Persona 2: Innocent Sin [JRPGs Told Long]

Tatsuya and pals meet the 3rd Reich. Antics ensue.

[@firescale2091]

Thank you for the kind comments everyone! Might take a bit of time for Eternal Punishment to come round, but it will come!

[@toughlondonman]

7:45 can someone please tell me what this music is called I have to know

[@jasonenns5076]

You pronounced xibalba "x" in spanish or in dialects have either "h" sound or "ch" sound, like Oaxaca, or México all "x" sounds like "h". But original pronounciation was Mechíco with same spelling. So most likely it is pronounced chibalba or hibalba.

[@ormyan1908]

@@toughlondonmanoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo😊

[@jimphoenix494]

Therapist: Don't let Shadow Maya scare you, she's not real Shadow Maya: DARK DIMENSION

[@tataladdd4251]

Jim Phoenix Comments you can hear

[@SakurakoLover]

*Tatsuya's party dying noises*

[@peternguyen1858]

It’s funny to say, this isn’t the first time Joker and Hitler had an interaction, the other being DC Comics.

[@lewisaino]

Joker hating Red Skull

[@MosesX-Labs]

If only Hitler was in Persona 5

[@littenfire3563]

This is so well done. P2's story is pretty crazy and I feel like this does a good job at summarizing it and making it easier to understand

[@IceLizardsUnited]

Really great breakdown of Innocent Sin's story. A good recommendation for people who can't seem to get into the pre-Persona 3 games.

[@northwestclasspnw7974]

I pulled up this video after a few hours in P2. The pacing in the story is weird as hell, in comparison to 3,4, and 5 it's crazy fast at times. And I'm not sure how I feel about the "contact" thing.

[@zealuna]

NorthWestClass PNW well thats just because you’re not used to it. and i don’t find any pacing problems?? unless you mean dragged out dungeons like the air raid shelter. things were super slow and as you learned more more things happened at once until the climax. like a STORY

[@edwardsuou]

Everyone should at least try, its story is enjoyable to anyone who played P3 Besides Maya is more than enough a reason to play this game.

[@nkoonkukoo]

@@edwardsuou the gameplay tho... I had a better time playing SMT I than this

[@edwardsuou]

@@nkoonkukoo it’s not that bad, besides you can always get some strong persona and force your way through with auto battle and estoma This way you can basically spend less time in battle than reading dialogues for sure. Besides Eternal punishment is actually pretty interesting in its gameplay because there are several good challenges throughout the main game and a whole new ng+ dungeon with a “secret” boss fight, if you played persona 5 or 4 ng+ you know what I mean.

[@sokumotanaka9271]

Actually tatsuya super has daddy issues, it's why he turns delinquent in the first place. Man's father is neglectful and overbearing for him to literally just be a clone of his brother.

[@toryficarola]

Tatsuya doesn't get any daddy issues (but we see he had brother issues in the next P2) so all he get a is a "REALLY FUN YOYO", good looks & sick motorcycle sound effect mimicking skills.

[@BlueMageDaisen]

Technically he does, it's not fully explored in game directly but him and Katsuya's father was accused of being a corrupt cop and disgraced, I'm unsure if he ended up in prison or just retreated from their lives, but it leads to his absence which results in Katsuya's promotion to the role of parent, leading to the strained relationship between the two brothers Tatsuya went off the rails from the lack of parental guidance and the trauma from being stabbed by an arsonist, and Katsuya, upon giving up his dream to be a partissier so that he could provide for Tatsuya, dedicates a good chunk of his detective work to trying to exonerate his father

[@inept7247]

I love Inko/Lisa, she actually had my favorite female persona design next to Yukari. Edit: I have no idea where I got Inko from. Her name is Lisa, but I've been calling her Inko for the longest.

[@seafoam6119]

Lisa’s nickname is ginkgo so I get why

[@elementalsgami1]

The game UI starts calling her Ginko early on, so you're not wrong.

