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Exclusive Video: Fatal Injury of Mongolian Groom at Breeders’ Cup Race

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@melissawalker3874
@melissawalker3874 4 жыл бұрын
It's time to get rid of the green screens. These magnificent animals do as we ask even when it is unsafe for them. Stop hiding the horrors of horse racing. Let the people in the stands see what their money has done.
@guardiaguardia824
@guardiaguardia824 4 жыл бұрын
Are You calling this great sport a Horror? that's a good joke.
@levijackson6397
@levijackson6397 3 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't demand they show the medical treatment of human racers if they broke their lag during a marathon, would you now? It's simple courtesy in both human and veterinary medical emergencies to give the medical staff and patient privacy and a focused environment to work.
@b0tias
@b0tias 2 жыл бұрын
@@guardiaguardia824 What's great about a bunch of rich people racing drugged up, inbred animals until they break down or are unprofitable and sold for slaughter?
@shanefaulkner8586
@shanefaulkner8586 2 жыл бұрын
@@guardiaguardia824 lol, ignorance is bliss i guess
@stephaniecolson1349
@stephaniecolson1349 Жыл бұрын
Lmmfao
@Ninjamovesbeh
@Ninjamovesbeh 2 жыл бұрын
The horse was clearly still alive in trailer, very much alive
@ChairmanMeowNZ
@ChairmanMeowNZ 4 жыл бұрын
"One person can make a difference and every person should try" - John F. Kennedy.
@elycastro8218
@elycastro8218 3 жыл бұрын
Make a difference for what
@TheTunaMaster
@TheTunaMaster 2 жыл бұрын
i ran horses for years grew up on the track . and have no respect for anyone that knowingly runs a sore horse . this sort of behaviour will ruin horseracing .
@elizabethd8147
@elizabethd8147 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree! There's enough that can go wrong with a horse that's completely sound let alone one that's lame! Shame on them for running him anyway!
@animated1869
@animated1869 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure the rider didn't know their horse was sore? they got off immediately after realizing something had gone wrong
@TGP109
@TGP109 Жыл бұрын
@@elizabethd8147 I think that one way of preventing this would be to refund the entry money to the owners NOT to race the horse. Once someone has spent 30-40-50k just to enter the horse, the impetus to race them rises. Of course, it can be difficult to know if ordinary soreness is a sign of bone weakness or just ordinary wear and tear.
@andrecummings13
@andrecummings13 10 ай бұрын
Who’s crying for the HUMAN babies being KILLED in abortion clinics , which are called slaughter houses ????
@MoniekRedhead
@MoniekRedhead 3 ай бұрын
​@@elizabethd8147 what's the story? Was the horse not sound and they knew it and still let him race?
@DanKlaudt
@DanKlaudt 4 жыл бұрын
Whipping has nothing to do with his fracture or his wanting to continue to run. Pain from a fracture would over ride any affect he whipping would have.
@109367
@109367 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I had to scoff when I read the description of the video, PETA knows nothing apparently. Video has since surfaced of this horse working out on the track a few days before this race and he is lame, the pre-race veterinary exam and his exercise rider are to blame. If I can see he is lame, not being a person in the industry, the trained professionals should have seen it and scratched the horse. The racing board can talk all they want about improved safety measures, stricter drug screenings and exams of the animals, what I have SEEN does not reflect what they have SAID. I saw a lame horse that should have been scratched from the race, who was allowed to run anyways despite being visibly off in that leg, and broke down. No excuse, and I doubt anything will be done. A real shame.
@vwyldrose1153
@vwyldrose1153 4 жыл бұрын
@@109367 nobody cares about geldings. They are worthless after retirement. No stud fees.
@suemich2319
@suemich2319 4 жыл бұрын
@@vwyldrose1153 Yes, and that's why Lava Man still works in his own barn, and Ziconic and Cosmic One were gelded and are now being retrained. Rehoming foundations (like New Vocations) are filled with geldings training for new careers. Ruffian (one of the fastest thoroughbreds ever) was euthanized after her injury - because horses are extremely difficult to rehab as they are prone to laminitis (in itself a killer). That's how Barbaro died - from laminitis - not the initial injury.
@berniv7375
@berniv7375 4 жыл бұрын
@@109367 PETA knows everything about animal cruelty and I thank them for exposing it.
@DanKlaudt
@DanKlaudt 4 жыл бұрын
@@berniv7375 if that is what you believe about PETA. You have not done your homework very well. Spend some time researching PETA, check how many animals they actually save a year vs how many animals are harmed by their political actions.
@aremedyproject9569
@aremedyproject9569 2 жыл бұрын
Wish PETA would end the “big lick” horse shows.
@jenniferbeyer6412
@jenniferbeyer6412 11 ай бұрын
Yes. That is terrible. And cutting the tail off. Makes me sick.
@sophiej9429
@sophiej9429 4 жыл бұрын
I’m horrified that people are laughing and cheering
@Giovaft
@Giovaft 4 жыл бұрын
Sophia-Jayne I am too, I did not laugh at all, it made me go 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠
@LynneDemonQueen1
@LynneDemonQueen1 4 жыл бұрын
Sophia-Jayne ~ the race went on and most of the spectators were paying attention to the race. The cheering did not continue after the race ended. This whole situation with Mongolian Groom was horrifying and heartbreaking.
@mariacase9541
@mariacase9541 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, a lot of people could not see what happened from where they were sitting or standing. It happened at the top of the stretch, which is hard to see from the middle of the track and the finish line with the thousands of people that they had there. Sometimes you are focused on the horse you like and don't see anything else. Many people felt bad afterwards when they learned the news. Stop buying into the propaganda.
@mariacase9541
@mariacase9541 4 жыл бұрын
@@LynneDemonQueen1 Thank you. I was working the BC and had left after the 9th race. I saw the jockey pull up on TV in a restaurant. The volume was turned down, so I didn't find out until later what had happened.
@suzanneyoung8011
@suzanneyoung8011 4 жыл бұрын
@Rachel Haluska OMG please don't be over dramatic. What happened is horrible, but those clapping and cheering are watching the other horses running down the stretch toward the finish line. It was a very exciting race at the finish. Most of the spectators there didn't see what happened. They would not have noticed until the horse ambulance came out on the track. You're seeing this through the lens of one person sitting at the top of the stretch who is focusing on the injury. I watched this on TV and barely saw that there was an injury, and I had to wind it back to watch it again. Someone without a trained eye may not have noticed the bad step at all, because the TV camera followed the frontrunners as they approached the finish line. Also, most of the cheering you hear is acknowledging the winner as he came back to go into the winners circle. Watch NBC's video of the race to see a different view of it.
@amydavis4945
@amydavis4945 4 жыл бұрын
It's sad how proficient they have become at getting the green screens out there as fast as they can...and scooping the poor broken horse up off the track. Wow, under 4 minutes. Now on to the next races so they can breakdown even more beautiful spirits!
@MiSZMARiiE
@MiSZMARiiE 4 жыл бұрын
I rather not want to watch that as much as you clearly do
@amydavis4945
@amydavis4945 4 жыл бұрын
Amberr Mariie Apparently you have never heard of sarcasm. "Now on to the next" CLEARLY meant, it's sad that is how THEY look at it - how it means nothing to them that a beautiful creature has broken down and there will certainly be more to follow and THEIR attitude is: "oh well it's just another breakdown".
@lexibarnes1938
@lexibarnes1938 4 жыл бұрын
out of the things to be angry about PETA is angry at the fact that they whipped him around the turn........ what about the fact that the horse was lame the day before the race and they still had him run. Now that is something to be angry about
@justincase8239
@justincase8239 4 жыл бұрын
They openly whip the horse but then hide the effort to save him?
@penelopelopez8296
@penelopelopez8296 3 жыл бұрын
How that jockey didn’t know that horse was unsound is something I will never comprehend or believe their garbage excuses.
@bigr6298
@bigr6298 2 жыл бұрын
The horse ran sound but was not!!!! Competitive jucis flowing it happens in all athleats. This horse should have never touched the gate
@shanefaulkner8586
@shanefaulkner8586 2 жыл бұрын
@@penelopelopez8296 How is jockey suppose to know if the horse is sound or not. he can only go by what the trainer says
@scottjones5455
@scottjones5455 4 жыл бұрын
Another video I saw clearly shows MG taking a bad step and twisting his ankle just before going into the starting gate. I don't know how he managed to run as far and fast as he did before the break down. He was in the top three coming into the stretch, then tragedy struck. I gave up the races for a long time when Landseer broke down in the Breeders Cup Turf Mile some years back. His breakdown was truly horrible, watching a horse thrashing around on broken legs is a nightmare.
