Twin Peaks: The Return - A Critique of Nostalgia

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The Take

The Take

6 жыл бұрын

In the revival of Twin Peaks, David Lynch and Mark Frost critique our nostalgia. Season 3 looks inward at what revival is, and why we're so eager to return to past shows we loved.
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@thetake
@thetake 6 жыл бұрын
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@paisan8766
@paisan8766 6 жыл бұрын
See my comment below about the books you ignored
@rolandbaldwin
@rolandbaldwin 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing my request. I'm so glad you made this.
@middaymeds
@middaymeds 6 жыл бұрын
ScreenPrism...want to see next
@andylikesstuffchannel
@andylikesstuffchannel Жыл бұрын
Lynch genius
@caiquemarlon5579
@caiquemarlon5579 5 жыл бұрын
Laura's scream and the shutting off of the lights in the end of part 18 is one of the scariest things I've seen. It may not be the intention, but it is
@maxmonas7131
@maxmonas7131 3 жыл бұрын
It was the intention.
@imtheitchyouneedtoscratch
@imtheitchyouneedtoscratch 3 жыл бұрын
I agree and to me that scream was most chilling and frightful of the whole 18 episodes of the Return.
@btrixlestrange6432
@btrixlestrange6432 3 жыл бұрын
i agree, that was so haunting
@stephensimington479
@stephensimington479 Жыл бұрын
LAURA!!😟
@UGLY-MONEY17
@UGLY-MONEY17 Жыл бұрын
It was probably intentional lol knowing lynch
@dont_follow5777
@dont_follow5777 6 жыл бұрын
Unmurdering Laura was the gutsiest move in tv history.
@i_dont_know_who_i_am69
@i_dont_know_who_i_am69 6 жыл бұрын
That Gordon Cole "What the hell?" is pure meme material
@nickcherries
@nickcherries 6 жыл бұрын
Love the use of the "what the hell" meme
@btrixlestrange6432
@btrixlestrange6432 3 жыл бұрын
where do i find said meme?
@nishthaarora9533
@nishthaarora9533 2 жыл бұрын
The murder of Laura Palmer was never supposed to be solved. Damn it feels good to hear Lynch say it. I felt this while I was first watching the show, I felt something shift and the show change when Laura's murderer was revealed. Can't believe how frustrating it must have been for Lynch and his team when the studio pressured them into changing the storyline. They killed the concept.
@Serai3
@Serai3 Жыл бұрын
Dude, he's been saying it since the second season aired. Where have you been?
@nishthaarora9533
@nishthaarora9533 Жыл бұрын
@@Serai3 been rewatching season 1
@chrisjfox8715
@chrisjfox8715 8 ай бұрын
Well to be fair that shift that you felt wasn't just because of the murder being revealed. It's also because Lynch literally left the show because he didn't want to be a part of it after that. Those that remained had to find the show's new way without him And to be honest there's nothing wrong with losing a show's hook or mystery as long as you've come up with a better one to take its place. In my opinion I started to get good again once the Wyndham Earl episode started to kick in
@lucasgagliardi433
@lucasgagliardi433 6 күн бұрын
Literally, the funeral episode after solving the mystery felt like screenwriters trying to push potencial new plot points to move the series. There's random people teasing you with information through all the episode. It was baffling.
@lord_roque
@lord_roque 6 жыл бұрын
The finale obliterated me emotionally.
@CloneCommandos101
@CloneCommandos101 6 жыл бұрын
Same here, watching it on acid and smoking a bowl is not recommended! Though I don't really regret it. It's one of those once in a lifetime experiences that will stick with me forever.
@quizzicalsebag
@quizzicalsebag 6 жыл бұрын
chap 18 left me feeling empty
@vegangurly
@vegangurly 6 жыл бұрын
CloneCommandos101 sad that you had to alter your state of mind to enjoy it :( you should have gone in raw brother.
@robyortichella7412
@robyortichella7412 6 жыл бұрын
kouka not alone
@Dakonaton
@Dakonaton 6 жыл бұрын
I felt it was purposefully desolate and isolating in order to put us in the same kind of mindset as Cooper is at the end when he seems to be at a loss.
@benwasserman8223
@benwasserman8223 6 жыл бұрын
This season was like an anti-nostalgia middle finger that got more insane with every episode. And I loved it!
@beyondz55
@beyondz55 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Wasserman right on, and I love your Ash with Boomstick profile pic. Fuckin love that movie.
@eminkerim7859
@eminkerim7859 6 жыл бұрын
I wanna binge watch it now, can I do it without watching the original serie?
@CoreyHackathorn
@CoreyHackathorn 5 жыл бұрын
@@eminkerim7859 you probably shouldnt. the original series is what this one is playing off of.
@wvu05
@wvu05 4 жыл бұрын
@@eminkerim7859 To paraphrase another cult classic from the decade whose dream is alive in a different Northwestern city with Kyle McLachlan, you'd be like a child wandering into the middle of a movie and wondering... they posted the next round of the tournament?
@raccoonjs6437
@raccoonjs6437 4 жыл бұрын
what Star Wars sequel trilogy should have been.
@vicenteortegarubilar9418
@vicenteortegarubilar9418 6 жыл бұрын
The original series was one of my dad's favourite series, at first I didn't get it, but he forced me to watch it a second time and ooooh my, it was worth it.
@beflygelt
@beflygelt 6 жыл бұрын
Vicente Ortega Rubilar one of the most rewarding series ever, and a lot of the reward comes from rewatches
@Rafi-bu3ci
@Rafi-bu3ci 6 жыл бұрын
what is there to ‘get’?
@NoOne-ky1er
@NoOne-ky1er 6 жыл бұрын
Nebojsa Pantelic To you. To me it is supersedes TP season 2.
