Pete Townshend on Jonesy's Jukebox

95.5 KLOS / 2007 - Pete Townshend joins Steve Jones, with cameos from Iggy and the Stooges, Damon Albarn and Paul Simonon.

[@NewFalconerRecords]

By the time of his meeting with Paul Cook and Steve Jones and the writing of 'Who Are You', Pete Townshend was considered to be some old fart music industry "dinosaur". He was 32 years old. The late Jeff Buckley made just one album in his lifetime and died at the age of 30. He was still considered a young artist at that time. It just goes to show how condensed and progressive those original 60s artists were with their output, and just what they managed to cram into an insane amount of time. The Beatles' whole recording career lasted for what? Seven or so years? There are bands today that only release an album every seven years. A great interview, this one.

[@lysanderofsparta3708]

Yeah, all those major figures from the '60s did it all before the age of 30.

[@ampallang7]

algo mould, jones 4 president, sign up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jelkel25]

They planned for a 3 year career as that is what you often got if you were lucky in the UK. Most of the Mersybeat bands who cashed in on the Beatles success were irrelevant by "68 and the big bands thought they would end up the same way.

[@impalaman9707]

Now days a 30 year old is like an adolescent--my how times have changed!!

[@impalaman9707]

@@cejannuzi I know, he extended an olive branch to the young punks in the 70s and they yanked it and smashed it to bits. Well, its nice to see at least Steve Jones made up with Pete, whose only ten years older, and could have easily been an older brother to him, they almost even look like they are the same age

[@YTPartyTonight]

The Who, The Stooges, The Sex Pistols... I've spent countless hours listening to everything by them all, over and over and over again. It's all on a continuum to me.

[@Itelkner]

I've had similar experience. There's a very clear correlation between those bands.

[@babsfitzpatrick7280]

I can't tell you how much I'm enjoying this chat between Pete and Steve! The dog story Pete shared about him and his dad was almost the same story I have about my dad and me; except ours took place in America (though my dad's from London, where his love of dog racing began at age 14; barely out of short pants, I reckon). I loved hearing 'The Who Are You' story, too! Actually, being from Detroit and loving The Stooges, I loved the beginning with Iggy, too! Everything, Everything has been a complete joy here, and I've got 15 more precious minutes of 'great' to enjoy; I was just too excited and wanted to share..... Sadly it's over, but that was f n Great! That was the best hour+ I've spent during this entire COVID19 lockdown! Thank you all, so so much! The Who is Love and I Love The Who (beyond measure)!

[@impalaman9707]

What a lovely quote from the late, great Ron Asheton to Pete Townshend: "Because of YOU....I'm ME!"

[@Petty5720]

This has to be the best of all Steve’s chats, thoroughly enjoyed it. Well done Steve and Pete👍

[@portapotty69]

Man, I really appreciate these recordings. Very cool hearing you guys tell stories without any annoying journalists trying to pry or be provocative.

[@dannygray4898]

Just imagine being in the same room as Keith Moon, Dave Davis and Brian Jones, back in 67? I bet those really were THE days.

[@sratus]

Being in a room with members of the Stooges, Pistols, Clash, Who & Blur like in this podcast wouldn't be half bad either.

[@pauldavies6037]

Jonesy best music interviews on the radio and You Tube should get an Oscar!

[@Paul-dw2cl]

I love Pete. it’s crazy that he was 62 at the time of this in 2007. And he’s 76 now. I love Jonesy, too

[@Pun2404]

What a great interview, I’m a new Jonesey’s Jukebox fan and this is in the top 5 personal favorite already.

[@plasteredbastard]

Jonesy was crushing hard on Pete and Iggy. Stammered because they are obvious heroes.

[@oldskoolpaul89]

Really enjoyed that. Brilliant. Steve's so happy, who are you was written about him and Paul cook. Epic stuff . Great upload . Cheers.

[@oldskoolpaul89]

@paul trewin whatever they say about Townsend his bloody brilliant love the who. Epic interview aswell . Both his and dalhterey's solo stuff . Great aswell. Wish I went to see them when I had the chance driving across Canada once but never went . It was in Edmonton Alberta and ACDC where playing too , morons . They sold out but the who never. What do some folk know about music hey.

