[Twin Peaks] Top Theories Season 3 | The Return Finale Theories Explained

Twin Peaks season 3 top theories on what happened explained. Making sense of what happened in Twin Peaks the Return.
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The Twin Peaks season 3 finale was not a cut and dry ending that tied up all the plot lines in nice easy to understand fashion. In fact the Return of Twin Peaks has led many to question what really happened at the end of the show's run on Showtime. This video looks at the most popular theories about what the ending of Twin Peaks season 3 might of meant, and explains the theories the best we can.
The open-ended nature of the third season of Twin Peak's ending leaves plenty of room to think and discuss the different imagery and symbolism behind the choices David Lynch and Mark Frost made while writing the Return. We think it's great that there is no right way to explain what happened in Twin Peaks, but love to think about that question just the same. The Twin Peaks season 3 theories have been very interesting, and give different explanations as to what happened to Agent Dale Cooper and Laura Palmer in the end.
If you're having trouble understanding what happened at the end of Twin Peaks try these theories on for size. If you find one you like expand on it and make it your own. We'll probably never know exactly what David Lynch and Mark Frost had in mind when they set out to bring us season 3 of Twin Peaks which has become known as the Return, but we can make our best guesses based on the hints we saw in the show. Agent Cooper, Laura Palmer, Audrey Horne, the Twin Peak's seriff's department, Judy, Phillip Jeffries, Gordon Cole, and Albert Rosenfield all play a part in bringing us this mystery.
Tell us in the comments of this video what your favorite theories for Twin Peaks season 3 are. Let us know what hidden meaning you think Lynch and Frost wove into Twin Peaks s3 part 17 and part 18, which make up the Return's season finale. Do you think our theories are close? Do you think we will every truly understand what happened in Twin Peaks season 3? Were you able to make sense of the season finale on your own?
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[@rini6]

I know he was 91 years old but losing Harry Dean Stanton was still a shock. He seemed so vital and full of life in The Return and I loved his music. He was one of the characters that formed the warm heart of the show.

[@PetePeppers1]

+Irene Haralabatos he was a hero by any definition

[@nenaradicevic8079]

Paris Texas his epic role

[@beinoauph2735]

Too true

[@LionMan98]

The loop of Laura screaming gives me the creeps.

[@raulmacias3940]

There is nothing to fear but fear itself

[@michaellaw5322]

@@raulmacias3940 yeah but fear is terrifying

[@TheSomniloquy]

Although dreams are important to Lynch's work, I don't think at all it is as simple as a "it was all a dream" scenario. That is too cliche for Lynch.

[@tylerskiss]

Exactly. The problem with the "...it was all a dream" theory is you can never fully disprove it. It seems like the lazy solution created by people who don't want to bother thinking too much. A little secret: the show Lost actually had a very distinct plot those first 3 seasons that many writers were working towards, but the network put the pressure on, especially toward the end, and prompted the show's creators to go with "the safest bet" and the top two theories were a- the character was dead and b- it was all a dream. They actually went with a hybrid of the two. Along with "I have amnesia" and "the antagonist is a fictional person created by the protagonist", "...it was all a dream" is the laziest writing cliche around.

[@jjjtccc]

There's another theory, I believe, that whenever Cooper appears without his FBI pin, that is an indication it's a dream (which would imply, I think, that anything related to the non-pin story line, such as Cole saying: "Dougie is Cooper?!", is also part of a dream. That still leaves parts of season 3 that are not a dream. This is different from a "It was all a dream" theory. (I guess you could call it "It was mostly a dream" theory.) I'm not sure I buy it, but I'm pondering it.

[@alexanderschmidt8520]

I was going to mention that one too. It also implies that Cooper only really leaves the Black Lodge in Part 18 when he meets Diane at the "curtain call" at Glastonbury Grove. I am not sure whether that really solves it all but I do think, that the FBI pin must be of MAJOR significance - it's clearly done on purpose that it's NOT there in the very first scene with the Fireman in Episode 1, then it is on him in all Lodge-scenes prior to his going through the socket after which it disappear only to reappear after the overlay of Cooper's face in Episode 17!

[@jjjtccc]

"only to reappear after the overlay of Cooper's face in Episode 17!" That's right. And according to my viewing of 17 a few days ago, the pin appears on back Cooper's suit when he, Gordon, and Diane materialize at the Great Northern, right before Cooper opens the door to his old room (at which point, if I recall correctly, Mike leads him to Jeffries/teapot, etc.). The question then arises: If Cooper is no longer dreaming in this Great Northern scene, how the hell did he get there and why are Gordon and Diane with him? Of course, Gordon and Diane were with him just before in the (according to the dream theory) dream about the TP sheriff's office. This is not making sense to me. So perhaps the dream theory, appealing as it might be, doesn't quite work. You are right though, IMO - the pin vs no-pin scenes are key (a deliberate clue by Lynch) to something important. All we need do now is answer: "key to what!?". That one, I'm afraid, might be harder than solving a Rubik's cube.

[@TheColourCyan]

There's a pretty good one that involves a lot of mental legwork I saw a while back. It still suffers from the cliche, necessarily, but it has its own self contained story. Can't remember all the details, but essentially it was based on the idea that Coop is the positive aspects of some "real" person who has done something terrible to a woman in his life - represented through Laura, Caroline, Annie, Naido and Diane, depending on how far his subconscious has parsed the events. Good Coop is what he wishes he did, his remorse for his actions and trying to fix the suffering he brought about. Mr C is the opposite - his MO (MODUS OPERANDI!) is to cause the pain, e.g. raping Audrey and Diane, murdering without remorse bookended with a generally cold and deceptive nature. He's separated his negative qualities in to a character that his better nature fights. The more abstract the show gets, the more pure the combination of his two natures becomes and the closer he finally gets to reconciliation with himself. For example, in episode 18 we see "Richard" Coop "consensually raping" (I don't know how else to say this) "Linda" Diane, coupling the good nature of Coop with Mr C. I'm not sure if I subscribe to it but it's interesting to think about, and it makes the Mauve Zone bits in episode 3 make a lot more sense - there's a reddit post about it I can try finding if anyone's interested, but the gist is that the mauve zone scene describes behaviour of the victims (Naido) of abuse very closely. I've probably butchered it but it's a general outline.

[@ShinySephiroth1]

Cooper: Do you believe in the soul? Hawk: Several. Cooper: More than one? Hawk: Blackfoot legend. Waking souls that give life to the mind and the body. A dream soul that wanders. Cooper: Dream souls... where do they wander? Hawk: Faraway places. The land of the dead. Cooper: Is that where Laura is? Hawk: Laura's in the ground, Agent Cooper. That's the only thing I'm sure of.

[@GabrielGoopar]

what about Audrey?

[@ShinySephiroth1]

Gabriel Goopar how's Annie?

[@batata_dog]

what year is this?

[@herrklamm1454]

Who put the fish in the percolator?

[@jjjtccc]

"Hawk: Faraway places. The land of the dead." Fireman to Cooper: "You are far a-way". Is the Cooper that is meeting with the Fireman a dream soul? (FYI, I'm calling it, for now, an astral projection.)

[@bartconnelly6926]

Salvador Dali // "One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we call reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams."

[@Wolfen443]

I think The Matrix approached that angle well, the same as Dark City. So, if what is really real is not important but the illusion embraced by someone, where does that leave reality?.

[@MetalTrenches]

Syncers are the flat earthers of the Twin Peaks community

[@PetePeppers1]

Haha.

[@DaleCooper119]

Metal Trenches mNo shit. I was just thinking the same thing. Fuck off with the syncing.

[@trutwijd]

hahaha but the earth IS flat! :P

[@trutwijd]

I haven't been to the other side. :(

[@arnemyggen]

They gave up on the shining and moved on to twin peaks

[@1path0gen1]

- In Part 2, Laura's spirit form says: "I am dead, yet I live". She means it literally: her living physical form and her spirit form both exist simultaniously now, she's in a Schroedinger's cat position. - She screams and disappears, which means she departs to posess her own human form that we see screaming at the end of Part 18. White horse appears, signifying Judy's presence. - After all his adventures, Cooper prevents Laura's physical form's destruction at the end of Part 17. The moment Laura is supposed to get murdered, she dies and not dies simultaneously, so her spirit form is born and departs to the Black Lodge, although her physical body is still unharmed. - A living body without a spirit is an impossible thing, therefore Laura's physical form gets kicked out in a place beyond space and time. - Cooper and Diane travel together to a very special portal. It is the portal that leads nowhere, it has a place beyond space and time on the other end. Cooper is confused because he has never seen such a thing before. - Cooper and Diane go beyond space and time together and have sex there. Laura's living, but spiritless physical form is still somewhere there, in the impossible non-universe for impossible things. - As the sex scene goes, an entirely new world is being created/dreamed around them from scratch. Everything that is stuck beyond space and time is being rewritten into the new context and receives a new personality. - Cooper receives Richard's personality, Diane receives Linda's personality, Laura's spiritless body receives Carrie Page's personality. The point is, Laura's body has at least some sort of personality now, so it can exist in a physical univese. - As Carrie Page screams at the end of Part 18, she is being posessed by her own spirit form, that is Laura Palmer's spirit form from Part 2. Her Schroedinger's state is complete, she's both alive and dead at the same time now. - That means, she is essentially indestructable now. She can't die, because what is dead can't die, but at the same time she is alive. It was foreshadowed in the scene where Sarah/Judy unsuccessfully tried to destroy Laura's photo. - Laura Palmer in her new Schroedinger state is a perfect vessel to contain Judy. The fact Laura was going to offer herself as a vessel was foreshadowed in Part 2, when Laura "unlocked" her face, just like Sarah, another vessel for Judy, did at some point. - Two birds (Judy and Laura's spirit form) are locked inside one cage (C(arry P)age's/Laura's physical body) in the end - the true meaning of "two birds with one stone". - Perhaps, Laura is going to be eternal now, but has to eternally contain Judy inside herself. She is the gifted and the damned one at the same time, like she has always been.

[@jjjtccc]

Very creative, and quite feasible, IMO. It's a rather mind-blowing theory (fitting for TPrT, of course); and I'm not seeing any logical flaws in it - at least on first reading. I'm not the one to do it, but someone who is collecting theories should, IMO, (and with your permission) "publish" this one - in a youtube video, a vlog, a blog, an article, or whatever - somewhere quite visible.

