Twin Peaks: The Return - A Critique of Nostalgia

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The Take

The Take

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@thetake
@thetake 7 жыл бұрын
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@paisan8766
@paisan8766 7 жыл бұрын
See my comment below about the books you ignored
@rolandbaldwin
@rolandbaldwin 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing my request. I'm so glad you made this.
@middaymeds
@middaymeds 7 жыл бұрын
ScreenPrism...want to see next
@andylikesstuffchannel
@andylikesstuffchannel 2 жыл бұрын
Lynch genius
@seppukusushi2848
@seppukusushi2848 2 ай бұрын
You mispronounced "genre" and season 1 & 2 were more than just soap opera and melodrama influenced. Film Noir was another BIG influence, but you probably don't even know what that is because you're some zoomer kid.
@caiquemarlon5579
@caiquemarlon5579 5 жыл бұрын
Laura's scream and the shutting off of the lights in the end of part 18 is one of the scariest things I've seen. It may not be the intention, but it is
@maxmonas7131
@maxmonas7131 3 жыл бұрын
It was the intention.
@imtheitchyouneedtoscratch
@imtheitchyouneedtoscratch 3 жыл бұрын
I agree and to me that scream was most chilling and frightful of the whole 18 episodes of the Return.
@btrixlestrange
@btrixlestrange 3 жыл бұрын
i agree, that was so haunting
@stephensimington479
@stephensimington479 Жыл бұрын
LAURA!!😟
@UGLY-MONEY17
@UGLY-MONEY17 Жыл бұрын
It was probably intentional lol knowing lynch
@dont_follow5777
@dont_follow5777 6 жыл бұрын
Unmurdering Laura was the gutsiest move in tv history.
@benwasserman8223
@benwasserman8223 7 жыл бұрын
This season was like an anti-nostalgia middle finger that got more insane with every episode. And I loved it!
@beyondz55
@beyondz55 7 жыл бұрын
Ben Wasserman right on, and I love your Ash with Boomstick profile pic. Fuckin love that movie.
@eminkerim7859
@eminkerim7859 6 жыл бұрын
I wanna binge watch it now, can I do it without watching the original serie?
@CoreyHackathorn
@CoreyHackathorn 5 жыл бұрын
@@eminkerim7859 you probably shouldnt. the original series is what this one is playing off of.
@wvu05
@wvu05 4 жыл бұрын
@@eminkerim7859 To paraphrase another cult classic from the decade whose dream is alive in a different Northwestern city with Kyle McLachlan, you'd be like a child wandering into the middle of a movie and wondering... they posted the next round of the tournament?
@raccoonjs6437
@raccoonjs6437 4 жыл бұрын
what Star Wars sequel trilogy should have been.
@nishthaarora9533
@nishthaarora9533 3 жыл бұрын
The murder of Laura Palmer was never supposed to be solved. Damn it feels good to hear Lynch say it. I felt this while I was first watching the show, I felt something shift and the show change when Laura's murderer was revealed. Can't believe how frustrating it must have been for Lynch and his team when the studio pressured them into changing the storyline. They killed the concept.
@Serai3
@Serai3 Жыл бұрын
Dude, he's been saying it since the second season aired. Where have you been?
@nishthaarora9533
@nishthaarora9533 Жыл бұрын
@@Serai3 been rewatching season 1
@chrisjfox8715
@chrisjfox8715 11 ай бұрын
Well to be fair that shift that you felt wasn't just because of the murder being revealed. It's also because Lynch literally left the show because he didn't want to be a part of it after that. Those that remained had to find the show's new way without him And to be honest there's nothing wrong with losing a show's hook or mystery as long as you've come up with a better one to take its place. In my opinion I started to get good again once the Wyndham Earl episode started to kick in
@lucasgagliardi433
@lucasgagliardi433 3 ай бұрын
Literally, the funeral episode after solving the mystery felt like screenwriters trying to push potencial new plot points to move the series. There's random people teasing you with information through all the episode. It was baffling.
@MrRagnarxx
@MrRagnarxx 3 ай бұрын
season 2 of twin peaks is garbage until the last few episodes. tv was not ready
@nickcherries
@nickcherries 7 жыл бұрын
Love the use of the "what the hell" meme
@btrixlestrange
@btrixlestrange 3 жыл бұрын
where do i find said meme?
@lord_roque
@lord_roque 7 жыл бұрын
The finale obliterated me emotionally.
@CloneCommandos101
@CloneCommandos101 7 жыл бұрын
Same here, watching it on acid and smoking a bowl is not recommended! Though I don't really regret it. It's one of those once in a lifetime experiences that will stick with me forever.
