The Matter With Things, Iain McGilchrist

[@scottjones-singersongwrite6193]

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that Iain McGilchrist is one of the most insightful minds in public discourse to come along in a very long time. If you are reading this, Iain, may I thank you for your inspiring message. Keep up the great work.

[@christheother9088]

I'm in my mid 60's now, and despite years of atheism and skepticism, my mystical experiences eventually became too numerous to ignore. Then the doors opened.

[@MegaSteve1957]

Always been a don't know, now of 64 years & counting but due to a very short near death experience, preceded a few years earlier by what I can only describe as visions after my wife's death - Iain's work is like a growing light in what was once for me an avoided opaque corner.

[@tbuczinsky]

Me too. Looking forward to McGilchrist’s conversation with Rupert Spira on January 30.

[@saransong5547]

@@tbuczinsky do you have a link to it?

[@tbuczinsky]

@@saransong5547 I don’t think they’ve released it yet. When they do, I’ll try to remember to post the link here.

[@saransong5547]

@@tbuczinsky thank you so much! 👍

[@cwfilli]

Iain McGilchrist simply blows me away every time I read his work or listen to him speak. A true master. And hats off to David for conducting the interview so brilliantly.

[@dexterquotidian]

I am halfway through 'The Master and his Emissary' at page 410 - cannot describe how excited i am to learn that Ian's new work is finally out. What a great man, not just as an intellectual but also as a person

[@calfinbro]

I am almost done with the book, in the second to last chapter. It's almost too good to speak of!

[@JayJay-wg5ex]

i agree, he is wonderful

[@cheri238]

I agree ❤

[@jordanalexander]

Iain McGilchrist is just an absolute intellectual blessing - I feel so fortunate every time I hear him speak.

[@LS-qu7yc]

I love Iain McGilchrist so much. I read Master and his Emissary and suddenly the world made so much more sense to me. He is irreplaceable and I would agree, he is up there with the most famous philosophers- even above them because he explains the differing viewpoints. What a gem of a human. So brilliant.

[@katejudson8907]

You might also like Rosi Braidotti. Don't be put off by the titles like transhumanism, which sounds populist. Her theoretical maps are so rich with research across classical and indigenous thinkers and quantum physics as a materialist. I'm trusting my intuition here that you'll like her work. 😉

[@cheri238]

​@@katejudson8907 Thank you.❤

[@segasys1339]

A lot of this is very reminiscent of Michael Polanyi's concept of tacit knowledge. A decade ago I actually had an elderly poli sci professor, Maben Poirier of Concordia University, who gave an undergraduate course on Polanyi's contribution to contemporary epistemology that I just happened to sign up for on what amounted to a whim. At the time it seemed like I had embarked on an obscure, abstract journey into an antiquarian epistemological debate that only handful of people in a tiny class out of a cohort of 15,000 was studying. In time I would come to see it as far and away the best course I have ever taken and that it was a shame so few people were there to share it with us. To see the concepts we studied come back into the fore of sense-making many decades after Polanyi's era is quite nice. This is great stuff, thanks for putting it out there for us.

[@sebastianm8028]

I love the ending and that he didn't say: do this. That is the sign of a man who truly touched the source of wisdom

[@Xtazieyo]

This is the content that made me subscribe 2 years ago!

[@alion242]

I'd second that!

[@chris432t6]

Agreed. Thanks

[@jewelsbypodcasterganesh]

I legitimately don't know where I'd be without this channel. It's introduced me to so many incredible ideas and thinkers. If I ever get a job and move out of my parent's basement I'll donate you my first pay cheque.

[@linuxxxunil]

If I ever get a job or when I get a job? The tongue, lad. The tongue.

[@JamesLumb]

On an Iain McGilchrist binge at the moment so this is perfect timing. A philosopher turned neuroscientist is someone definitely worth paying attention (

[@PromoMIAR]

AND Neuroscientist turned Philospher don't forget ;>

[@xmathmanx]

Primarily a psychiatrist tho

[@katejudson8907]

Have you also heard of the wonderful German psychiatric neuroscientist Gerard Hüther? His paper about ten years ago on how the human brain's empathic mechanics are the source of our intelligences was translated into many languages and.published in English as a short book titled The Compassionate Brain, How Empathy Creates Intelligence. Without drawing on philosophical theoretical traditions he does draw a long bow in putting human brains in the context of the rest of the living world, aka life/ nature.

[@noochynomads1335]

He is channeling the old man archetype. bringing watts and jung into clear view for the lost post modern soul. I love this man and love even more that you interviewed him David!!! so epic. Cheers to this!!!!

[@kbeetles]

Recently received these books - Iain is a real giant of an intellect and a deep sea of human soul. This work will keep me busy and wondering throughout the winter months!