[@1path0gen1]

Thanks! Everyone is free to post it wherever, I guess :D After a while, I think there's an alternative take on this scenario if you speculate a bit more. It seems Laura and Cooper conspired something together. What if Laura tricked other spirits and unleashed Judy on the Black Lodge instead of containing her, since we see the white horse already arriving in Part 2? In this case, Laura probably whispered to Cooper she was about to destroy the place, that's why he was shocked. Why would she do that? Well, that's simple: the Black Lodge is a passage between the spirit world and the world of the living. If it collapses, it'll become much harder for spirits to reach people and toy with them...

[@starchygoblin9859]

I just finished watching the show tonight and this is absolutely brilliant

[@jdoodah]

Great analysis! What’s most impressive to me is how deep this stay goes, but it’s crazy Frost and Lynch foreshadowed so many vital parts of the return. If the show wasn’t revived 25 years later (a great example) we would never have known how deep the rabbit hole goes. I feel like they had most of the returns plot in mind while making the first 2 seasons. I love how strange the return was and the endless theories surrounding it. I enjoyed Frost’s books, tying the show into Native American history, project blue book etc. and lynch incorporated loads of mystic, esoteric, religious symbols and themes beautifully.

[@DrRocketLauncher]

This is probably the best Twin Peaks content on YT.

[@PetePeppers1]

Thanks, glad you like it.

[@liquidrainbowchannel]

i agree

[@peterwhite7475]

So, here's my theory: Cooper and the Giant have a plan, two birds with one stone. I think the "two birds" is 1. saving Laura from dying and 2. confronting Judy and at least kicking her our of Sarah Palmer and Twin Peaks. I think both of these were actually accomplished, though Cooper seemed mystified by how it happened. When Cooper was in 1989, leading Laura through the woods, he kept her from dying. He was, I think, leading her to the portal to the white lodge (where Bad Coop went earlier, and where Andy et al. found Naido even earlier)--that is, where the Giant lives. Cooper said he was taking her "home" and we saw her born as a golden bubble in the white lodge earlier, and she may have gone there with the angels after she died in Fire Walk With Me. So that could be her home. But she gets whisked away before that, presumably to be disappeared from Twin Peaks and reappeared in Odessa as Carrie Page. Maybe this is like when Cooper went to Las Vegas as Dougie--that is, maybe this is why Carrie is oblivious of Laura and yet has distant memories (like showing recognition to the names Sarah and Leland, the white horse on the mantle? definitely when she hears her mother's voice at the end). If Cooper was leading Laura to the White Lodge why wasn't he perturbed that she vanished first before getting to the portal? He seems to have taken it in stride, he ends up back in 2014 and sets out to execute the plan as if everything is one track (Leland said "Find Laura" in the Red Room and at this point, it's also true he didn't kill anybody). It is an actual plan, because the Giant led Cooper there with clues--430, with the appearance of Judy's Diner, with Richard and Linda, with Cooper's odd knowledge of a 2nd waitress, with the 6 on the telephone pole at Carrie's house (which was the same telephone pole and white pickett fence that Andy saw in the White Lodge [the Giant knows where Carrie/Laura is]), and the white horse on her mantle. Also, he doesn't get too perturbed when Carrie doesn't know Laura's name nor where Twin Peaks is (DC? she asks). Anyway, Cooper probably wishes she knew she was Laura (just like we wanted Dougie to wake up, earlier), but he doesn't seem the least put off from the plan when she doesn't. So off they go to Twin Peaks, which looks a bit different. The long car ride is an important device, both to stress these two folks alone on the mission and to build our anxiety). The RR and is closed for the night, for instance. Carrie/Laura doesn't recognize the house. Laura disappeared (rather than dying) and has been gone for 25 years. Now I can't imagine Cooper thinks he is just producing a happy reunion between daughter and mother (e.g., like his own reunion with Diane) because Sarah must still have Judy inside--her daughter was abused, her husband died, and then her daughter vanished (to Carrie) or died (original story line), so she's just as bad off AND she was always a bit crazy. If the frogmoth crawled into her mouth after the atomic bomb, then she's always been Judy--and this means that Bob was then sent to the Palmer family by design, rather than by random chance. As Bob was born by the atomic bomb, so even then Laura (she was born in a golden globe there) was his sworn enemy and he went there to the Palmer family specifically to kill her. So he must be there to confront Judy. Judy/Sarah must be scared and frantic, something that is increased when she can smash the frame but not the picture of Laura (does she know Laura escaped death and will be coming to confront her?). But why does Cooper walk up to the house so casually? Well, perhaps, just like the Giant had things under control with Bob (Freddy and his glove) so too maybe the Giant has a plan for Sarah/Judy should she try to open her face and bite him in the neck like the guy at the bar. Anyway, it is a bit mysterious that he walks up so casually to the house. But he does have the Giant's own golden orb, Laura, with him. The names of the owners are the same as the old lady who is part of the Room Above the Convenience Store folks (Tremond, Calfont), suggesting they are there from the Black Lodge to keep Cooper from finding Sarah, but then Laura/Carrie's spirit seems to waken Sarah in the house, Sarah calls out like on the morning after Laura died, and this causes the old Laura to leak into Carrie and she screams. The explosion and house lights going out must mean the mission to get rid of Judy worked, and now maybe Laura wakes up just like Dougie/Cooper woke up earlier. Remember Dougie liked the smell of coffee, badges, guns, and pie, so some of Cooper was lurking there for that situation as well.

[@jjjtccc]

Revisiting these comments after a couple weeks, I just read your post - your ideas are pretty much in agreement with what I think happened, although, to me, there is still a lot of mystery (or unanswered questions) remaining. You said: "If Cooper was leading Laura to the White Lodge why wasn't he perturbed that she vanished first before getting to the portal?" I think he was at least somewhat perturbed - the look on his face, to me, was one of worry and deep concern; but he wasn't truly surprised, and perhaps that was because the giant had somehow prepared him ("Listen to the sounds.") for something to go "wrong" here. Also, of course, he had (what must have been) a contingency plan if he fails to get Laura "home": "430. Richard and Linda. Two birds with one stone." (I think Cooper has gained a good bit of knowledge and confidence from hanging out with the Fireman, but, IMO, it is only partial. I think he's way out of his league on this mission [which, I suppose, makes him very, very brave]. I think the Fireman, on the other hand, sees everything that happens re. Cooper's "mission" and is surprised by none of it. One thing, which is probably obvious, that leads me to believe Cooper is out of his league is the fact that he says, mystified: "What year is this?" at the very end of the show.) About Carrie's world: It is a very strange world - Judy has a restaurant, Cooper's motel changes from an old-style one (from the 70s?, 80s?, 90s?) to a more modern one overnight and his car changes; and he seems to be named Richard now and Diane has become Linda - although he still refers to himself as Dale Cooper, FBI agent. (Even Cooper behaves uncharacteristically carelessly when he drops 3 guns into a vat of hot oil.) The road trip to Twin Peaks is very dark (not, IMO, just because it's night time; and that road trip is long enough such that Cooper and Carrie/Laura would have seen a good amount of sunlight/daytime - where was the day?) and lacking in highlights. (They are followed ominously by a mysterious [ghost-like, I would say] car that, although it eventually passes them, seems to symbolize mystery and danger.) And Twin Peaks is different - the RR diner is different and the feel of the town is dark (again, not just because it's night) and incomplete. This appears to be depicting an alternate reality, alternate universe, or a strange realm of some kind, even though it has a "Odessa, TX", a "Twin Peaks, WA", gas stations, and other entities/things/places that occur in our (or, more accurately, the regular Twin Peaksean) world. There is a theory (can't remember if this video mentions it) that this world is simply one that was created as a trap to catch or destroy Judy; and another one that Judy created this world (to imprison Laura/Carrie? to trap Cooper? I can't remember, the reason given, actually). I'm not sure what it is, but it does seem to be a different world or realm than the regular TP world. You said: ""...Sarah calls out like on the morning after Laura died, and this causes the old Laura to leak into Carrie and she screams." Thanks for bringing that up. I don't think I had this thought before, but when I read this I realized that this scream could still have happened in the altered reality caused by Cooper saving Laura. Laura disappeared, screaming, right after she was "saved", so she would have been missing on this same morning even though she didn't die. Thus Sarah might have called out in the same way, since either way, Laura had disappeared (and it's likely, IMO, that Sarah's psychic abilities had led her to suspect something was wrong with respect to Laura - missing for a long time [forever?] is pretty damn close, from a mother's point of view, to one's daughter dying). So in this new reality with Laura alive but gone, Sarah, I suppose still called out and, as you describe, Carrie/Laura heard it and sort of woke up, screamed and destroyed - what? Judy, the house, this entire alternate realm/universe? IMO, who knows? You said at this point that the mission to thwart-or-destroy-or-defeat Judy worked. Perhaps it did. But (as the scream implies) I don't think this is necessarily a happy ending, nor is it necessarily a depressing ending. To me, it's simply a dark and mysterious ending in which we don't know if Laura or Cooper (or Diane, Cole, et al) are OK; we don't really know what happened with "Judy"; we don't know if the Fireman was satisfied with the outcome. We don't know squat. In other words, it's a David Lynch production. I have a theory that Laura disappeared not because Judy interfered, but because Cooper's saving of Laura had altered the timeline and reality and, although this was allowed (by whom? the forces that be?) to happen, what Cooper wanted (Laura going "home") couldn't be allowed. To put things back into balance, Laura had to be whisked off, screaming, to "Odessa", or wherever she went. This is perhaps as good a place as any to bring up that Cole saying he met with Cooper a long time ago (when?) and they had come up with a plan to deal with Judy seems to confuse people quite a bit. How could Cooper have met with Cole long ago when he was helpless and trapped in the black lodge? But we need to remember that the realm in which Cooper has been hanging out (red-room, black-lodge, white lodge, etc.) is timeless or beyond time (which is what allows Cooper to "time travel"), so he could have traveled back in time at any point (after gaining the necessary knowledge from Mike, the Fireman, and/or who-knows-what) and purposefully met with Gordon to bring him in on the plan (to whatever extent Gordon would be able to understand and contribute to the plan). In other words, I think the Cooper who met with Gordon long ago was not the same Cooper who had recently been trapped in the black-lodge/red-room. And we also need to remember that Cooper and Gordon could have come up with this plan without meeting physically - for example in a (most likely Gordon's) dream, or in another realm or dimension, or perhaps simply via astral projection. A couple other things to ponder, IMO: The point is made 2 or 3 times that "we live inside a dream". What does this mean, exactly? (assuming exactness is possible in an appropriate answer to this question) (I think one implied meaning, but probably not the only one, is that this "real" world is very dream-like and what we tend to think as reality is not actually real.) Also, the fact that Cooper is wearing his FBI pin while in the red-room/lodge and while he is in Carrie's "world" and the rest of the time he is not wearing it has to mean something, or be a clue to something. I've not yet figured out what. Final thought (WARNING: Mulholland Dr spoiler): It's going to take me a long, long time, if I ever do, to figure out what is implied by (even if I don't figure out what she is saying) Laura (yet again) whispering into Cooper's ear at the end. Perhaps this is just a back reference, similar to the ending of Mulholland Dr where, after she has shot herself in the head, Diane is seen happy and smiling, referring to her (or Betty, or Diane's idealized visualization of herself) just arriving in Hollywood, full up hope and enthusiasm. I think it's different than the ending of Mulholland Dr, though - darker and more mysterious. And, who knows, perhaps it makes a season 4 (or season 2 of TPtR) necessary. Wishful thinking, perhaps.