[@KamenSentaiMetalHero]

Great interview. Both the Who and the Stooges definitely paved the way for punk rock, especially the latter. So it's very fitting that Steve Jones(formerly of the Sex Pistols) have both Pete Townshend and the Stooges on his show. If only both bands collaborated with each other at their peak.

[@jameswarhol442]

If anyone paved the way for punk rock(in England) it was the NY Dolls who were managed by Mclaren in their last year together and Richard Hell whose look was copied by Rotten. Many other factors, of course, but that was ground zero in NYC that spread like a virus around the world.

[@ianshaw2321]

@@jameswarhol442 NY dOLLS , who copied their whole act from the Stones?

[@jeffgorgon5455]

The Romones. @@jameswarhol442

[@klausrain111]

I listened to Tommy about 40 times in a row when it came out. Listened to Bollocks about 100 times in a row.

[@BlueeyesofSkye]

Which means you have equal amount of listening time to both. 🙃

[@yodaneer4127]

...."I was preaching from my chair., I remember throwing punches around..." Thanks for getting Pete's clarification Jonesy.

[@thelizardking9382]

This was a great interveiw. Thanks

[@jameswarhol442]

super boring.

[@robertdavidson9393]

I loved the pistols and adored the Who!End of story!

[@mickdevlin]

You and I should have a pint....

[@josephbuckley5961]

@@mickdevlin that's very rare I like both two !!

[@robertdavidson9393]

2 pints lol!

[@MattSmith-iq1ld]

Part of the reason is because unlike other English bands, The Who never left England. Although they played a lot in America, they never catered to the American audience. They stayed in England despite the ridiculous taxes. Obviously the guitar smashing, hotel smashing influenced punk acts.

[@karlclarke]

same

[@w1lf1ewoo]

These two work well together and overlap , both from london and Pete has a brilliant way of explaining r&r history its players and culture. - their voices are similar and its hard to tell whos talking sometimes but you know its Pete when he gets going effortlessly

[@pintopunteruksmallford1035]

I could listen to Pete all day long....and Steve's giggles.

[@stream2watch]

Pete hooks up with one of the Rough Boys of the song. Can't wait to listen to this.

[@AwesomeBeatles]

My oldest brother saw The Who at The Baltimore Civic , in like 1965. The wife and I saw The Who twice at Tinley Park (Chicago). Great shows. These guys are professional , thru and thru.

[@danielbrantley6158]

I listened to this live on the 405N on my way to Long Beach Airport to do a long distance flight in a Cessna 152! Never forget, I love The Who. During the flying which was a solo, I was singing and jamming Who songs in between radio calls! Long live rock!

[@JRAFF145]

Of all people I hear interviewed, I enjoy Pete Townshend interviews the best. The only one that comes close - is when Howard Stern inyterviewed Billy Joel. That interview was long and detailed. Howard did a great job. But, Pete interviews are the best. In one, he barks back, "All my friends are dead...."

[@MikeHawk84]

There would be no Stooges without the Who & there would be no Sex Pistols without the Stooges. Fantastic interview.

[@vistalite]

Instinct is a really good record. I had forgotten that Steve co-wrote those tunes.

[@chrisjaybecker]

It's interesting to note that Jonesy refers to Iggy by his given name, Jim (Jim Osterberg), throughout the interview.

[@69Ferg]

why is that interesting?

[@randomdudelife]

his friends call him jim

[@69Ferg]

@@randomdudelife how interesting

[@randomdudelife]

@@69Ferg not really lol

[@nickstavrakakis9692]

Pretty simple jim is his name and surname osterberg. But a character on stage as iggy and surname as pop.2 differant ppl.but jim manegers iggy.and jim controls him.he is a conservative in real life.very intelligent human

[@D13fs]

I've listened to a lot of PT interviews and this is my favourite. He seems much more natural like he's not putting on a performance as he so often seems to.

[@danieltaylor4728]

Yep, spot on.

[@BrianKishreviews]

maybe he's a little buzzed

[@seanparker7415]

Yeah, he's usually really sef-conscious in interviews.

[@D13fs]

@@seanparker7415 I think what makes a difference is that he's talking to a friend/contemporary/fellow rockstar musician who became a radio host/interviewer. Jones may not have been a contemporary of the 60's era, but the mid/late 70's on.

