Iain McGilchrist at Realisation Festival 2023: The Matter with Things

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[@margaretbooth384]

I learn more from Iain McGilchrist than all my years of education and he has enriched my life at my age. Still learning 😊❤

[@AugustNightingale]

Reading the Master and Emissary certainly changed my life. It changed the way I made decisions and how I evaluated what I was doing

[@RT-eb6vo]

Lovely. What changes have you found to be most effective in reversing left hemisphere dominance and returnign control to the right?

[@cheri238]

Thank you, Dr Iian McGilchrist for your books and lectures and all those that listen and have dialogs with you. Your writings will move our world forward with illustrations and luminations for generations to come. With deep reverence and respect for the man you are and all the work you have accomplished in one lifetime. Another favorite book of mine is "Told in a French Garden August 1914," by Mildred Aldrich. Copywrite ,1916. To F. E. C. A prince of comrades and a royal friend whose quaint humor gladdened the early days and whose unfailing faith inspired me in later days to turn a smiling face to Fate. Meditation on Silence My silence like an expanding sphere, everywhere. My silence spreads like a radio song, above left or right, within and without. My silence spreads like a wildfire of bliss; the dark thickets spreads thickets of sorrow and the tall oaks of pride all burning up. My silence, like the ether, passes through everything, carrying, the songs of earth, atoms, and stars into the halls of His infinite manson. Paramahansa Yogananda "The ending of time is the beginning of love. We are the history of all mankind." Krishnamurti 🙏❤️🌍🌿🕊🎵🎶

[@margueritespringer3687]

Spectacular dialogue from Ian. It touched me deeply. Thank you Ian

[@LenaCabana]

Thank you for posting this lecture ❤

[@GordonSymons-BEYOND]

What a gift to humanity!

[@georgegolitzin6196]

Wonderful talk! Much of Dr. McGilchrist's philosophical thought is anticipated in Arthur Eddington, circa 1927, the great physicist and idealist philosopher of science--the primacy of relations over relata, of consciousness over matter. "The stuff of the world is mind-stuff." But I find it so refreshing to hear this today, drawn out of his neurological study.

[@abbasalchemist]

Also recommend all the works of Peter Kingsley who also outlines these issues via the Presocratics. His book Catafalque touches on nearly all of Ian's points.My channel also amplifies this work along with my own scholarly contributions.

[@abbasalchemist]

@SB-gs5wg Absolutely true. Bergson is a hidden gem.

[@frankwhite1816]

An incredible mind. What a gift to listen to Iain. Thank you so much for this. I wish we could point his intellect toward solving The Metacrisis. He and Daniel Schmachtenberger need to do a unrestricted no time limit podcast where they grab a series of pints and aren't allowed to stop talking until they flush out an actionable solution. 🙂

[@abbasalchemist]

I would argue that "solving" the "problem" is already to use the left brain paradigm.

[@equinnox70]

Dr. Iain McGilchrist, Daniel Shmachtenberger, and Dr. John Vervaeke just had a three-hour discussion at Oxford.

[@abbasalchemist]

@@equinnox70 It's an interesting discussion

[@jamesayres6697]

Thanks Iain, brilliant as usual

[@dalibofurnell]

Thank you, Dr Iain Mc Gilchrist. God Bless you

[@Rebecca0010]

I’m newly introduced to Iain McGilchrist. It’s been an intriguing two days of being introduced to him.

[@shiracohenyoga3492]

Thank you so much Iain for all your wonder-full work! Lovely talk and questions. On the sacred- the Vedic tradition describes it well, called That, the Self. The essence that is all, that all is part of, that all can be, will be and was made of, yet can never diminish or take away from That. It is transcendent as well as manifested, ever creative. The Upanishad Isha describes it well. The observer, the observed and act of observation are all one once we enter the Self state. Or Isha Upanishad: The Self is everywhere. Bright is the Self, Indivisible, untouched by sin, wise, Immanent and transcendent. It is who holds the cosmos together. Again Prashna Upanishad: Those who know the Self, the seat of consciousness, In whom the breath and all the senses live, Know all, gentle friend, and live in all.

[@kt4774]

'The Matter With Things' has changed the way I relate to life.