@mackey-5438
@mackey-5438 6 жыл бұрын
Typical superficial response to a work of art (TPTR) that will be analyzed and debated for years to come.
@g13n79
@g13n79 4 жыл бұрын
Who's your Dad, Leland Palmer? Jeez I hope he turned the fan on
@Drew-vn8rx
@Drew-vn8rx 5 жыл бұрын
Cooper didnt return to the night before Laura was killed, he returned to THE night Laura was killed.
@IndieAuthorX
@IndieAuthorX 5 жыл бұрын
I think this is a great video on a great show, but I disagree on Cooper's return. I think it is horrifying. There is a parallel between it and Mulholland Drive. When Cooper is back with his new friends in a Jet and on his way to Twin Peaks, I get a sense of deja vu. It feels like when Betty is in the Taxi with her grandparents after winning the jitterbug contest and getting a ticket to Hollywood. There is a sappy sense of uncomfortably prolonged happiness that begins to make the viewer uncomfortable. Like a dream, the dreamer often is aware when a dream is going to turn into a nightmare. I do not think that it is a coincidence that the show got much darker after the red herring(or golden shovel) of Cooper waking up.
@dustingd1
@dustingd1 6 жыл бұрын
Ugh that look on Cooper's face when he asks, "What year is this?" followed by Laura's signature scream sends pure uncertainty, fear and ultimately chills through my body. Then the theme "Dark Space Low" as the credits roll with a sad and confused Cooper back in the Lodge is fucking soul crushing. What a trip.
@Theolppoman
@Theolppoman 6 жыл бұрын
The Return was unlike anything else, and I loved it
@oily.4608
@oily.4608 6 жыл бұрын
Twin Peaks is not your typical tv show
@danielistic49
@danielistic49 6 жыл бұрын
it's not your typical... anything.
@eminkerim7859
@eminkerim7859 6 жыл бұрын
I wanna binge watch it now, can I do it without watching the original serie?
@panterxbeats
@panterxbeats 6 жыл бұрын
don't binge it, and don't watch it without watching the original series
@jernie9384
@jernie9384 6 жыл бұрын
Emin Kerim Why do you want to skip the original ?
@eminkerim7859
@eminkerim7859 6 жыл бұрын
Sonic Blue too much time
@jmalmsten
@jmalmsten 6 жыл бұрын
I'm still not sure it wasn't all about the bunny...
@menteencoma
@menteencoma 6 жыл бұрын
It definitely was
@isakdahl7054
@isakdahl7054 4 жыл бұрын
jmalmsten Wait, what bunny again? I don’t recall a bunny...
@The1Dragonprincess
@The1Dragonprincess 4 жыл бұрын
Isak Dahl Short Films There was a scene when Lucy, Hawk, and Andy were investigating the whereabouts of Agent Cooper, looking through old files and stuff related to him. And Lucy admitted to have eaten one of the chocolate bunnies on the desk, wondering if that might have anything to do with what they’re looking for. At first Hawk said no, but then questioned if it is about the bunny. It’s also a callback to when Cooper was in Twin Peaks he recorded to Diane holding the box as if it were important.
@keef7224
@keef7224 4 жыл бұрын
The1Dragonprincess Lucy ate the bunny evidence way back in the original series, because she thought chocolate was a Native American cure for gas. Also, Jackrabbit’s Palace is another obvious bunny reference, and that’s where they have to go in the end to complete Major Briggs’ plan. Also, there’s a very cool 4.5 hour TP analysis video on YT now that explains the meta- themes of the show and how a major one is about the superiority of film over TV as a medium (nostalgia again), and it delves way into the symbology of film vs TV technology, even getting into the “rabbit-ears” antennas of TV’s as another possible bunny tie-in. Sounds far fetched I know, but if you watch the whole video you’ll admit that the guy makes some amazing points that are backed by solid evidence that’s hard to refute.
@isakdahl7054
@isakdahl7054 4 жыл бұрын
The1Dragonprincess Oh, right! Thanks! That was a hilarious scene by the way.
@BarrocoTarot
@BarrocoTarot 6 жыл бұрын
Is true we want the same thing but life is change.
@veilofreality
@veilofreality 6 жыл бұрын
nice avatar
@darthXreven
@darthXreven 6 жыл бұрын
naww, we wanted resolution to Cooper and the black lodge as well as how the hell did Audrey survive?? remember, she was chained up to the bank vault as that bomb went off??? eh I never expected the same show all over again, the IRL town has changed, people changed, the world changed and there won't ever be explanations of every little thing but you can do the big ones right?? or is that too much to ask?? IDK, new series was rightfully weird but I feel like it was a big friggin example of let's waste all our allotted time and not explain the big mystery but insert a whole new plot and follow that then we get the ball rolling then it stops as soon as it started..... show had too many false starts IMO, the original was weird as hell but they got the ball rolling from the very start and it never really stopped ugh
@mmmanutd
@mmmanutd 4 жыл бұрын
@@darthXreven what do you mean with "we"? Because in my personal opinion the third season is one of the best things Lynch has ever made, and I'm not the only one who thinks like that. The third season explores new things and characters and problematics, and even explores new styles in Lynch's cinematography, the 8th epidose is the most obvious one, it has a really strong Kubrick inspiration. The third season goes deeper into Twin Peaks' world, it's obvious that it's going to be weirder, weirder and more complex. The best way to make and idea sink-in in movies it's using metaphores and especific phrases and dialogues, the more complex it is the deeper it reachs. If Lynch instead of doing such a complex story would have made it way more simple and half of the things would have been told in a very detailed dialogue do you know boring and incomprensive it would have been? It doesn't cause the same effect, it feels more frivolous (I don't know if people use that word or not, I'm using Google Translate) and careless, like it's not really important, it doesn't sinks in at all. Sorry for bad spelling, english's not my mother tongue
@wvu05
@wvu05 4 жыл бұрын
@@darthXreven You mean you didn't like seeing Gordon and Albert (which was especially poignant given that Miguel Ferrer didn't live to see the premiere, but he was pretty much the only actor in that category able to do more than one scene or more than one setting)? Seeing how Mike was slowly helping Cooper find himself? While there were parts that did move at a glacial pace, it had some seriously amazing moments, and it certainly held up better than the ten or so episodes after the Laura Palmer mystery was solved.