[@TheEdie1958]

Distinguish Rock ambassador sophisticated dry wit and profound lecturer reminiscent of Noel Coward, Sebastian Cabot, and musical impresario of the cultural arts. Cheers Sir Peter.

[@helenaopal]

Thank you for posting!

[@ECNIV2000]

Johnny, Steve, Ronny James, and Pete, Keith, all taught me how to play, very similar to Jonesy, cos he was probably my biggest influence, but this meeting is epic! At 15, I’d get zooted, and learned how to make those sounds by listening to “Loose” (maybe my favorite when “Funhouse” is in heavy rotation), each Stooges album had different vibes that all ruled, but I’m a bit younger than y’all so NMTB and some of the indie live releases of 100 club Pistols performance with Glen at the top of their game we’re where I learned the “Jonesesque”. leads. All this was a big influence on my playing, Thunders, the Dolls first album for sure, but the Heartbeakers really had the roots rock on lock! Can’t leave out the Ramones first 4 albums, all the Who, just amazing, good tunes from ‘64-‘82, I was lucky enough to see the Who at MSG in Oct of 2000, while John “The Ox” Entwhistle was still with us, 9th row, they sounded as powerful as any 1970, “Live at Leeds” they still have it. Y’all do. Uncle Iggy!! Cheers!

[@sratus]

Thanks mate, been looking for this for ages

[@delphinbringsby6768]

This is an old interview, from March 2007 in my hometown, Austin.

[@surfinbird2mcdonald461]

great interview with pete brilliant nice one Jonesy....

[@2012ehecatl]

Thank you Steve, this is epic. God bless you. Long live Pete & the Stooge’s

[@thepillarsofcreation9170]

Great interview with Pete. Sounds like they like each other a lot. Great episode.

[@guylawrance2216]

A real guitar legend..........and Pete Townsend !

[@wyndorphstormcrow8372]

Don't get me wrong Pete is awesome but I am a huge fan of Jonesy growing up like I did and having a severe learning disability he's been a huge influence

[@adrianbrowne7962]

Respect " Definitely Due " For having been able to "Attract Musical Heavyweights Of This Calibre " !! An excellent show " Highly Recommended " !!!! From Adrian Browne 1965

[@sirlordcomic]

Pete speaks so eloquently about music.

[@napoleoninrags1346]

Genius is so often over used, particularly, in Rock... Pete is truly earns the characterization.

[@5jerry1]

~ Roger Waters has said the same thing; he said the only two "geniuses" he has ever met were Pete Townshend and Frank Zappa.

[@rafflesxyz4800]

You nicked that from J. Nicholson presenting The Who at Live Aid you faker!

[@napoleoninrags1346]

@@rafflesxyz4800 honestly, not consciously ....no kidding....shrugs...

[@napoleoninrags1346]

But I'm sure I have seen that, being a who head...

[@rafflesxyz4800]

@@napoleoninrags1346 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hn7bqIOFpL-glcU

[@MultiPetercool]

I would argue The Who were the original Punks. Jagger sang about being a “Street Fighting Man”. Roger Daltrey would kick Mick’s ass! Mick was a rich kid who went to the London School of Economics while Roger worked bending sheet metal in a factory. I’m sure Pete would agree.

[@johngilliam6764]

The rolling Stones created the punk attitude not the who

[@krisscanlon4051]

All punks in essence...the glee of the 60s Brit Beat energy coalesced into these groups...punk picked up the torch left behind by those great groups...gangs...not Bowie Bolan and Elton...the glee and energy of that early sound and vision...if anything Sex Pistols were the last of that first run in '64 or so only took em 10 years 😂!

[@MultiPetercool]

@@krisscanlon4051 the Sex Pistols covered “Substitute”. ‘Nuff said. Then, of course there was Screaming Lord Sutch. Who was as much a punk Godfather as a shock rock Godfather.

[@mirrortime]

14 years ago. They all sound younger here. What a great moment in time. Love these guys!

[@libertard6101]

This is legendary interview…. Wow. And “who are you is written about pistols “ 🤷🏻‍♂️😂….. this is gold !!! And stooges tooo. ….. what more do you need? Lol

[@atombomb31458]

im in heaven with this interview/discussion...iggy the stooges and pete townshend??? does it get any better??