@quizzicalsebag
@quizzicalsebag 7 жыл бұрын
chap 18 left me feeling empty
@vegangurly
@vegangurly 6 жыл бұрын
CloneCommandos101 sad that you had to alter your state of mind to enjoy it :( you should have gone in raw brother.
@robyortichella7412
@robyortichella7412 6 жыл бұрын
kouka not alone
@Dakonaton
@Dakonaton 6 жыл бұрын
I felt it was purposefully desolate and isolating in order to put us in the same kind of mindset as Cooper is at the end when he seems to be at a loss.
@dustingd1
@dustingd1 7 жыл бұрын
Ugh that look on Cooper's face when he asks, "What year is this?" followed by Laura's signature scream sends pure uncertainty, fear and ultimately chills through my body. Then the theme "Dark Space Low" as the credits roll with a sad and confused Cooper back in the Lodge is fucking soul crushing. What a trip.
@vicenteortegarubilar9418
@vicenteortegarubilar9418 7 жыл бұрын
The original series was one of my dad's favourite series, at first I didn't get it, but he forced me to watch it a second time and ooooh my, it was worth it.
@beflygelt
@beflygelt 7 жыл бұрын
Vicente Ortega Rubilar one of the most rewarding series ever, and a lot of the reward comes from rewatches
@Rafi-bu3ci
@Rafi-bu3ci 7 жыл бұрын
what is there to ‘get’?
@NoOne-ky1er
@NoOne-ky1er 6 жыл бұрын
Nebojsa Pantelic To you. To me it is supersedes TP season 2.
@mackey-5438
@mackey-5438 6 жыл бұрын
Typical superficial response to a work of art (TPTR) that will be analyzed and debated for years to come.
@g13n79
@g13n79 4 жыл бұрын
Who's your Dad, Leland Palmer? Jeez I hope he turned the fan on
@BloodyEyes91
@BloodyEyes91 7 жыл бұрын
The Return was so fantastic. I feel sorry for everybody that gave up on it after only a few episodes because Lynch/Frost didn't immediately pander to what everyone wanted.
@SENATORPAIN1
@SENATORPAIN1 6 жыл бұрын
season 3 was absolute garbage with zero redeemable features.
@archaic9525
@archaic9525 6 жыл бұрын
+Goochy. I found someone who gave up at episode 14 because 'Cooper is not back yet!'
@jernie9384
@jernie9384 6 жыл бұрын
Charles Foster Kane I honestly don't understand that "It's pure lynch" argument. First off, lynch didn't made twin peaks completely on his own. Second, I personally don't want more Lynch. I want more Twin Peaks. Not repeated, just continued. Don't get me wrong, I generally love lynchs work but couldn't he just made another Movie ? Just something else to experement with.
@jernie9384
@jernie9384 6 жыл бұрын
Charles Foster Kane Seems like we just have a different take of the series which is perfectly fine. The original series was just something that spoke to me. I adore it with every cell of my body. I just been disappointed that the revival was not made the way I wanted it to be but that's ok, I guess.
@youtubesuresuckscock
@youtubesuresuckscock 5 жыл бұрын
@@SENATORPAIN1 No shit. Pasting the original actor who played Bob's head onto a CG balloon was not only pathetic and incompetent but completely insulting to the original actor. It was just trash. It wasn't even technically competent.
@thejon93rd
@thejon93rd 7 жыл бұрын
This is the greatest season of any television series that I have ever experienced and currently stands as my all-time favourite work from David Lynch. If this season does not clean-sweep EVERY awards show this season, I'm going to be absolutely furious. Kyle MacLachlan deserves Best Actor for this role too. He literally has SEVEN DIFFERENT VERSIONS to this one character that he's playing throughout: (1) the Dale Cooper we all know from the original series (fully realized in Part 16), (2) the discombobulated "Dougie Coop" that we had for most of the season (up to the end of Part 15), (3) the first Dougie Jones (the "this is weird" version), (4) the second Dougie Jones (the one we saw briefly in Part 17, when he's reunited with Sonny Jim and Janey-E), (5) the altered Dale Cooper a.k.a. Richard (who noticeably changes when passing through the alternate dimension with Diane in Part 17), (6) the "dream-version" of Cooper (his face being super-imposed on the screen during Part 17, he also shows up during Gordon's Monica Bellucci dream) and, last but not least, (7) Cooper's doppelganger/Mr. C. I don't see many actors being able to pull off such a complex, multi-faceted role as Cooper during The Return, but Kyle MacLachlan does it masterfully, and he deserves HUGE kudos for that IMO. Seriously, watching him go from playing the most evil son of a bitch in the world (Mr. C) to being the most wholehearted character of all-time (Dougie Coop) was so exhilarating. This season gave me a brand-new appreciation for Kyle MacLachlan (and I already loved the guy after the first-two seasons of Twin Peaks). I really, really hope to see him cast in more movies and shows after this incredible effort (hell, it's wonderful to see Laura Dern starring in another Blockbuster, alike Jurassic Park, with Star Wars: The Last Jedi about to come out). I adore this season and, as much as I'd love to see a fourth season (if anything, just to see more of the original Cooper we had back briefly during Parts 16-17), I have no quarrels with this being the final curtain for Twin Peaks. Thank you so very much for this out-fucking-standing series, David Lynch. You truly are the master.