@bea4828
@bea4828 3 жыл бұрын
@@darthXreven we did get resolution to Cooper and the black lodge. It's okay to not explain what happened to Audrey because not everything needs to be completely explained to us.
@CrumblyTriscuits
@CrumblyTriscuits 3 жыл бұрын
As a Twin Peaks fan, I didn't need the Return. And going into it, you knew it wasn't going to be the same. Every single episode was worth the wait! 👍
@BloodyEyes91
@BloodyEyes91 6 жыл бұрын
The Return was so fantastic. I feel sorry for everybody that gave up on it after only a few episodes because Lynch/Frost didn't immediately pander to what everyone wanted.
@SENATORPAIN1
@SENATORPAIN1 6 жыл бұрын
season 3 was absolute garbage with zero redeemable features.
@archaic9525
@archaic9525 6 жыл бұрын
+Goochy. I found someone who gave up at episode 14 because 'Cooper is not back yet!'
@jernie9384
@jernie9384 6 жыл бұрын
Charles Foster Kane I honestly don't understand that "It's pure lynch" argument. First off, lynch didn't made twin peaks completely on his own. Second, I personally don't want more Lynch. I want more Twin Peaks. Not repeated, just continued. Don't get me wrong, I generally love lynchs work but couldn't he just made another Movie ? Just something else to experement with.
@jernie9384
@jernie9384 6 жыл бұрын
Charles Foster Kane Seems like we just have a different take of the series which is perfectly fine. The original series was just something that spoke to me. I adore it with every cell of my body. I just been disappointed that the revival was not made the way I wanted it to be but that's ok, I guess.
@youtubesuresuckscock
@youtubesuresuckscock 5 жыл бұрын
@@SENATORPAIN1 No shit. Pasting the original actor who played Bob's head onto a CG balloon was not only pathetic and incompetent but completely insulting to the original actor. It was just trash. It wasn't even technically competent.
@tesseraph
@tesseraph 6 жыл бұрын
The more I think and read about Twin Peaks: The Return, the more I appreciate it. Thanks for reminding me to think about it.
@novosphere
@novosphere 6 жыл бұрын
Very insightful video! What keeps me coming back to the show is finding those golden eggs, or mysteries. I've all but forgotten other shows that either give everything away or resolve conflicts in a way to please audiences. This show really demands your attention and rewards it with some of the best experiences and feelings you won't soon forget.
@thetake
@thetake 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DarkAngelEU
@DarkAngelEU 6 жыл бұрын
That scream is the only thing that brought me back to Twin Peaks. Laura's horror is the soul of this series and alot of people seem to have forgotten that this is what the original series was about. That's what made it so good. People like to forget misery and just ravel in mystery instead.
@WhoopsieDayZ
@WhoopsieDayZ 3 жыл бұрын
I really don't agree with this take. "People like to forget misery and just ravel in mystery instead." This is completely false, as Lynch's main criticism for the show was always the end of the main mystery. It's the other way around. People want answers, want to know what everything means and "who killed Laura". But the POINT of the show was always the mystery itself, ever expanding. By demanding answers to the mystery, the audience killed the show. This is the irony of Twin Peaks.
@DarkAngelEU
@DarkAngelEU 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhoopsieDayZ You're right that the executives demanded Lynch to reveal the answer to what it all meant, but I am speaking of the people who try to make sense of Twin Peaks as something clearly defined, ie using everything in the series as a clue or a symbol to extract a deeper, more complex, divine(?) truth about Twin Peaks as if it were a holy scripture. There are many channels dedicated to discussing Twin Peaks, and even as The Return has ended some years ago, they still make x-hour-long videos where they explain THE TRUTH or "how it finally all makes sense(!)".
@WhoopsieDayZ
@WhoopsieDayZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkAngelEU Not everything in Twin Peaks is clearly defined, but a lot of it is there for us to figure out. Lynch left many clues that can be interpreted to understand the context of the show. For example, no one can dispute that the show is a meta story about television itself. Where the characters are actually inside a TV show. Hence the importance of the woodsmen, electricity etc.
@DarkAngelEU
@DarkAngelEU 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhoopsieDayZ It is a meta story, not about "television itself", but about "television as well". You're trying to reduce it to a single perspective and that's my whole point, you have to accept the show in its entirety, that means multiple perspectives and aspects, or you will never be able to enjoy it as an experience.
@WhoopsieDayZ
@WhoopsieDayZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkAngelEU Yeah but all those perspectives you're talking about are subjective. It's what you feel and think while watching. If you look past that, there are clues you can find, evidence, to find certain truths under the surface. I mean, Lynch is literally in the show guiding us (the agents) along to encourage us to find clues and solve the puzzle. You should watch the log lady intro's, in those Lynch basically tells us this and tells the audience "yes, there are actual answers to be found and there are clues to follow." Same for the FWWM intro with the blue rose and all.
@bswift1991
@bswift1991 6 жыл бұрын
Man that final 10 seconds or so still makes all my hairs stand up on end. Perfect original show, perfect reboot examining what a reboot is and why we want them. Lynch is a fucking genius. 100% insane but a genius no doubt.