@itsoxide3812
@itsoxide3812 4 жыл бұрын
It’s fun how peta makes an unforced injury seem like a humans fault
@itsoxide3812
@itsoxide3812 4 жыл бұрын
scott jones also they claim its fatal. Did the horse really die from a broken or injured leg?
@susanbondi5324
@susanbondi5324 4 жыл бұрын
blame the greedy owner and trainer,both should be given the boot out of this country!
@mikaelafox6106
@mikaelafox6106 4 жыл бұрын
ItsOxide Sadly yes he was euthanized. Horses have limited blood flow in their legs and that’s why it can be so hard to save them from a broken leg.
@laurenmichelle4007
@laurenmichelle4007 4 жыл бұрын
He was lame before the race
@vitabcdefghijklmno
@vitabcdefghijklmno Жыл бұрын
This madness will go on for another century, or more. RIP humanity.
@TR-vr5pz
@TR-vr5pz 11 ай бұрын
and azzholes like you will keep commenting
@cfoxYOU
@cfoxYOU 3 жыл бұрын
It's important to hide the things you don't want people to see.
@EscoWanders
@EscoWanders 2 жыл бұрын
So you’re telling me, when a horse is injured, they kill them by being euthanized ??
@karenbaker9255
@karenbaker9255 Жыл бұрын
Horses are not finished growing until at least age 5, often until 7. Therefore, when they are raced at age 2, their bones are still soft, and of course are prone to breaking down under the stress of training and racing. Horses have no muscle and a poorly designed circulatory system below the knees. They move their lower legs and feet with a system of tough tendons and ligaments with attachments to strong muscles in their shoulders. If they suffer a severe cut, hoof injury, or broken bone to their legs, IF the injury heals, it will take a long time, and need a lot of veterinary coddling. Since horses have thin legs with very light weight bones, they aren’t well designed to survive on three legs, even temporarily. When the horse’s weight is shared by only 3 legs, inflammation often develops in at least one hoof, known as laminitis. Laminitis is agony for a horse, as well as being hard to cure. And chances are, if a horse is bearing most of its weight on 3 legs, one of which has laminitis, it will develop laminitis in another hoof. It will cause the horse so much suffering, it will be the laminitis that causes it to be euthanized, not the original injury, to put it out of its agony. Racehorses are horribly inbred. There has been no new blood introduced to the breed in over 300 years. Therefore, the same horses appear in pedigrees, as grandfather, uncle, cousin, over and over. This has caused undesirable traits that were once rare, to become more prevalent. Birth defects, joint weakness, eye, respiratory and cardiac problems are some of the bad hereditary traits seen, more and more. Thoroughbred racehorses ALL are another year older on January 1. It doesn’t matter if a horse was born in January or July, on January 1, those horses are another year older. So, a horse who is actually 2 years and 7 months could be racing against a horse who is physically just 2. Horses in training are taken by trainers to be in pain ( and they usually are), which is why they get doses of NSAIDS every day, often on empty stomachs. NSAIDS on an empty stomach WILL cause ulcers. Dead horses have been found to have 50 or more stomach ulcers. There’s so much more in the way racehorses are raised, trained, and kept, that leads them to being fragile, easily broken, often neurotic animals leading lives very different from what nature designed them to lead.
@joserangel2299
@joserangel2299 Жыл бұрын
What the common casual person doesn't know, is this could happen to a horse on a farm out in the middle of a range. In fact, it's more probable to happen there due to uneven grounds than on a race track.
@konnorgrimek9980
@konnorgrimek9980 9 ай бұрын
Not true at all. Inbreeding and PED use man. But sure go uneven ground lol
@Tide1723
@Tide1723 4 жыл бұрын
Ya'll put Vick in prison for dogs, these people kill horses and you turn your head.
@Makado14
@Makado14 4 жыл бұрын
Vick got off too easy, in my opinion. Should have hung him up like he did some of the dogs.
@tracyhaupt9031
@tracyhaupt9031 2 жыл бұрын
Why hide it? You don't close your eyes if you're at a bullfight. C'mon rich people. You love the carnage!
@ezragonzalez8936
@ezragonzalez8936 2 жыл бұрын
My dad worked on this track 32years making sure the track was clear of holes from previous race. There were maybe 2 fatal accidents a year nothing like today its the artificial turf! Also take in consideration a race horse hind leg bones are no thicker than a mans yet Weigh 1700 lbs!
@emilianoavalos6190
@emilianoavalos6190 4 жыл бұрын
The reason they had to put Mongolian Groom down is because when a horse breaks its leg its very hard for the bone to heal back correctly, also keeping a horse still for a long time when healing is a huge risk, that’s why Barbo also had to be put down when they tried healing his leg.
@georgiagonzales3769
@georgiagonzales3769 4 жыл бұрын
Anybody knows the reason and how, but why put the horse in that position in the first place..😭😡 it's always about money and entertainment.. never about the horse. 😩
@suzanneyoung8011
@suzanneyoung8011 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgiagonzales3769 you were doing good till you got to your second sentence. Anyone who generalizes - "it's always" or "never about" - truly has no clue what you are talking about.
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 жыл бұрын
Hardly the reason they put them down is to collect on the Insurance Policies. I do not even think rehab would be a covered event. More cost effective to simply put them down.
@mequestrian8017
@mequestrian8017 4 жыл бұрын
Dude when is this gonna stop is 26+ horses dying every week and only 36 out of 4000 racehorses go to retirement home and the rest to slaughter is that not enough to shut this sport down ? Like cmon this needs to stop ! DISGUSTING please god shut this sport down
@peta
@peta 4 жыл бұрын
The district attorney needs to take these deaths seriously and release the findings of the investigation! Too many lives are at stake 😢
@khamot
@khamot 4 жыл бұрын
Since the historic times horse breakdown. In Greece, Rome, Genghis Khan, Conquistador times, Wild west, US Calvary horses break. Nobody wants this to happen but it is part of nature. If you do own a farm, you do not have idea what could happen. I have a farm with horses and cows. Sometimes we find animals with broken legs in the grasslands, sometimes got stucks in mud holes, sometimes animals crash against poles, trees, sometimes animals starts to fight and one get fatally hurt, etc. My animals are free to grass and sometimes we finds them dead by snake bites, eaten by wild animals, heart attacks or just dead without any reason, it is nature. Sometimes horses start to run by itself and broke down.
@susanbondi5324
@susanbondi5324 4 жыл бұрын
this is too many though
@khamot
@khamot 4 жыл бұрын
@@susanbondi5324 If you look the video Mongolian Groom was running fine and suddenly his legs broke. It is an accident. In the agrobusiness sometimes everything is fine, then in another season everything goes wrong....flooding, drought, many animals died, diseases (a couple a months agos I lose over 80 chicken and ducks due to new castle virus, first time hit my farm.) etc, etc.
@suzanneyoung8011
@suzanneyoung8011 4 жыл бұрын
@@susanbondi5324 No, you're led to believe that it's too many by the media and PETA who do not accurately report the facts and report things in a biased way to serve their agenda The actual number of horse fatalities due to breakdowns is statistically very very low. The total number this year at Santa Anita is consistent with the same number for the time period in 2018.
@oldschoolwally6057
@oldschoolwally6057 4 жыл бұрын
excellent reply cesar......but, sadly, how do you sell this to the average tv watching misinformed animal activist. unfortunately to just put up the green screen on the track and dont show it on tv is the only way. remember streakers on tv. it stopped because the networks just realized, dont show it and people won't react to it. streakers stopped but horse racing will go on. these animals are doing what they have been bred to do and when nature breaks them down they are humanely put down instead of suffering as you pointed out for who knows how long. to deny them to run would be animal cruelty. Why is it that we have less concern about the jockey's riding these animals. they will of course, refuse to ride an animal that they feel is unsafe for the sake of the animal and themselves but when a horse breaks down suddenly in the middle of a race the majority of the sympathy seems to go to the horse. I have seen this happen at a track and feel sad at the time but realize that this is part of the sport and am concerned first about the condition of the rider and then the horse but move on to the next race. the concern and monetary support should primarily go to organizations supporting the help and rehabilitation of the jockey's injured doing what they do every day. To stop enjoying the reason we go to the racetrack would be no different then leaving a football game because a player gets carted off the field due to a broken leg. the game goes on. i cant imagine the feelings going through the owners and trainers and grooms and everyone that worked with this unfortunate horse when it is put down but they move on knowing this animal was well taken care of and at it's time of suffering was treated properly. it is as if they have lost a loved one or a best friend. but they move on knowing that this is, as you brought to our attention, the norm. there was more than one occasion where i had to take an old and suffering family pet to the vet to have it put out of it's suffering because my parents could not bring themselves to do it, even though they new it was the right thing to do. there is and always will be the necessity to strictly govern the sport of horse racing to make sure that it is guided by and follows the safety standards of any and all legitimate sports, with in this case, the safety of both the human and animal participants. Do not feel sorry for them, enjoy the fact that they live and die doing what they must do and will do, with all there heart. it is the sport that combines the human and animal kingdom together and goes so far back in history that it will not or should not be stopped. We bred them, let them run.