[@theobservereffectexplained1102]

Thank you Iain 🎉I appreciate your language, attention and intentions to give clarity to humanities. When I first heard your explanation about the divide brain I got to see why I was not seeing the divided brain of people around me because I too was looking from my divided brain. 😂 When you state about the different states of water, I thought about Trinity. Judging the left with the right brought about continued and uninterrupted conflicts for thousands of years. I am not sure but New Testament might be right brain and Old Testament left brain. One Bible and three major religions lost in translation because it was written. In the Bible love is a commandment. If loving your enemy might look impossible it’s possible to find common ground good enough stop wars. Gun and butter but when guns become butter in a divided brain values and culture the challenges become challenging. By writing a policy left brain subdue the expressions of right brain intentions and creativity. Congratulations for opening the conversation beautifully with truth and love.

[@HakWilliams]

World's best audience.

[@ericmalone3213]

I wonder if Iain McGilchrist has read Franklin Merrell-Wolf's The Philosophy of Conciousness Without An Object?

[@georgegolitzin6196]

Interestingly, in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy's entry on Heraclitus (minute 34:00 etc in the video), one may find this sentence: "Unlike most philosophers, he challenges the right brain rather than the left."

[@PhilGribbon]

GOOD~•-¿@?

[@dabrupro]

Is that the dude who said you can never step in the same river twice.

[@abbasalchemist]

​@@dabruproYes, that's the dude

[@gordonmeeks2447]

Wonderful, essential sharing of insights by right-brain-dominants. How do we engage our collective corpus callosa to communicate successfully with left-brain-dominants before it's too late?

[@siyaindagulag.]

Having had a similar thought , your comment stood out somewhat. I can venture only this : Live life ! (this action pleases the Master). The battle alluded to ; should it come to that , will require our most Herculean Patience . We are , thanks to the work of this humble and brilliant man sailing our ship into, this very moment, into the teeth of a Gale...and the tide ,that traitor too...saps the Will , robs us our speed , so.. patience, friend . Live Life. It pleases the Master.

[@siyaindagulag.]

..Failing this , perhaps a collection of the vilest , most anti- human , beaureaucratic disembodied , bullshit, rolled into a tidy cylinder .... and ceremoniously jammed into the appropriate earhole of the Hubrant.... but I digress ! 😂

[@ryanbachman3850]

​@siyaindagulag. I like your words friend, going through a tough time, a bit of a liminal space as I integrate more ideas, but I need every reminder the universe has to offer that my responsibility here is to live my life

[@siyaindagulag.]

@@ryanbachman3850 Please forgive my lyrical waxing and vulgar torment. Language has it's limits and I, my foolishness. Some time-out in the shade of the big beautiful tree is called-for.😉

[@NickKowtko859]

❤😇

[@PromoMIAR]

❤

[@B_Ruphe]

Better to be using lapel mikes, for consistent sound quality (and also the comfort and focus of the speaker). Also there was poor balance between the two mikes.

[@leonoraperron4751]

Can't use lapel mikes for the question askers, and their sound quality was The Worst.

[@markrickel1632]

This was an amazing talk. The bunching of questions at the end was a horrible idea. Since Ian spent so much time talking about relationships, I find it ironic that the question answer relationship was executed without prejudice. I get the time pressure, but just let it go and answer each question until time is up.

[@shahlaahy4372]

FEELING the Sacred...wonder why some have less of the Right?...which humanity needs badly to save itself!

[@vinm300]

George Santayana would've enjoyed this talk

[@TriggerIreland]

Ground of being = now?

[@Louiseskybunker]

The Beautiful God does NOT need or want any circumcision.

[@VigiLogic]

The English-speaking world has finally gotten its (perhaps improved) Henri Bergson.

[@Mentat1231]

Made it to 18:30 and can't keep going. I have no idea what an "experiential world is" or how an organ can produce one (ex nihilo?), but even if I just pushed through all that, and even if I granted that brains or hemispheres of brains can attend to things (which they certainly cannot).... The fact that he thinks "they attend differently" clearly and obviously entails that "they produce different experiential worlds" means his way of thinking/reasoning is completely foreign to me. I have no idea how to make that connection, so I don't think I'm going to be able to follow the rest of this.

[@thebenefactor6744]

I've never been so glad to be an idiot when I hear this man.