@mellors
@mellors 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video SP. The love and respect for Peaks shines through in both your videos on it.
@thetake
@thetake 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael!
@AMGK
@AMGK 3 жыл бұрын
This is mind-blowing 🤯 the final just gets a totally new meaning 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 thank for this
@RealBradMiller
@RealBradMiller 6 жыл бұрын
Bring on more Twin Peaks!
@Bhaalspawn84
@Bhaalspawn84 6 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they will. On the other hand Lynch is 71 years old and the new season needed 5 years to make. So this might be all we ever get.
@thomasfamily42
@thomasfamily42 6 жыл бұрын
Saw a story a couple months ago....probably no more
@thejon93rd
@thejon93rd 6 жыл бұрын
This is the greatest season of any television series that I have ever experienced and currently stands as my all-time favourite work from David Lynch. If this season does not clean-sweep EVERY awards show this season, I'm going to be absolutely furious. Kyle MacLachlan deserves Best Actor for this role too. He literally has SEVEN DIFFERENT VERSIONS to this one character that he's playing throughout: (1) the Dale Cooper we all know from the original series (fully realized in Part 16), (2) the discombobulated "Dougie Coop" that we had for most of the season (up to the end of Part 15), (3) the first Dougie Jones (the "this is weird" version), (4) the second Dougie Jones (the one we saw briefly in Part 17, when he's reunited with Sonny Jim and Janey-E), (5) the altered Dale Cooper a.k.a. Richard (who noticeably changes when passing through the alternate dimension with Diane in Part 17), (6) the "dream-version" of Cooper (his face being super-imposed on the screen during Part 17, he also shows up during Gordon's Monica Bellucci dream) and, last but not least, (7) Cooper's doppelganger/Mr. C. I don't see many actors being able to pull off such a complex, multi-faceted role as Cooper during The Return, but Kyle MacLachlan does it masterfully, and he deserves HUGE kudos for that IMO. Seriously, watching him go from playing the most evil son of a bitch in the world (Mr. C) to being the most wholehearted character of all-time (Dougie Coop) was so exhilarating. This season gave me a brand-new appreciation for Kyle MacLachlan (and I already loved the guy after the first-two seasons of Twin Peaks). I really, really hope to see him cast in more movies and shows after this incredible effort (hell, it's wonderful to see Laura Dern starring in another Blockbuster, alike Jurassic Park, with Star Wars: The Last Jedi about to come out). I adore this season and, as much as I'd love to see a fourth season (if anything, just to see more of the original Cooper we had back briefly during Parts 16-17), I have no quarrels with this being the final curtain for Twin Peaks. Thank you so very much for this out-fucking-standing series, David Lynch. You truly are the master.
@SENATORPAIN1
@SENATORPAIN1 6 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Abbott sorry but you are delusional living in a dream world.twin peaks 3 was amateur hour.
@thejon93rd
@thejon93rd 6 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah. I agree with you too. It's a shame that most people will never get the pleasure of experiencing anything in Lynchland. Most people these days wanna be handed immediate nostalgic-goodness (hence why the Star Wars movies are such box-office bangers because "oh, lightsabers!") and they don't want to be challenged by anything that they watch because it's "too much homework". I, for one, love trying to wrap my brain around this season. I still don't get it, probably never will, yet that's why I love it: because I will always find something new to take away from it (no matter how many times I watch it), and that's why it's my favourite season of any TV series... period.
@quizzicalsebag
@quizzicalsebag 6 жыл бұрын
and of course, it got snubbed by the golden globes
@kyoung21b
@kyoung21b 6 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Abbott - While I pretty much agree with most of how you feel about TP, I’d say that that’s a pretty minority view and that TP fans should probably get used to it not winning many awards. Also if TP fans want to avoid being tweaked by comments like that of the troll who responded to your comment they should get used to the Tourette’s like comments of the masses who will never get Lynch. He has certainly made peace with this and doesn’t care much about broad appeal provided he continues to get his projects funded. And no matter what one thinks of his views I think his work stands a chance of surviving historically as great art.
@Talalay99
@Talalay99 6 жыл бұрын
I like David Lynch a lot but his die-hard fans are insufferable.
@nikczemna_symulakra
@nikczemna_symulakra 5 жыл бұрын
Great job!👍 Glad i've seen this one after forcing myself to FINALLY revisit Twin Peaks 3. Just didn't want to ruin all the delightsome memories previous seasons had given me. However.. Now i have some new, freshly squeezed memories to tear down and i'm glad to have it.
@stevenspielberg9198
@stevenspielberg9198 6 жыл бұрын
Great look at the show, feel the exact same way. This channel is top tier!
@zoehardee9518
@zoehardee9518 6 жыл бұрын
no piece of film has ever given me such an empty sinking feeling than part 18, and for that it's utterly perfect
@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures
@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures 3 жыл бұрын
I'd throw the British 1980's TV movie 'Threads' in there for profoundly and deeply felt despairing empty sinking feeling. But you really don't want to watch that. Fortunately Twin Peaks Season Three was also hauntingly beautiful at points, and very funny at others. Phew.
@imtheitchyouneedtoscratch
@imtheitchyouneedtoscratch 3 жыл бұрын
Also with The Avengers Infinity Wars I felt the same .😪😪😪😪
@SteveBueche1027
@SteveBueche1027 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t wrap my head around this one and fought to continue watching. It the end I was at a complete loss as to what I watched.