@melmoon8412
@melmoon8412 2 жыл бұрын
Green screen is the dumbest idea.
@crunchymms
@crunchymms 4 жыл бұрын
how is this place still open?
@DerbyBandit
@DerbyBandit 3 жыл бұрын
Dammmm that hurts watching this 🥲 that horse had a legit shot at winning. I loved that kid and seeing this sucks. Just now seeing this almost 2 years later 😔😔😔😔
@DinoRomano
@DinoRomano 4 жыл бұрын
I have loved and watched horse racing for over 50 years. NO LONGER ! I REFUSE TO WATCH OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS ORGANIZED VIOLENCE ONE MORE DAY. I am disgusted with both trainers and the governing authorities that have allowed this senseless destruction of innocent life to continue without regulating DRUGS and TRAINING techniques that KILL these gentle giants EVERY DAY ! ! ! ! ! Thank you PETA for posting this.
@alize8cesar4
@alize8cesar4 Жыл бұрын
I'll see you at the track Saturday
@dreamtoreality9892
@dreamtoreality9892 Жыл бұрын
I still can not believe they don't think this whipping is abuse. If we did this to a dog , a cat , any other animals on a farm or whatever We would most certainly be arrested for animal cruelty and abuse and our animals would be removed from our care and taken to animal shelter for examination and case building on us. Why is this aloud in racing? Double standards and straight Bull Sh&+ . Let the horses run natural and you will see who is naturally good.
@leesog3203
@leesog3203 Жыл бұрын
Whipping doesn't harm them. These animals are 15x stronger than a human. But you think a soft pro cush is going to harm them? It's just the perception of the whip that is the problem.
@jessicab3195
@jessicab3195 4 жыл бұрын
The people who want to end horse racing are really clueless. This is a very important part of the economy. The jobs, the local economy would suffer, not to mention the fact that horses are well taken care of. No one wants these things to happen, but they do... Shame on PETA for not getting the entire story, they focus on the bad and that is all.
@Ladypurr
@Ladypurr 4 жыл бұрын
PETA is getting the entire story. Here it is in all its gruesome glory. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGWydmmPpd2hbtk
@brothertaro2008
@brothertaro2008 4 жыл бұрын
37 horses have died at this one racetrack just this year. Saying "no one wants these things to happen" when they just keep happening doesn't help anything. Things need to change so that horses receive adequate protection.
@Laura-nx5cl
@Laura-nx5cl 4 жыл бұрын
@@brothertaro2008 You really don't know what all went on during Breeders' Cup week do you? The strictest of strict regulations were put into place. The regulations Santa Anita as rolled out are commendable and the strictest in the nation, they truly have set the bar incredibly high for how all tracts need to be.
@brothertaro2008
@brothertaro2008 4 жыл бұрын
@@Laura-nx5cl If that's the case, why are so many horses dying?
@Laura-nx5cl
@Laura-nx5cl 4 жыл бұрын
Allan Burns looking at Mongolian Groom’s pedigree in depth, he is inbreed 6 times. Raise A Native and Native Dancer appears twice in his immediate pedigree, both were extremely fast but had terrible soundness. Mineshaft appears in his pedigree and Mineshaft retired due to injury. Breeding unsound horses will sadly equal this disaster :/
@gangass100
@gangass100 4 жыл бұрын
My heart is breaking!!
@Ella-qx3gi
@Ella-qx3gi 3 жыл бұрын
@Protocols of Zion yeah but this isn't the wild
@Sapphire771
@Sapphire771 10 ай бұрын
The reality of horse racing both flat and harness
@rachelmorris1643
@rachelmorris1643 4 жыл бұрын
Stop hiding the horrors of racing young horses with the green screens
@stoneycreekranchchronicles4854
@stoneycreekranchchronicles4854 4 жыл бұрын
This isn't cruel to put a horse down.... a horse simply can not stand on 3 legs, their legs aren't meant to support such weight on on leg let alone 3. You are talking about a 1,000 pound animal. A horse running at 35 mph and at any one time one leg, one tiny ankle is bearing all that weight, an injury is inevitable
@penelopelopez8296
@penelopelopez8296 3 жыл бұрын
And still. NOBODY held accountable for allowing an injured, unsound horse to run. If money doesn’t rule everything in life…..prove me wrong. What if he had gone down and the jockey was killed? Oh then they may have done something about it. Horse racing is the most disgusting sport on earth.
@bachtran5533
@bachtran5533 4 жыл бұрын
Animals are the innocent of this CRUEL WORLD.. 😭😭💔🙏
@frankiemorgan2072
@frankiemorgan2072 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t know nothing about this game about ???
@frankiemorgan2072
@frankiemorgan2072 4 жыл бұрын
HungryTv13 thoghbread racing is on 1939 Oldest sport live before as you born. Just move on and don’t watch if you don’t like it
@monicap1717
@monicap1717 4 жыл бұрын
The track should not be causing horses to step down into the dirt material and causing horses to "Twist an Ankle" ever....
@Nicole-qc5dh
@Nicole-qc5dh 4 жыл бұрын
This wasn't a twisted ankle. These horse's start running at 2 and 3 years old, they don't stop growing and joints don't close till 4 or 5. The "took a bad step" line in racing is utter BS. They want you to believe that because it's damaging to the sport if you know the real reasons. "Took a bad step" just sounds so much nicer.
@monicap1717
@monicap1717 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nicole-qc5dh article stated he twisted an ankle before he entered the starting gate. Shouldnt ever happen. Track has an issue. MG was stiff "warming up" his entire life.
@Laura-nx5cl
@Laura-nx5cl 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nicole-qc5dh Thoroughbreds mature at a much faster rate than other breeds. Multiple studies done on horses who race earlier have a significantly less chance of breaking down than if they started later in life. The horse clearly took a bad step.
@Laura-nx5cl
@Laura-nx5cl 4 жыл бұрын
So you've never taken a bad step before? That's exactly what happened to MG and the tape clearly shows it.
@Nicole-qc5dh
@Nicole-qc5dh 4 жыл бұрын
@@Laura-nx5cl That's BS. Thoroughbreds do NOT mature faster than other horses. Where did you even get that idea? Their bones do not stop growing and their growth plates do not fuse until they are 4-5 years old! If you really think it's ok to start these horses at 18 months and have them racing by 2 years old, then you either know nothing about horses and their anatomy, or you're ok with animal abuse. Just because.throughbreds manage to make it off the track, doesn't mean many of them don't suffer the physical and mental repercussions for the rest of their lives. Don't lecture me about thoroughbreds or the racing industry. You can't tell me anything I don't already know, I've spent years cleaning up the messes that racing 2 year old's creates.
@singlecell2498
@singlecell2498 4 жыл бұрын
Horse racing should not be banned it just needs stricter rules and regulations.
@Skylark1007
@Skylark1007 4 жыл бұрын
How exactly? What kind of rules? Why not stop the cruelty altogether?
@EarthPoets
@EarthPoets 4 жыл бұрын
@single cell All horses who don't make the grade get murdered. Almost every horse who becomes no longer profitable, as they all do, gets murdered. The reason Mongolian Groom was murdered was because it would have cost more to look after him than he would earn for his 'owners'. Why shouldn't horse racing be banned?
@pgrothschild
@pgrothschild 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, the strictest rule they could enforce is banning it completely.
@Cassolelvr
@Cassolelvr 4 жыл бұрын
@@Skylark1007 Starting them at a later age would help, when they're more developed bone wise. What most of these people don't understand is that these horses do in fact LOVE to run. It's in their blood and I've seen it first hand. If you don't know all the facts about something, you can't claim to know it's cruel.
@mariacase9541
@mariacase9541 4 жыл бұрын
@@EarthPoets Murdered? Um, no, they are not murdered. You are making a ton of assumptions here. The horse was euthanized. The vet made that decision. Horses bones do not heal like human bones. Sometimes surgery can be performed to save the horse. In many times, it cannot.