@SENATORPAIN1
@SENATORPAIN1 7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Abbott sorry but you are delusional living in a dream world.twin peaks 3 was amateur hour.
@thejon93rd
@thejon93rd 7 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah. I agree with you too. It's a shame that most people will never get the pleasure of experiencing anything in Lynchland. Most people these days wanna be handed immediate nostalgic-goodness (hence why the Star Wars movies are such box-office bangers because "oh, lightsabers!") and they don't want to be challenged by anything that they watch because it's "too much homework". I, for one, love trying to wrap my brain around this season. I still don't get it, probably never will, yet that's why I love it: because I will always find something new to take away from it (no matter how many times I watch it), and that's why it's my favourite season of any TV series... period.
@quizzicalsebag
@quizzicalsebag 7 жыл бұрын
and of course, it got snubbed by the golden globes
@kyoung21b
@kyoung21b 6 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Abbott - While I pretty much agree with most of how you feel about TP, I’d say that that’s a pretty minority view and that TP fans should probably get used to it not winning many awards. Also if TP fans want to avoid being tweaked by comments like that of the troll who responded to your comment they should get used to the Tourette’s like comments of the masses who will never get Lynch. He has certainly made peace with this and doesn’t care much about broad appeal provided he continues to get his projects funded. And no matter what one thinks of his views I think his work stands a chance of surviving historically as great art.
@Talalay99
@Talalay99 6 жыл бұрын
I like David Lynch a lot but his die-hard fans are insufferable.
@IndieAuthorX
@IndieAuthorX 5 жыл бұрын
I think this is a great video on a great show, but I disagree on Cooper's return. I think it is horrifying. There is a parallel between it and Mulholland Drive. When Cooper is back with his new friends in a Jet and on his way to Twin Peaks, I get a sense of deja vu. It feels like when Betty is in the Taxi with her grandparents after winning the jitterbug contest and getting a ticket to Hollywood. There is a sappy sense of uncomfortably prolonged happiness that begins to make the viewer uncomfortable. Like a dream, the dreamer often is aware when a dream is going to turn into a nightmare. I do not think that it is a coincidence that the show got much darker after the red herring(or golden shovel) of Cooper waking up.
@DarkAngelEU
@DarkAngelEU 7 жыл бұрын
That scream is the only thing that brought me back to Twin Peaks. Laura's horror is the soul of this series and alot of people seem to have forgotten that this is what the original series was about. That's what made it so good. People like to forget misery and just ravel in mystery instead.
@WhoopsieDayZ
@WhoopsieDayZ 4 жыл бұрын
I really don't agree with this take. "People like to forget misery and just ravel in mystery instead." This is completely false, as Lynch's main criticism for the show was always the end of the main mystery. It's the other way around. People want answers, want to know what everything means and "who killed Laura". But the POINT of the show was always the mystery itself, ever expanding. By demanding answers to the mystery, the audience killed the show. This is the irony of Twin Peaks.
@DarkAngelEU
@DarkAngelEU 4 жыл бұрын
@@WhoopsieDayZ You're right that the executives demanded Lynch to reveal the answer to what it all meant, but I am speaking of the people who try to make sense of Twin Peaks as something clearly defined, ie using everything in the series as a clue or a symbol to extract a deeper, more complex, divine(?) truth about Twin Peaks as if it were a holy scripture. There are many channels dedicated to discussing Twin Peaks, and even as The Return has ended some years ago, they still make x-hour-long videos where they explain THE TRUTH or "how it finally all makes sense(!)".
@WhoopsieDayZ
@WhoopsieDayZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@DarkAngelEU Not everything in Twin Peaks is clearly defined, but a lot of it is there for us to figure out. Lynch left many clues that can be interpreted to understand the context of the show. For example, no one can dispute that the show is a meta story about television itself. Where the characters are actually inside a TV show. Hence the importance of the woodsmen, electricity etc.
@DarkAngelEU
@DarkAngelEU 4 жыл бұрын
@@WhoopsieDayZ It is a meta story, not about "television itself", but about "television as well". You're trying to reduce it to a single perspective and that's my whole point, you have to accept the show in its entirety, that means multiple perspectives and aspects, or you will never be able to enjoy it as an experience.