@oneironaut420
@oneironaut420 6 жыл бұрын
So many movies and shows from my youth are being revived and mostly it's been great. But I was struck by how different this new Twin Peaks was and was actually grateful that Lynch did not just pander to fans. This is in stark contrast to The Force Awakens, another continuation from my childhood that was just a re-hash of the older films. If Disney and JJ Abrams had done Twin Peaks, Cooper would have been back by episode 3 in time to solve another murder in Twin Peaks, this time a teenage boy wrapped in plastic.
@godisdeadandwememedhim4174
@godisdeadandwememedhim4174 2 жыл бұрын
I think that he would’ve been brutally killed by Lynch himself .
@nacierkan
@nacierkan 6 жыл бұрын
06:45 even if Cooper saved Laura's life, she was still missing so we may think that he came to Twin Peaks to investigate her missing situation, not her death.
@Tychoxi
@Tychoxi 6 жыл бұрын
wait, what year is this?
@ahmadjmohsin
@ahmadjmohsin 6 жыл бұрын
Tychoxi the scream is so terrifying
@NoOne-ky1er
@NoOne-ky1er 6 жыл бұрын
18
@wfd87
@wfd87 6 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@gottalight9379
@gottalight9379 5 жыл бұрын
2010
@alainojeda9100
@alainojeda9100 4 жыл бұрын
2020... now i understand why she screamed
@frequenco5545
@frequenco5545 10 ай бұрын
David Lynch has done a very strange and wonderful thing with Twin Peaks. The scene where Dale Cooper says "I AM the FBI" is art of the highest form. Talking about 'payoff', gosh darn sweet Jesus, that takes the cake.
@wweltz
@wweltz 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis! I was so pleased with the return. When I first heard it announced I was so concerned because nearly every other revival has been so terrible, but 5 minutes into the first episode I was kicking myself for ever doubting David Lynch. I really, really hope he does more television. Streaming tv is the new place for art house cinema and he did such a fantastic job with this.
@thetake
@thetake 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it
@jimdown9061
@jimdown9061 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t go home again. The return was trying to remind us that Twin Peaks is dead.
@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures
@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures 3 жыл бұрын
I love thinking about that as a pitch meeting from Lynch. "So, Mr Lynch, we're resurrecting old shows for nostalgia-junkies and Twin Peaks was hot. What you got?" "I got that TWIN PEAKS IS DEAD. HERE'S A NEWS BULLETIN SUNSHINE, IT AIN'T COMING BACK. GET WITH THE PRO-GRAM, SONNY, GET REAL." "Ha ha. I love it. Let's go with that."
@gimmeboobes
@gimmeboobes 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a recent joiner of the TP party, so I had my experience of the seasons and FWWM without the breaks in time. Not only did I love it all, I've gone from a Lynch skeptic to an appreciator.
@pinzazzzz
@pinzazzzz 6 жыл бұрын
I think most people were looking for a clear cut ending and were expecting something along the lines of a typical Hollywood style ending. I've not seen all of Lynch's films, most but not all (haven't watched Dune or The Straight Story) - and the one thing you never get is a typical happy ending. Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive, Inland Empire are all very dream like and nightmareish in some instances - Fire Walk With Me gave us the happy Laura ending, she's smiling with her angel shining down and Cooper by her side in the red room. The Return changes all of that because instead of leaving the past where it should be, we change the past and that leads us into an uncertain future. That's pretty much the message I take away from The Return - you can't change anything, appreciate it for what it is or was, wishing that you could change something has the potential to do more harm to a person that just carrying on with it.
@landonle3308
@landonle3308 6 жыл бұрын
Craig Leonard Jones Lynch didn’t even write the straight story he directed that movie as a favor to his now ex wife Mary Sweeney cause she wrote it
@ERMediaOfficial
@ERMediaOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best analysis videos about the show. Good job, well done :)
@joshuafletcher4501
@joshuafletcher4501 4 жыл бұрын
Wow what a great video, well done!
@shane_l8085
@shane_l8085 6 жыл бұрын
Spot on. Cooper did still visit Twin Peaks though he visited to investigate her disappearance.
@thetake
@thetake 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@shmackatrotsky5394
@shmackatrotsky5394 6 жыл бұрын
also, cooper and the fbi were already investigating the murder of teresa banks prior to the disappearance of laura, which would bring cooper to twin peaks as well, i believe.
@DasPuppy
@DasPuppy 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@watertommyz
@watertommyz 6 жыл бұрын
There are moments in the show that couldn't exist without the original, but at the same time, these new moments now stand on their own in this iteration, because David Lynch wasn't afraid to make something different and challenging out of the mold. I loved the new characters, as much as the old. For the most part, I think it was a pretty satisfactory revival, return, and perhaps a final goodbye. The mystery is now eternal, looped, and self aware.
@12ealDealOfficial
@12ealDealOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
One thing I like about the the return is that there's no common consensus regarding it's quality.
@blacklisted351
@blacklisted351 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe not among fans, but I'd say there is among the critics Almost every episode has 100% on rotten tomatoes
@12ealDealOfficial
@12ealDealOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
@@blacklisted351 Critics fawn over the ostensibly postmodern for culture reasons, though I don't think Lynch was making that kind of statement at all.
@matthewhardwick8208
@matthewhardwick8208 6 жыл бұрын
I feared that a modernised Twin Peaks wouldn't be as good ... but how wrong was I :)
@scottianson5133
@scottianson5133 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your excellent upload.
@OmegaReviews
@OmegaReviews 6 жыл бұрын
Twin Peaks The Retrun is a gift that keeps on giving and this video is testament to that. There are so many ways one can deconstruct and discern meaning for themselves.
@AstrOlenna
@AstrOlenna 6 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the original. I was way too young to be watching something like that, but I absolutely loved it.
@Kershmey
@Kershmey 6 жыл бұрын
What got me started on Lynch was seeing 'Fire Walk With Me' on tv late at night when I was like, 10. Blew my mind.