@j-man699
@j-man699 4 жыл бұрын
PETA when are you going to listen to me and do something about this? This is 100% about giving non-horsemen a license to train!!! The industry is FULL of pretenders! Make a horseman's class mandatory!!!
@peta
@peta 4 жыл бұрын
Animals are not ours to use for entertainment in the end. They do not deserve to be exploited for profit.
@angiecarr3765
@angiecarr3765 4 жыл бұрын
Stupid mindless crowd!!! Poor sweet horse😭😭😭
@ellenriddle6697
@ellenriddle6697 4 жыл бұрын
Angelica Carrillo the crowd didnt know what was happening with Mongolian they were busy looking at the winner
@angiecarr3765
@angiecarr3765 4 жыл бұрын
The crowd shouldn’t support such a cruel money making pastime, at the horses expense!
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 жыл бұрын
@@angiecarr3765 as well as eating Hot Dogs and Wings while betting on Horses. Poor little chickens gave their all so some glutton could gorge themselves while watching a horse breakdown.
@Bongaboi151
@Bongaboi151 4 жыл бұрын
@@johndough23 They had their purpose. Get over it.
@Bongaboi151
@Bongaboi151 4 жыл бұрын
@@angiecarr3765 Let them do what they want.
@MsWildegirl
@MsWildegirl 4 жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking. Having to hide what's going on says it all. :(
@robertblock4032
@robertblock4032 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah just like any other accident in sports. Do you see cameras glaring at the person with the injury ? They all block viewers from seeing.
@mariacase9541
@mariacase9541 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Robert! It's called respect. People don't seem to understand it anymore. They like seeing graphic images of humans and animals suffering, apparently.
@lottiestanley7696
@lottiestanley7696 4 жыл бұрын
Nancy Muldoon - It also protects the horse from everything going on around it, and can help calm it.
@TR-vr5pz
@TR-vr5pz 11 ай бұрын
Love how clueless people like yourself comment on this - did you want to see the horses injured leg dangling? Youre a sad person
@EarthPoets
@EarthPoets 4 жыл бұрын
Ban horse racing altogether. See *The Tragedy of Horse Racing - Fred's Story* here on YT .
@moohican
@moohican 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah nice work bro. Horses are beautiful. Stop the killing.
@EarthPoets
@EarthPoets 4 жыл бұрын
@Tom Jones It must be difficult for you going through life with such a low level of intelligence so I'll keep it as simple for you as I can. 1) Humans are animals 2) Boxers and martial artists are willing participants. If they were not then I would be calling for the sports to be banned 3) Boxers and martial artists are not considered property and are therefore free to live as they wish 4) Boxers and martial artists do not get murdered if they don't make the grade 5) Boxers and martial artists do not get murdered if they sustain an injury which means they are unlikely to be able to create any future wealth 6) Boxers and martial artists do not get manually jacked off against their will to produce semen with which to forcibly impregnate females 7) Boxers and martial artists do not get murdered once their careers are over
@EarthPoets
@EarthPoets 4 жыл бұрын
@Tom Jones The 'pet' trade is a multi billion dollar death trade in which millions, if not billions worldwide, of baby and wild caught animals are sold to unthinking people many of who dump them once they have had their fun and realise that caring for an adult animal can be time-consuming, expensive and difficult. Many animals end up in overcrowded shelters where they are reluctantly killed if no suitable home can be found for them quickly. The vast majority of those who are not taken from the wild will have been raised in conditions akin to factory farming and as a result will suffer from disease and problems associated with inbreeding. Puppy mill dogs, or example, may never leave the darkened pens where they are impregnated multiple times a year only to then have their pups stolen from them. Like all animals used for breeding, once their yield drops below a certain level they become unprofitable and are killed. It is thought that up to 98% of pups sold in the US are from puppy mills, however this is a worldwide problem. As with horse racing, anyone who supports the 'pet' trade supports the unjustified murder of animals for profit.
@EarthPoets
@EarthPoets 4 жыл бұрын
@Tom Jones _'nut jobs'_ Ok then smarty pants, how about you use that massive _'intellect'_ of yours and explain to everyone how being against the exploitation, enslavement and murder of animals makes someone a 'nut job'. _'both sides of an argument'_ Here are _'both sides of an argument'_ 1) We abuse and profit from animals because we can and it's ok to do so. 2) No it's not ok. Now you have seen them both, how about explaining why it is ok to abuse and profit from animals? _'How about polo? I'm sure horses get hurt there'_ Indeed they do, and those who don't make the grade get mudered, and those no longer deemed to be of any use also get murdered. The unessential exploitation and murder of any animal is wrong. What is it about a horse that if present in you would make it ok to abuse and exploit you?
@TraceySatan
@TraceySatan 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomjones4203 No let's not ban the people sports where people have a choice & are aware of the risks. Let's just ban the ones for animals, where the animal does not have a say so in the risks or are even aware.
@dillingersam588
@dillingersam588 4 жыл бұрын
After suffering a fatal injury at the Breeders' Cup Classic, a green screen was rushed onto the track to block Mongolian Groom from the view of fans and TV viewers. (Mark J
@erichodges6066
@erichodges6066 3 жыл бұрын
How get injured
@gillcook1
@gillcook1 4 жыл бұрын
People should be made to watch what happens to these beautiful creatures for their entertainment..........
@robertblock4032
@robertblock4032 4 жыл бұрын
Thoroughbreds are breed to run. You should stop trying to end their breed.
@suzanneyoung8011
@suzanneyoung8011 4 жыл бұрын
@AKsleepygirl you think it's only for the rich? Wow, you really are clueless. Besides racing, thoroughbreds are used for many other sporting and riding disciplines. They're the most athletic breed of horse and have been used to develop or improve almost every light horse breed in existence in the world today. Without thoroughbreds, there would be no Quarter Horse, Morgan, Tennessee Walker, all the various warmblood breeds and many others.
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 жыл бұрын
yes slaughterhouses should have glass windows and be required to be on main streets.
@robertsims9791
@robertsims9791 2 жыл бұрын
Why is this injury fatal? Do they mean fatal or career ending for the horse or are they going to put him down?
@soniablades7031
@soniablades7031 11 ай бұрын
You know I don’t care what sport you’re in, if it has to do with a horse the number one rule is to pay attention to what your horse is trying to tell you! This could’ve been avoided. You don’t just have a perfect horse that breaks down one day, that shit takes time. If something is wrong; scratch! Fuck the money, fuck the purse, don’t medicate your horse so he can run one last time, save the animal!!
@wecouldlaugh
@wecouldlaugh 4 жыл бұрын
People ought to see what goes on behind the curtain, but 'What if people don't like it; they may not buy what we're selling?'
@mariacase9541
@mariacase9541 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sick? The curtain is out of respect for the horse and for the connections. They do it at sporting events when athletes get severely injured or killed. If you want to know what goes on behind the curtain, become a veternarian or EMT. They will tell you that it's not an easy job.
@wecouldlaugh
@wecouldlaugh 4 жыл бұрын
@@mariacase9541 It would take someone 'sick' indeed to not see that something is deeply wrong with a 'sporting' event which has resulted in the deaths of 37 animals in the last year at Santa Anita alone. The curtain is used to cover up, not out of any respect for the horse. If they did respect the animals, they wouldn't force them beyond their limits.
@db.590
@db.590 Жыл бұрын
A legit question is why do some jocks ride up the horse actively getting put down doesnt that traumatize the horse they are on. I know its years later but
@RealLifeFinance
@RealLifeFinance 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this footage. What a sad moment for all involved. As a former groom and race trainer assistant I knowthe deep sadness and grief that comes with something like this. So sad the horse could not be saved.
@anhmytran5574
@anhmytran5574 4 жыл бұрын
The horse could not be saved for racing. It can be saved to live. Please, do not have a misleading statement.
@wendygibson7888
@wendygibson7888 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't put him in that position in the 1st place
@Makado14
@Makado14 2 жыл бұрын
The horse could have been saved, he should have been scratched by the track vets.