@WhoopsieDayZ
@WhoopsieDayZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@DarkAngelEU Yeah but all those perspectives you're talking about are subjective. It's what you feel and think while watching. If you look past that, there are clues you can find, evidence, to find certain truths under the surface. I mean, Lynch is literally in the show guiding us (the agents) along to encourage us to find clues and solve the puzzle. You should watch the log lady intro's, in those Lynch basically tells us this and tells the audience "yes, there are actual answers to be found and there are clues to follow." Same for the FWWM intro with the blue rose and all.
@BarrocoTarot
@BarrocoTarot 7 жыл бұрын
Is true we want the same thing but life is change.
@veilofreality
@veilofreality 6 жыл бұрын
nice avatar
@Red_Lanterns_Rage
@Red_Lanterns_Rage 6 жыл бұрын
naww, we wanted resolution to Cooper and the black lodge as well as how the hell did Audrey survive?? remember, she was chained up to the bank vault as that bomb went off??? eh I never expected the same show all over again, the IRL town has changed, people changed, the world changed and there won't ever be explanations of every little thing but you can do the big ones right?? or is that too much to ask?? IDK, new series was rightfully weird but I feel like it was a big friggin example of let's waste all our allotted time and not explain the big mystery but insert a whole new plot and follow that then we get the ball rolling then it stops as soon as it started..... show had too many false starts IMO, the original was weird as hell but they got the ball rolling from the very start and it never really stopped ugh
@mmmanutd
@mmmanutd 5 жыл бұрын
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage what do you mean with "we"? Because in my personal opinion the third season is one of the best things Lynch has ever made, and I'm not the only one who thinks like that. The third season explores new things and characters and problematics, and even explores new styles in Lynch's cinematography, the 8th epidose is the most obvious one, it has a really strong Kubrick inspiration. The third season goes deeper into Twin Peaks' world, it's obvious that it's going to be weirder, weirder and more complex. The best way to make and idea sink-in in movies it's using metaphores and especific phrases and dialogues, the more complex it is the deeper it reachs. If Lynch instead of doing such a complex story would have made it way more simple and half of the things would have been told in a very detailed dialogue do you know boring and incomprensive it would have been? It doesn't cause the same effect, it feels more frivolous (I don't know if people use that word or not, I'm using Google Translate) and careless, like it's not really important, it doesn't sinks in at all. Sorry for bad spelling, english's not my mother tongue
@wvu05
@wvu05 4 жыл бұрын
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage You mean you didn't like seeing Gordon and Albert (which was especially poignant given that Miguel Ferrer didn't live to see the premiere, but he was pretty much the only actor in that category able to do more than one scene or more than one setting)? Seeing how Mike was slowly helping Cooper find himself? While there were parts that did move at a glacial pace, it had some seriously amazing moments, and it certainly held up better than the ten or so episodes after the Laura Palmer mystery was solved.
@bea4828
@bea4828 3 жыл бұрын
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage we did get resolution to Cooper and the black lodge. It's okay to not explain what happened to Audrey because not everything needs to be completely explained to us.
@oily.4608
@oily.4608 7 жыл бұрын
Twin Peaks is not your typical tv show
@danielistic49
@danielistic49 7 жыл бұрын
it's not your typical... anything.
@eminkerim7859
@eminkerim7859 6 жыл бұрын
I wanna binge watch it now, can I do it without watching the original serie?
@panterxbeats
@panterxbeats 6 жыл бұрын
don't binge it, and don't watch it without watching the original series
@jernie9384
@jernie9384 6 жыл бұрын
Emin Kerim Why do you want to skip the original ?
@eminkerim7859
@eminkerim7859 6 жыл бұрын
Sonic Blue too much time
@jmalmsten
@jmalmsten 7 жыл бұрын
I'm still not sure it wasn't all about the bunny...
@menteencoma
@menteencoma 7 жыл бұрын
It definitely was
@isakdahl7054
@isakdahl7054 4 жыл бұрын
jmalmsten Wait, what bunny again? I don’t recall a bunny...
@The1Dragonprincess
@The1Dragonprincess 4 жыл бұрын
Isak Dahl Short Films There was a scene when Lucy, Hawk, and Andy were investigating the whereabouts of Agent Cooper, looking through old files and stuff related to him. And Lucy admitted to have eaten one of the chocolate bunnies on the desk, wondering if that might have anything to do with what they’re looking for. At first Hawk said no, but then questioned if it is about the bunny. It’s also a callback to when Cooper was in Twin Peaks he recorded to Diane holding the box as if it were important.