[@rebekkahaas5472]

Thank you and Iain for pouring a sack of diamonds here into this space. Much needed. I hope for this quality thought body to be recognized beyond all limiting believes caused by fear-traps that most humans are stuck in.

[@berg0002]

Amen. It is so beautiful to listen to Ian the way he expresses everything (and no-thing). It is the way I see it, but could not say it in the excellent way he does.

[@justinlaporte9414]

I am deeply thankful these kind of conversations are taking place, open sourced and cultivating during a time of the likes we are experiencing. Amazing interview! Great work Rebel Wisdom!

[@cheri238]

I hold Dr. Iian McGilchrist is close to my heart and his books and lectures and with all who have discussions with him on various subjects. "The world is all around us." We that have this opportunity to grow and to gain more experience of depth of wisdom, one has to be in "awe." With the deepest appreciation and love to all that participates 🌄🌠 sincerely to support these endeavors of consciousness and subconscious of our brains. "I am the world, and the world is me." Krishnamurti with David Bohm, physicist speaking with others and then again, we have Alan Watts. 🙏❤️🌍🕊🎵🎶

[@ChrisMichael]

Cannot thank you enough for introducing me to Iain and his work through this. He is EXACTLY the articulation of what my mind had been roughly trying to sketch out for the last few years. Looking forward to going back and reading all of his books. Thank you, thank you.

[@WhiteStoneName]

Beautiful. God bless, Iain McGilChrist.

[@ts6564]

What an extraordinary thinker. Truly, a brilliant mind. If all of us collectively could apply just 1% of this approach to living, we would be in a much better place. Thank you Iain McGilchrist for writing such an inspirational piece of work.

[@foxdenham]

Wonderful. Feeling enriched, strangely 'less alone' and most definitely humbled. Thank you to you both.

[@user-yp7vf5lo8h]

Hi Someone once said 'I read to not feel alone'.

[@paulwintermute1495]

Okay, so I knew the McGilchrist was brilliant based on his last book but wow... this is on a whole different level. His new work will (and should) change the way we think.

[@fumiemunro1740]

This is great (it’s because I’m born and raised in Japan with Zen flavoured father and Catholic mother). I’m a gardener I learn philosophy from doing gardening. To me, Philosophy is like fertiliser. You can’t plant seeds in fertiliser. It will kill the seed. Fertiliser can’t change what the seed is. And I need bit of pesticides, weeding and watering. I feel bad when I play “god” choosing to pull weeds and let the roses and peonies grow and flourish. I wish I could love weedy garden, but I know I can’t. My dad used to say to my mom. “What a failure God is. Look at his creation how not perfect we are.” My mom understands someone like my dad believes having faults is not really faults. So she always gave a huge gentle smile to him. My dad promised to my mom he would convert to Catholicism after his parents passed away when they got married. He is showing no sign of doing it. I’m sure my dad will do so when he is dying on his bed. That means my mom has to out live my dad😉

[@simcha22]

I’m my pinion This is the most important video and discussion that I have seen ever discussed which such clarity in a public space 🙏

[@sheilaeisele8490]

David, what a wonderful job you did here, enabling Iain's inspiration for and explication of the important theories that gave rise to this book. I'm so impressed with this interview; thank you!

[@spectaxxx]

thank you Sheila

[@RebelWisdom]

(Please note: the audio jumps slightly out of sync from 30:45 to 39:09 then returns to normal) Iain will return to our Digital Campfire for a Q&A with Rebel Wisdom members on Tues 30th November, to join, check out membership options here: rebelwisdom.co.uk/campfire-events Some previous conversations with Iain for if you enjoyed this one: Iain with John Vervaeke: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJWlXnWDmcx5mM0 Certainty & Flow: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHqUn5qnrK1oq9U

[@wayward-saint]

This is extremely similar to the Daoist description of reality. It’s amazing that high level neuroscience and deep meditative insights can converge in so aspects.

[@daminc]

This gentleman clearly deserves more limelight on KZbin ❤

[@tonybaker2968]

One feels like one is present at a great event, a great unveiling and revelation of historical dimensions, and this is made possible as much by intelligent and relevant and immediate questions from David as from the height, depth, and majestic complexity of Iaian's elaborations. I have books I won't live to read, but I will have this great work and read it early in 2022. Thank you Rebel Wisdom for your vey apt midwifery, and Dr McGilchrist, for your devotions.

[@intellectualdarkweb236]

I want to hear a conversation with Ian McGilchrist and Jonathan Pageau! I see not so obvious similarities in their world views

[@yossarian67]

Wow, this whole talk was really amazing. His closing lines are truly awesome.

[@ericT7]

I've read a few good books in my time, and The Matter with Things is the best book I have ever read. 1,001 thanks!

[@nugley]

Thanks, Iain, for being you, and being here, now.