[@KamenSentaiMetalHero]

Imagine if the Who and the Stooges at their peak collaborated. It would have been legendary.

[@atombomb31458]

@Revolution Will Not Be Televised with Anonymous --haha--just relistened to it--you are right i think he thought they were the new york dolls

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

I have to be careful not to preach - I can't pretend that I can teach; And yet I've lived your future out - By pounding stages, like a clown; And on the dance floors Broken glass - and bloody faces - Slowly pass, And numbered seats, in empty rows, It all belongs to me, you know... P.T.

[@trishjohn6050]

Just reading the lyrics gives me the goosebumps

[@seekah1]

Shit this was good, I can't stop listening to these interviews, thankyou!

[@davidallen346]

Pete seem to be very cheerful and optimistic on Instagram

[@MrBrungers]

David Allen he is

[@troysanders2086]

WOW,WOW,WOW the two greatest influences on my life, Townsend and Jones

[@mjh5437]

If I saw all these bands play in one night I`die happy.

[@patricknicholson9407]

I love Steve’s American accent. Best of the box/bits in the bed haha

[@dbag3345]

Jonesy give Nick Kent some credit for introducing you to Jim and his work.

[@Jubilo1]

"Blimey !" says Pete.

[@brandonlefton1346]

So beautiful how Pete played

[@dumpwoodhere]

All my heroes in one room. Incredible.

[@i.cuthbert1003]

It's lgreat to hear these guys talking like a few blokes in the pub. Great.

[@gustavnovak]

Amazing ! pete n the stooges the/their stories

[@chriswhite343]

12 years old and mad for the Who

[@willdenham]

I guess I never realized how alike these two are. They both approached their 'scene' the same way. I thought that was interesting. Especially because that was such a part of Quadrephenia and Pete's/Pete's characters' quest for identity. A couple bohemian thinkers growing up in straight ahead, working working class communities.

[@karlclarke]

that shepherds bush pie and mash shop is now no longer with us :(

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Must admit did think he was bullshiting when he said it was still there.

[@karlclarke]

Well it was still there at the time of this interview@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504

[@EltonoutoftheclosetOfficial]

35:07 The music on the 'White City' album is tremendous, arguably the last of Pete's great solo albums.

[@robertkess9907]

It's an underrated album, one of my favorites. Love "Give Blood" that song still delivers the goods.

[@nicholasrosebush6182]

I think its actually his best solo work. I always thought if it was made with the who it would be considered a masterpiece.

[@briankennedy1192]

Great album.

[@Branstonburp]

My two favourite guitarists

[@daevidharvey7113]

Tuff Baby & Tom Tom are my two favourites of Instinct

[@racializedkanadian]

aah this was nice. i just wanted to sit down in a pub and eavesdrop on two geezers from sheppard's bush. epic.

[@Swayzeo]

What a great interview!

[@muziktrkr]

This was an amazing gathering

[@clausm2203]

Great interview

[@Traumm9]

Excellent show. Many thanks for sharing, enjoyed it :-)

[@DBTdad]

The start of the "Who are You" encounter at 37:15 and picks up again at 41:30

[@chrisgrabowski2678]

This was a fun listen :)

[@brandonlefton1346]

Say what you will, Shel Talmy brilliantly produced My Generation.

[@tveye100]

Pete Townshend,The Stooges and Steve Jones.An ideal dinner party.Ron fanboy of The Who.

[@krisscanlon4051]

This must of been a real special moment for Jonesy especially Towser...Sheperds Bush Boys

[@HardRockMaster7577]

Pete part begins at 17:46

[@cosmicmauve]

Thank you!

[@jefferygoodman9928]

@Hard Rock Master: Also t.y.v.m. Saved me from having to listen to 17:45 of boring crap.

[@neilmcdougall9944]

Could Damon Albarn be any more boring or any more pretentious? Let Steve and Pete talk.

[@katoness]

Always thought Albarn was a complete twat.

[@jameswarhol442]

The whole thing was deadly boring. Nothing could be less punk rock than rehashing punk rock.