@KatyLilly
@KatyLilly Жыл бұрын
😢😢😢 RIP beautiful! x
@loupalmer2001
@loupalmer2001 Жыл бұрын
@@anhmytran5574 so you’d rather have a horse that would be stood in a stable in pain
@toastnstuff1996
@toastnstuff1996 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf??? Whatever the injury was didnt seem like they needed to be put down for it!! Theyre leg wasnt obviously broken and hanging if you put in the time im sure you couldve nursed them back to health, race horse owners so quick to put an animal down if it doesn't bring in profit, thats a life
@susanbondi5324
@susanbondi5324 4 жыл бұрын
You probably,don't, but,I would sure as he'll try,unless there was so much pain,people have saved them,few yes, but some,maybe the ones that did get saved were the ones who didn't have the big insurance pay outs on them, this guy that owned him seems like a money hungry sob to me probably not a tear in his eye
@Laura-nx5cl
@Laura-nx5cl 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, how amazing of you to assume awful things about people you know nothing about! Mongolian Groom's connections truly loved that horse. If you watch any coverage of the Breeders' Cup (which I can very clearly assume you did not)a segment was done on Mongolian Groom's connections and you can tell how much that horse meant to them. They believed in that horse so much, they personally paid the $200,000 supplemental fee to get him in that race (very money hungry clearly). Those owner have bought thoroughbreds from my uncle several times and every month, he gets photographs of the horses and various updates about them. But yeah, clearly they didn't love that horse.
@debbieriley2347
@debbieriley2347 4 жыл бұрын
It's nice to have people to talk to about horses I've always loved horses it's nice to get answers so I know somebody's out there someone is out there
@zzaacchh
@zzaacchh 2 жыл бұрын
what?
@gerrycoleman7290
@gerrycoleman7290 2 жыл бұрын
Horse racing is horse abuse. If you consider horse racing acceptable, then you have ego and selfish and soulless issues.
@MsCharlieBrown78
@MsCharlieBrown78 Жыл бұрын
Poor baby. These animals don't need to be euthanised. Just take them to a horses home and let them live out their days without having to race. The laughing in the audience has pissed me off.
@kingofthebeast4024
@kingofthebeast4024 3 жыл бұрын
The curtain btw is so the horse doesn’t get scared
@royaumeuni5730
@royaumeuni5730 4 жыл бұрын
MG had two fractures: his left-hind pastern and lower left-hind cannon bone.
@hermesgonzalez5249
@hermesgonzalez5249 4 жыл бұрын
So did that cause the main artery to tear and bleed to death or cause of the injury it was put down so it wouldn't suffer the agony??
@Makado14
@Makado14 4 жыл бұрын
@@hermesgonzalez5249 no, it's because he had two complete breaks on his left hind leg, it was dangling in the air. We don't have the technology yet to save a horse who has an injury that severe to a leg, due to the fact that horses must be able to stand up most hours of the day, if they lay down for extended periods of time their internal organs start shutting down from the weight of the horse, and if they stand long periods of time on three legs, they begin to develop laminitis and other serious problems with their good legs. And they are basically left without a leg to stand on, and I'm not trying to be funny.
@MrBangbangjim
@MrBangbangjim 4 жыл бұрын
Did anyone see the video of MG before the race, obviously favoring that leg? I did. No doubt.
@craigconley1872
@craigconley1872 4 жыл бұрын
Then why was he not scratched. I watch racing everyday, and NBC said there was what 14 vets at the track this day. So your saying 14 vets did not do there job........Its the track surface is the problem.
@MrBangbangjim
@MrBangbangjim 4 жыл бұрын
@@craigconley1872 That's the big debate/question everyone's asking themselves. So have you seen the video of the horse before the race? A very obvious favoring of the leg. If it were track surface more horses would be affected. Watch the video.
@craigconley1872
@craigconley1872 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrBangbangjim Since March its been 35 plus breakdowns
@royaumeuni5730
@royaumeuni5730 4 жыл бұрын
It seemed clear before the race that MG was irritated related to his left hind leg. Easy to say so afterwards though. Probably an incipient stress fracture. If not here, it would have happened later. Horses have weak legs in relation to their body.
@k_obriend2118
@k_obriend2118 4 жыл бұрын
Craig Conley how is it the surface if horses been running on it for decades....this was just an unfortunate event that occurred
@bigr6298
@bigr6298 2 жыл бұрын
I watched film of this horse during workouts, I do not know how he was allowed to race. Horses love to run and please peapole! Never take that away from them but we do need to do are best at making sure the anamil is healthy and happy
@SpursFanCanada
@SpursFanCanada 4 жыл бұрын
48,000 people viewed this,sick bastards.
@pauljohnson4786
@pauljohnson4786 4 жыл бұрын
This has been happening since the 70's and before. The last major match race in the US was Foolish Pleasure against Ruffian and we all know how that ended. Horses are not physically or mentally mature until around five. Even with improved bloodlines and stronger bone, two and three year olds are too young to be blasting over a hard track at 40mph. Even older horses are being over worked which is what happened here. Track surfaces are also an issue for the speeds being reached by thousand pound animals and the standard dirt surfaces need to be phased out.
@cd-jimenez3279
@cd-jimenez3279 4 жыл бұрын
Subjective your statement
@pauljohnson4786
@pauljohnson4786 4 жыл бұрын
Take your pre adolescent child and apply for the Olympics; any good vet who doesn't make a living on the backside will tell you the same thing. Knees close at around that age as well as bones becoming less fragile.
@goforwand31
@goforwand31 4 жыл бұрын
@@pauljohnson4786 It has been proven through research and years worth of studies that racing at 2 helps solidify the bones. By not racing at 2, it creates more physical problems. Case in point, of the 37 horses who died at Santa Anita this year, 32 of them never raced at 2. Racing at 2 makes them stronger, not weaker.
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 жыл бұрын
Older horses breakdown more than younger ones do. That's why you rarely see any older than 8
@stormiesimmons9677
@stormiesimmons9677 4 жыл бұрын
@@goforwand31 bull crap
@whiteboyslim5906
@whiteboyslim5906 4 жыл бұрын
How come stuff like this never happened back in the day when Champions like Secretariat Affirmed Seattle slew spectacular bid etc....these horses could run all day...Maybe it’s the breeding and the drugs that’s making these horses break down because it didn’t happen back in the 70s-80s or Prior to that.
@taylorjanus136
@taylorjanus136 4 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert, but when you have so much inbreeding within a breed, unfavorable mutations happen...including fine leg bones and malformations. With the studbook being so closed in the thoroughbred breed, almost all horses are bound to have multiple repeats within a few generations. There's one line that you see in almost every pedigree both top and bottom. I think owners and trainers need to stop looking at horses like they are machines and treat them like the living, breathing creatures they are.
@Prole-gj5kq
@Prole-gj5kq 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it happened all the time and you just never heard about it without social media? That would be my guess
@FancySassy80
@FancySassy80 4 жыл бұрын
Cause they weren't running babies back then.
@countalucard4226
@countalucard4226 4 жыл бұрын
They breed nothing but “speed to speed” today making for horses with more skinnier ankles which are more vulnerable. They want quick returns on investments today and this type of breeding gets them to the winners circle a lot faster than the way they used to breed them. Used to be breed a horse that could win at a mile with a horse that could go a distance.
@joseolguin6505
@joseolguin6505 4 жыл бұрын
FancySassy80 they were, how do you think they qualified for the Kentucky derby? They ran as two year olds.
@jennyclark6183
@jennyclark6183 4 жыл бұрын
The reason that so many horses die is not the track, or the condition of the track. It is because they run them so hard that they bleed into their lungs. They just run them too hard. The whole thing should be outlawed.
@f.marshall8268
@f.marshall8268 4 жыл бұрын
Tears came to my eyes just watching this. Sigh !!!
@hrsnrnd10
@hrsnrnd10 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the horse was able to load in the trailer. Likely he has broken something and likely putting him down was the right thing to do. They need to get ride of the green partitions and let EVERYONE see what is really going on. This will make it stick in peoples minds.
@LifeisA_Dream
@LifeisA_Dream 4 жыл бұрын
Yes changes need to be made for safety. The BC should have never gone back to Santa Anita with their unsafe surface this year. That said none of these horses would even be alive in the first place if it wasn't for racing. Are you going to adopt them and pay thousands every month for their care? No? Then they would all have to be euthanized anyway just like they do in shelters with unwanted dogs and cats. Most of the people in the industry love and care for these animals immensely! And this is what these animals were bred to do and they thrive on running! You can't just keep them cooped up in their stalls they can injure themselves even worse that way!
@empire9639
@empire9639 4 жыл бұрын
I agree! I do think that the track needs to be reconstructed or shut down. 37 horses is too much. We all know accidents happen and they happen everywhere at anytime. But when there are 37 horses dead at one track, something needs to be done about that track.
@wsdareme
@wsdareme 4 жыл бұрын
@@empire9639 The track WAS shut down AND reconstructed. And quite a few safety procedures implemented. They've had far few breakdowns since it reopened. But PETA and the media aren't interested in telling you about that -- just the breakdowns prior to all the improvements. Do your research.
@Laura-nx5cl
@Laura-nx5cl 4 жыл бұрын
@@wsdareme FINALLY! someone in this comment section who has common sense and isn't blindly making comments about a sport they know nothing about.