[@Roberto-mm4gr]

Ginko is the nickname Michel gives her

[@tibb.y1892]

@@Roberto-mm4gr oh you mean Undie Boss

[@ShadowBaofu]

Best censoring ever. Hitler in a trenchcoat and aviators. But really this was extremely well-presented. Using Adagio in Strings for that one particular scene you know about is a nice touch.

[@KenronTheGamer]

He was censored in Japan for the PSP version because of CERO having rules about having no historical characters in the games. So when it came over here Atlus decided to keep it as is.

[@Rognik]

Persona 2, the game bold enough to have you KILL HITLER!

[@chironthecuddley6144]

Once I get my PSP fixed, I'm playing this game again because of your video.

[@snakeslife-uroborodjinn790]

The ending of IS was perfect. I don't see how EP was ever needed to "finish" the story...

[@riceyboi5215]

I mean the end of Innocent Sin, Nyarlathotep was still out there

[@bobgray6498]

I actually think Innocent Sin is helped a lot by Eternal Punishment. This ending would’ve left me so dissatisfied

[@jasonenns5076]

@@riceyboi5215 Nyarlathotep will always exist. He and Philly are two sides of the same coin.

[@Xman34washere]

@@jasonenns5076 however, he was sealed after ep

[@shungite8240]

@@Xman34washere I’d argue that the seal is starting to break given how we’ve seen a lot of Lovecraft references in P5R

[@Dexter037S4]

God I love those interludes. Stay-Puft marshmallow man was perfect!

[@CallumTheCalamity]

I watched this to remember what happened in this confusing as hell story, thanks for it also I love the usage of the beast god statue music from GU.

[@RedKingdomWarrior]

38:24 That was an amazing reference! I had to relisten to this a couple of times just to make sure it was what I thought it was! XD

[@angelskippings3481]

Been tryna see if anyone else felt the same

[@angelskippings3481]

What is this???

[@lolyoutoobe]

Thank you this is a great video, cant wait to watch the rest of your videos

[@BrassBallsofSteel]

Thank you so much for these videos. I recently lost my emulator save for P2 and these videos really helped. Truly enjoyed it, fantastically made, and got across the emotional moments of these games perfectly.

[@phongtuan2000]

Well done, man. Keep go in for P2 Enternal Punishment

[@tehandroidmaster]

So, I came across your JRPGs Told Long series through the SMT2 playthrough that you did, and I adored every second of it. This is the next thing that showed up in my recommendations and I can't wait to watch it! Firescale, you absolute madlad! Keep on doing whatever the hell it is you're doing because it clearly works.

[@Next-xm2dh]

Ekichi Is the Best..... Just had to let That out

[@twistedgamezz8171]

I onlly played Persona 5, but god damn. I had no Idea they took an elder god straight from lovecraft stories and intergrated him the way lovecraft created him to be.

[@twistedgamezz8171]

For those who don't know, Nyrlathotep is also known as The King in Yellow

[@twistedgamezz8171]

And is the only elder god the can take a human form, to my knowledge.

[@scottrauch1261]

So, I wasn't paying attention, how do you feel about the boss fights?

[@duckman5494]

great question, i don't think he really explained about that, might have to watch it again edit: i've watched it 2 more times and i still don't know.

[@infoniwceniocwdhvredidhave8126]

I think he called them almost impossible

[@duckman5494]

A Thing nah that's not quite it, he said sth but i forgot

[@toughlondonman]

There pretty easy

[@WhisperingPersona]

So far the only boss that’s given me trouble was Angel Joker and that was because I wasn’t prepared and the one hit kill attack. Beat him the 2nd try though, the boss fights have been easy.

[@MonteBond8]

Well done video and some amazing songs I now need to check out. Thanks for the work

[@INeededANameForThisChannel]

Great synopsis! I'm looking forward to what you do next

[@asparr0w]

Fantastic video man, surprised you don't have more views because this is a great summary that's still darn entertaining despite the length. New subscriber!

[@NeviTheLettyFan]

Just got to your channel, love the editing and comedic timing. Lovely content on one of my favorite games. Thank you so much for this, I'll try to watch more of your stuff later!

