For All Mankind Alternate Timeline Explained | Changes 1983 - 1992

[@acerock013]

i love this show. it's "what could have been" is so plausible.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

eh not really, It's really gone full SciFi

[@acerock013]

...it was full Sci-Fi from day one. in fact i'd say this show is the closest expression to what science fiction is meant to be.@@jesusramirezromo2037

[@rc59191]

​@@jesusramirezromo2037 all the ship designs and plans are ones that they actually had drawn up at NASA like the Pathfinder for example.

[@m_6866]

@@jesusramirezromo2037 It is SciFi BECAUSE of the logical steps they put in the show. It is quite like the butterfly effect in which one man surviving a surgery could change history. None of the steps feels TOO far off. With story types like this, you have to pick a "resolution" in which changes are made and I think they timed their large changes quite well, in-step with the similarities of the timelines. Overall, solid 8.5/10 story for me.

[@iambear.6526]

@@jesusramirezromo2037 No shit it's "full scifi" it's literally a SciFi show

[@PetePeppers1]

Better late than never on this one. I'll try to get the next installment out when Season 4 is still fresh. What do you think is the most interesting change in the Alternate Timeline so far? What do you hope comes faster after the next time skip? ***Sorry for the weird cut at about 13 minutes in. I had to cut out the Maradona part because FIFA copyright claimed the video**** You can find Part 1 here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooSZdmOkjbmapac

[@hankthepatriot3733]

Did season 4 drop? 😳 (I'm off to the Google machine)

[@VoyagerCSL]

@@hankthepatriot3733 Season 4 drops Nov. 10th!

[@lrvogt1257]

The change I found most interesting and pleasing was the introduction of women into the space program early on. I found the advance of of nuclear energy interesting too. The fossil fuel industry was fighting that as much as they fight renewables now. Typically by riling up working people against each other instead of retraining for the new jobs. The attempt at space tourism was interesting as well... but the strength of the show is in the characters far more than the plot... which is pretty cool too.

[@LoveOfPugsley]

November 10th@@hankthepatriot3733

[@PetePeppers1]

I imagine the full trailer will be out soon. They dropped a fake website for Helios and some teasers www.welcometohelios.com/

[@hankthepatriot3733]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS SHOW!!! I'm a firm believer IF we kept NASA funded like we did in the 60's all these years we would've been on Mars in the 90's-2000's So much of our real world technology advancements are a direct result of space exploration and research! Just at a snails pace compared to the alt reality of this AMAZING show!

[@PetePeppers1]

It's fun to think about and there is a lot of potential once they move into the future.

[@TheSamsamdd34]

i 1000% agree with that , it just proves a 2 party system dos not help save the earth and we need massive shift to fix it

[@diamondogsamurai2226]

Who says we didn't continue to fund NASA or we haven't made it to Mars yet?

[@martinjrgensen8234]

Would also have been more peaceful as countries would look out into space, in order not to fall behind.

[@eli-eastwood3548]

Space programs were a proxy for arms race

[@universalcollective427]

For All Mankind is Excellent ACTUAL Science Fiction

[@songyani3992]

It also showed how a "healthy competetion" could make things for better, not only in the technological sense but also in a social sense. In this timeline aside from more advanced technology, we also got fairer social policies, less wars around the globe, like no Afghan War and Vietnam war was shortened by half a decade, and argubaly less extremism born from these wars

[@lrvogt1257]

I was leery about the alternate timeline idea at first but it's fantastic ... in both meanings. This is a terrific show. I'm looking forward to the next season.

[@PetePeppers1]

It hooked me from the beginning.

[@hankthepatriot3733]

Having watched the Challenger disaster live in elementary school, I'm glad it didn't "play out" the same in the show and because of that (seemingly minor change) has such HUGE repercussions (butterfly effect) for Margo Madison

[@troyfoster6004]

At 23:24 Kurt Cobain appears on a magazine called Celebrity Chronicle with the headline "All the Rage." In our real timeline, Eddie Vedder was on the cover of Time Magazine with the headline "All the Rage." Because of this subtle change, my guess is Kurt will survive in the alternate timeline.

[@JetCityNinja]

No mention of the fact that Dennis Quaid also played Gordon Cooper IRL in The Right Stuff?