@keef7224
@keef7224 4 жыл бұрын
The1Dragonprincess Lucy ate the bunny evidence way back in the original series, because she thought chocolate was a Native American cure for gas. Also, Jackrabbit’s Palace is another obvious bunny reference, and that’s where they have to go in the end to complete Major Briggs’ plan. Also, there’s a very cool 4.5 hour TP analysis video on YT now that explains the meta- themes of the show and how a major one is about the superiority of film over TV as a medium (nostalgia again), and it delves way into the symbology of film vs TV technology, even getting into the “rabbit-ears” antennas of TV’s as another possible bunny tie-in. Sounds far fetched I know, but if you watch the whole video you’ll admit that the guy makes some amazing points that are backed by solid evidence that’s hard to refute.
@isakdahl7054
@isakdahl7054 4 жыл бұрын
The1Dragonprincess Oh, right! Thanks! That was a hilarious scene by the way.
@Theolppoman
@Theolppoman 7 жыл бұрын
The Return was unlike anything else, and I loved it
@Drew-vn8rx
@Drew-vn8rx 5 жыл бұрын
Cooper didnt return to the night before Laura was killed, he returned to THE night Laura was killed.
@alphablitz1024
@alphablitz1024 7 жыл бұрын
So the scene where Bobby cries in part 4? This video reads that as a deferred payoff, a bit of nostalgia that Twin Peaks had earned by this point. To me, it was intolerably saccharine, and I think that was the point. Bobby is crying, and the music *finally* comes back into what has been a mostly quiet show to this point, but it felt so embarrassingly out of place to me. To me, in that moment, Lynch was saying, "Here it is. This is what you thought you wanted. Doesn't work anymore, does it?" From that moment on, I finally gave up on what I wanted out of Season 3, and just let it be what it was. So I totally agree with this this video's thesis that Lynch didn't care about revival at all. I just got there in a different way.
@thetake
@thetake 7 жыл бұрын
lol thanks for the new perspective
@BruceWayne-zj1kw
@BruceWayne-zj1kw 7 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why people think Lynch has this contempt and animosity toward the audience and intentionally fucks with them in the way you claim.
@youthproblem671
@youthproblem671 7 жыл бұрын
It doesn't come from contempt, though.
@revdckmz
@revdckmz 7 жыл бұрын
Anyway, there were other moments which were a huge payoff, like diane presentation, cooper awakes, reunion in the sheriff station,...
@dertdood
@dertdood 6 жыл бұрын
+Bruce Wayne do you not think the scene where the vegas cops find out dougies prints match a missing fbi agent and laugh and bin the paper was intentionally meant to be frustrating to certain viewers?
@CrumblyTriscuits
@CrumblyTriscuits 3 жыл бұрын
As a Twin Peaks fan, I didn't need the Return. And going into it, you knew it wasn't going to be the same. Every single episode was worth the wait! 👍
@oneironaut420
@oneironaut420 7 жыл бұрын
So many movies and shows from my youth are being revived and mostly it's been great. But I was struck by how different this new Twin Peaks was and was actually grateful that Lynch did not just pander to fans. This is in stark contrast to The Force Awakens, another continuation from my childhood that was just a re-hash of the older films. If Disney and JJ Abrams had done Twin Peaks, Cooper would have been back by episode 3 in time to solve another murder in Twin Peaks, this time a teenage boy wrapped in plastic.
@godisdeadandwememedhim4174
@godisdeadandwememedhim4174 2 жыл бұрын
I think that he would’ve been brutally killed by Lynch himself .
@zoehardee9518
@zoehardee9518 7 жыл бұрын
no piece of film has ever given me such an empty sinking feeling than part 18, and for that it's utterly perfect
@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures
@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures 4 жыл бұрын
I'd throw the British 1980's TV movie 'Threads' in there for profoundly and deeply felt despairing empty sinking feeling. But you really don't want to watch that. Fortunately Twin Peaks Season Three was also hauntingly beautiful at points, and very funny at others. Phew.
@imtheitchyouneedtoscratch
@imtheitchyouneedtoscratch 3 жыл бұрын
Also with The Avengers Infinity Wars I felt the same .😪😪😪😪
@jaydawg116
@jaydawg116 4 жыл бұрын
Season one and two were difficult but really intriguing, slow and rewarding, off putting due to being a mix of being a soap opera but also a crime thriller with the supernatural. Season 3 felt like a test wether or not you were a true fan. It was painful, excruciatingly so because you kept having to put your faith in it that it would pay off. And it DID!