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 жыл бұрын
There are several posts on this thread saying the horse was lame well before last Sunday...nobody said jack about it. I would argue MG has been lame (deformed) for years and has simply avoided catastrophe til Sunday. Nobody said jack about it. The Track is totally LYING when they say they are doing everything they can, BS to that.
@Laura-nx5cl
@Laura-nx5cl 4 жыл бұрын
S Brown I posted this on another thread but I researched his pedigree and I believe he was inbreed a total of 6 times, two of the horses that he was inbreed to were very well known for their horrible soundness issues. One of them had broken his leg (i believe in the ankle but I’m not a 100% sure) a total of four times at a very early age. His grandsire, Mineshaft also retired due to injury. When you breed unsound horses, you’re going to get very unsound horses as a result. The Jockey Club is looking to limit to how many mares a stallion can cover in a breeding season and I believe that will help. Santa Anita has been doing all they can. When they resurfaced the track and implemented all the safety precautions, the numbers of breakdowns dwindled immediately and is continuing to dwindle. They have some of the strictest safety measures in the country right now and have raised the bar extremely high for other tracks to follow.
@danielleharrison5765
@danielleharrison5765 3 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with people if you want to keep an animal then you supposed to treat it with respect not treat it like some trash just to win some money
@miked6523
@miked6523 3 жыл бұрын
Horse gets injured warrants death? Human gets injured…warrants repair/surgery. Why is this not animal cruelty?
@karenhoxie1584
@karenhoxie1584 2 жыл бұрын
Because horses and humans don't heal the same way. Horses need to be able to bear weight on all four legs. If they can't, the other legs develop compensation injuries. Also horses can't lie down for more than four hours at a time. Not the same thing at all.
@horsegirl07
@horsegirl07 4 жыл бұрын
Whipping him had nothing to do with him not being able to stop. He was following the herd, that’s what made him keep running until his jokey realized he was hurt and pulled him up. They may be race horses but, they are still horses with instinct to follow the herd. You are putting human emotions and rational thinking on an animal (a horse which is a herd animal) and they simply don’t think that way like we do. A human would know to stop, animals, not so much
@krazykirl1129
@krazykirl1129 Жыл бұрын
It's interesting how they cover up the reality of this just so that people who place bets on horses can feel at eaze.
@TR-vr5pz
@TR-vr5pz 11 ай бұрын
if your titts were brains, youd be dangerous
@jennifermoffett9866
@jennifermoffett9866 11 ай бұрын
They couldn't wait to put him to sleep.
@mexxix9665
@mexxix9665 4 жыл бұрын
This is just another point why racing is abusive and dangerous for horses, I dont care about the people I'm just sad more having died. The same amount of horses that have died doing this should be the same amount of jockeys.
@dianeswanson4541
@dianeswanson4541 3 жыл бұрын
When will this ABUSE stop?!!?
@Pugkin5405
@Pugkin5405 3 жыл бұрын
"should" means nothing
@sarahjones-jf4pr
@sarahjones-jf4pr Жыл бұрын
@@dianeswanson4541 NEVER MONEY IS EVERYTHING IN THIS "SPORT"
@kairabakker6993
@kairabakker6993 4 жыл бұрын
2 days before this race he already had problems with his hind leg, look at @sugar_lovesracing her instagram story he shouldn't have been allowed to race that day this could have been prevented
@countalucard4226
@countalucard4226 4 жыл бұрын
Kaira Bakker he had a workout prior to the race that was 2 seconds slower than expected. The horse should of been scratched.
@kairabakker6993
@kairabakker6993 4 жыл бұрын
@@countalucard4226 yes I know so sad also how the owner gave up so easily I mean no horse should suffer but barbaro broke his hind leg and his owners did literally everything to save the horse for months now its just thankyou for the money bye
@suzanneyoung8011
@suzanneyoung8011 4 жыл бұрын
@@kairabakker6993 The owners followed the advice of 4 very good veterinarians. You can't compare this to Barbaro's injury. This break was in a different location and appeared to be more severe.
@suzanneyoung8011
@suzanneyoung8011 4 жыл бұрын
@@countalucard4226 every horse was thoroughly looked at for lameness and had its body palpated for soreness by a vet everyday. Out of an abundance of caution, at least 2 horses were scratched from some of the other races due to very minor issues, including one of the English horses that came over Due to the special protocols put in place by Santa Anita, it is the vet's final decision. Under other circumstances, those particular scratches may not have occurred. Mongolian Groom was checked just like the others, and if he was not fit to race, he would have been scratched by the vet earlier that day.
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 жыл бұрын
The owners paid over a 100k to race him. BC wasn't going to turn that cash down.
@gooddogbelle
@gooddogbelle 4 жыл бұрын
Let fans of racing see the death of these horses. Putting up green screens keeps the fans distant from these terrible endings.
@jeannecooke4862
@jeannecooke4862 3 жыл бұрын
They patted that horse, inside the trailer ... anyone else see that??? Really???
@Moter-c7m
@Moter-c7m 3 жыл бұрын
I hate horse racing they put stuff into the horses legs and thats how they die and go so fast!!!!
@ChaseFanNo.9
@ChaseFanNo.9 4 жыл бұрын
Santa Anita should close for good.
@cd-jimenez3279
@cd-jimenez3279 4 жыл бұрын
Subjective answer...let's close all the highways then too according to your logic🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@suzanneyoung8011
@suzanneyoung8011 4 жыл бұрын
Again, another uninformed, subjective opinion not based on facts.
@Rick-rl1ss
@Rick-rl1ss 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Mongolian Groom. Horses break down at every track but Santa Anita has become a hell hole for it recently. Can't believe it took until the Classic for a horse to break down. Love the sport but way too many breakdowns nowadays. Something has to change.
@trevinize
@trevinize 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe rise the age of the horses . Two, three year old, the bones are still weak. If not, race as the quaterhorses much more less distance.
@suemich2319
@suemich2319 4 жыл бұрын
Race on grass, no lasix, like they do in Europe. Changes need to be made in breeding, use of whip and meds. Gotta get a national racing commission, too, with all the major players of the industry involved.
@Rick-rl1ss
@Rick-rl1ss 4 жыл бұрын
@@trevinize They've raced at 2 for a long time, just the breed was more suited in the old days I guess
@Rick-rl1ss
@Rick-rl1ss 4 жыл бұрын
@@suemich2319 There is grass racing here but I agree really needs to be one governing body and they need to do what's best for the horses
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 жыл бұрын
get rid of mortality insurance be my recommendation. Or at least forbid Live racing injuries from being covered.
@VaqueroVegano
@VaqueroVegano 4 жыл бұрын
Yo dis is fucked up mayne why dey tryna cover up wit da green things
@jasminahaverinen5759
@jasminahaverinen5759 4 жыл бұрын
These green screens are pathetic. Only in races these are always on hand and in rodeo there are ”random” riders that come out of nowhere to cover the injuries by gathering around the injured animal. These screens are not used in any other sport! If this was a privacy thing or ”for the children spectators” why are not injured people ever covered in any sports or even in these events?? These poor animals are inbred and run to death for MONEY, they are whipped and they weat painful bits in their mouths. With any other animal this would cause a rage and called out as abuse but for some reason it is ok to abuse horses? Dispicable ”sport” 🤮
@agustindejesus7398
@agustindejesus7398 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone watching the race on TV or live is an expert of what happened to a horse when he beoke down.....forgive them God, they dont know what are they talking about.
@Makado14
@Makado14 2 жыл бұрын
But they know that it's wrong
@josesanchez-tg1gs
@josesanchez-tg1gs 4 жыл бұрын
Ban horse racing but not rodeo ?? Hmmmmm you guys are nuts . All sports have injuries deal with it
@mariacase9541
@mariacase9541 4 жыл бұрын
The activists are trying to ban rodeo, too. The same nut jobs that protest in front of Santa Anita also protest rodeo.
@suzanneyoung8011
@suzanneyoung8011 4 жыл бұрын
@@mariacase9541 yes, well maybe they should put their time and effort towards protesting against their city and state governments that are so inept and worthless and have allowed the homelessness, filth and crime on the streets get so bad, that they now have diseases in LA not seen since the middle ages. They're polluting their cities and oceans with human waste. That's where the real inhumanity and unethical treatment is!!! The horses are doing just fine. Go focus on where the real problems are!