[@julie5978]

Love McGilcheist! Thanks for having him!

[@iainmorley]

Top drawer stuff. Hope to see Iain more regularly! Buying those books 100%

[@davidmiles-hanschell]

Bring on more of the sense of wonder for everyone and an understanding of your brilliant and timely thesis Professor Iain Mc Gilchrist ,which will certainly give me a greater capacity to defend, what I have intuited for most of my life, should I have the good fortune to read and comprehend your two books.

[@12th-House]

I am a fan of Iain McGilchrist and looking forward to the new books cause the big questions are with me every day. Thanks for this interview, excellent!

[@leedufour]

Thanks Iain and David!

[@anthonygarciaguitar]

So brilliant. As a musician this interview is music to my ears!

[@michaeljack6517]

Great interview David. Ian seems incredibly generous and kind. One of very few that sheds light on the many facets of complexity that surrounds us.

[@PromoMIAR]

Such an important work done by such a great Man.

[@danielak4264]

What an extraordinarily illuminating interview. Many thanks for this.

[@BlueEternities]

The worst paradox is how few people are interested in such incredibly important information.

[@RJ-cs9gz]

Yes, I laughed when I saw he had 5k followers compared with a Kardashian of 300 million!

[@herminepursch2470]

People's minds are already made up, what they believe is the truth and what other people believe is a lie

[@David-Anyroad]

the best best best in some time. I will need to listen again a few times. Get the book. But hey... Thanks both if you for such expansive and often surprisingly clear conversation about hard to grasp matters.

[@lucjagrabowska2726]

Ian McGilchrist is one of the greatest intellectual thinkers of our times

[@marinobadurina8446]

Iain McGilchrist is a very wise man. It reminds me of some sort of worldly Albus Dumbledore of our time

[@nataliekazful]

A beautiful mind! A master of dichotomies. 👌🏻

[@peterhaydock7836]

Thank you. Fabulous.

[@KaizenTrainingLtd]

Absolutely brilliant conversation - thank you so much! x

[@ca7582]

This man might be of extraordinary help in taking me out of my existential crisis. I'll read his work

[@louisrangel9877]

I´m currently reading the first volume, and it is as entertaining as dense. Don´t expect to plow through it quickly. It is worth every penny, it is beyond a simple monetary investment, because no other book would explain the current state of affairs as this one . Thanks a lot Dr. McGilchrist.

[@ivonneherrera737]

¡Beautiful enterview! And the deep and complex ideas exposed by Ian MacGilchrist comunicated with clarita and elegance, made this hour and a half, a source of joy for me. ¡Thank You David for such a brilliant enterview! More than compeled to experience (read,reflect, recognize perhaps...) the work of Ian MacGilchrist.

[@AnAlgernon]

I very much look forward to reading the new book. I just finished the Master and Emissary. Thank you gentlemen. 🙏

[@zalacainbilbao]

Thank you for an extraordinary interview. I learnt a lot, and I will buy the book as soon as it comes out in paper back.

[@richardjohnson9534]

You cannot take to heart what McGilchrist is saying and not come away realizing how much trouble we are in. If what he is saying is right. And I believe he is. Then all our solutions. Including to this pandemic have all been completely wrong.

[@reprogrammingmind]

good morning

[@everythingflows3639]

Looking forward to this!

[@reinerwilhelms-tricarico344]

Iain McGilchrist on S. Pinker's over-optimism: "The right hemisphere is our bullshit detector; the left hemisphere is ... full of it". (Copied to my collection of famous citations ;-). But seriously, this interview was extraordinary valuable and enlightening. I listened to it twice and may do it again for taking notes.

[@offcenterconcepthaus]

Outstanding.

[@michaelasharne9107]

Absolutely brilliant, thank you.

[@jerrykindigii]

At 31:04, a black flash appears and video becomes out of sync with audio. It appears to be an error in editing. It lasts until 37:35 and the next edit.

[@alexswainson3110]

Really great interview, very insightful. Many thanks to both of you.

[@vanessadylyn6916]

A truly wonderful interview by David in engaging Iain in his new book. The popular documentary The Divided Brain, a collaboration with Iain, is a good backgrounder on his work.

[@np-undervisning5644]

Excellent stuff! I really like the all-encompassing perspective. Very interesting thoughts - nice to get an almost metaphysical line of thought instead of the more narrow cultural discussions. Great interview! Thanks!

[@chris432t6]

Wonderful talk. Looking forward to reading his books. Thank you RW.

[@davidgreenwood5602]

He is inspirational!

[@TennesseeJed]

Wow! Literally amazing how much must be in this book!

[@TennesseeJed]

Ok, I ordered the damn thing!

[@chriswalth]

1:14:30 “relations are more basic than things“. - Hans-Peter Dürr, physicist and student of Heisenberg, said exactly the same when he talked about the main conclusions in his field of elementary physics.