@pinzazzzz
@pinzazzzz 7 жыл бұрын
I think most people were looking for a clear cut ending and were expecting something along the lines of a typical Hollywood style ending. I've not seen all of Lynch's films, most but not all (haven't watched Dune or The Straight Story) - and the one thing you never get is a typical happy ending. Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive, Inland Empire are all very dream like and nightmareish in some instances - Fire Walk With Me gave us the happy Laura ending, she's smiling with her angel shining down and Cooper by her side in the red room. The Return changes all of that because instead of leaving the past where it should be, we change the past and that leads us into an uncertain future. That's pretty much the message I take away from The Return - you can't change anything, appreciate it for what it is or was, wishing that you could change something has the potential to do more harm to a person that just carrying on with it.
@landonle3308
@landonle3308 6 жыл бұрын
Craig Leonard Jones Lynch didn’t even write the straight story he directed that movie as a favor to his now ex wife Mary Sweeney cause she wrote it
@tesseraph
@tesseraph 6 жыл бұрын
The more I think and read about Twin Peaks: The Return, the more I appreciate it. Thanks for reminding me to think about it.
@bswift1991
@bswift1991 7 жыл бұрын
Man that final 10 seconds or so still makes all my hairs stand up on end. Perfect original show, perfect reboot examining what a reboot is and why we want them. Lynch is a fucking genius. 100% insane but a genius no doubt.
@frequenco5545
@frequenco5545 Жыл бұрын
David Lynch has done a very strange and wonderful thing with Twin Peaks. The scene where Dale Cooper says "I AM the FBI" is art of the highest form. Talking about 'payoff', gosh darn sweet Jesus, that takes the cake.
@wweltz
@wweltz 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis! I was so pleased with the return. When I first heard it announced I was so concerned because nearly every other revival has been so terrible, but 5 minutes into the first episode I was kicking myself for ever doubting David Lynch. I really, really hope he does more television. Streaming tv is the new place for art house cinema and he did such a fantastic job with this.
@thetake
@thetake 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it
@novosphere
@novosphere 7 жыл бұрын
Very insightful video! What keeps me coming back to the show is finding those golden eggs, or mysteries. I've all but forgotten other shows that either give everything away or resolve conflicts in a way to please audiences. This show really demands your attention and rewards it with some of the best experiences and feelings you won't soon forget.
@thetake
@thetake 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@shane_l8085
@shane_l8085 7 жыл бұрын
Spot on. Cooper did still visit Twin Peaks though he visited to investigate her disappearance.
@thetake
@thetake 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@shmackatrotsky5394
@shmackatrotsky5394 7 жыл бұрын
also, cooper and the fbi were already investigating the murder of teresa banks prior to the disappearance of laura, which would bring cooper to twin peaks as well, i believe.
@watertommyz
@watertommyz 6 жыл бұрын
There are moments in the show that couldn't exist without the original, but at the same time, these new moments now stand on their own in this iteration, because David Lynch wasn't afraid to make something different and challenging out of the mold. I loved the new characters, as much as the old. For the most part, I think it was a pretty satisfactory revival, return, and perhaps a final goodbye. The mystery is now eternal, looped, and self aware.
@SinginVampireBlog
@SinginVampireBlog 7 жыл бұрын
Oh my God the return of Agent Cooper was such a massive pay off it literally brought me to tears! This scene was so great - Agent Cooper and the music... it was amazing
@thetake
@thetake 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Airola
@Airola 7 жыл бұрын
I thought the "I am the FBI" line was really corny. I was also disappointed at Cooper being immediately 110% ready after he woke up. The whole scene felt like pointless fan service with not much meat in it. And this really hurts to say as I've been an obsessive fanboy since 1991.
@SinginVampireBlog
@SinginVampireBlog 7 жыл бұрын
Well it might have been corny but still memorable. But would you really wanted him to go through another 4-5 Episodes just to recover? I mean sure they could have just cut the Dougie part but then again I don't think Lynch would have wanted that. Fan Service... maybe but it clearly wasn't pointless. I mean most of the fans who were waiting for Twin Peaks were kinda waiting for Cooper to come back. I mean even as Dougie you could see that he seems to be there somehow. It would have slowed down everything if he hadn't been ready at that time. Sure it was very quick but they had to wrap it all up and sadly you don't have endless time in show business. Maybe Lynch and Frost didn't really know how to bring back Cooper in a more interesting and less rushed or cheesy way but I think that's kind of what they wanted and I think it still makes more sense than the writing in other TV shows nowadays. Then again... can something like Twin Peaks really make sense? Now thinking about it I think I know what you mean but I still feel that it was right at that moment.