@yote76
@yote76 4 жыл бұрын
from a FB post -- I find it incredibly sad that the horse racing industry and so many GREAT LOVING people in it has become the victim of media, haters and such an inept response to crisis. I find it more incredulous that so much finger pointing is so misplaced; Lack of any real leadership, infighting is the status quo. WHAT I do understand is what is obvious: !. Weanlings, yearlings going thru reconstructive surgeries, pins, casts, wires to produce best looking conformation at sales: yearlings, two year olds going thru one if not two sales, being kept inside - drugs that perhaps strengthen bones that in fact weaken bones- all to bring the most money at the sales- we are indeed breeding and selling much more fragile horses.( THIS is not about all breeders, but hasn't it become how much consignors, breeders etc can make at sales?) 2. Racehorses retired early due to injury becoming stallions with little thought of what is being passed on to offspring. 3. 2 year old sales with babies working in 9 flat and working for speed to sell for the most money. 4. owners /trainers using vets to patch up, inject, shock waive , mask pain to win at all costs- horses seldom getting time off. 5. so many tracks - hustling to fill races and those that run horses to get that one last race---- IS any of that applicable to the tragic event at the breeders cup today-? it all adds up, making today so sad, and newsworthy . (there were other tracks this week that had breakdowns ) . The decision to keep the breeders cup at Santa Anita always seemed truly crazy to me- why would an industry hold the biggest event in racing at the very place that the world was watching as we all held out breathe during each race.------
@highstandards6226
@highstandards6226 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a (bleeding heart know nothing) who figures she has ALL the answers, and none of the actual knowledge. Xrays are usually a *requirement* of those sales. And those will show *any work* done. Trainers shopping with or for owners usually advise against those purchases. Just too risky. And yes, we all know steroids are very bad. Part of the reason, too, for blood and urine tests, after every race. often random ones called in during morning workouts. By random I MEAN random! Like "1, 2, 3, you: testbarn...1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ,6, you! Testbarn!"..and that's riders as well as horses! Pretty sure the Breeders Cup rotates between countries, not just racetracks..being held in Dubai was probably one of the toughest years. Altitude, heat..time change AND risks involved with flying some of the greatest horses in racing overseas? Talk about a nightmare! One case in point, a filly who possibly had a TON of talent, wasn't actually training for racing. Her owner wanted her to, the *trainer* knew she wouldn't make it, but if he refused, given her breeding and connections, there was a host of trainers who'd line up for the chance to have her in their stable! So...guess who rode her routinely, tuff tuff filly, bred to run, and that's what she was determined to do. Took all my skill and strength to keep her to a dull roar. Even that was sometimes too much, and she'd have to just go out and jog, keep her active enough to stay safe, but keep as much stress off those front legs, whatever it took. And yes, it took a LOT! But her value wasn't in her ability to run, it was in her blood and eventually her womb. I didn't particularly understand until the day her famed big brother stepped off the trailer and into the shedrow. THEN the lightbulb went on! Indeed, her produce would bring more than she could ever possibly win! But if she raced, the risk of catastrophic breakdowns, (think Eight Belles) even in the most sturdy of horses is just too high, so race, she never did. Produce some spectacular foals? Absolutely. 😁😎 Yes there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than most ever know about, but it's not all bad. Bad horsemen are rabidly disliked in *ANY* faction of the horse industry. And tend to get weeded out very quickly. Attrition usually. When you're despised, no good people of any industry want to be associated with you, in any way. I'm betting that's as true in tennis or football as in any sport. Get a bad name, your best idea us to go home and hang up your equipment. I've been GIVEN horses at the end of their careers, horses who, with the right trainer, techniques and handling could have easily gone on for at least another year, possibly two. But, connections, know I won't do it. No matter how promising the animal, if they've got a 2nd career that's not racing, I'll find a way to put them in it. My code to the first horse who trusted me with his life, and I failed him. Old gelding(by racehorse standards) well bred, should be able to run, but every year he'd come back to the track, try to get fitted up to a race, and then he'd quit. Just wouldn't "work" anymore. Being as "old" as he was, he knew *every* trick in the book to *not* go out and *do anything*, let alone work(real works, timed over a given distance) an older rider had already warned me about him(by name) and not to ever get on him, he'd hurt me.(being a newbie at the track, he was being kind and taking care of me. Not more than a couple of weeks later that exact horse appeared. Being new, I didn't dare refuse to ride him...but, we got along. I did with most, took me a long time to figure out why. And getting dropped a time or two when I was feeling "shy". *Every horse* I rode, seemed to have A song. Just a specific song that they liked to hear. I'm no Julie Andrews, but I AM a mom. So I had a pretty good repertoire of tunes and words to go with them. Eventually I'd stumble upon the right song for each horse. It almost always included their name. Not necessarily their registered name, but whatever their groom called them. What they were familiar with meaning "them". Rode one who had " devil" in his name. Now he GOT called that a fair bit, but his more common names, I couldn't use, given that swearing on the track is rather frowned upon, and I couldn't afford the fines or days off...so I tried out "my mommy told me something..." for him. Puke was setting up for a shoulder drop when he 1st heard "Devil"(which happened to be part of his name) and he immediately lost the stiffness that let me know he was interested in doing deeds other than being angelic...one ear stayed aimed backwards the whole ride, listening. By the time we pulled up, my throat was so dry, I couldn't do more than hum, but he still felt that was enough. Got back to our shedrow, groom's standing ready with a lead shank, expecting to get a call at any time to go fetch... stunned when horse and I sauntered in, no lathering on the horse(working sweat doesn't lather, only nervous sweat lathers up, so I'm told), no dirt on me, and we're together, just like we were going out. Somehow, I became the golden child, getting all the " pukes" after that. Doesn't mean I didn't eat my share of dirt nor get bugs on my teeth from unintended speeds, just that I'd learned how to 'get along with' sometimes grouchy old farts. The first horse mentioned? I left that barn to work at another 2 days before the race they'd been conditioning him for...up until then, when they'd get a jockey out to work him(timed trial over given distance) he'd step out on the track and stop. Wouldn't move for love nor money. They tried ponying him to break off, as soon as the pony strap was pulled off; He'd hit the brakes. Didn't just slow down, full on reining horse *dead stop*. Embarrassing b'tard. One jock was so mad he took his tack off right there and walked away. Trainer caught up to him and asked if he'd ride the horse in a race if he could prove to the jockey that the horse *COULD* be ridden on he track. Jockey laughed at him, but was at the rail to watch next morning when I worked him, the exact distance and time the trainer had asked the jockey to do. Jockey was *not* smiling when he realized it was *a girl!* that just showed him up! In leaving to further my own career, another (female, again) rider was assigned to ride him...as I left the track my last day, I saw them riding, she's trying her heart out to sing " his song..." and he was behaving like a gentleman, but I noticed a (very) slight hitch in his stride. Went in earlier the next morning made a pit stop at my old barn and only the assistant trainer(who had never gotten along with me anyways) was in, mentioned to her that I'd noticed he was behaving, great, but he looked "off." She said she'd mention it to the trainer when she saw him, but it was really none of my business anymore. Again as I left the premises for the day, they're out there, and he's worse. Two days later he had that race. He got 3 strides out of the gate, right in front of the grandstand, and went down. Right down. Screens went up horse ambulance wasn't called. I went home, stayed there for 3 seasons. Took the oomph right out of me. Trainer told me later that he'd have stopped any other year, but he'd kept going, even though his ankles hurt, because he was trying to please *me*. His ankles were so full of microfracture, when he'd come out of the gates, high on racing adrenaline, his ankles went to powder. He didn't feel it beforehand, because of the adrenaline. If I hadn't been so "damned good" at my job, that horse would have listened to his own body and refused to keep working at all. Being sent home for retirement instead. Granted, he also might have been sold for meat, but at least he wouldn't have suffered those last few days, let alone that time after coming out of the gates before the vet got there with the needle of euthanol. That stays with me every time I take on an OTTB for retraining to "normal life." I'm their last hope. If *I don't* get this right, someone (usually kid) is going to get hurt, and this horse is going to die. That's a load that does NOT get lighter with the years.
@suemich2319
@suemich2319 4 жыл бұрын
@OcalaBoxer Exactly, thank you High Standards.
@claudiamaierhofer5267
@claudiamaierhofer5267 2 жыл бұрын
Horse abuse 🤬🤬😡😡poor Horse 😭😭this is sick😡
@rabidrooster6525
@rabidrooster6525 2 жыл бұрын
I lost $2.00 on that damn horse Mongolian Groom
@strangerdanger1271
@strangerdanger1271 2 жыл бұрын
Probably your last $2 you bum
@rabidrooster6525
@rabidrooster6525 2 жыл бұрын
@@strangerdanger1271 IKR! Guess we both ended up broke that day.