[@FC_N]

That's a beautiful talk; a work of art.(not necessarily agreeing with the premise as language is very important to communicate one's needs (mothers get it wrong-intuition without reason fails) and to be conscious and work with others. Humans complement each other to solve problems. Otherwise, they fall into self-reference, narcissism and even psychopathy. Besides, who would buy your book if no one can speak or read and write or know about philosophy? Or the ones who speak would be only the ones who have the preferred interhemispheric connectivity that fits with the ideology of their group? (including gender and sexual preference and whether they wish to procreate or not. The ultimate group is so small like a Royal family which did not go that far as the genetic pool gets too restricted. In the past, women were also lobotomised and now they get dementia and live longer. Is everyone looking for a mother substitute to see them? She would not as she is more interested in adults and in her own development. It is well known how religion confused such matters. In the very far future, the "artificial womb" may work but "I" prefer personalised medicine and embryonic stem cells - who owns research by the way? The cold narcissist or the vulnerable and the naive who would though respect the hippocratic oath and the law? (no decision is taken by one person alone but of cpurse there is also lynching). Some suggested such an oath to become part of the technologists' education and some people with strong left hemispheric dominance keep strong morals too. They do not fall into cold utilitarianism but try to think of solutions. Only psychopaths think in such black and white terms or those on the wrong medication. A lot get misdiagnosed. Psychiatry is a mess and psyhologists had invented horrific torture to find out what people are hiding. On a very basic level, there is also a very basic amswer to the question "she/he/they love(s) me, "they" love me not..". One could ask).. So I do really hope you are able to solve the "meta-meta-meta" crisis with the other giants of thought as my generation is asleep or on antidepressants and the others play video games. In this way, we can only ressurect a quantum Hitller, not Jesus. Even babies are trying to escape (miscarriage) but have no such luck now (made in the lab like tomatoes, they are put in incubators to become the "Messiahs" of their parents and carry their cross. Even the psychopaths. With language and reason such things can be negotiated. So babies started talking and speaking in makaton to say they prefer coffee than hot chocolate... Imagine...). I am sure you are able to understand that this is not schizophrenic talk but improvisation and that also requires one to be aware of themselves (sometimes they are only partly aware of course and sometimes they lose control).

[@here_now_I]

Dr. McGilchrist may speculate too much on how consciousness works. I don't think "constant evolving" together with matters is accurate. I am not saying Buddhism is necessarily correct in every aspect. But Buddhism doesn't believe consciousness manifest itself through matters. To some extent, it is exactly the love nature of consciousness that can easily confuse itself in the material world and get addicted, which is the sourse of samsara. His findings on the brains are very educational, but I don't agree with him on some of the views on consciousness.

[@ALavin-en1kr]

They did not bring up vibration, consciousness vibrating, whether free flowing at a higher rate of vibration or frozen in forms at a lower rate of vibration. That would likely be in the realm of physics.

[@DouwedeJong]

hahaha Iain: Help me with a word here. Which word am I looking for. God is ....... Moderator: female Iain: No, I was looking for transcendental. Sooooo. gooood

[@Sokrates1985]

The physiological role of attention is pulsed by ARAS, please investigate. McGilchrist brings imagination, intuition back to science and remains on a humble position. Here many Scientists could borrow from.

[@oliverjamito9902]

My Beautiful what is resistance? Thy LOVE can also be denied! Likewise reason WHY Thy Footstool and HEAVEN ABOVE exist! My Beautiful are ye digital press the button LOVE me and kiss me! My Beautiful keep watch! Even our Beautiful programmers knows Who? How? Aren't ye all IN FRONT! Are ye ALL in front feet resting upon the SEA OF GLASS! While all thy shared Feet resting upon HIS FOOTSTOOL! My Beautiful will say HE ascending and descending upon all clay FEET MIXED WITH IRON resting upon the dry Grounds. Grounded! Sitting upon the Clouds resting upon the NEW Permanent Foundation no one can uproot nor shaken. Likewise many will say WHO is that little Child "i" sitting upon the lowest Seat LASTS? Even to washed all the ACCUSERS FEET TO BE GIVEN NEW FEET! EVEN THOUGH KNOWING CAN BOUND ALL FEET! What is the FINE TUNINGS? Remember Who's sitting in the midst! Soothe Who's resting under the Shade of a WELL ROOTED TREE! The COMFORTER! OR GRIEVE...TO QUAKE! Same measure will be given. Unto all the Who am I commanding judgment and justice? Visitations. Will Receive nor will deny! Keep watch! Time knows commands given from the True Owner! What is many Spirits in front? Chewing all spirituality from all men's own demise, understanding, nor exalting themselves above! Students will say, WHERE ARE YE ALL TRYING TO REACH? Chewing can be kept nor spit out! Students will say can bring back flavor unto all the Who am I without taste! Why students? Once an innocents little Minds God's glory! What is old minds calls themselves Wise? Still thy Once an innocents little Minds God's glory! Why HE chaseth? As ye chaseth Thy Students thy shared I AM. Likewise Thy Students will chaseth all the Who am I in front of thee! Gratitude and Honor! Till time no longer! For tomorrow is not promised! Likewise what is not possible unto men is possible unto Who? Students what is Who? Can't exist without thy shared I AM! Well said!