@Airola
@Airola 7 жыл бұрын
Well, first of all, those last three episodes had lots of spare time to cut away to give Cooper more room to wake up in a more interesting way. Those episode already had some of the things slowed down to the minimum. For me it would've been way more interesting to watch Cooper slowly come to his senses and even having more reflections to his past as "Dougie" instead of watching Cooper/Richard drive with Laura/Carrie for minutes. For me Cooper as Dougie ended up being much more interesting character than Cooper after waking up ever was and I think that's a truly missed opportunity. Cooper never really reflected on his bad side either. Another missed opportunity. He just ran to the sheriff's station where things were kinda rushed through. I mean, his bad side was there on the ground close to him, all ready to give us some study of psyche in some abstract ways. But no, they did nothing with that. Instead a flying Bob orb happened. What a huge missed opportunity. Secondly, I'm all for artists doing what they want to do. But things aren't good just because artists made what they wanted to make. That's not an excuse. A thing is good when it's good. I mean, you could say the same thing about all of those other TV shows you dismissed when you compared this season to them. They were done by artists. Sometimes a studio producer is an artist too. Many other TV shows are the way they are because their creators wanted to make them like that. So why is it that Twin Peaks gets extra points from being made the way the creators wanted to make it, but other tv shows don't? I have been a huge fan of everything about Twin Peaks since 1991. I've loved to read and write theories about it online as long as I've had access to internet. And I really feel emotional pain in my chest whenever I articulate things I was disappointed with in Season 3. It's like mocking the person you love the most :( However, I truly am glad you and others liked many of the things I didn't like. I didn't hate the season but on the whole it was a disappointment, even though it had brilliant moments here and there (Bob slowly appearing in the mirror, the episode 3 Naido scene, Audrey's cliffhanger even though I very much disliked most of her other scenes, Dougie looking at the statue with the beautiful music playing, Cooper confused and asking what year is this in the final moments of the season etc.) Season 2 remains my favorite season of Twin Peaks and season 3 is my least favorite.
@MMoESTV
@MMoESTV 6 жыл бұрын
isn't everything agent cooper says Corny? I thought that was the best thing about the character.
@nacierkan
@nacierkan 7 жыл бұрын
06:45 even if Cooper saved Laura's life, she was still missing so we may think that he came to Twin Peaks to investigate her missing situation, not her death.
@mellors
@mellors 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video SP. The love and respect for Peaks shines through in both your videos on it.
@thetake
@thetake 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael!
@RealBradMiller
@RealBradMiller 7 жыл бұрын
Bring on more Twin Peaks!
@HeviErkka
@HeviErkka 7 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they will. On the other hand Lynch is 71 years old and the new season needed 5 years to make. So this might be all we ever get.
@thomasfamily42
@thomasfamily42 6 жыл бұрын
Saw a story a couple months ago....probably no more
@Tychoxi
@Tychoxi 7 жыл бұрын
wait, what year is this?
@ahmadjmohsin
@ahmadjmohsin 7 жыл бұрын
Tychoxi the scream is so terrifying
@NoOne-ky1er
@NoOne-ky1er 6 жыл бұрын
18
@wfd87
@wfd87 6 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@gottalight9379
@gottalight9379 5 жыл бұрын
2010
@alainojeda9100
@alainojeda9100 4 жыл бұрын
2020... now i understand why she screamed
@AstrOlenna
@AstrOlenna 7 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the original. I was way too young to be watching something like that, but I absolutely loved it.
@Kershmey
@Kershmey 6 жыл бұрын
What got me started on Lynch was seeing 'Fire Walk With Me' on tv late at night when I was like, 10. Blew my mind.
@gillethsandico
@gillethsandico 5 жыл бұрын
Omg same. But it was delicious!
@emilwoerner4905
@emilwoerner4905 7 жыл бұрын
Keep this Lynch stuff coming!
@brianchidester3334
@brianchidester3334 7 жыл бұрын
I also think "The Return" expanded the cosmos, or mythology, of the "Twin Peaks" world, often taking leave of it to show what lies beneath it, or informs it. The vision is ultimately a bleak one, sort of based in the old Greek notion of fate, which Aristotle later called "eidos." The idea being that things contain a certain internal form, call it information, which cannot be altered through personal will, but which eventually unfold in their natural, unalterable course. I saw the ritualistic aspect of "The Return," with things like the golden ball, to be Cooper's attempt to roll back Laura's murder through occultic means, which he never fully accomplishes. Nothing can actually stop that murder because there is a certain unalterable fate to the town of Twin Peaks, which is only understood by taking leave of it, then returning.
@44excalibur
@44excalibur 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with Twin Peaks is that many fans felt that the original series never realized its potential due to creative interference from ABC, and really wanted something that would offer a resolution to such a beloved show that had appeared to end so ignominiously in 1991. Also, the Twin Peaks revival seemed more like an excuse for David Lynch to explore what his Mulholland Drive concept could've become if it had been picked up as a television series instead of being made into a movie, rather than an actual continuation of the Twin Peaks storyline.