[@dannyd4339]

this fucking game. always gives me deep feels no matter how many times i play/watch it

[@sleepyprinny]

Y'know. I've akways loved Ann and Lisa's characters precisely *BECAUSE* they're both white chicks who are totally Japanese in every way except.... that they're white and how everybody just assumes that you being white = you can speak english and must not be Japanese. I appreciate Persona 2 and 5 tackling that little social issue unique to folks who look one way but are otherwise culturally something else. You have no clue how many 'go back to China' comments I've gotten for the exact same bullshit. ...Granted, it's mostly older folks, but still.

[@RocketSlime]

Ann isnt white well she is quarter white but for her its less of a thing than lisa

[@LeleSays]

Always wanted to know the story of Persona 2: IS after playing Persona 2:EP a long time ago.. This video was absolutely great for that. Loving the humour too. Subscribed!

[@kyfy24]

Hi just stumbled onto your channel and absolutely love it. I'm sure it's a ton of work to put out longer videos like this, but they're really entertaining. I've been binge listening to them at work. Thanks for the great content!

[@haouryuuzarc]

This was an absolutely gorgeous video. You deserve so many more subscribers than this, I'm disappointed I can only be one

[@x.a.n.a.9397]

How to make a B cup look hotter then A D cup Put hearts on it

[@burnt_ramen9757]

great game, wish more people would play it

[@pughug545]

Finished the game a few months ago and I agree! Also hi again lol

[@burnt_ramen9757]

@@pughug545 highly recommend Eternal Punishment now, also hello again lol

[@lewisaino]

The game that I actually liked

[@CreamerOfTheDairySquad]

1:27 Persona 2: Lisa Dancing All Night! That made me lol imagine the only character is lisa and shes screaming in Cantonese the whole time lmao!!

[@WhisperingPersona]

One of the best retrospectives of persona 2 on here if not the best! Very entertaining video, very informative and easy to understand. I’m currently playing this myself, and I still don’t know what’s going on lol. This video cleared up some points for me.

[@justinsmith9213]

Ive just spent weeks playing persona 1, IS and EP, when I could have just watched your videos. Why didn't I find you sooner

[@northwestclasspnw7974]

I looked up and found this video an hour after playing Innocent Sin, it's just so dated in how it plays. There's no way

[@nkoonkukoo]

@@northwestclasspnw7974 Played P2 for the story, stopped halfway because of the fucking encounter rate. Good story though

[@Seven_DB]

Why is playing the games a bad thing? They're good games lol

[@Seven_DB]

@@nkoonkukoo The encounter rate isn't that bad. P1's is horrid tho

[@justinsmith9213]

They a very good games but I struggled with them alot. Since I'm playing through them mainly for the story, these video were very helpful and very well made.

[@EmmettRhyse]

A great breakdown of P2! How do you not have more subs my dude?

[@cyanryann64]

Dude you did a good job on this vid you deserve more subs

[@Arcsin27]

goddamn i think this might be my favorite persona story (i just watched buffmaisters cutscene movie on it but i got the entire plot from it so id say im allowed to be a fan lmao) edit: nah now im playing it for real, thanks emulation

[@lucascarvalhodeaquino4147]

This channel deserves more views 🤔

[@JinwooYoon1217]

Man, I teared up at the end there. I didn't see that coming.

[@toryficarola]

I totally lost it at the Ghostbusters Staypuft Marshmallow Man reveal audio in Xibalba. >_

[@martil.5642]

Daddy issues: the game

[@melancholyvicci]

This was a an amazing video please do More from the SMT series

[@Noodle1423]

I fucking love these. Do strange journey!!

[@cynidox]

Great video

[@SuperMegahart]

Loved the Dancing Mad bit around 30:40

[@Arcsin27]

lmao i thought of the stay puft marshmallow man too!

[@cifer8070]

I have never played a game this beautiful

[@Noodle1423]

I wish I could see the full list of all these OST tracks you use for these videos. You use them really appropriately.

[@firescale2091]

They are in the ending credits scroll, but yes one of these days I have to set some time to go back through my older videos and put the full list in the description as well.