@gillethsandico
@gillethsandico 5 жыл бұрын
Omg same. But it was delicious!
@mattieeilers
@mattieeilers 6 жыл бұрын
What an excellent analysis. I’m so glad they didn’t just give us fan service. I became even more obsessed with the show this new season.
@hexdragon_
@hexdragon_ 4 жыл бұрын
3 years of sorrow. I can go now. Thank you.
@tobiseitz
@tobiseitz 6 жыл бұрын
This video was one of the most plausible and comprehensible analyses of the return that I’ve seen - thanks!
@CMHobbies
@CMHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos on the Return I’ve seen. Well done!
@jaydawg116
@jaydawg116 4 жыл бұрын
Season one and two were difficult but really intriguing, slow and rewarding, off putting due to being a mix of being a soap opera but also a crime thriller with the supernatural. Season 3 felt like a test wether or not you were a true fan. It was painful, excruciatingly so because you kept having to put your faith in it that it would pay off. And it DID!
@msbookgal
@msbookgal 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Well done.
@emilwoerner4905
@emilwoerner4905 6 жыл бұрын
Keep this Lynch stuff coming!
@petersonj198
@petersonj198 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent look back at 'The Return' and adds perspective
@odinson99m
@odinson99m 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of that is very on point, and while I agree with most of it, THE #1 reason why this return, or "revival", is so important to the fans, me being one of them, is, without a doubt closure. The original series ending on so many cliffhangers, not the least of which was the fate of Cooper, that to finally get a window back into that world gave hope there would FINALLY be closure. And while some questions were answered, many more were posed, and THERE in lies the genius of David Lynch and Mark Frost. A++
@teaguehansberry3135
@teaguehansberry3135 6 жыл бұрын
Like the origonal show's ending this third season of Twin Peaks ended with a major WTF ending with nothing really resolved! Just David Lynch's unfailing artistic ablity to drag the veiwer on with a "nostalgic carrot" dangling over our heads, and when the scene drags on too long and we turn away David smacks us with the carrot!
@brianchidester3334
@brianchidester3334 6 жыл бұрын
I also think "The Return" expanded the cosmos, or mythology, of the "Twin Peaks" world, often taking leave of it to show what lies beneath it, or informs it. The vision is ultimately a bleak one, sort of based in the old Greek notion of fate, which Aristotle later called "eidos." The idea being that things contain a certain internal form, call it information, which cannot be altered through personal will, but which eventually unfold in their natural, unalterable course. I saw the ritualistic aspect of "The Return," with things like the golden ball, to be Cooper's attempt to roll back Laura's murder through occultic means, which he never fully accomplishes. Nothing can actually stop that murder because there is a certain unalterable fate to the town of Twin Peaks, which is only understood by taking leave of it, then returning.
@amdhd6990
@amdhd6990 6 жыл бұрын
just something i've been wondering about. when cooper is back in 89 and laura sees him in the forest, then she screams. why did she scream in the original scene? that scene is from fire walk with me right?
@NicheCaesar
@NicheCaesar 6 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, Laura sees Bob in the bushes, prompting her scream.
@amdhd6990
@amdhd6990 6 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Caesar I see. But it plays nicely with Cooper too. Perfect actually
@NicheCaesar
@NicheCaesar 6 жыл бұрын
Samuel Fabiny definitely! It’s almost eerie.
@CrunchyWaluigi
@CrunchyWaluigi 6 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Caesar Actually, we don’t see what she see’s at all in the original scene, she just kind of screams. James looks back but we don’t actually get a shot of the forest to see what’s there. I think it’s was more of an overwhelming emotional build up and explosion just at that moment. (Considering everything she has been through up until that point in the movie) Or she see’s her fate inside her head at that moment and realizes how horrifying it will be. But it also did play nicely with Cooper being there.
@Kershmey
@Kershmey 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed, in the original scene she simply looks off into the distance, sees something off camera, and shrieks. Having it be Cooper cowering in the woods rocked my effing world.
@penbucket
@penbucket 6 жыл бұрын
fantastic essay.
@sebastianx13
@sebastianx13 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks
@lynxminx4
@lynxminx4 5 жыл бұрын
I was afraid to start the series out of fear that the nostalgia would be painful, so I was pleasantly surprised on that count....but I definitely missed narrative formality. The new series, in trying to make the story bigger, actually made it smaller....by turning Laura Palmer into a magical girl, for one thing. And GOD DAMN IT I was ready to smash my laptop by the time Lynch was done with Chauncey Avant-Gardiner....
@alphablitz1024
@alphablitz1024 6 жыл бұрын
So the scene where Bobby cries in part 4? This video reads that as a deferred payoff, a bit of nostalgia that Twin Peaks had earned by this point. To me, it was intolerably saccharine, and I think that was the point. Bobby is crying, and the music *finally* comes back into what has been a mostly quiet show to this point, but it felt so embarrassingly out of place to me. To me, in that moment, Lynch was saying, "Here it is. This is what you thought you wanted. Doesn't work anymore, does it?" From that moment on, I finally gave up on what I wanted out of Season 3, and just let it be what it was. So I totally agree with this this video's thesis that Lynch didn't care about revival at all. I just got there in a different way.
@thetake
@thetake 6 жыл бұрын
lol thanks for the new perspective
@BruceWayne-zj1kw
@BruceWayne-zj1kw 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why people think Lynch has this contempt and animosity toward the audience and intentionally fucks with them in the way you claim.
@youthproblem671
@youthproblem671 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't come from contempt, though.
@revdckmz
@revdckmz 6 жыл бұрын
Anyway, there were other moments which were a huge payoff, like diane presentation, cooper awakes, reunion in the sheriff station,...