[@andywellsglobaldomination]

Erm, if it's a role in a movie, how can it be IRL? Pretty sure Gordon Cooper was Gordon Cooper IRL.😅

[@billygarcia9885]

@@andywellsglobaldominationthe character Gordon Stevens in FAM is an amalgamation of Gordon Cooper and Gene Cernan - so the implication is that in FAM’s alternate timeline, The Right Stuff was likely never released in 1983, and instead Quaid would go on to star in Love in the Skies.

[@alvarocafe]

Finally some FAM content! Keep it up!

[@PetePeppers1]

Can't wait for Season 4

[@thomasbdl]

This video made me appreciate the writing of the show even more!

[@PetePeppers1]

good to hear

[@Gregorius421]

This show is so original and fascinating, it's one of a kind.

[@bjornjoseph]

As long as they don't game of thrones it😂

[@CarlosDeBernardMrAgapi]

that is what make that show perfect good research and good scrip with actors that make that happens. Kudos Pete!

[@LaurindaBellinger]

when the show aired and I saw the news clip of Jordan being drafted by the Trailblazers, it really hurt. I have fond memories of starting my career in the Chicago area early to mid 90s. The show has me thinking about my career choices and what I would have done differently. I'm looking forward to season 4. Thanks for this video.

[@dan_2584]

I freaking love this show. The first couple episodes with Ed I wasn’t sure about but…..my god it’s amazing.

[@DigitalNomad88]

Alternate History is very fascinating topic! What if scenarios with multiple different outcomes is like a new hobby for many of us sci fi and History aficionados!

[@captainsinclair7954]

One change you forgot was that the Space Shuttle Enterprise (which still got that name thanks to the Star Trek fandom’s write in campaign) was an active shuttle. It wasn’t just a test bed/paperweight.

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

I thought you guys always have a ship named Enterprise, named after an important ship for the Independence War.

[@Jamietheroadrunner]

Thank you Pete. Quality video, as always.

[@willychefmdogo718]

I am always hooked"" with each episode per week from season 1. Hey Bobs

[@isaganipalanca8803]

Finally! Thanks for this!!!!!

[@PetePeppers1]

no problem

[@hypervipergtx]

In the current content void I was so pumped to see a fresh Pete Peppers video on my homepage!

[@jesse7631]

Wow, I really need to watch this show. Thanks Pete!

[@JSK010]

Interesting that in the "For All Mankind" timeline lower launch costs lead to private enterprise in space while in our timeline its exactly the reverse.

[@KingOfMadCows]

This show feels like Ron Moore trying to make an unofficial prequel to Star Trek.

[@nikoladedic6623]

Or sequel to his BSG.

[@Iwanbezbrody]

Can't wait to see what will change compared to our timeline between seasons 3 and 4, there were some BIG events happening in that time period

[@PetePeppers1]

I hear you

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

It's all just " Dead Space "

[@JC-hq7iu]

It’s already out. Apple TV extras

[@edgarddeortega1789]

Just saw the 2nd chapter and I am already hooked. What a great show.

[@cbspock1701]

I need to do a re-watch before the new season

[@reginaldtilley8309]

Great recap video Pete!!!

[@ZachariahWiedeman]

I love how if you read some of the news articles, they never altered the text - just the headline - so the article isn't about what's happening in the show, but rather is about current events in our timeline.

[@Jogeta5]

Fortunately that's fixed in the season 4 newsreel.

[@ZachariahWiedeman]

@@Jogeta5 Yeah, I haven't seen any mistakes like that in Season 4. Maybe someone was paying attention to me teasing them on Twitter with a bunch of screenshots from Season 3. 😉😅

[@davecoz4227]

lovely vid, thank you

[@Arbee1000]

For All Mankind doesn't get enough hype! It barely gets a blip of the attention as other Apple TV+ shows like Ted Lasso, Severance, The Morning Show, Silo. FAMK is far superior to all of those (okay maybe it's neck and neck with Severance).

[@TheGuitarHistorian]

Of course Dennis Quaid would’ve played Gordo. He played him in “The Right Stuff.”

