Behringer UB-Xa D: analog polyphony at its best? Min review/max jam

[@grindhouseglitch]

Love my UB-Xa - covers pretty most of what I need in an analog poly.

[@paphundekel1926]

I've just bought mine - desktop as well. I have to say I'm very impressed by the sound and I do own other hardware synths as well. The most of the youtube videos does not show how great this synth can sounds. In reality it sounds very organic, punchy, warm and rich. I highly recommend to check its sound in the shop if you can. I bet you will be suprissed :-)

[@xisotopex]

how would you rate its sound compared to the deepmind? assuming you have maybe heard/played both.... thanks

[@offworldsynths2019]

Fantastic video, pete!

[@PeteMidi]

Thank you so much! 😊

[@TH3_FURY]

Excellent little review and nice demo track ! The UB-xa d sounds very good and the DMX from GForce sounds wonderful !

[@PeteMidi]

Thanks a lot! 😊

[@Dmyra]

sound is amazing. jam was beautiful.

[@PeteMidi]

Thanks a lot! 😊

[@PaulHofreiter]

I was originally waiting for the desktop version too but I waited too long and Thomann lowered the keyboard price to $766 bucks…getting an MPE controller with the synth for that price was a no brainer. So now my previous midi controller is sitting unused. I was using a Panorama T6 and I liked it but I like the feel of the UBXA way more. I’m surprised so many people didn’t like the keyboard actually - unless they were not expecting synth action, pianists wanting weight or something, I don’t see anything to complain about at all. It feels GREAT.

[@PeteMidi]

I can understand, in my case it was just the lack of space for another keyboard...

[@JetLagRecords]

Pete Midi, nice video it was really good

[@PeteMidi]

Many thanks! 😊

[@monodux]

Wonderful sound!

[@PeteMidi]

Many thanks! 😊

[@arbous65]

Thanks for the video. If you connect UBXa to computer and have UBXa audio out routed to your audio in for let's say Pro Tools or other DAW tracks, can you program the variables through sysex to change the variables you are doing with hand in real time through automation recording? i.e. keep them nondestructive? That's one good thing with the instrument plugins and I primarily compose things in the computer but of course having a nice sounding hardware is very good but not with price of losing the automation option. What is your thoughts?

[@PeteMidi]

Thanks for the feedback 😊 yes, parameter changes can be recorded via midi NRP, total recall is possible in principle, but editing the midi data in the DAW may be difficult, but not impossible...

[@durmstrang.techno]

[@PeterLoof]

Good take on this synth and reviews as such! Better to embrace a good sounding Machine and a sound easily included in the mix.

[@chriswareham]

Great jam, the evolving arpeggios have a similar feel to early tracks by the Australian band Severed Heads.

[@PeteMidi]

😊

[@markuspanitz3448]

Just got my unit and the CC74 mpe issue drives me nuts. It took me almost an hour of getting basically no sounds out of it and then to stumble over this video and find out about this. What makes it even worse: On the Linnstrument you can turn of the timbre (awesome), but if you already playerd a patch with timbre, then each voice is stuck on a different filter amount. This way sometimes you get sound, sometimes you don't. Restarting the unit fixes it. Waldorf has the same issue with the Iridium, but only affecting the pitch. Hopefully they fix this soon. Assigning timbre via mod matrix to anything is basically useless since it always triggers the filter.

[@PeteMidi]

Thanks for the feedback, and yes this has to be fixed!

[@jacquesmertens3369]

The tiny screen and the interface seem to be derived from the Roland jd-xi. It looks identical.

[@ethanburgess3475]

yep, fucking hate it but love everything else about this analog poly, sounds very oberheimish, i also own a jdxi

[@stephenmurphy8349]

Sounds great thanks!

[@PeteMidi]

😊

[@Lewis_Clark]

Love this!!!

[@PeteMidi]

Great, thanks! 😊

[@fiddlestickzmuzik]

I want to hear the synth do things not normally done with a poly OBy type synth, like some gnarly arps with wacky modulation etc, this demo was so tame.

[@marzacdev]

Very very nice jam 🤗

[@Bendy2K]

Great vid! I wonder what this would sound like coming off your Pro-800 rig?

[@PeteMidi]

Many thanks and good question, I will try this 😉

[@Bendy2K]

I would love to see that! :)

[@PatchDog]

Superb Jam, great sounds are you gonna make a soundbank for it?

[@PeteMidi]

Many thanks 😊 currently I have not the time to make a sound bank...