[@leepretorius4869]

Christian theism is what he wants: 1. Creator-creature distinction 2. Creator-creature relation

[@mellonglass]

Ironic that Ian explained how the brain works, only to be questioned by a dominantly unflexible mind of certainty. Perspective is to discover form, rather than depend on repetition that is dominantly authoritarian. Rebel Wisdom suffered the same authoritarian construct of ‘enterprise’ to provide a good show, without seeing the reason of conversation. (Listening is likely the most difficult conversation to be had) This is not journalism with curiosity, but parasitism for points scored.

[@PhilGribbon]

Not journalism and ၁ÜꝚî☉🜨sĩtý:𝒾;ĐΞ/.\•°T the next step Ξ

[@jankovac1]

The interviewer buzzing in on the questions before each could be answered, was like an annoying buzzing insect. He ruined the flow of the conversation during the question/answer period for me personally.

[@DavidJLevi]

Excellent until he talks about the sacred then it's nonsense.

[@liammccann8763]

Everyone's life would be so much easier if they simply accepted Christ on His Cross, His throne, the very heart of sacrificial love. This applies equally to protestants, who have taken Christ from His Cross.

[@amorris0419]

Interesting…I’m still wondering how we would all “turn out” if there was no written word of God-ism and God-like ways. The part of us which reaches out innately to God, seeking to be spared from suffering, often in a crisis-moment here on Earth…if this part is asked: how would I live in harmony…what way of being do I hold on to each day, even if there is no written religious text…could we all just bring this to life and living while we are here? I say “in harmony” because I don’t walk this earth in solitary means…and for me, the directive answer is kindness. With or without the Biblical teachings I grew up with, I can strive to be kind…to myself and others. It doesn’t require others to believe in God or Christ or anyone. Peace to you and blessings…

[@liammccann8763]

@@amorris0419 I would observe what you propose as being located in the horizontal dimension, it lacks the vertical. When the horizontal is aligned with the vertical, you have...... The Cross. In hoc signo vinces ✝️.

[@amorris0419]

@@liammccann8763 thank you for considering the idea of conquering…I am no longer striving to conquer or fix anything or anyone…each person and their path is seemingly to be honored as valid, even when I can’t comprehend the choices he:she makes…at least for now, my nurturing is in staying in the moment and remembering I’ve never been separate from God. Nothing to fix. No place to get to…thank you though for sharing. Peace to you…

[@liammccann8763]

@@amorris0419 there is much merit in 'being' rather than 'becoming', I am in agreement with this. We Catholics however are part of the 'Body of Christ', privation is a proposition that we have opposed for 2,000 years. Ne Timeas ✝️.

[@MaggyBurrowes]

Although Iain McGilchrist is always worth listening to I do find it disappointing that he persists in referring to the concept of god in sexed language - why is he so happy to remain conventional in this area when he is so innovative in so much of his thinking - what on earth is wrong with 'it'?

[@ednorton47]

Try not to be so narrow-minded.

[@MaggyBurrowes]

Not that surprised that you don’t see it as an issue.

[@AnHebrewChild]

⁠@@MaggyBurrowes Personally, I don't think any living being should be referred to as "it." As I understand it, we are formed in the image of God: we, both male and female. But as it happens, our language only allows for gendered personal pronouns. I suppose using the modern convention of "they" to express the third person singular might be used but some might unjustifiably take this as an endorsement of the Roman conception of trinity. Language has limitations, inherently. Words are discreet tools we use to express continuous realities. There are schools of philosophies built on investigating this. In light of all the wonderful things Iain communicates, I find the stumbling over a single word quite a little nit to pick at.

[@padmeamidalaskywalker343]

It sounds somewhat thingish. What about s/he?

[@sonarbangla8711]

Philosophers like Iain talking about science and matter and consciousness, makes themselves a laughing stock Dan Dennett is known for such funny thoughts like consciousness is magic.

[@michaelricketson1365]

What in the world...

[@sonarbangla8711]

Even scientists can't make sense of science, how can philosophers can't be a laughing stock?@@michaelricketson1365