[@georgeskhalil4153]

Good one

[@BlindBison]

Bump

[@rini6]

The last theory makes the most sense. I don't buy the others. And always remember, Lynch purposely leaves things open ended. He does not tie everything up with a pretty bow. That is because we are the dreamer.

[@affalaffaa]

I love that David Lynch has just done what he wanted then left it to everyone to put their own theories as to what it all means. A true work of art, everyones theories could be right or not, to Lynch it doesn't matter. It's what you want it to be. What a wonderful 25 plus years. Thank you David and Mark.

[@iain2080]

RIP H.D.S

[@mikepelosi9877]

I think that the term "dreamer" gets taken a bit too literal in some cases. I think dreamer has always meant someone with supernatural ties to the lodges / supernatural. Clearly, Cooper is a dreamer, as is Laura. Cole is a dreamer, too. I think the show had elements of time displacement (map displacement) all over the place: Big Ed being stuck in the past, time freezing and then overlaying itself after BOB is defeated, the final Red Room sequence where Cooper exits with Diane, and, of course, Cooper coming out as Dougie. Cooper as the dreamer enters the alternate reality and maintains his consciousness although it's clear he's losing it. Diane isn't a dreamer and assumes the role of Linda. Laura is a dreamer and, at the end, remembers her past. Andy is probably a dreamer, too, as the Fireman chose the most incompetent Twin Peaks Sheriff to ensure Diane's safety. Though I have no evidence whatsoever, just a gut instinct, I feel that the overarching theme of this season is remembering who you are. It's a fundamental midlife crisis all adults face. Supernatural elements make it exciting. All the characters are placed in conflict when they forget who they are, even if it's a byproduct of supernatural elements / Judy. The kid watching the glass for the Experiment : totally forgets that his role is to watch the box. When he fails, he dies. Mr. C: forgets that, after 25 years, it's a wrap. Meets his demise as a doppelganger and BOB is destroyed in the process. Big Ed: Weird time sequence where it's clear he's trapped in some ways. Its not until this is broken does he approach Norma / have an amicable breakup with Nadine. Nadine: Shoveling the shit away. Actively discovering her better self through the help of Dr. Jacoby. Cooper: Literally spends the whole season trying to leave the body of Dougie, fading in and out of Coop-consciousness along the way. The list goes on and on. Even Bobby is heartbroken when Shelly runs off with Ray. The complement to all of this is: you have to move forward and there is no looking back. The only ones that can successfully - and I say that with a grain of salt - look back are the dreamers: they can cross realities, planes, and spiritual boundaries to interface with things humans can't understand. I mean Cooper literally gets pulled in front of a benevolent God of sorts and has the whole timeline pinned on his success of going back into a massive time fuck. His looking forward is turning backwards, and he's the only one strong enough to handle that. Laura is able to survive repeat abuse/trauma across timelines and spaces. Her leaving Odessa is another no looking back moment. Twin Peaks: The Return, examines the existential crisis all of us face when our life is more than half-way over. We were artists, actors, writers, runners, aspiring KZbinrs...dreamers, all of us. Then, we got stuck in the shit. Some people called Dr. Jacoby's rants pretentious. Maybe. But I think, fundamentally, his rants were the only time during the series Lynch talked to us as an audience.

[@tiltedhaze]

So here's a working theory of mine. Cooper, Gordon and Briggs had a plan. The giant also gives Cooper obscure directions which he "understands." So I believe they were successful. Coop goes back to the night Laura dies and stops her from being murdered. He takes her to the white lodge and instead of being taken into the lodge the giant uses the sound to transport Laura to a pocket dimension. This is not done to hide her from Judy it's done because you cannot change the future. Everything must happen as it does. Cooper still spends 25 years in the black lodge only instead of leaving through the socket, he leaves from the curtain and meets Diane. He then follows the giants instructions to enter the pocket dimension to retrieve Laura. The giant reminds him of Richard and Linda so he doesn't forget his mission as Diane does and Laura has forgotten herself. Coop takes Laura to the palmer residence to wake her up and confront Judy because Laura is the Light to her Darkness. Like i said it's a working theory. It has holes and it's not as clean as i want it to be but it's pretty solid. It's either this or Coops in the Bordo in a looped nightmare. Thoughts?

[@stephenr9616]

Did you know that "The little girl who lives down the lane" is a very relevant 1976 phycological horror film about a girl with an abusive mother? Clearly an influence on the Laura Palmer story.

[@ShinySephiroth1]

Stephen R Thank you for mentioning it. I was wondering if it was left out on purpose

[@jjjtccc]

Yes, that was brought to my attention by another youtube video commentary. (Sorry, I can't remember whose it was - I've watched too many.) He used it as an important component in his explanation of what was going on in TPtR (along with, surprisingly, the movie "Carrie"!) It made sense to me.

[@Rh143]

Here is my new Twin Peaks - The Return theory - Nothing is a dream, everything is reality. Cooper changed everything to the worse. At the end of Twin Peaks - Fire walk with me movie is Laura murdered, but her soul is saved, she saw an angel and she was happy. Agent Cooper in The Return changed the past, save Laura´s life, her murder will not happen and Laura will get into alternative reality, which is actually true reality. In that, everything turns out worse than the original reality, Laura is a killer, because Coop rescues labile, drug-dependent, confused Laura and prevents her salvation. He leads her to mother Sarah Palmer, about her Coop doesn t know´that she is actuallly Judy.. Cooper and Laura are two lost souls from the Black Lodge at the end. I apologize for my English.

[@crnacpanker]

How come she dont remember anything from Twin Peaks?

[@marian3nene45]

Never clicked on a video so fast :) Another note- RIP Harry Dean Stanton. Absolute LEGEND.

[@PetePeppers1]

Legend is almost an understatement here.

[@rini6]

I know he was 91 but it was such a shock. After seeing him in the show where he seemed so vital it was even more painful.

[@PcGameGold]

Was Twin Peaks cursed, so many passing.

[@rini6]

A lot of the actors were older. That's all, imho. Unless it was Judy ... jk.

[@Leen61]

+Pete Peppers. My husband and I are big fans of Twin Peaks and watched all the episodes of Season 3 on Showtime. I'm still wondering, in episode 8 where that bug crawls down the teenage girl's throat in New Mexico, was that Sarah Palmer as a teenager? Where those 2 teenagers Richard and Linda?

[@RyanHicks306]

I appreciate all of your thoughts. When the last two episodes streamed I accidentally watched the last episode first. When I got to the end and realized I made a mistake I felt sick to my stomach. However, it was interesting to watch them in that sequence in that it still made as much (or as little) sense. I can't think of any other movie or TV show with so much narrative depth that all of these theories could possibly work from a certain point of view.

[@davido6931]

I did this too. It recorded differently then I expected and started with bad Coop on fire in the RR. It just goes to show how open this show made us that I didn't immediately realize I had missed something until the end.

[@DaveZula]

Can't wait for your Twin Peaks season one commentary! Thoroughly enjoyed the season three videos.

[@brownsugar2456]

David Lynch is a genius. He is the Michaelangelo of his era. And the 3rd season of Twin Peaks was his masterpiece.

[@garycottier92]

No chance. It's not even as good as Eraserhead, Wild at heart, Lost highway or Mullholland drive.

[@brownsugar2456]

Gary Cottier at least you could spell Mulholland Drive correctly jeez

[@garycottier92]

So it wasn't a joke then?

[@rahilkiani]

What I love about it is that by not explaining it Lynch and Frost have allowed it to live on. All personal opinions are interesting to me and I don't have to agree with any of them. Lynch said nobody has ever explained Eraserhead in the same way that he see's it. Considering it's his first film, from that point on he would know the value of not doing so. If he did his work would be as dead as the majority of movies and shows that exist. Some say ignorant things like "Lynch has lost it" or "he doesn't even know what he doing". That's just people who are suffering because they are so used to the simple and incredibly safe world that most movies create. They just want a basic good versus evil story where the so called good guys win every time. This is the main reason I can barely watch any movies or TV unless it's a documentary now. Our world is ever changing and open ended and some people just can't handle that. I personally have no theory on Twin Peaks. I mainly love the world and atmosphere it creates and I appreciate it on every level. Thank you for your insight and opinions throughout this never ending journey Pete.

[@cadmo3631]

Thanks for this video, Pete, you did a great job. Also, I'd be super excited if you got to do a Season 1 recap or whatever you plan on doing.

[@nettieforce1]

The shout-out to Harry Dean Stanton was classy.

[@garycottier92]

Even after two weeks I still can't stop thinking about it. Pete's videos keep the dream alive.