@dertdood
@dertdood 6 жыл бұрын
+Bruce Wayne do you not think the scene where the vegas cops find out dougies prints match a missing fbi agent and laugh and bin the paper was intentionally meant to be frustrating to certain viewers?
@syahnazjasmine1124
@syahnazjasmine1124 6 жыл бұрын
i've just been watching the godfather part 1 and 2, i think vito and michael needs a special breakdown on how they run their intelligence with michael being more vicious than his predecessor... its a worth video and many people will like it ! :)
@blinisse3216
@blinisse3216 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people seem angry about TP: The Return cause of all the "plot holes" and useless stories which went no where. However, you incense the first two seasons whereas it had a lot of useless and shitty stories. I'm talking about the Horne's Secession War, James trip with a woman, Shelly and Bobby having fun with Leo... After episode 10, you can clearly jump the next 10 episodes. I know Lynch went away at that time but still, not a lot of episodes were that good. It was twin peaks's world wich was awesome. So in the end, season 3 wasn't as bad as season 2 and not a lot of narrative arcs were pointless, some were very funny with a lot of excentric characters. The universe of Twin Peaks got expanded, maybe that's not what everyone wanted (clearly). Plus, there was only 2 or 3 things "hard" to understand and I need to remind that not EVERYTHING has to make sense in the larger story, in our world everything doesn't make sense either. Just let go and stop always wondering about everything and their place in the show, some things do not have to be explained but juste accepted.
@ZacharySire
@ZacharySire 6 жыл бұрын
This is excellent thank you
@thetake
@thetake 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@thehindumuse
@thehindumuse 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and thanks to the comments. I'm never watching The Return now.
@ColeFang23x
@ColeFang23x 4 жыл бұрын
Don't like using your brain? Try watching something with a laugh track, it tells you when to open the mouth and make air come out. Seems like something you might need.
@hophmanbg
@hophmanbg 4 жыл бұрын
Thats cool go watch Bollywood and stay there!
@thehindumuse
@thehindumuse 4 жыл бұрын
Some really salty people out here 🤷🏻‍♂️ I know you want to put others through same misery but I'm hardly inclined to ruin my Twin Peaks experience
@hophmanbg
@hophmanbg 4 жыл бұрын
@@thehindumuse yes you are so clever and sugary go watch another review of someone who has ruined their experience
@thehindumuse
@thehindumuse 4 жыл бұрын
@@hophmanbg Fix that fragile ego or a TV show would be the least of your concerns
@Rik-B
@Rik-B 6 жыл бұрын
Beautifully edited analysis of a series that people will talk about in years and years to come. I think with this you were as close to the core of Twin Peaks as you can get. It's a series that knows it's a series and comments on that frequently.
@shkeni
@shkeni 6 жыл бұрын
That was a very good video. Man, that ending still gives me chills.
@dawngrrrl
@dawngrrrl 6 жыл бұрын
I just started the video and I'm already hype af 🙌🌲🌲🍒☕💀
@kimmolaine8069
@kimmolaine8069 6 жыл бұрын
Great analysis.
@samuidesune
@samuidesune 6 жыл бұрын
So good. Bravo.
@thetake
@thetake 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@VideoMusicManiacPlace
@VideoMusicManiacPlace 6 жыл бұрын
Great job.
@CoopDVille-rx3hp
@CoopDVille-rx3hp 3 жыл бұрын
Bobby Briggs seeing Laura's picture and getting all misty about it read to me like kind of a parody of the show's first couple of episodes. Laura's murder kicks off the series, so it takes a few episodes for everyone to stop crying.
@aquarius555
@aquarius555 6 жыл бұрын
That was great!
@thetake
@thetake 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@eduardo_corrochio
@eduardo_corrochio 3 жыл бұрын
Good insights. Had Lynch given viewers something very like what he already had made, we would've been disappointed; and we would've been disappointed if he'd done something completely different. Instead, he walked the fine line between familiar and completely unheard of stuff, and that was the right thing to do. As with most things Lynchian, I enjoy the ride and the view and the sounds; but I can't get bogged down analyzing everything or seeking meanings ... life's too brief! LOL
@DJdext
@DJdext 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. It expressed what has been knocking around my brain since season 3 ended.
@davemicheal9466
@davemicheal9466 6 жыл бұрын
Great analysis
@PatrickHogan
@PatrickHogan 6 жыл бұрын
Can I just say, the Twin Peaks parody episode of Psych is one of the greatest things ever?
@NicheCaesar
@NicheCaesar 6 жыл бұрын
Patrick Hogan definitely. Psych is insanely underrated and the Twin Peaks episode is probably my favorite of the bunch. The best part for me is when Ray Wise’s character shows up and his hair has apparently turned white since the last time we saw him. I wish that show was still on Netflix.
@PatrickHogan
@PatrickHogan 6 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Caesar Agreed. One of the funniest shows I’ve ever seen.
@chibiktsn3
@chibiktsn3 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@thetake
@thetake 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it
@robotdeathderby
@robotdeathderby 3 жыл бұрын
that final scream after hearing mrs palmer call for laura made up for all the long drawn out dougie scenes.
@TheDragonSmasher
@TheDragonSmasher 6 жыл бұрын
fantastic analysis. your videos are always so clear, well-spoken and nicely visual.
@lordoftheviolin
@lordoftheviolin 4 жыл бұрын
Profound insights! 🌹🥰☀️😎
@giorgosgeorgopoulos7666
@giorgosgeorgopoulos7666 5 жыл бұрын
one word can describe this series... unique!!! is there any explanation about laura's scream and what that woman had whispered to cooper??
@kilgoretrout8896
@kilgoretrout8896 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing video.