[@TheDesktopOrbinaut]

The Moonlab from 19:45 is the same exact copy of the Lunar Gateway that will be placed around lunar NRHO by 2025 in our timeline. The question of why they did not omit the Orion MPCV from the drawing for FAM is uncertain though

[@johnmitchell4043]

about dam time!!! thank you

[@tokyosmash]

Jordan getting drafted to the Trailblazers was a nice touch

[@n8thal718]

Awesome... thxs💛

[@PetePeppers1]

You're welcome

[@lgoamity]

Getting Ready for the Alt 2000's

[@zsewqthewolf1194]

And I hope they show newgrounds in this world

[@Raiders1917]

I have not seen Season 4 yet, nor all of 3, but so far, the first two Seasons are by far the best. With the Stevens the show is just at its best.

[@peterfromaustria724]

For all mankind is simply one of the best shows out there, currently watching it again from season 1 … it’s sad that it’s buried and under the radar on Apple+

[@ChrundleTGreat]

I LOVE this show! Having lived through a lot of the time periods that this takes place makes me wonder what could’ve been. I wish we were more driven as a nation to explore and colonize our solar system.

[@WhatsUpGazpacho]

Nice But I'll probably never get Apple TV

[@jimgrif5998]

I never heard of this show until today. I have always contended this premiss to be true.

[@padawanmage71]

Awesome summation. Love 'What If?' stories and this one really sells. With things as they are now, makes one wonder....

[@JinKee]

I really wish the cosmonaut who caught fire in their suit had been named Komarov in honor of the real cosmonaut who burned up when Soyuz 1 crashed.

[@MrCateagle]

Given that ASTP led to both the USSR and USA developing the CBMS (Common Birthing Module System) used on later Russian and US spacecraft as well as docking modules on the ISS, I have to wonder if such exists in this universe.

[@aoki6332]

yeah the exact same thing happens in the Show the only difference in the Mission was the Crew and the context behind but most of it is the same

[@NolanEgbert]

The Beatles reunion taking place in 1987 seems like a timeline change of Pink Floyd’s reunion tour taking place in that year in our timeline. Maybe it’s Roger Waters who dies in the FAM timeline instead of Lennon

[@ZblockWoW]

For All Mankind is the most underrated show of the last 10 years… maybe more. 😮

[@101spacecase]

I've not found my self yelling or clapping at the screen in a long time Bravo to people who worked on this show.

[@waris9596]

I am counting on you pete!

[@davewanamaker3690]

Wow! I never heard of this show and now I must see it. This is my type of show-alternate timelines. Where do I watch?

[@albertomartinez8144]

I can’t wait for you to changes from season 3 to season 4.

[@PetePeppers1]

can't wait to work on it

[@limabravo6065]

People have access to pretty much any information they might want. Whether you can understand what you're reading or watching is one thing but a lot of science information that was kind of obscure pre internet is now commonplace. So any science fiction needs to work hard to ensure its not space wizards, laser swords, and faster than light hand wavey tech. This show and the expanse are the standard by which anything upcoming should be judged

[@kevinbourke1847]

11:18 Éamon de Valera is dead in 1975 (president in 25 June 1959 - 24 June 1973)

[@JustSumGuy01]

Can't wait for what changes in the timeline we see from 92 to 03

[@stdesy]

He3 would be the best fusion. Since it emits energy in the form of charged particles, you can use a magnetic field to directly capture energy off the reaction without mucking about with a bunch of junk like massive turbines. Also no neutron activation so there isn’t really waste from stuff becoming radioactive or breaking down. Unfortunately it’s way harder to do than even the easiest fusion which we can barely do anyway

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

they are other techno stuff they could try

[@Linterna001]

Me after seeing how amazing that timeline is: Let me in! Let me iiiiiiiiiiiiin!

[@ACS2]

For me this show is an 8/10. What lower the rating is those little continuity errors that can be easily fix in post-production (dates, events and names). People get mad at writing or setting. For me that is flawless.

[@Insomniac_tv]

For some odd reason this timeline is better then our current one lmao

[@fyae]

so should i watch this before or after s3?

[@student702]

Extremely well done! The reliance on fossil fuels is a sad thing.

[@concernedcitizens4110]

I really love this show and I do prefer to live in this timeline rather than the real timeline we’re currently living. Sure the Soviet Union and its Warsaw pact as well as its satellite states still exist. I presume they’re also allied with China thus the Sino Soviet split doesn’t exist. But this show shows a deepening cooperation between the East and West which created a much better world without climate change effects.

