site the same as that ours is called green wood valley, sounds lovely but after 2 years still no proper roads or paths same as yours 😡🤬

[@adriancoppin977]

If only this development was in Sicily…it would be sorted in hours.

[@andypandy955]

I bought a persimmon house 7 years of shite a set of bastards. They are conmen full stop. I did all my own problems with the house and I could go on.

[@samcaldwell7694]

No money in roads paths green areas greedy developers the council gave them permission they should make them finish it

[@troytrey]

Looks like the residents might have to put money in a pot and pay for the works

[@pebblespop9053]

Wait until they get sewage coming up their kitchen sink, sunken slabs which causes the house to flood, damp coming up outside bricks. Leaking toilets, loose windows. No insulation or fire cavity, gas box underground and filled up with water. Absolutely brilliant 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@saintjude8029]

I work for persimmon homes.They are the worst company I've ever worked for.Im sorry you had to suffer.Im just a small cog in the wheel But i apologize on behalf of all tradesmen.ONCE YOU GIVE THEM A GOOD/BAD REVIEW YOUR DONE.All the site management needs is a positive customer review over 60% to send to the contracts manager,who sends it to the managing director,who gives him a pat on the back and a bonus.Then you will be palmed off to sales.WHO DONT CARE THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR BONUS FOR THE SALE.

[@georgeshepherd694]

Persimmon have now named their development swamp gardens!!!

[@OriginalNoseBleed]

Everybody hears so much bad things from new builds especially from companies like Taylor Wimpey and persimmon yet still go out and buy em ffs

[@swineheartdoppleganger5516]

Because these homes are 'affordable housing' the developer/builder gets paid less than for other private sector developments. Corners are cut at every turn and this is what you have Help to Buy is funding shoddy, cost cutting builders.

[@rossington1680]

DONT VOTE TORY!!!!!!

[@mesparky9]

This is standard persimmon with the usual excuses. They force their workers to work in unsafe environments and force housebuyers into completion dates knowing the standard of build will be poor. It's all about targets and bonuses. Their two busiest times are up to June and up to Xmas which just happens to be their half and end of financial year. Still I blame customers, do some research before you commit to such a large investment. There's lots of evidence out there.

[@hannecatton2179]

We!come to Pile.............pile of rubbish !

[@tyjakkty8668]

its the new scam talk the dream take the cash and leggit...the state of these homes seems to be the norm all the houses round my way look the same

[@rottenheavenly6245]

Anyone who trusts a builder they don't know is a fool....i'm a professional construction manager and even at my level there are idiots who haven't a clue what they are doing...they just don't know what they are doing...clueless idiots who can't read a drawing..plan...specs. Ask them whats the mortar mix for laying bricks..clueless...ask them what control measures are in place..clueless...ask them anything and all you'll get is....aye i'll need to check that

[@sicks6six]

them houses were built on green fields, I bet someone objected to them being built, but it didn't bother the people who bought them, we need to regenerate old housing stock, most of it far better than the new builds, old stock has brick internal walls and heavier joisting, the new builds are plastic porch and plasterboard internal walls, stop tearing up the fields for inferior housing.

[@karlsellers]

I used to build houses for persimmon for 4 years All the trades get a price for each job which isn’t a lot and so everyone has to rush to make there money. All the bosses are bothered about at persimmon is completing as many houses as they can per year to get their mega bonus’s I’m talking millions.

[@karlsellers]

Bunch of *unts

[@KingSobieski]

I can tell you that the Ukrainians know how to build a proper structure. No way could a Parsimmon take a tank round.

[@dirkdingle7926]

Wish I never bought a persimmon house utter crap

[@DessieTots]

And idiots still buy Persimmon, even after all the bad publicity and recorded never ending list of serious snagging.

[@bakerhussainuk]

Many silly people still buying houses from persimmons and new builds

[@amritpaulsandhu4641]

rubbish house builder don't buy

[@mildredchey3930]

Persimmon is the worst builder ! Their house is cheaper than the other developers !

[@plumstead3078]

A lot of stoners work for persimmon

[@tobyclarke5026]

Honestly, the developer doesn’t look great in this video but really. Common sense people. You probably bought off plan and now your complaining. The guy who left a kerb for two years!!! Omg. Chuck some wood down. The lady bickering on about damaging her car with some gravel instead of tarmac. Ummm heard of gravel driveways? . . Honestly. No one looks good in this pointless video. Has anyone thought about how lucky they are to have won the lottery of being born in a country where there isn’t t complete devastation through world wide political war and political corruption of a country? Just to state two of many arguments you should be thankful for not being in such a situation. Get. A. Grip 1st world people

[@mcfrosty8739]

You can't throw their issues to the side just because other countries fare worse. It's not their fault that there are an endless amount of corrupt, backwards, 3rd world countries who can't seem to manage to even accomplish one thing we managed to do 2 centuries ago. These are people's homes, where they eat, sleep and spend most of their time. Granted, they're not life-ending issues but they've still been scammed as the developer hasn't completely fulfilled their obligations. If your boiler breaks, don't bother replacing it. There's plenty of people out there who don't have the luxury of bathing in hot water, same with your car. Just walk instead, plenty walk miles just to get some dirty water to drink so don't bother moaning or even attempting to fix it; just walk instead