[@jjjtccc]

I'm in the process of re-watching the entire season right now (next: part 5). The Showtime streaming app gives an "expiration" date of Sep 26. No way I'm going to let that date pass by without getting another complete viewing in :-)

[@kmr15mhs]

I just want to say this is my favorite twin peaks channel. Thank you sooo much for taking the time to do these!!!

[@PetePeppers1]

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.

[@Runjinrun2]

Great job as usual. This is the best Twin Peaks analysis show on YT IMHO.

[@PetePeppers1]

Thanks. It's been a lot of fun to make this videos.

[@triplucid3563]

Many THANKS FOR CREATING AMIGO! HAVE MY THEORIES & LARGELY SURE BUT STARTING TO WARM UP TO LOVING THE "OPEN ENDING" OPEN FOR DISCUSSION ETC

[@garycottier92]

R.I.P. Harry Dean Stanton. Alien, Paris, Texas, Kelly's heroes, Cool hand Luke, Escape from New York, Wild at heart, Hotel room, Inland empire and Twin peaks. Absolute legend.

[@tylerskiss]

Brilliant actor and only now I find he is also a gifted musician!

[@pete123x]

Straight Story? He was a unique character actor, and yet another Twin Peaks stalwart gone.

[@garycottier92]

The straight story slipped my mind when I came up with my favourites of his. It was off the top of my head. Don't get me wrong, it's a great, lovely film, I just forgot about it. I realised it straight away though. The straight story always feels like the discreet David Lynch movie.

[@dawngrrrl]

Yes, amazing actor and talented musician. RIP. Among all those great performances he will also always be "THE PROPHET OF JUNIPER CREEK!" Roman Grant was an excellent character.

[@nuthinmuffins5073]

You forgot one: Rip Van Winkle Sr., in the Shelly Duvall's Faerie Tale Theatre adaptation of The Legend of Rip Van Winkle. The eternal codger's unique voice and facial crags gave this child's imagination much to chew on in the '80s. R.I.P., Rip.

[@Carlixyz]

Great video, It's seems you spended a nice time in forums diggin and compiling all those crazy thinks here, very interesting, thank you very much!

[@bwoodfilms]

When I saw Lynch at the university and heard the question about Audrey I knew right away we were gonna get a typical Lynch answer and he certainly provided one.

[@MrLaMund]

Great video, bringing together the different theories, keep it up dude - earned yourself s sub.

[@jamesmorgan7935]

I like to believe that the real Agent Cooper went back to Vegas to live in marital bliss with Diane's hot sister and the Agent Cooper that went to save Laura Palmer is the tulpa that he had Mike create

[@AAWien]

@pete peppers- i am pretty shocked that you missed out on the best explanation out there in my opinion: the bardo theory. lynch is heavily invested in tibetan mythology (=tulpas etc.). according to this theory, cooper is trapped in the bardo which is a form of hell/heaven scenario in which the soul meets different manifestations of oneself (the different coopers/richard) and re-lives certain aspects and experiences of its life until it reaches self awareness and learns from failure. so in a nutshell cooper is trapped in the bardo which is the red room after failing in season 2, since he met his shadow self with imperfection (remember what hawk said about that)? so coop never leaves the red room/bardo in season 3 but just re-lives his failure in an infinite loop and in infinite variations since 25 years..so coop is the dreamer and lives inside his own dream where he thinks he is close to victory over his shadow self finally, until laura is snatched away from him and yet again he fails. cut to the next iteration: richard/linda (after cooper ends up in the red room/bardo again, which in reality he never left). so the whole thing restarts similar to episode one, just with slight deviations as to what the the arm says and its time for the new iteration of failure: where carrie hears her mother/judy at the end, laura becomes self aware and again, this reality ends and he ends back in the red room where we see laura whispering in his ear again. she probably tells him that this has been going on forever and thats why he has the shocked expression. the theory you favoured makes little sense to me, as there is no mention or sight of judy at all. if she would play a role in the carrie /richard dimension i would expect to see her there, but that isnt the case.

[@michellehallam9406]

Yes! I have this un-nerving feeling that this is what I am experiencing right now/then/later/even later/then again/right now. Right now, I'm enjoying a fine bordeaux. Bardo? We won't talk about Judy. Make's me wish I knew a little French, Tibetan and Urdu. Judaai = detachment, judaai= divarcation(to spread apart, branch, diverge.) Duality. All you have to do is speak the truth in a bad accent and you will gain knowledge THROUGH REPETITION AND CORRECTION, or go un-noticed as Naido did. Thanks AAWien. I'm saved... in this second. Back to my damn fine Bardo. Mmmmmm. bordeaux.

[@dedalus167]

Looking forward to season 1. And Harry Dean Stanton, a legend, rest in peace.

[@MrJambot]

Pete - I just wanted to say that watching TP3 was one of the greatest things this year. Your videos were my first port of call after viewing episodes and it became part of the enjoyment of the whole thing. There are so many TP reaction and review vids and (without wanting to be rude) they just don't have the same depth, awareness of the canon, and passion as your videos. Thanks a lot!

[@PetePeppers1]

+MrJambot thanks. I am starting a season 1 rewatch soon so hope you'll be watching.

[@MrJambot]

Great excuse for a rewatch for me too!

[@nagilumsnangilima]

Here' s my theory. A recurring theme of TP is the duality and balance of nature and existence: Light and Darkness, Ying and Yang, White Lodge and Black Lodge. On Earth, this balance was disrupted when the a-bomb went off in the Nevada desert in '45 thus causing an inter-dimensional rift to open and release the ethereal demons of Judy, Bob, Mike and the woodsmen who look like Abe Lincoln, among others, into our realm. As a response to this, the Fireman, sent a good, ethereal spirit to counterbalance the evil forces which were released into our world through a gnossis sphere (a deus ex machina-like device). I believe that Laura Palmer, Cary Page, and even Maddy Ferguson were created in that benevolent spiritual being's image- like humans were supposed to be created in the image of God. Remember, in Ep. 8 the Fireman sends the Laura looking entity/spirit directly after the events of the a-bomb explosion and the release of the demons in Nevada. In effect, Laura, Maddy and Cary were tulpas of the Laura entity. As explained in the series, tulpa's are thoughtform creations, created by two or more entities. Tulpas, however, seem to be yanked from the world, once they come to the complete realization that they are NOT who they seem to be. That's what happened with tulpa Diane; she realized that she was a copy and that she was imminently going to be ripped from reality. Thus, she probably pulled out the gun to shoot herself (not Gordon and Albert). The effect of being ripped or torn from reality is horrifying and painful: like being about to be killed in a dream state and then waking up from that nightmare screaming, thus, the whole reference in the Monica Bellucci dream about the dreamer’s dreaming and the question about who really is the dreamer. This would also jive with what happened to Audrey as the real Audrey probably woke up in a hospital soon after her tulpa sprang the mortal coil. The real Audrey was most likely in a coma from the bomb explosion in the bank 25 years ago. This would also be consistent with the shocked look in Audrey face when she looked at herself in the mirror. She was also wearing a hospital like gown and was a in white room. Bad Coop and some other demons most likely made the tulpa to replace Audrey. I think the main victim, Laura was probably a tulpa too given the fact that she tells James in FWWM that she is not herself and that real Laura was gone long ago. Regarding the Black Lodge, time is non-linear and doesn't exist in such a fashion as it does in the real world given the one armed man's question, "is this the future or the past?" Based on this set up, here's what I think happened: the real coop indirectly caused Laura Palmer's murder as well a time loop in Twin Peaks, Washington when he went back in time. Indeed, in FWWM, when Laura and James stop in the middle of the woods and talk, Laura looks over James's shoulder across the woods and she screams. But in the movie itself we don't see what she sees- it's left up to the imagination of the viewer. However, in TP3, we see that Agent Cooper is standing behind some trees and bushes staring at her. In the FWWM version, Laura screams and is frightened by what she doesn't understand -- namely, the FBI agent from her dreams and the person whom Annie referred to, who is standing across the woods from her. This fear causes her to react by withdrawing to the company of Leo, Jacques, and Ronette for sex, drugs and alcohol which we know ultimately leads her to the clutches of Bob, who has possessed Leland. Laura is killed and Coop thereafter is eventually dispatched to solve her murder. In the TP3 version, Laura makes the active decision to face her fear and take Coop's hand, which in turn, erases the events leading to her fate. But remember, it's Laura's death that also leads her to be trapped in the Black Lodge as well, as she puts on the special ring before her demise at Bob's hands. Her essence or spirit enters the BL after she is stabbed to death. But in TP3, Coop "saved her", she is no longer in the BL and since time has no meaning in the BL (at least not the way that we know it), not only does Laura's corpse disappear in Ep. 17, but she is also yanked or torn from the BL in S 03 ep 02. Here's where the analysis gets a bit tricky:the demons that were released way back in '45 (namely Bob and Judy) congregated to TP, Washington because it was a hotbed of spiritual activity. Moreover, they went to the BL (which is not evil by itself per se) in order to gain power and information. I think this is where they gained the knowledge of the existence of the Laura entity which was sent to counterbalance them. And so in the first timeline, Judy and Bob find Laura's spiritual presence in the BL, gain an awareness of who she is, and seek to create a birth-like tulpa in Laura Palmer for the purposes of gaining access to the divine, spiritual entity dispatched in '45. First, Judy went to 1956 and entered a young Sarah Palmer's mouth via a bug, and laid dormant inside her. And then, Bob gradually entered into a young Leland Palmer. Sarah and Leland got married and Sarah had Laura Palmer (who is a tulpa of the benevolent Laura entity). S and L sought to use the tulpa to assimilate and corrupt the good Laura entity. Nonetheless, when Laura chose to go with Coop in Ep 17 instead of heading to Leo and gang, the time loop in the TP world was broken. Since Laura never got murdered and never put on the ring which sent her to the BL- Judy and the demons not only lost access to the Laura tulpa, but they also lost the information leading to their awareness of the Laura entity. Indeed, in ep. 17, Judy became aware that she was losing the tulpa and thus any possible opportunity to corrupt the Laura entity so that's why she grabbed the picture with image of Laura and started smashing it. But, without an awareness of who the Laura entity is, the demons never sought to create the tulpa as a device to gain access to the Laura entity and poor Laura Palmer was never created in the way that the TP audience came to know her in the first timeline; that's why Laura was ripped from the hands of Coop as they were traveling in the woods. Thus, in effect, Cooper did save Laura but Coop saving her, also had the inapposite result of ripping her from their reality. Nonetheless, Coop, did also create an alternate timeline by going to the past... . perhaps, a retroactive one as well. In this alternate timeline Judy and Bob did not possess any knowledge of or access to the Laura entity, although a tulpa was inadvertently made because Leland and Sarah did have a daughter, whom they put up for adoption. That's how "Laura" wound up in Odessa, TX with the Page family and was given the name of Cary Page. Remember, that Cary seemed to recognize the name Sarah when Coop mentioned it to Cary at her doorstep. It is reasonable to assume that Cary could have made some effort to find the identities of her real parents. Finally, Coop gained an awareness that his actions created the alternate universe where Laura may not know of who she was in the first timeline: thus, the whole reference of killing two birds with one stone- saving Laura and taking her with him to make her aware of who she really is. But, I think that Cooper himself did not know that even Cary Page is a copy and that the only real Laura is the Laura entity itself or herself. Cooper's actions again were doomed to failure because by making Cary aware of who she was in the other world, Cary would also come to the sudden realization that she too was a tulpa as some hidden piece of information lay dormant within her which was triggered by her visit to her original house in TP. Therefore, the reference to Richard and Linda was thus a warning- Cooper was not meant to go after and save alternate universe Laura (Cary Page) as Richard and Linda were not meant to be together as so stated in that letter. Hope this helps.