[@wisdomleader85]

There seem to be at least a few historical events in the show that they failed to elaborate or even mention. The first event is that the USSR withdrew their troops from the Afghan border. In our timeline, the Soviets eventually decided to invade because Brezhnev was infuriated by how Hafizulla Amin's radical policies destabilized Afghanistan, especially after he seized power by taking out the previous communist leader Taraki. Given the Brezhnev administration's pattern of decisions and the importance of Afghanistan in Soviet geopolitics, it would very likely still happen in the alternate timeline, although it would be possible that the Soviets could withdraw the troops as early as 1985. The second event is the Tiananmen Square incident. It indirectly led to the Eastern European revolution in 1989, when Gorbachev declined to let Soviet troops stationed in East Germany and other East European countries intervene with the local protests, because he didn't want "the red square to become the Tiananmen Square". I suppose the show did not mention the incident due to the concern that the Chinese government would ban the show in China if they did?

[@pillepolle3122]

i hated the boring drama part (always skipped it) but the scenes in space are great. they should have focused more on the space scenes and not the relations between so many characters who died anyway.

[@danilo.castelli]

This show is so great.

[@Mixppmix]

I wish I could be born to this timeline... on Mars in the 90' !!!

[@Orphoid]

11:27 wait do they show her blowing up in the show?

[@RichReviews2]

So is there going to be a reaction video to the trailer.

[@stephendean2896]

Donna Rice Dam I’m old if I remember who bought down Gary Hart

[@UsefulLeaf]

Season 4 was announced!!!

[@PetePeppers1]

Trailer is out now x.com/PetePeppers/status/1712615964951584940?s=20

[@davidcarter2720]

I loved this show ... for one season. By the end of season two, it was off the rails - it's awesome inspiration replaced with moronic soap opera plot lines and a prioritization of cast preservation vs. continuing to aggressively move it's storyline of human advancement/discovery. By the 90's (it's second and third seasons), we'd have an entirely new cast playing the new talent that would have been brought to bear to take on the demanding challenges of extended space flight and space habitation. But we're left with the wife of a Gemini/Apollo astronaut buggering the son of another - and the both of them advancing through hilarious career growth pathways to the point they have critically important roles in the exploration of mars and beyond - along with the aforementioned Gemini/Apollo astronaut who, at something like 60 years of age leads a pioneering Mars mission nearly 30 years later (WITH the astronaut's son that his wife buggered). And those aren't the most ridiculous plot lines/characters. Awful waste of a GREAT idea.

[@crazyaces4042]

yes

[@Capybara_Productions]

Now my question is… did the Bulls get Sam Bowie💀

[@Carlos_AM]

19:46 the Onion news?

[@waris9596]

Any suggestion on what to see next...

[@hankthepatriot3733]

I LOVE how the worlds reliance on fossil fuels in the alt timeline is almost non existent... so many wars, climate, social & economic problems would be greatly diminished... only "what if" 🤔

[@limabravo6065]

Haha making a comment like this on a device whoes development and indeed all of our technology are based on petroleum is kinda funny

[@hankthepatriot3733]

@@limabravo6065 your reading comprehension is EXTREMELY funny 🤣

[@limabravo6065]

@@hankthepatriot3733 yeah I comprehend that you seem like someone just parroting back "oil bad" rhetoric. Someone who fundamentally does not understand that everything you use every day is either powered by or is in some way produced from petro chemicals. And even if we automatically tomorrow stopped using all fossil fuels for energy production we'd still be drilling for it because it serves as the base material for, as I said, fucking everything, from toothpaste, the paint on your car, the goop you might put on a mild burn, to the very device your reading this on etc etc.... Envisioning or portraying a world that doesn't need fossil fuels is about as realistic as portraying one with warp drives

[@flameguy3416]

Which is why this show is Sci-Fi

[@JavaJunky]

What is the link to Part 1?

[@PetePeppers1]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooSZdmOkjbmapac

[@caleb--]

This show relies on magic soil theory

[@donnie7013]

9:49 literally 1984

[@bangpow6160]

Did anything happen with the Panama Canal? Like does the US control it They just seem to forgot about that subplot in season 2

[@Dr.Kananga]

A very good show, I wish they didn't interrupt the suspension of disbelief in some episodes stretching out and pushing some political and social ideologies.