@thetake
@thetake 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Nice username by the way
@woahhhluv
@woahhhluv 8 ай бұрын
perfectly put!
@cra0cristal
@cra0cristal 6 жыл бұрын
The Return's episode 8 was stunning.
@rellman85
@rellman85 4 жыл бұрын
Very intelligent analysis.
@thehightable5995
@thehightable5995 6 жыл бұрын
Guys, could make a video about how David Fincher makes his movies?
@amdhd6990
@amdhd6990 6 жыл бұрын
fincher not lynch
@MrRCSGamer
@MrRCSGamer 6 жыл бұрын
nerdwriter
@steveayres49
@steveayres49 2 жыл бұрын
this video needs to give Mark Frost some credit
@brunovieirafairas6464
@brunovieirafairas6464 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite Tv show!
@squall6789
@squall6789 6 жыл бұрын
While some of the nostalgia was done well, I still remember watching many bits that felt like nothing much more than fan service. I gave Lynch the benefit of the doubt but many of these appearances went no where and for only there for nostalgia. I found it kinda frustrating given how slow the Dougie stuff was moving along. Felt like precious show minutes were being wasted on unrelated info.
@element1111
@element1111 6 жыл бұрын
I swear you can cut out like 70% of the this season and you won't actually lose out on anything important
@nikitas1841
@nikitas1841 6 жыл бұрын
That's what I felt too. Everything seems so disconnected and unimportant. I watched all of it trying to make sense of things and relate to the characters. Didn't work. It's just a load of bullshit. The fans will say that I should go watch something more simplistic because new TP is too complicated for plebs like me, but I really can't understand anything from what they are saying apart from the fact that they are mostly a bunch of pretentious fucks who really like to lick David Lynch's ass.
@CrunchyWaluigi
@CrunchyWaluigi 6 жыл бұрын
Nikita Paklin Agreed. So much of this season was unimportant is unnecessarily disconnected.
@Kershmey
@Kershmey 6 жыл бұрын
Expecting a traditionally structured narrative from Lynch at this point in his career suggests you've likely missed his later films, which- while exceedingly strange and by no means action packed- are exceptional and worth a close look. It's unquestionable that the third season of Twin Peaks lacks mainstream appeal, and that's no accident. It's quite obvious in many scenes that Lynch is intentionally testing your patience, for the semi-sadistic pleasure of doing so I'd wager, and as a sort of filter too I'd bet. There's a few things you need to take into account here: 1. Lynch is an old man in his Twilight. 2. This project is exceedingly personal; the inspiration of his youth that was stolen by producers reclaimed. 3. He demanded, and thus was given complete creative freedom. Those factors combine into a perfect storm of 'No F*cks Given.' He didn't make season 3 for you, or me, or money, or fame- he made it for him, and Mark Frost, and the cast/his friends, and I think in particular Catherine Coulson, his dear friend who always wanted to return to the character, but they all knew didn't have long to live. He doesn't give a damn about entertaining everybody, or most people, or anybody really; you like it and can appreciate it or you don't and you can't, in which case here's a three minute scene of a guy sweeping a floor in which to power on your cellphone and stream a marvel movie instead. That, I feel, was Lynch's attitude in making Season 3. Yes its cavalier, yes it's pretentious, but it's also more than earned, and really quite brilliant in its own right.
@squall6789
@squall6789 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I should definitely look at it through the prism of Lynch including old cast members for friendship's sake rather than the fans. It feels better than him doing it appease fans, but some of those moments with the original cast still feel the most out of place and gratuitous, even more than a random person sweeping for a few minutes. Not all of them were bad, as long as they assisted the tone, pace or story it seemed fine, but when the scenes service none of those I'm pulled out of the story and start wondering who/what those scenes are servicing. And I love how having a negative reaction to a minuscule part of the whole series is enough to get a "go watch a marvel film" reaction. I'm not trying to diminish the argument, I've probably used it for less, it's just funny how we throw that around the second anything is criticised.
@eliniatollea
@eliniatollea 6 жыл бұрын
What disappointed me most were the visual effects. I am not sure it it was deliberate or if they were running out of funds. They could've done better.
@juanbc5326
@juanbc5326 5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@mikescott433
@mikescott433 4 жыл бұрын
...great review! thx...
@cejannuzi
@cejannuzi 7 ай бұрын
Lynch says Dune was his biggest mistake. But I have to think the finish to season 1 of Twin Peaks and much of season 2 was even more colossal. I think he wanted to make all that right with 2-3 Twin Peaks films. But because Fire Walk With Me flopped so badly, he couldn't. But by embracing digital and the new media, he worked hard to make season 3 a triumph. I think it was in the sense that he got a long miniseries with a large budget. I don't think it worked as anything but an extravagant visual shaggy dog story though.
@EnGeeZee
@EnGeeZee 5 жыл бұрын
Massive respect for the Psych reference.
@mfhava
@mfhava 5 жыл бұрын
The Return just killed Twin Peaks for me. When I heard that they are going to continue the series after 25 years I was hyped - finally some closure I thought. But what did we get? A season that is, as some fans put it, "pure Lynch". I guess that is fine for those who wanted a series called "Twin Peaks: The Return" to be nothing but pure Lynch, but those who wanted a series called "Twin Peaks: The Return" to be anything like the original series were sorely disappointed. Before watching the new series I actually re-watched all of the original series to get in the right mood for Twin Peaks - what a shame that there was zero payoff for that effort...
@rae-everything
@rae-everything 2 жыл бұрын
The first few seasons are also "pure Lynch".
@leopark3563
@leopark3563 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so fucking over the obsession with nostalgia these days. TP season 3 and Blade Runner 2049 were the only ones that were actually be able to do revivals right.
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