[@jjjtccc]

Looks like you might have some worthy thoughts there. But you need to learn how to parse/format your thoughts into paragraphs. Otherwise, most people reading this will see one giant blob of words and think: Aaah! I better skip this!

[@kummakummakummakummakummac8606]

You have some really interesting thoughts about it. It makes alot of sense.

[@martindeloche2184]

really like that theory. I have developed a similar one so thanks for putting into words some of the thoughts I had when watching TP3!

[@jayza7042]

Lynch is that you?

[@slide04]

This is the best theory I've heard yet. That did help a lot.

[@SEISMICNOISEDNB]

does anyone actually remember that the clue "there is something wrong with Sarah" was already in last episode of season 2 (she says "I'm in the black lodge with Dale Cooper")??

[@jamescobham6558]

i absolutely hate the dream theories , because that means nothing is real and it was all just bullshit

[@kaleenakelly]

No no, think about Mulholland Dr. Applying the dream theory we see so much more to interpret and how the dream takes names experiences and people and mash them into a play of human desire and subconscious interpretation. So cool, like how hard it is to explain a dream, because you know it's camilla but in the dream it doesn't look like her sometimes. Lynch is great at explaining dreams.

[@ahuse1]

"Dreams are real while we're having them. Can we say any more about life?"

[@nancykillsyou]

I think “the dream theory” is a really simplistic and misguided way of explaining the show...Challenge yourself for Christ sake! Besides, what is a dream but an alternate state of conscious reality? It’s shorthand and more poetic to say “we live inside a dream” than to say “we live in another reality” that’s too on the nose. I’m all for interpretation, but at the end of the day, it’s both. I just do not believe ANYONE was asleep during Twin Peaks...there are too many different realities within the show itself...Is the Red Room a dream? The convenient store? The White Lodge? The Mauve zone? If you’re gonna open that box then season 1 and 2 and Fire Walk with Me were Dreams too... It’s such an anything goes road to go down...If I don’t see anyone fall asleep, it’s not a dream. In Mulholland Drive, we see the viewpoint of Dianne’s head hitting a pillow and the film starts...I think the dream theories are a bit...unsatisfying. And when Gordon or Coop uses the word “dream” they are not talking about the “lay down go to sleep dream”

[@GabrielGoopar]

I care and love Laura Palmer ever since I watched Fire Walk with me, it is rather a very sad plausible life of many teenagers, just told as a horror/mystery. At core, it is the story of a girl who was abused since she was a kid by her father, the only plausible solution to why a father would do that to his daughter is if he was possessed by an evil spirit. I wish Laura had a happy life.

[@LosBerkos]

irish rover So in other words you would trust the rational argument of a figment of a dream? That's so backwards that it's upside down.

[@irinazubkova543]

Pete, Thanks for the video. When this film ended, it was like being back from a great and exciting vacation or a journey to a bit boring world and get more and more absorbed by habitual routines … then one day meet one of the fellows from that vacation and experience a flashback. Thanks for this wonderful flashback! As for the theories, I re-watched the 18 hours and realized that in fact it is just like creating theories about Hieronymus Bosch’s or Salvador Dali’s art. Actually, there are a lot of those, but I guess there is no such thing as “the right’one”. Lynch made a great unbelievable thing, he made us stop consuming the art and start meditating, speculating and this way the summer of 2017 he has changed us a bit and our perception of the world. Still I couldn’t help thinking and making theories. If we take Dream as a practice, then we can presume that there is a Waking world, there is a Dream world and there are also normal dreams we all see when we go to sleep. If Cooper Practices Dreaming, then he can have his “dreaming body” and travel in it to other Worlds (dimensions). And then the final scene is a part of the Dream World, Laura of that world is Carry Page, RR looks different and Palmers’ house is owned by the entities of the Dream world… We can develop it further: Audrey got stuck in the Dream world and we don’t know if she is present in Waking world or not at all, or if she is aware of the fact that she is in the Dream world. Then the flash when we see her in white, probably is the flash of awareness of being trapped in the Dream world.

[@guillermija]

wow... amazing analysis! thanks for the insights and the links! I pre order the new book already!

[@PetePeppers1]

Cool, I'll be doing videos on the Final Dossier when it comes out.

[@Johnkeav]

The true ending of Twin peaks is in the last scenes of the film Fire Walk with me i.e. Laura is finally saved as an angel comes and get's her. Lynch and Mark Frost didn't just add this in for abstract fun. We can already see they have consciously linked season 3 to prior episodes, including the film. She was saved, and went to the light (and Cooper was probably an agent of the light lodge). Therefore.......all the speculation over the end of season 3 is relatively pointless. As said throughout...."is this future...or is this past"? PS. Audrey is trapped in a hell world. She always loved young, attractive men. She now forever is apparently wedded to an ugly, un-romantic dwarf like man who will never sweep her off her feet. For some reason her consciousness temporarily returns or get's disrupted, to likely reveal a metaphorical mirror either 1) to symbolize her lost youth and beauty forever lost and/or 2) perhaps symbolizing her being trapped in the the past and/or reflection of her own inner fears

[@islandofthemoon]

Just now as I am nearing the end of this video my iPhone rings and the call is from Unknown. Never happened before. But I know where I've SEEN it before!! Doodoo doodoo...

[@jjjtccc]

Did you also get a text from Unknown that said: "Around the dinner table the conversation is lively."?

[@jefjaeger]

8:20 - David Lynch himself could be the dreamer - the whole story is his dream that all of the characters live in...

[@x340x]

exactly

[@rellman85]

He literally is exactly that.

[@larsvontrio]

Mr Lynch, this is an amazing piece of work. It's Lost Highway meets Blue Velvet meets Twin Peaks. I'm not sure why you are into this transmogrification, or three different versions of one person, bur I love it.

[@larsvontrio]

And I forgot Erazerhead.

[@stephenr9616]

A big mystery is what happened to Audrey. The coma / phyc theories are fine but having rewatched the series it appears that Audrey is somehow linked to the Arm. They both mention "is this the story of the girl who lived down the lane?". Audrey's dance is the same as the Arm's (man from the other place) dance in season 1 (great that Pete is covering this next btw) and is to the same music. The area behind Jack Rabbits Palace features a tree that is similar to the evolution of the Arm and the pool looks like a mirror. Audrey awoke to be staring in a mirror.

[@akikolehmainen88]

Stephen R, we can at least deduct that the state Audrey was in was fundamentally linked to dreams that her son was having. Richard dreamt he was a girl named Megan, and events in his life were not only turned into dream versions in his alter ego's life but they also dripped to Audrey's dreamlike state. As Audrey seems to appear as Megan's mother Tina in Richard's dream, she or her soul apparently was alive in a dream in her son's dream world. This was all abruptly gone when he died.

[@stephenr9616]

Aki Kolehmainen - Not sure. There was a quick scene that didn't involve Richard Horne where someone ran into the diner asking if anyone had seen Billy. This seemed to tie in with Megan's Roadhouse story. It was also odd that Audrey's dance was interrupted by a fight over a married woman, which seemed more aligned with the earlier incident involving James - as if Audrey was aware of what was happening and being said in the Roadhouse.

[@akikolehmainen88]

Stephen R, Megan and Sophie discussed only issues directly related to Richard's life, turned into issues in Megan's life. Richard's suppressed transsexuality was a reason for his extreme hostility towards women which Lynch underlined many times. The scene about someone looking for Billy was from this dream world. Billy was Richard's dream version for the farmer he stole the truck and then later apparently assaulted. His dream turned the farmer as his alter ego's mother's lover. As Tina was Audrey, also she believed Billy was her lover. Anything new that Audrey's limited reality got was from Richard. The fight at Roadhouse just before it disappeared was related to Richard dying. As Richard's father was a Black Lodge doppelganger, that had linked Audrey to Black Lodge in a way or another. Her guardian Charlie says she had a contract of sort and apparently she had done it willingly.

[@stephenr9616]

Aki Kolehmainen - wow!

[@akikolehmainen88]

Stephen R, thanks! So complicated, and yet not sure if this was even 50% right. And still just a subplot. The main plot is one complex headache haha.

[@Ductos]

Yeah, that last theory is the one I went with as well. It left me the most satisfied.

[@CombatOasis]

...wow, really great job. Helped me...I like the first theory, and the last theory...great job

[@PetePeppers1]

Thanks, glad you liked it.