[@TheMachinesWon]

I have the keyboard version and I can’t seem to change octaves when controlling other synths via midi. What do I need to enable to make this work? It’s very frustrating. Otherwise very happy with the synth stand-alone

[@marcbrasse747]

I am not entirely sure if I fully get your MPE remark. Do you mean that it will always ALSO keep changing cutoff per played note even if you ONLY want to control something else? That will off course be a limitation but I have found that cut off is the most musical parameter with poly AT because it adds continuous control of the timbre on top of the more percussive character of conventional keyboard playing. So I could probably live with it mysel. But you are right it is not a very elegant solution. Continuous polyphonic control of the sample scrubbing position for instance actually has the potential to replace filter cut off by using the inherent time related timbral shifts in the sampled material itself (a bit like Palm initially sought to replace the need for filters by wavetable scanning). Alas nobody seems to get this, not even the developers of granular samplers.

[@PeteMidi]

Yes, if you control pan, position, lfo speed or anything else via MPEtimbre, you will also change cutoff frequency at the same time...

[@marcbrasse747]

@@PeteMidi And what if you use poly AT in stead of MPE?

[@PeteMidi]

You can, poly AT works without interference, but MPE provides more polyphonic modulation sources, if it works...

[@marcbrasse747]

@@PeteMidi Good old poly AT. I am a big fan of it. Of course MPE is superior but at the moment I see no reason to invest in it because I have assembled a very versatile setup including an Elka MK88 with poly AT and a Doepfer R2M. Look up Starship One synthesizer. 😁

[@xisotopex]

how does this compare, soundwise, to the deepmind?

[@PeteMidi]

Sorry, I cannot say, I never had the deepmind...

[@xisotopex]

@@PeteMidi have you had or tried any of the virtual analogs, like the modal cobalt? how does this compare?

[@stillphil]

I guess the time to buy it in the states is before those tariffs kick in…

[@FreeThink1984]

Yes behringer is goat

[@vit28cam]

MERCI

[@PeteMidi]

😊

[@decaystar]

Hello, how did you trigger presets without using the keyboard mode?

[@basslin3r]

i supect this is hooked up to a daw and using midi automation

[@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx]

It's strange that many new synths are being designed with tiny LCDs that are no better than those of forty years ago, apart from being backlit. Why might that be?

[@marzacdev]

Super readable in low light + long life time + cheap to buy and implement.

[@aristotlekumpis7095]

When is it shipping to the U.S.?

[@PeteMidi]

Ask Uli 😉

[@powermix24]

pre-ordered mine in November of 2023 from Sweetwater and got it last month. Sounds really good

[@ambientstereorecordings3528]

Fall of 2027.

[@dudfaz]

You can't just use the MSB of the NRPN as the CC?

[@PeteMidi]

I guess it's possible, I don't like NRPN that much, there are many unused cc numbers, and many cc have a two byte msb/lsb resolution, for no reason. So, it would have been easy to squeeze all essential sound parameters into cc space, even without bit masking....

[@dudfaz]

@@PeteMidi I guess NRPNs are great if you're using a daw and recording automations that you're sending from the same instrument. Anyway, no big deal to just refer to the msb list for cc numbers if you need them.

[@InRoB-Music]

How is the built quality? Mostly i keep myself off to behringer, because of the builtquality!

[@PeteMidi]

The overall built quality is just about ok in my opinion. The knobs are ok, not the endless encoder... , the display is borderline, the TRS sockets are definitely not HQ, audio quality is good.

[@intershumN.P.5357]

!!!!!✌️🙃❤

[@PeteMidi]

😊

[@DankePlace]

These are poorly priced in my country, the keys version has had a 20% $ drop and now is only $150 AUD more than the module. That's not good value for the module now, especially when you lose the albeit average PAT keybed.

[@PeteMidi]

I guess it will get cheaper after some time, as with the Pro-800. I don't have the space for another keyboard, so no alternative for me...

[@DankePlace]

@@PeteMidi I am the same with space, that's why I am very selective about what goes on my desk. I am trying to make room for other gear so something has to eventually go.

[@powermix24]

​@@PeteMidi Especially if you have a Hydrasynth 😊

[@MG53v8]

If the midi's cooked it'll drive me mad 😅

[@ArguZ72]

bUliheim

[@andivax]

No vst editor no buy

[@TheDavidPoole]

Why would you need a vst editor? Everything's there at your fingertips.

[@aounms]

You need a vst editor buy a vst 😁

[@beeftatare]

😂

[@rustboymusic]

in studio you can control it via midi cc and midi program changes... for vst editor you'll need to go for polybrute (12) ;-)

[@dharmaone77]

aka-v-c-f.blogspot.com/2024/02/behringer-ub-xa-editor.html

[@guiom77]

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