@alexlin5779
@alexlin5779 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks God! They did not put Mongolian Groom down.
@nacholescarberry4850
@nacholescarberry4850 4 жыл бұрын
Yes they did, just not right there on the track.
@Makado14
@Makado14 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they did.
@alexlin5779
@alexlin5779 4 жыл бұрын
@@Makado14 They did! I could see it in the trailer. How did you know that?
@Makado14
@Makado14 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexlin5779 it was on several news feeds on Google
@alexlin5779
@alexlin5779 4 жыл бұрын
@@Makado14 Sad! Did not give it a chance, animal cruelty.
@byrd5163
@byrd5163 2 жыл бұрын
Injuries are apart of everything in life. I love horses and horse racing
@emilywood761
@emilywood761 2 жыл бұрын
Then they get killed. If you love horses then you wouldn’t fund this.
@Mkg8921
@Mkg8921 Жыл бұрын
If you love horse racing then why don't you play the role of horse and get controlled by rider and if get tired and if you die and get your leg and neck broken no one will be responsible for it. Being a human try to feel the pain of animal . they also feel tired exhausted like human. Animals are not a racing machine cars
@ajm.eventing1034
@ajm.eventing1034 4 жыл бұрын
This makes me want to throw up. People are dumb.
@victoruribe2924
@victoruribe2924 4 жыл бұрын
If you want to comment maybe you should consider changing your picture!! Hunting animals doesn't make you throw up? What a double standard!!
@kazimirror8042
@kazimirror8042 4 жыл бұрын
This is not from abuse lol.
@emmaduncan3364
@emmaduncan3364 4 жыл бұрын
Why?
@TraceySatan
@TraceySatan 4 жыл бұрын
@@kazimirror8042 yes it is from abuse. The Veterinarian Baker injected the horses leg & heavily medicated the horse the night before. The horse did not want to load to come to the race. She knew that loading equaled a race, which equaled pain.
@Bongaboi151
@Bongaboi151 4 жыл бұрын
As Trump.
@victormorales4507
@victormorales4507 4 жыл бұрын
It did happen remember ruffian
@harperspringray2512
@harperspringray2512 4 жыл бұрын
my favorite race horse :(
@royaumeuni5730
@royaumeuni5730 4 жыл бұрын
...and Barbaro and Eight Belles and Go For Wand and...
@Makado14
@Makado14 4 жыл бұрын
Greatest filly that ever lived 💪
@EleKokky
@EleKokky 3 жыл бұрын
More like Barbaro
@tunekahuna8146
@tunekahuna8146 2 жыл бұрын
even when that beautiful horse was injured he did not throw off the jockey or went berserk he took all the time to stop and let the jockey get off and sad thing is when the jockey got off he pushed the horse away,horse never knew his life was about to end a few minutes ago it was something else and after something else, truly humans are curse to these beautiful creatures!
@simply_sprinkles7997
@simply_sprinkles7997 3 жыл бұрын
The horse would of made it if that dumb rider got of him sooner
@j-man699
@j-man699 4 жыл бұрын
What's eating away at the thoroughbred industry? Licensing! We license some of the worse people possible. They have no desire to become horsemen. They know very little about the horse and how to train one. Read the form. It's all right there. The test is ridiculous when you think about what is at stake. Horsemen are becoming a thing of the past. Any of us probably can point to less than a dozen. So very few trainers know that when horses reach 5 years old, they go through a mental change. They become adults, if you will. How many times have you seen an older horse get a freshening and expected to need one, romp with top speed numbers? Only to be run back in 21-28 days and watch the numbers digress, race after race. Now, the horse is mentally ruined because he told his trainer, the only way he knows how to communicate and got ignored. Now he starts a pattern of cheating. He gave up. Why? Because his trainer has no desire to become a horseman. The fix: Anyone applying for a trainers license must take a horsemanship course, designed to teach about speed horses and stayers and the vast difference in training. Training the horses mind. Knowing how to get a horse ready for 2 turns without it being a big surprise. A course that also sets them on a path to horsemanship. I mark really nice horses to stable mail and watch 80% of them go right down hill due to shear ignorance. I'm SICK of it. Back in 1972, I remember full fields, all day. I also remember no shortage of true horsemen. As they died off, they left us with pretenders. They intern turned out more pretenders. It's time to stop this destructive snowball and teach trainers how to train. Make testing far more intensive. Employ real horsemen to put together a course that works
@candieland4276
@candieland4276 4 жыл бұрын
Why did they put the sheets up when all they did was load him on the trailer...he was standing in the trailer still and everything...???
@iamthegroot
@iamthegroot 3 жыл бұрын
I don't fully understand the point of the green curtains in this case. Looks like the deed was done in the white trailer.
@elizabethvonharten3135
@elizabethvonharten3135 3 жыл бұрын
It's too keep the horse calm
@Zamlak
@Zamlak Жыл бұрын
On his way to the glue-shop! Nothing to see here!
@didine256
@didine256 4 жыл бұрын
Horse races should be banned 😡 Animals are not meant for human entertainment
@EarthPoets
@EarthPoets 4 жыл бұрын
@LivingTheDream I completely agree. Have you seen the short spoken word piece *The Tragedy of Horse Racing - Fred's Story* here on YT?
@EarthPoets
@EarthPoets 4 жыл бұрын
@Ethan Vance So you are looking for a _'realistic perspective'_ ? Ok, how about this: You are not remotely _'neutral'_ , your entire argument is for the continuation of the abuse and murder of horses because you can't see a way to end it. Whatever is done, almost every single horse currently in the industry will be murdered within the next 10 years. Not only those but every single one who does not make the grade will be murdered too. Just as with the animal flesh, dairy and egg industries, horse racing would be phased out over a managed timescale during which less animals would be bred into them.
@frostedpenguin6629
@frostedpenguin6629 4 жыл бұрын
Earth Poets you have a one sided perspective too because you won’t explain what should be done. He is trying to get a different perspective and learn what to do but you are just close minded and not willing to have a constructive conversation. If anyone says anything that isn’t exactly what you want you get mad. I don’t think horse races should happen but I want to know how it will be done humanely and not cause more harm for animals not just hearing you say that is should be stopped
@EarthPoets
@EarthPoets 4 жыл бұрын
@FrostedPenguin _'you won’t explain what should be done'_ See if you can find someone to explain plain English to you. It's all there in my answer.
@HelenaMikas
@HelenaMikas 4 жыл бұрын
@Ethan Vance you are not 100% right . .Have several friends who adopted and the horses lived a good quiet life These friends were not rich .Simply loved animals .. Horses live wild in UK by the way in the New Forest ...
@Emaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@Emaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
It's sad that they had to put the horse down, was it really fatal though, or could it have been healed
@dago1402
@dago1402 4 жыл бұрын
Horse racing will not be banned anytime soon 😌
@Ladypurr
@Ladypurr 4 жыл бұрын
You may live to eat your words. Think Indian casinos! People don't like horror shows and that's just what racing has become.
@dago1402
@dago1402 4 жыл бұрын
S L Trout nope 👎🏽
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 жыл бұрын
I have bet the races for decades. I stopped actually watching them after about 2 yrs. Once you see a few breakdowns you can't watch. I can barely even listen to the calls. After being 100 yards away when Roving Boy broke both his hind legs in 1983 that was enough for me. I was also watching Go For Wand on TV at a bar when she fell. I left the place crying like a baby. I agree with PETA the whipping needs to end immediately. They also need to end races shorter than a mile IMHO. Too much stress.
@luv2wcsdance
@luv2wcsdance 3 жыл бұрын
@@johndough23 Cruel, barbaric horseracing needs to end and every race (death) track shut down! It is not a sport but a vile gambling industry and needs to be banned! If your want to gamble, go to a Casino! #EndHorseracingNOW!
@garyking6365
@garyking6365 3 жыл бұрын
Stop this crap. Just like Greyhound dog racing was stopped this and rodeos need to stop also.
@misterb6416
@misterb6416 Жыл бұрын
Seems at this day and age they could come up with a way to make an injury to a leg be not life ending. They should use some of the billions of dollars that horse racing brings in to come up with a way.
@SquirtleHK
@SquirtleHK 4 жыл бұрын
May 2, 2020, glad they did not run the Kentucky Derby due to covid-19! We need to invent a new way to celebrate horses the first Saturday in May without humans forcing any horse into anything!
@joanbacon-boers7972
@joanbacon-boers7972 3 жыл бұрын
You would rather see the tragedy unfortunately animals get hurt and even at home you lose them when they are doing nothing but having fun in the yard it's sad
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