[@AKADaSilva]

In my opinion this is the best season . Can' t really compre with the show from 90 obviously, but I think both the drama and the quality of the prodution is just great ... Love to all of you TP fans

[@nickcody1001]

I like the last theory too. There are a few things about it that don't settle quite right. For example, in David Auerbach's theory, the ending of Twin Peaks (episodes 17 and 18) goes pretty much as Agent Cooper, Diane and Gordon Cole had planned. But that doesn't match the tone of defeat and devastation that seems to come out of those episodes. Agent Cooper really does look lost and beaten at the end of episode 18. (And the whole mood of the rolling credits backdrop, with Laura whispering the "bad news" into Cooper's ear, feels like it reinforces this sense of doom. But Auerbach argues that Laura is used as a kind of nuke to blast Judy, or rather, to collapse this alternate dimension and thereby defeat Judy. But it just feels more like Agent Cooper and Laura are the ones defeated at the end of it all. Perhaps the motif of sacrifice--they sacrifice themselves to save "official reality"--is where the sombre tones of the end come from. Not sure. I'll have to mull that over. But, yea, it's probably the best theory I've come across so far. Thanks for sharing!

[@ggman002]

Your channel is pretty good :3

[@PetePeppers1]

Thanks.

[@firewalkwithme481]

Damn good channel

[@mattstefon4878]

Pete: Great vid yet again. Have a question. Has any theory you've seen mentioned that in Episode 17 MIKE speaks like a human being, not like a Lodge entity, for the first time since the events of season 2 (within the series)? When he recites the "Fire Walk with Me" poem, he's not speaking in the reversed backward speak; he's speaking the way he did in Cooper's dream all the way back in season 1.

[@bartconnelly6926]

isnt that a clip from S1ep3? I believe it is.

[@ShinySephiroth1]

I've been wondering about that for a while myself. There has to be significance to why Dale technically never does anything backwards (i think his "huh?" to Laura was incidental because she was recorded backwards in the scene he was in)

[@SvartGast]

Bart Connelly The scene in Part 18? No, it's not, it's new footage.

[@akikolehmainen88]

Matt Stefon, Mike had left the Black Lodge in the Part 17 scene. He only spoke backwards in the Black Lodge.

[@EvanBNW]

He also looks like he's in a boiler room in the original dream of episode 3. In episode 17 Cooper goes to the boiler room of the Great Northern.

[@sebb440]

pin theory was pretty dope too! Thanks for all your vidz !

[@jjjtccc]

What is "pin theory"?

[@Kiyosuki]

I'm leaning towards an algamation of the last two theories myself. The idea of creating a pocket dimension, or even neverending loop, to trap Judy (and perhaps Laura Palmer) in with Cooper being an unfortunate sacrifice to make possible, is intriguing and does make a degree of sense. However, there's way too much implication of a blurring of the 4th wall and perceived connection to our world in the series for me to ignore. Not just the general framing of Twin Peaks as this loosely setup, almost dreamlike world and Gordon's dream and his obvious connection to Lynch himself...but many other small things as well like the owners of the Palmer household in the end being played by that house's actual owners apparently. Perhaps mixing of the two makes a bit more sense if throught of through the lens of a more Lovecraftian perspective on dreams, that being that they're actually alternate realities in themselves that our dreams create, are the gateway to, or a vision of. Our own reality within the lore, being one massive dream of an unimaginably enormous galactic entity. So in other words, perhaps the world of Twin Peaks, or this version of it, is very much a "dreamworld" created by its creators to be a tv show for us, but nonetheless is also its own tangible reality. When you open up the idea of travelling between realities and alternate dimensions, anything becomes possible, including this. So there is indeed a real internal narrative at play, with the battle against Judy and traversing realities; but also this concept of a dreamworld. Putting Twin Peaks the show in a frame and filming the frame so to speak. Perhaps Gordon, an actual person within the dreamworld/s, is special because he has an awareness to an extent of the alternate versons of himself including one where he's literally the director orchestrating the dreamworld (Lynch). It might also explain Audrey's situation. Audrey is, for the most part, largely irrelevant to the main plotline. However, she's there. What if her disjointed situation, as well as her cryptic awakening is meant to show that she's at least partially aware of her status as a character in the show like Gordon...but Audrey the character is literally stuck in limbo because her character's fate and ultimate whereabouts have been intentionally unresolved? Her character's fate has been a question for nearly 25 years, and Lynch obviously meant to keep it that way and what we're seeing is Audrey, who maybe as a result of the coma or her current state of existence, is partially aware that her character is essentially literally stuck in character limbo and what we're seeing is her character's best ability to comprehend it. Reliving bits and pieces of her former existence, like reinacting her famous dance (and as the video pointed out, referred to by its out of show name rather than in continuity one.) but her character essentially being kept in limbo by the writers. We're literally seeing a character experiencing not being used or implemented, and thus, she's illusive. Perhaps it was a way for them to say "Audrey isn't important", but needing to address the character anyways due to her popularity, used the notion of Twin Peaks as a living breathing dreamworld, to depict her current state...that of a non character. To be a bit more brutal, perhaps that too is why she's looking at herself in a mirror in white nothingness. It's as if the character is being confronted with the validity of her entire character. As if to say "Why do you think you were so popular!?" while playing no further role of importance in the dreamworld of Twin Peaks the show.

[@colacentral]

Cooper and Laura / Carrie are still in the Black Lodge or something similar. The "cage" idea is the result of people wanting to project a happy ending on to an ambiguous ending, just like how so many people initially insisted on a "life goes on" ending for The Sopranos despite all the evidence to the contrary. Judy is closely related to the horse / possibly actually IS the horse, and Carrie wears an upside down horseshoe necklace around her neck - the necklace possibly represents ownership by Judy; an upside down horse shoe represents bad luck. I think Judy represents death - everyone tries to escape it, plan to stop it, but you can't. Once you die, you're dead, you're gone for infinity. But it's okay, for as the Log Lady says to Hawk, "death is just a change"; and besides, life is just a dream we pass through momentarily.

[@NatalieScarlettNYC_]

I like the last theory. I had the feeling watching it that something was amiss, not that they got "tricked" into going to that reality per se but that that reality was a setup or was an obviously imitation one.

[@musicmavenpublishing2265]

I am one of the only people who never watched Twin Peaks back in the day when everyone was talking about it. I wondered what I was missing. I knew it was a trippy mystery drama, but I hadn't a clue it had all the slap stick comedy intertwined. Now I'm hooked- so unbelievably stupid. Love it.

[@icantbelieveitsnotnews2828]

The last episode is so relaxing

[@LeoSSCa]

The finale was perfect, I was a little disappointed at first but now I see what they were going for here. Its a story without begining or an end, we like Dale are stuck in a loop trying to solve everything where there are no answers to be found.

[@akikolehmainen88]

Nave Abu, Cooper didn't realise the story was about him now, not about Laura or anything else.

[@yagyujubei3]

As a little side note, did anyone else think that Diane/Linda's bright red bobbed hair reminded them of the recurring red balloon images? I suddenly saw it and was struck by it :)

[@GaryALucas]

I liked how Cooper's (Richard) visit ti the Tremond's reflected to Donna's visits to the other Tremond house, and the 2nd time the tenant was Chalfont. :/

[@bartconnelly6926]

The issue i have with the it was all just a dream theories is that they suppose that waking reality is real and the dream is fake. Clearly in Lynch films the dream is as real as so called reality.

[@antares5561]

Yeah, I interpret it as using our subconscious (where dreams come from), and how we perceive reality (living your life like a sleeper vs. being awake). I think there is a strong time travel element, in the form of astral projection. I think we are dealing with alternate realities, otherworldly entities, and other dimensions.

[@bartconnelly6926]

absolutely agree on the other dimensions. if you have a chance look into the many worlds interpretation of quantum physics on wikipedia. I also recommend DMT: The spirit molecule. I sometimes think this reality is like an orb of water that our faces dip into like masks and our minds are beyond it out into the many other realities. sometimes we can perceive them. Sometimes not. This reality does have significance but the others do as well.

[@antares5561]

Bart Connelly I actually love DMT The Spirit Molecule. I recommend Robert Anton Wilson's Cosmic Trigger to you! While we're on the subject of DMT, Graham Hancock's "Supernatural" is amazing as well.

[@nancykillsyou]

It WASN’T a dream, sure Lynch has done dreams...but why did Gordon himself say there had been a plan in motion for 25 years to destroy Judy? My opinion was ep 18 was part of that plan, but it failed because Cooper cannot let go of the need to save Laura. The Fireman created another reality which was suspiciously like our own. You could say this is somewhat like a dream in that it is a construct reality of some beings mind. But it was designed to lure Judy into and then pull the plug on. Why didn’t they send Albert or Gordon into this reality??? Who knows? But I believe when Laura whispers to Coop in the Red Room she is telling him that her purpose is to die and that he can NEVER save her.

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks so much, Pete!

[@MrWolff9963]

Thanks for the video I kind of understand the ending but I'm still a little lost, what I do understand is the term "open to interpretation" that's all I could gather :P

[@PetePeppers1]

Yeah, David Lynch says that the only thing that matters is what you saw.

[@drunkenma5ter841]

i decided a long time ago - it was exactly the moment went jeffries told cole and cooper that 'we live inside a dream' in FWWM - that it is in fact us, meaning the viewers, who are the dreamers. it's no secret that films and moving images in general are very much like dreams and share many similarities. as just one example, in dreams you are sometimes transported from one place to another in the blink of an eye without any logical explanation or 'memory' of how you got there. the same holds true more or less in edited films. one second someone is standing in their home, next second they're on a plane or whatever. clearly, lynch likes this kind of marriage that films and dreams share. he likes to exploit their common traits. like dreams, a lot of his stuff, at least the stuff that he had a hand in creating from scratch himself, is open to multiple interpretations, and none of those interpretations necessarily have to follow any kind of solid logic with a clear definitive answer to anything. that's what makes it so fun! but it's not like the content of the show is conjured up from our own imaginations, like the content of our dreams are. how many times do you feel like you have control over what you see in your dreams? sure, maybe from time to time you can actually make something happen, but you don't ever really control what you actually see. that's the job of the subconscious. and your subconscious pulls up images of people from your memory to play as the actors in your dreams, kind of like the tulpas. to anyone who gets upset by this idea that TP may have been conceptualized as being merely an entertaining dream-like experience because then it means that none of that stuff you just watched was real, i've got some news for you. truth is, it wasn't real, and that's just a fact. movies are not real. nothing about movies is real. the emotions expressed between characters are not real. they are elements created by a writer. the characters you see are not real. they are fictional beings portrayed by actors. even biographies aren't really real, because the subject of the biography is being portrayed by someone else! the only thing that really gives any sense of actual reality to movies is you, the viewer. the way they make you feel is real. but that's about it. but that's also more than enough. because it's fun! with all of that said... TP definitely goes down as one of my all time favorite television series. definitely in my top 10, probably in my top 5, even with the god awful writing that made up about 90% of the 2nd half of the 2nd season. wow was that stuff bad. the whole windom earle thing was like the only really interesting part about that stretch, and even some of that stuff was bad too. and FWWM is a movie that influenced the hell out of me. that whole franchise has sooooooo many juicy storylines and riddles and mazes that you can interpret in so many ways and generate so many theories to electrify your imagination. the dream within the dream. let's rock!