[@AlexMeza2]

100th sub. nice video

[@OnDavidsBrain]

27:38 NOW WE SHALL SHOW YOU PUNY PERSONA USERS THE POWER OF GERMAN SCIENCE!!!

[@cww2490]

I'm sad no video I've watch ever made a connection with the whole shadow/other you deal was in Persona 2.

[@bobgray6498]

Jum is iconic. Maya Amano is my favorite video game character ever ❤

[@thefool8224]

i finally understand how hellsing crazy story about the last battalion came to be

[@capitalchirp2418]

Thank you for adding FF5 overworld music-

[@chronica6457]

Watching this so I can remember what happened after rage quitting the game for months Thanks

[@cocomp3870]

Thank God firescale is a normal human being. I forgot my mic was on in the breakout room and they heard me watching the first 4 minutes of the video

[@LeviW32]

I like to listen to video eeays to fall asleep to, but 13:28 woke me up so hard lmao

[@NaoyaToudou]

Oh and one time, at band camp

[@Kamjay27]

I genuinely thought that at 41:22 I misclicked on a QI video. My current diet of SMT/Persona and QI videos didn't help. The Blue Whale is Alan Davies Ultimate Persona

[@lewisaino]

Only thing that matters is that Maya is Best Persona Girl. Your Vid made the game more worthwhile

[@lucaskincanyon7393]

Quick note from someone who played the later games first, then came back and played Persona 2; DO NOT PLAY THIS GAME LIKE ITS Persona 3-5, it will take forever. Trust me, spam those fucking fusion spells, and if you have a move that hits every enemy, do it. The fights in this game take FOREVER, but are super easy. Especially on hard mode, it’s like a damage sponge. And trying to get a new persona, you might as well grind because getting cards takes FOREVER. UHHHHH.

[@cupsoup7244]

Maybe the innocent sin was the friends we made along the way

[@toryficarola]

I skipped the ending during the last 5 minutes because it is way too sad to relive. :'(

[@hennyzhi2261]

Man, Philemon is a dick in this game... If he ever comes back I hope it's as the villain. Sure, he could undo it all but making the lives of children into a game is really sick.

[@RocketSlime]

No he literally cant if he tries that nylary will literally just undo it he and Philemon are equals and philemon isnt all powerful ye only is able to reset the universe via a clause basically

[@yomama8212]

22:00 i don’t know why this is so amusing to me lol

[@DoctorMarius]

I just downloaded Eternal Punishment. It has fairly good reviews, while Innocent Sin did not. Thank you so much for this video, this was a great way to get the story of Innocent Sin before starting up Eternal Punishment!

[@heavencard4754]

Why do the cutscenes remind me of danganronpa lmao oof I wanna play p2is now

[@Shadowwolf-1337]

24:43 i was like "oh no, please don't..." then i remembered the upload date

[@cedarsapling18]

Such a trippy ride, omg… The whole temple fire thing is so confusing… Lisa thinks she killed the girl… who is Joker… who is Maya… who isn’t maya, because maya died? but she’s fine? because Joker is the arsonist? who didn’t kill lisa or maya, but stabbed Tatsuya…? yeah makes sense!

[@Itz_Jokester]

I'm sorry a underground what now filled with kamikaze WHAT!?

[@bohenson4820]

24:30 me: dont say It bo Aldo me: when maya is susy BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM BUDADUM

[@Monarch_943]

Goldmine channel :D

[@poxy5122]

underrated video, this is a pretty good summary that just makes it easier to understand for a newcomer but I wouldn't recommend to experience this first obviously because this is kinda more of a summary then actually experiencing it, though v nice (also does anyone know the music that plays at 46:21?)

[@firescale2091]

It's called Gymnopedie and that version was occasionally used in the velvet room in innocent sin. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZDIaH2hl6-AgZY Makes me wish they alternated the velvet room music in later instalments... I miss ya Belladonna and Nameless.

[@Kamjay27]

@@firescale2091 I surely missed that when I was trying to finish the compendium in P5R and the velvet room music went on... And on... And on... I fused my last 20-30 persona listening to album on Spotify ffs

[@billyvitajedi]

I KILLED YUKINO BY NOT SAYING TO GET UP NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU COULD'VE SAVED HER ARE YOU KIDDING ME WHYYYYY btw really good video!