[@gerri49]

Fantastic ❣

[@LLlap]

The worst atrocities have always been committed in the name of making things better. Not just the last couple hundred years. Always.

[@fionamarques6113]

Paul Levy and Jerry Marzinsky would be great interview and would hugely add to the rich tapestry and cannot be ignored … It’s remembering what we are as a process but not necessarily academic 🙏

[@adempc]

Thank you.

[@TheZGALa]

Thank you both. Much love.

[@davidmiles-hanschell]

A most enlightening interview.

[@fionamarques6113]

Paul Levy s work is another ways of understanding / finding the key to our inner Wisdom/ Higher Self / The Divine connection/ That which Is and can’t be spoken of without leaving something out/ it transcends polarity and intellect has to be strip for further entry…

[@hitaloaquino6477]

What a excelent Interview. Thank you. 🇧🇷🙏🏽 Invite Dr Bernardo Kastrup.

[@brandonvandyck]

Stunning.

[@pocketfullofshellz]

Perfect thank u

[@mcardillo77]

26:00. What’s doing the choosing between hemispheres to determine what’s more valuable?

[@F--B]

René Guénon's 'The Reign of Quantity' is a good precursor to McGilchrist. I'm surprised he wasn't mentioned in the index of 'Master & Emissary' - maybe he'll appear in the new book...

[@_Game_Of_Geopolitocs]

I think that Theory is little bit Similar to the Sankhya Philosophy Which describe the Universal existence as the mixture of two Components First One is Prakriti Which can be understood as Tangible Qwality ( Materialistic Qwality) Second One is Purush Which can be understood as Non-Tangible Qwality ( Consciousness) The Mixture of these two Components is the reason of Existence of the Universe This is Sankhya Philosophy 👍👍

[@Ableseamansainz]

This guy is a powerful force

[@sheilac5319]

This is very helpful. Many thanks!

[@sloegenie]

There is a reason humans have separate, individual experiences of consciousness. The internet and Twitter especially shows us why this is crucial to individual development.

[@mapstoinsight3252]

The emphasis on process & relationship in this awe-inspiring work has profound implications for the academic conundrum of knowledge transfer, particularly high-road or far transfer. There a rare, but rewarding interdisciplinary transfer of knowledge demands the curiosity, creativity & imagination of an agile, embodied mind…one “attending” to an embodied (not disembodied) world.

[@robertnaylor6119]

1:24:03 I have found out in life it seems more important to attentivly point at what not to do v.s. reactionary answers of what to do when we more often than not actually do not know what to do. I hope that made sense.

[@animula6908]

Such a good point about people who were outside the monetary system with no wage.

[@jasonMMorris]

Twice I see the unspeakable, always a pleasure even when watching the uncomfortable movement as the mind touches the realm, I suggest something's remain so far best unsaid when words fade away in explanation, like closed books the mind evolves to a collective higher connection. Show was just excellence, always a pleasure to meet.

[@MonaMarMag]

Mistake is that some of us thinks that they are some kind of Gods when the truth is we are just part of the whole . Like in one of the songs of Scorpions - "We are dust in the wind ..."

[@happydayssunny7830]

Now we're talking 💜🙏

[@brigidpoppke1028]

Iain's emissary truly serves his master….

[@paleblue7462]

Excellent!

[@htkoe3640]

If it is all a GIFT, then there must be a GIVER! Another G word.

[@BlueEternities]

As for the differences between "matter" and "consciousness", I'd say that matter is how consciousness is perceived by one that is individuated from another. When individuation does not occur, there is only the seamless, though clearly more or less understood or controllable aspect of, self.

[@stevebaldwin2374]

Thanks Rebel and Doc. Good interview. I'm getting the book😀

[@Lascts25]

Tolkien was a pro-gestaltist “He who breaks a thing to understand it has left the path of wisdom.”

[@davidmiles-hanschell]

" Creation is also self-creation".Amen.

[@bennguyen1313]

Enjoyed the 1h2m mark on hormesis, hidden assumptions, and how complex issues require nuance thinking, otherwise there are unintended consequences. Would love to hear Steven Pinker's rebuttal to Ian's point.

[@markkonstas1307]

Is it just me or do the audio and video drop out of synch at around 31:00 ??

[@howardbabcom]

The 'profoundly important' which is so hard to address by us, needs to be brought to us. This is, I would suggest, what makes the Judaeo Christian tradition so important, and so different. Revelation is something much deeper than religion, and this history is about the 'profoundly important' becoming evident in our realm. Truth is therefore knowable.

[@peterhardie4151]

This is very good.

[@edwardfosterart3848]

Great interview! I am just about to dive into his new epic tome. Thank you for this content.