[@SuperMarioJamesSMJ]

Has anybody put the Twin emphasis in the towm/title...twin dimension. ..doppelganger. ..

[@rellman85]

Yeah, that actually just dawned on me recently. Great observation.

[@__hjg__2123]

9:15 Lucy in hall..picture behind her is of a cut-down tree (appeared in other episodes too).... but, it looks like Jack Rabbit's Palace... ...TIA

[@salvadorsanchez2623]

To me, the voice saying "we live inside a dream" is referring to the moment we just witnessed, in which suddenly everything is gonna be fine because Bob has been destroyed and Laura has been saved. That is the dream to me, the thing we all wanted to happen. The reality comes after. As we had seen, Judy lives now inside Sarah Palmer. Judy to me is trauma, and trauma never goes away. Part 18 to me is saying that it does not matter if you grow up to be a different person, the trauma is always gonna be there, that is why we hear Sarah (aka Judy) shout Laura's name at the end, is trauma haunting her again. She remembers, screams, and the house (which is hosting trauma) collapses once again. Laura is dead, and has always been, but what Part 18 does is imagine for a brief second that Laura is not dead, it does not matter, because she would still be haunted by the trauma of her past, does not matter how much she wants to get away from it.

[@tomliordos8633]

Oh goodie, now I'm not confused at all.

[@yamyite]

I think that it was always going to be difficult doing this series after the death of Frank Silva in 1995. I would have liked to have seen some camera trickery with evil Cooper flashing into Bob's face in certain scenes

[@Bluegate37]

Another observation. I felt so sorry for Laura/Carrie. Almost to tears.

[@VDog74]

I really love how there can be so many different theories and none are really wrong. Only David Lynch can pull off this beautiful style of story telling. Obviously, there isn't an exact answer. David Lynch might not even know the right answer. Expecting there to be exact answers is like looking at a surreal painting in a museum and seeing a note from the artist telling you exactly what the painting means. That would be absurd

[@dogma9609]

oh poor Chet Desmond.....where art thou?

[@milton7763]

Wow! Never saw the season 4 plot twist coming: Dougie Jones becomes the senator for Alabama!

[@jjjtccc]

Thanks for vlogging about these theories. And I agree that the Judy-trap theory sounds the most feasible of the ones listed. It seems that the implication of that theory is that in part 8, when the Fireman "creates" Laura and Ms Dido sends her to earth (from what appears to be the White Lodge), the plan's execution has already begun. Fireman sees the evil that Judy represents (triggered, apparently, by the atom bomb) and what is likely to happen as a result, concocts the plan and starts its execution by "creating" Laura, who is then sent to earth as a dormant (egg?) to be "hatched" at the right time to be the key to the plan to entrap Judy. Then Leland/Bob kills Laura. Now, is that part of the plan? Was that murder foreseen and was "sending Cooper back into the past" to save Laura so that she can be used to trap Judy part of the original plan. Or was Cooper's saving Laura a fix to set the plan back on track, meaning that Bob/Leland's killing of Laura messed the plan up? Perhaps it doesn't matter - i.e., perhaps we cannot know. I'd like to hear what this theory, if anything, has to say about the end. What does Laura's scream mean? And what does Laura whisper into Cooper's ear and what does it imply? I noticed that this Judy-trap theory also appears on reddit: www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/6ybyjy/s3e18_my_finale_theory_that_offers_a_dianecooper/ . Maybe this is the same person (Auerbach?), but I can't tell by the id (wbg1130).

[@jjjtccc]

To answer my own question about Laura's (part 18) last scream, it seems this theory (at least the one on reddit, which might be the same, by the exact same person - Auerbach) does have an answer: "Once Laura hears Judy call her name, she releases the horrifying scream that destroys the universe and Judy, Cooper, and Carrie along with it." So the flashing lights inside the house and subsequent complete darkness in the house symbolizes the destruction of this entire universe.

[@ZakStandridge]

cheers, mate

[@Kalleesto]

I read that waggish article a while back and it's an incredibly compelling 'argument'. It's hard to entertain other theories after reading it even if it's not 'perfect'.

[@markbaumann3452]

One of the best ideas was about that pin Agent Cooper is wearing on his jacket. It is only there when Cooper ist in the Black Lodge. It is missing in Vegas. It is missing in the opening scene with the giant. The theory is that Coop left the Lodge not before Ep. 18 (Curtain Call). The arm said that Cooper could leave not before his doppelganger returns to the lodge. And that is what happened. Watch it again and look out for the pin.

[@jjjtccc]

Yes, I agree that the pin is an important and definite clue left by Lynch. So is your theory that, since Cooper is still in the lodge during parts 1 - 17, whenever we see him not wearing the pin we are seeing his dream (i.e., he's dreaming while in the lodge)? I've thought of that - am not sure about it, but maybe. Perhaps another explanation is that when we see him without the pin he is astral-projecting, i.e., we're seeing his astral body (with his physical body still in the lodge). I'm not sure this works to explain Cooper/Dougie in LV; but it could explain his meeting with the Fireman (remember: "You are far a-way"). (Note that Cooper is also wearing the pin at the end of part 17, from when he appears outside his old room at the great northern, to when he goes through, leads Laura away from her death, etc.)

[@DethronerX]

Gramophone scratching/skipping sound is heard in crazy loops when Sarah is smashing Laurah's photo

[@JenniferFarleyPhotography]

I 'm going with a hybrid of two theories, though I can't totally make sense of how they connect. I was blown away by the Waggish article and definitely love it as a plausible theory. However, my biggest issue with episode 17 was the passionate kiss between Coop and Diane after she morphed from Naido. It makes no sense if Diane's rape story was true and they'd only spent one night together before that incident. Cooper was in love with Annie when he entered the lodge; where did that passion with Diane come from? I buy the Waggish article but I think the loop theory plays in as well with the alternate reality. I don't think he and Laura were ultimately sacrificed. I think Carrie universe was in fact created by the fireman to trap Judy, but maybe beforehand Cooper and Diane lived a life in the world where he saved Laura, and they had a relationship. Both of them were returning from or somehow remembering that life when they reunited. There are obviously missing pieces there, but it's the only way I can explain that kiss in the sherif's station.

[@kimberleywien4231]

the KEY is, In 1989 Laura and Agent Cooper saw each other in a dream, and the "Cooper" she and Cooper himself saw in the dream was Cooper 25 years older, Laura wrote the dream in the diary before her death, addressing Agent Cooper as "an older man" and there's one page missing from her diary. The younger Cooper addresses his dream with Diane in the recorder, so Diane was his diary. In 2017 season, Diane was hidden and replaced with a tulpa. 25 years later: Episode17: Older Cooper found teen Laura (with the help from Philip Jeffries and MIKE) in Twin Peaks to bring her home and she disappears screaming in thin air and then Cooper suddenly in the waiting room meeting older Laura. Episode18 (Final): Older Cooper found older Laura (Carrie Page) in Texas (with the help from the Fireman) to bring her home and she screams and then everything stops. Laura' s missing page should written : "2 :53 ...Time and time and time again" WE LIVE INSIDE A DREAM -TWIN PEAKS THE RETURN. What Laura whispered to Cooper in 2017 season final was her MISSING PAGE, in where they would eventually meet each other outside the red room/waiting room, in some "alternate worlds". In disbelief Cooper then utters "WE LIVE INSIDE A DREAM". So who is JUDY (the extreme negative force)? Laura IS Judy. LAURA IS THE ONE. This is why 2017 Bad Coop was after her, because BOB who is still with him wanted Laura's body & soul, according to Laura's secret diary. Whoever is after her will vanish. She uses nickname "Ms Judy" after Judy Garland for some reasons. The Fireman (electricity?) was protecting Judy. Did the Fireman turned Laura into Judy? The WHITE HORSE means someone you have in mind the most will become something in a different & more powerful form - "the Gumm (Judy Garland's old name/self) you liked is going to be back, in style." So halellujah come on get happy!

[@peterphilip]

No other theory holds a candle to the last one. It is structurally David Lynch. It works.

[@arnemyggen]

If there was ever any doubt that nostalgia (trap) is a theme try reading the lyrics for the songs played in the show. It's a dead give away. Lynch doesn't just put songs in for no reason. Lost highway could have been "solved" more or less by reading the lyrics to heirate mich by rammstein and I'm deranged by bowie

[@elongatedmusket7430]

One Chants out between two worlds. I haven't narrowed it down, but the things sticking in my mind are the two Dimensions we saw in 17 vs 18, how the Black Lodge is the waiting room with doorways to different places, how the White Lodge is another of these places perhaps - "You are far away" meaning something to the likes perhaps.....really lends to the age old battle of good versus evil and how each dimension (10 perhaps, 2:53=10) may have it's own Judy entity, and how the White and Black Lodges (good vs evil) are in constant battle from one plane to another - sending the Laura and Cooper souls as their saving grace. There are clearly similarities from one to another, and shaking the memory of the last one after jumping into the new would be a mind riot. Season 1/2 they sent in Laura to disrupt the cycle and flush out the evil - and Cooper to defeat it (in some sense). These principles are the ones I'm studying more so than the "dream" references, as vast as they are.