[@sr7129]

The change I find least believable is that the US Navy would let the Soviets get close to Panama

[@nikoladedic6623]

The news broadcast says they had assembled outside Colombia. Meaning they probably went the more souther route.

[@javiermoretti1825]

Great choice for the Mexican president: "Verdugo" means "thug" in Spanish.

[@3.6_roentgen]

Man, we really do live in the bad future.

[@flameguy3416]

It'll continue to be bad if more people become nihilistic

[@subman721]

I was living in Mexico when Carlos Salinas de Gortari was elected, there were no protests.

[@PHDiaz-vv7yo]

Very “timely” S4 drops in t minus 3 weeks

[@rhettshanley8712]

I wish I had apple tv

[@iamgermane]

What happened? Nixon canceled the planned space station in Space. The Space Shuttle had no place to go! The International Space Station was what supposed to have been built in the 1970s.

[@maxfederman9291]

DMail was real - it was DARPA mail. In the series, the internet was not opened up to civilian and commercial use like it was in reality.

[@bigmackinlittleengland]

> D-Mail Steins;gate reference

[@bjornjoseph]

Imagine where we could've been

[@iamgermane]

Do you know they discovered a HUGE deposit of lithium in Utah/Oregon?

[@WhoIsOlton]

i would have rather seen this on the 9th of nov... now its just a reminder to be patient..

[@PetePeppers1]

I imagine a full trailer is coming soon

[@56jklove]

What do u think happens to Michael Jackson and his career in this timeline. Maybe purple rain becomes the best selling album of all time. Lol

[@jackbrown8052]

One would think with all the extraterrestrial space vehicles and extraterrestrials the US is supposed to have American technology would be light years ahead of all other nations.

[@AhJeezEnt]

Gary Hart is the president we needed, but never got due to the Donna Rice scandal smh

[@crazyaces4042]

I find it interesting that so many call this show an alternate timeline or what could've been type show. I don't agree. We all know most of this would've never happened as humans are humans no matter what. To me, it's more of a mix of reality and science fiction and yes science fiction does seem to occasionally end up being reality, however, not in this case. I do love the show with a couple of exceptions like the Danny Karen thing! I mean come on already there was so much more content they could've used instead of that. Also the constant Ellen drama! The USA still hasn't elected a female president which is a real shame as society just doesn't seem to want to allow a woman to get that far --yet. My opinions of course and we all have them. I've been around a long time and I see so many troll/idiot posts about "never went to the moon" b.s. and it infuriates me although I know that's what they want... attention. I was very young but these 60's were the space age and I was there. I remember my friend in about 1969 or so saying that she heard the moon landing was fake. I was very young and didn't really understand the whole moon landing thing but I remember to this day my young friend talking about it. It is NOT a new thought but we the people in the real world of course know it DID happen. Had to say it.. lol. AppleTVplus just jacked up their monthly charge so I cancelled it. It was just way too much and especially considering the lack of more content. They have a few shows that are good or interesting but not near enough. I wish they'd all stop jacking up prices on streaming channels!

[@ColtsGuy]

What about the fact Russia is in Cuba. Since no JFK then the Cuban missile crisis never happens. This was one I caught 😅

[@Otterdisappointment]

Really all it took was the Soviets actually doing their own moon landing the day after us and we’d be in the same timeline as ours with all the benefits of that one although right out the gate I’d chop electric cars and just keep drilling

[@THatMex1CaNGuY]

Did chernobyl still happen?

[@AstroAvenger]

One of my favorite shows, but it gets less interesting the more sci-fi they make it.

[@lgoamity]

When you say "Sci-Fi"... What exactly do you mean? Say for example the Alt Versions of Apollo 24 and 25 (We didn't have those) in the Show... Sure there is probably a fair amount of dramatic license (Kind of like the Movie "Gravity", which itself could be considered an Alt-Future History)? But is that "Sci-Fi"? This isn't Star Trek with "Sci-Fi" Transporters, Communicators, or Warp Drives and Alien Life that are well beyond our reach today (not to mention the next 100-300 years). What is "happenings" in this Alt Reality "could" happen...

[@johnroscoe2406]

Little of this is "sci-fi." A lot of it is proven possible. The biggest stretch is cold fusion, and even that isn't "sci-fi."

[@DGPPhysics]

I need an interdimetional Machine to move to this parallel universe it’s much cool there that this boring dimension we live on.