[@apocrypta.]

mooooom, theres nazis in my persona game!

[@pv1612]

Pretty sure it’s both the only one featuring nazis and the only one that lets you be gay

[@rose.chan00]

Technically, you can be gay if you’re FeMC/Minako/Hamuko/Kotone and decide to date Aigis Yosuke might be a closeted bi as there is a cut romance option with him But who cares about that when YOU CAN DATE JUN :DDDD

[@Alopkaable]

Tatsuya is the og chad

[@Demi-Joker]

Do you have a track list?

[@toughlondonman]

18:19 anyone know that music

[@firescale2091]

I have no idea why I can't find the version in my video on KZbin anymore, but its an instrumental version of Kimi no Tonari that they use for the PSP ending of Innocent Sin. So here's the original song. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6LCm4CCltungq8

[@ZKP314]

Me before watching this: Why isn’t Philemon here more often? Me after: FUCK PHILEMON!

[@MrTonnyGamer]

Specially in an Atlus JRPG*

[@kat7394]

Why did u include the sad persona 3 music in the video T-T i hate u but i also appreciate u for the video

[@bobfu8984]

Watching so I can play sequel this ones only on psp

[@dirkcoin1037]

Seriously, what a good reason they couldn't just heal Maya with dia. If only ff7 thought of something to explain itself..

[@sideshowkrill4693]

Can anyone tell me the music that starts at 9:19? Thanks

[@firescale2091]

The Dorm Theme from Persona 3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2OqqpSnm5x4pbc

[@Eberrytas]

Moar

[@LongTran-kp3kz]

The Persona 2 duology is honestly really, REALLY freaking good! I still kinda feel annoyed that Hitler was censored in Innocent Sin considering we get to beat the ever loving crap out of him and his shitty mustache. Yeah, screw the Last Battalion! Also, Maya's leitmotif is really nice, especially the remix in P3 FES. Also, Lisa is not very white aside from her looks. she's about as Japanese as you can get. Y'know, being born and raised there all her life? ....I can relate, y'know. not being white, of asian descent, and being born and raised here in the US.... Fucking phenotype stereotype bullsthit.... Anyway, yeah. P2:IS is awesome! The duology is honestly one of the strongest entries in the series, period.

[@shinyblue4774]

How Atlus made a good LGBTQA+ character like 20 years ago But P5 has those two..... Welp at least Jun and Tatsuya are really cute.

[@pineapplepearjuice6717]

Diggin a bit into other smt titles i found out that madame ginko, a character from shin megami tensei devil summoner, is in fact, a trans woman or at least shes implied to be, that game came out like in the 90s i think soooo yeah.

[@skylargoo477]

Is this why they put grief seeds in Royal?

[@adrianchambless4857]

Rip super spec

[@biggestidiothere3469]

Me: Awww so this is a game about becoming one with your mistakes and friendship Hitler:NOPE NAZI TIME!!!!!!

[@ZKP314]

Wait, why don’t we talk about the first one? I’m new here.

[@KatelynS0209]

No clue, the game is actually really good

[@mgsxmike]

Persona 2's story is bonkers lol

[@Pduarte79]

P1 and P2 were Mandela effected. 🤭😁

[@TheXMan]

Hey, I’m sorry, I was just listening to this video in the background and tuned it out. Did you say NAZIS!

[@thetrainisIate]

whats a persona 5

[@togipoogaming3775]

persona 2 and ep has some complex characters lol

[@Mucblaster24]

Eikichi is the blackest sounding Japanese person. Change my mind

[@lulzor5]

persona 2 on the psp neutered the dificulty of the og ps1 version for some reason

[@dzigayu4944]

To not oppress the casual Persona 3-4 fans with... hardship, or having to think... even though you have the option to choose your difficulty.

[@scottrauch1261]

They reduced the encounter rate and compensated the exp for the decrease rate and added save points. Wouldn't call that neutered. I've heard way worse.