[@MrLaMund]

This isn't completely my theory but a conclusion, of sorts, that seems to make sense to me. A shout out to Super Dacob for his inspired observations of Cooper's pin! Be interested to see what you think. In short, Good Coop always wears his pin before entering the black lodge and during his time there. However, as Dougie Coop, no pin...it only reappears when Bad Coop is finally sent back to the Black Lodge at the end of episode 17. From this moment on he has his pin. Lynch has given us all the key to what's happening in the most subtle yet obvious way, and this goes right back to Cooper being told that he cannot leave until his doppelgänger returns. Once Bad Coop is burning, he finally gets to leave the Black Lodge and be free for episode 18...the pin is back. This would explain his comment about a dream: as Dougie he's been able to leave the lodge only as a dreamer within the Dougie Tulpa - vaguely existing in the real TP universe and aided by elements of the magic within the Lodge. Once Cooper is free Dougie is replaced back into the world and the real Coop Is able to leave and continue his mission. Everything up to this point happened but is then changed by the events of episode 18. Also, the conversation with the Fireman in episode 1 took place while Cooper was still trapped in the lodge no pin could indicate he was communicating with the Fireman via a dream state, much as he did throughout season 2.

[@pjs1975101]

It's the last theory in the vid. The "bomb" went off here, Judy began influencing/feeding off our world, Laura was created to stop Judy.

[@GregoryWonderwheel]

Harry Dean Stanton was one of my very favorite character actors.

[@Dima_Golzman]

By the way, «Twin Peaks» apparently had an affair with «Breaking Bad» from which «Too Old to Die Young» was born.

[@ghallonefive]

That first theory makes alot of sense to me

[@standardofexcellence]

Theres a theory that cooper never left and hes just reliving this in his head to save laura as a dream

[@bretanwode]

I actually think Cooper is an innocent aspect of Laura and Twin Peaks is the dream Laura has of the world around her. Coop represents her innocence, intuition, and honesty. The reason Coop looks upset when Laura whispers to him is that she is revealing the secret of their connection. The reason why Coop and the FBI are heroes is because they represent Laura’s heroic attempt to accurately depict and face the darkness in her life. They help her to deal with her plight with honesty, courage, and understanding. Now think of the end of FWWM with Coop and Laura together seeing the angel.

[@denizdemir9255]

thanks i hate both of your theories

[@jayfolk]

last thing cooper says: what year is it? question posed at start and again in last episode: is it past? or is it future?

[@wrathofmatt4298]

The symbol on the ring is that the same symbol on the book cover of the secret history also is it the same symbol for the Great Northern hotel? Also in Bens office whats the story of the mural behind him

[@ninjalokust]

I would suggest Laura is the dreamer. That Sarah Palmer is Judy as well as the girl that swallowed the weird thing that crawled around during the flashback. That she was "infected" by Judy and then had Bob "infect" Leland who she was dating, then the fireman sent Laura to reveal Judy to Cooper because she was coming to take over the black lodge. The plan would be to create a dream from Laura, that would include Cooper as Dougie Jones in order to lure Judy from reality into the dream. Cooper brought Laura to the house and she "woke up" within the dream (like a lucid dream) terrified of Judy who she knew was there now (because of hearing her mothers voice). This would all be the firemans plan to trick Judy into this dream and then have Cooper and Laura confront her. Hope that makes sense.

[@ninjalokust]

Oh you got around to this...guess I am not the first to think it up. I could really just delete my comment, it seems I have the exact same idea as that guy.

[@drcrowlee]

I'm a believer and enthusiast for Rosseter from Twin Perfect's analysis

[@chestersykes5124]

One theory is that Cooper is a monolith presented to Laura as she dies. The paradox being he was an FBI agent brought in to investigate her after her death. This is where Jefferies comes in - he sent the monolith before being consumed by Judy (who is in fact part Caroline and part Lucy). The secondary monolith is coffee, which ultimately ties everything together. Ultimately the key lies with Big Ed - since he was hosting James (who ultimately dropped Laura off at a bad place). Future monoliths rely on the Log Lady and Hawk's spirits.

[@brianfantana5076]

The last theory by David Auerbach is a really good one but I'm not sure that I'm sold on there being other dimensions in Twin Peaks because I think the other Dimensions are cleary both of the lodges and that's it. The only thing left are dreams and most of Lynch's work is based around dreams. Not taking anything away from David Lynch but I never got the feeling that Twin Peaks or any of his other work is about multi Dimensions. I could be very wrong but his work is often open ended because it's a dream and dreams are always open ended and we are left trying to figure out what are dreams mean.

[@standardofexcellence]

Tommy "Hawk" Hill love your work ;)

[@brianfantana5076]

Lol You're the first person in over 2 months to get this alias. Good work Robert Shelton...I nominate you to be a Twin Peaks "Book House boy" ;-)

[@LabRat10101]

If its a dream, then don't just asume any of it is real. Nothing. The drug use, the molesting, being a prostitute etc. The dream obviusly starts as she hits R.E.M sleep and she awakens when the mother yells. So in her REAL life her mother could be Martha and her father a guy called Jack that works as a gardner. We don't actually know anything about Laura or her family, because dreams don't work like that. Also you don't really remember dreams, only as fragments or wisps of feelings. Like waking up from a nightmare, not knowing why you feel so awake suddenly. But you got a funny bad feeling inside.

[@ashfordwyrd7458]

I like the theory that the dimension that Dale and Dianne go into at 430 miles is the doplegangher dimension. Linda is Dianne's doplegangher, who she sees at the motel. Richard is Dale's doplegangher who walked our dimension while Dale was trapped in the waiting room, and Dale walks his dimenstion now while Richard is trapped. Cary is Laura's doplegangher. Laura herself was taken t the white lodge at the end of episode 17 - beginning of 18. The scream at the end was because Laura's memories came flooding into Cary's mind from the white lodge, memories that were not her own.

[@hdjksa52]

The thing that also _really_ pisses me off is that it ends with Cooper in _ANOTHER_ fucking dimension again!!!!!! Let this poor man go home!!!!!!!!

[@crunchu2361]

Can someone explain what this show is? I only listened to the theme and loved it.

[@Picopunk3]

I like the last theory but I see it slightly differently. I believe when cooper attempted to save Laura by changing the past he accidentally created this alternative reality, a reality of what Laura's life would have been like after her disappearance. She still would have experienced all her childhood suffering at the hands of BOB/Leland so she may still have acted as a bomb overloading Judy but like you say she looses her identity and forgets herself (possible parallels with Audrey's story line). When coop fails to save her in our reality he attempts to save her in this alternative reality but he fails to recognise you can't change the past. I believe due to the fireman's ability to time travel and explore alternative dimensions (we see he has a factory of those kettle like devices Jefferies is stuck in) he forsee's this outcome. He gives cooper clues so he still remembers his identity from the twin peaks reality and doesn't loose himself like Laura. So essentially rather than creating this reality the fireman foresee's whats going to happen and utilises the situation to defeat Judy. I believe the FBI agents had a plan but it didn't go totally smoothly. I've always seen the fireman not like an all good figure but just another lodge spirit fighting for supremacy. Why else would we see the giant in the red room in the original series. Mike, bob, Judy, the fireman. To me they just use people like cooper/Laura for their own chance at lodge supremacy. The fireman needs coop because he knows he's the best candidate to make Laura remember her past. Bob without realising it may have made Laura suffer enough to defeat Judy. Who knows Bob may have even wanted to defeat Judy himself. Coopers face imposed over the screen in episode 17 was I believe Richard looking at coopers timeline recognising it was all a dream. All be it a very important dream which allowed the three manifestations of himself to become whole (Lynch tends to explore the idea that only through unity of spirit can you find pure bliss therefore fulfilling the criteria to exit the red room by concurring your shadow self). The thing with twin peaks is that the line between dreams and reality is blurred. I think lynch is trying to explore this idea that our dreams are no less real than our reality they're just an alternative to it. We live inside a dream/alternative reality with differing but similar outcomes. Part of me thinks Laura's spirit in the red room may even be inhabited by Judy/the experiment. She may have said something like 'in order to defeat me you must die.' Who knows, its the show that keeps on giving.

[@jjjtccc]

I like what you say about the Blue-Rose (including Cooper) team having a plan to defeat Judy and (I think you're implying) being allied with the Fireman - and that the Fireman sees more than the Blue-Rose team and thus is able to come up with a contingency plan (or perhaps he new the extended plan would be necessary, rather than a contingency). When he says "Remeber: 430; Richard and Linda; two birds with one stone" to Cooper, Cooper says he understands. But I think Cooper only has a shallow understanding of what the Fireman means by that - he knows enough to drive 430 miles and to not be too surprised when he encounters "Richard (himself, apparently) and Linda" in the new dimension/reality/timeline/universe/... But I think the Fireman knows pretty much what is going to happen and Cooper knows only enough to keep on track. (Otherwise, he would not have been surprised that "Linda"'s letter is addressed to "Richard".) Why does the Fireman not share everything with Cooper? Probably because he knows that Cooper will not be able to comprehend it all. I tend to (though am not completely certain) disagree that the Fireman is simply a selfish entity competing for power just like all the other lodge entities. The (what appears to be) White Lodge, where the Fireman dwells with his friend Ms Dido, is depicted by Lynch (IMO) as a positive, peaceful place. The music we hear (again, IMO) is all beautiful, positive music. His guests are always (except, understandably, for Coopelganger) treated well and with respect. And Major Briggs (or, at least, his head) seems very happy there. I think the White Lodge is a good place and the Fireman is genuinely concerned with humanity and the danger that Bob, Judy, and other negative forces pose to it.

[@Picopunk3]

Jim Cochrane Thing is if we're to beleive the waggish theory that Laura was made a garmonbozia bomb through her suffering that means that we'd have to beleive the fbi and the fireman did nothing to stop it and instead facilitated it. That's doesn't make any of them appear good to me. Everyone seems to just be using each other for their own purposes. It's a relationship through mutual interest rather than anything morally good. If we're to see the fireman as some god like figure he may have made Laura suffer and used Cooper as a sacrificial lamb. Personally I think that interpretation is a lot more interesting than the theory the fireman was in control of everything. There's no real jeapordy if that's the case.

[@jjjtccc]

Well, I think that raises an (old, I'm sure) question about ethics and/or morality. Is it good, evil, or neither to sacrifice someone to prevent an evil that would be much worse than just the sacrifice of one person? I'm not going to propose an answer here, although I'll point out that Christ was an example of such a sacrifice. (And I'm not going to debate that either - not being a Christian, I don't have the needed expertise, IMO.)