[@alasdairrobertmacaulay9519]

@@katoness he is

[@killahurtzMP]

He's like that in every interview - he doesn't let anyone talk.

[@heliopolis29]

Neil McDougall DA was clearly out of his depth.

[@riversidepete6128]

I would love to see Jonesy interview Jaz coleman of killing joke...that would be interesting

[@nasskhan4543]

Yes

[@marvinm.messier1120]

2 of my heroes -goddam!

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Mattski Messy Marvin Which one, the pervert or the pistol?

[@marvinm.messier1120]

@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 you'd better be jokin

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Mattski Messy Marvin kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqLVcqB3pNGjq7c

[@gazriley624]

Pete, the Liverpool clubs too

[@Mark-ld5um]

Jonesy used a bunch of Pete Townsends stage moves back in the day 😁

[@louistracy6964]

Jones has no clue about chronology, bless him. The Vortex was much later than those 100 Club gigs, and only Sid turned up there.

[@happyjack1598]

Here we are in late 2020,and all such fun.And Zack Starsky is still the best drummer in my humble opinion!❤❤❤❤

[@Keith-zu4tz]

Awesome interview.

[@happyjack1598]

Hiya.Love this show Hey Pete your story on Siousxie makes ya look like bill grundy wg hen ya were in clubs withe punks yelling who are you.!😀😃😀❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@kennethcraig8897]

The stooges and Pistols couldnt write songs like Pete.the Who had everything punk.or whatever.musicianship.chops.songwriting.STYLE.

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Kenneth Craig The Pistols were much more significant than the who, and always will be.

[@Heatfarmer]

Ok, The Who was first of the three, but not the first rock n' roll band, right? For punk#1 try Little Richard! Their idols were wild, the Who were wild, The Stooges were wild, The Sex Pistols were wild! Don't turn this into a pissing contest. They were all fantastic bands, that took R n' R to the next level!

[@Niels596]

What a unique man, successful in his consequential uniqueness.

[@candydormizzi2500]

2 legends chat !

[@LetsGoMetsGo33]

Great upload. Why aren't the Stooges and Paul Simonon not also in the title?

[@BillyMagic-d8j]

In 1981, Pete T dedicated his song "rough boys" to the Sex Pistols, he was always into new music. Fortunately by the time the Pistols were making the Never mind the bollocks album, Steve Jones, Paul Cook and specially Glen Matlock were above all that crap about the great musicians from the sixties were not worth to be influenced by.

[@markblue5375]

Hey Steve would love to see ya interview Dave Brock !

[@brianpaulmurray]

Holy fuck the best interview of all time

[@robertkess9907]

It was interesting to hear Pete talk about Moon and Starkey, on the new album Zak kills it, he bangs away and captures Moon without copying him.

[@macker8017]

Howard Jones sounds different here loved his 80s stuff

[@briankennedy1192]

No offence man but I couldn't cop him or the Thompson twins in the 80s

[@2012ehecatl]

Instinct is such a killer piece of music ✊🏽

[@fredsmith901]

Absolutely Brilliant!

[@tz7813]

Jonesy’s right. Beside you IS a great song!😂

[@douglasfreeman3229]

Thanks for the upload, Charles Hawtrey...if that's your real name.

[@nicholasrosebush6182]

White city is a god damn masterpiece.

[@007ndc]

I was surprised to hear Pete say he didn't quite liked the music of the album!

[@chriswhite343]

West Runton Pavilion (Girlschool) saw Iggy and the Damned there when I was a school

[@TheEdie1958]

Vinny and I went by car admiring architectural design of suburban homes. Thus tout architect Charles Rennie Mackintosh Art deco rose glass art motiff, ornamental chairs, Willow Tearooms, Glasgow Art School parlayed and reimagined Scottish and japanese inspired. Willow Tearooms. Extol William Burgess Antiquarian Furniture and renown architecture. Cheers Sir Peter and Colleagues.

[@fboness368]

Loved this!

[@jmgmarcus808]

How in the blue hell is there no video of this?

[@escaton74]

happened in a parallel universe

[@nuttywolfie]

Because radio?

[@robertbrown8362]

you tube likes to ban

[@anthonyposso3764]

Punk Rock . . yes you all are Good Actors Great Actors