@mfhava
@mfhava 5 жыл бұрын
The Return just killed Twin Peaks for me. When I heard that they are going to continue the series after 25 years I was hyped - finally some closure I thought. But what did we get? A season that is, as some fans put it, "pure Lynch". I guess that is fine for those who wanted a series called "Twin Peaks: The Return" to be nothing but pure Lynch, but those who wanted a series called "Twin Peaks: The Return" to be anything like the original series were sorely disappointed. Before watching the new series I actually re-watched all of the original series to get in the right mood for Twin Peaks - what a shame that there was zero payoff for that effort...
@rae-everything
@rae-everything 2 жыл бұрын
The first few seasons are also "pure Lynch".
@squall6789
@squall6789 7 жыл бұрын
While some of the nostalgia was done well, I still remember watching many bits that felt like nothing much more than fan service. I gave Lynch the benefit of the doubt but many of these appearances went no where and for only there for nostalgia. I found it kinda frustrating given how slow the Dougie stuff was moving along. Felt like precious show minutes were being wasted on unrelated info.
@element1111
@element1111 7 жыл бұрын
I swear you can cut out like 70% of the this season and you won't actually lose out on anything important
@nikitas1841
@nikitas1841 7 жыл бұрын
That's what I felt too. Everything seems so disconnected and unimportant. I watched all of it trying to make sense of things and relate to the characters. Didn't work. It's just a load of bullshit. The fans will say that I should go watch something more simplistic because new TP is too complicated for plebs like me, but I really can't understand anything from what they are saying apart from the fact that they are mostly a bunch of pretentious fucks who really like to lick David Lynch's ass.
@CrunchyWaluigi
@CrunchyWaluigi 6 жыл бұрын
Nikita Paklin Agreed. So much of this season was unimportant is unnecessarily disconnected.
@Kershmey
@Kershmey 6 жыл бұрын
Expecting a traditionally structured narrative from Lynch at this point in his career suggests you've likely missed his later films, which- while exceedingly strange and by no means action packed- are exceptional and worth a close look. It's unquestionable that the third season of Twin Peaks lacks mainstream appeal, and that's no accident. It's quite obvious in many scenes that Lynch is intentionally testing your patience, for the semi-sadistic pleasure of doing so I'd wager, and as a sort of filter too I'd bet. There's a few things you need to take into account here: 1. Lynch is an old man in his Twilight. 2. This project is exceedingly personal; the inspiration of his youth that was stolen by producers reclaimed. 3. He demanded, and thus was given complete creative freedom. Those factors combine into a perfect storm of 'No F*cks Given.' He didn't make season 3 for you, or me, or money, or fame- he made it for him, and Mark Frost, and the cast/his friends, and I think in particular Catherine Coulson, his dear friend who always wanted to return to the character, but they all knew didn't have long to live. He doesn't give a damn about entertaining everybody, or most people, or anybody really; you like it and can appreciate it or you don't and you can't, in which case here's a three minute scene of a guy sweeping a floor in which to power on your cellphone and stream a marvel movie instead. That, I feel, was Lynch's attitude in making Season 3. Yes its cavalier, yes it's pretentious, but it's also more than earned, and really quite brilliant in its own right.
@squall6789
@squall6789 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I should definitely look at it through the prism of Lynch including old cast members for friendship's sake rather than the fans. It feels better than him doing it appease fans, but some of those moments with the original cast still feel the most out of place and gratuitous, even more than a random person sweeping for a few minutes. Not all of them were bad, as long as they assisted the tone, pace or story it seemed fine, but when the scenes service none of those I'm pulled out of the story and start wondering who/what those scenes are servicing. And I love how having a negative reaction to a minuscule part of the whole series is enough to get a "go watch a marvel film" reaction. I'm not trying to diminish the argument, I've probably used it for less, it's just funny how we throw that around the second anything is criticised.
@lynxminx4
@lynxminx4 6 жыл бұрын
I was afraid to start the series out of fear that the nostalgia would be painful, so I was pleasantly surprised on that count....but I definitely missed narrative formality. The new series, in trying to make the story bigger, actually made it smaller....by turning Laura Palmer into a magical girl, for one thing. And GOD DAMN IT I was ready to smash my laptop by the time Lynch was done with Chauncey Avant-Gardiner....
@cra0cristal
@cra0cristal 7 жыл бұрын
The Return's episode 8 was stunning.
@odinson99m
@odinson99m 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of that is very on point, and while I agree with most of it, THE #1 reason why this return, or "revival", is so important to the fans, me being one of them, is, without a doubt closure. The original series ending on so many cliffhangers, not the least of which was the fate of Cooper, that to finally get a window back into that world gave hope there would FINALLY be closure. And while some questions were answered, many more were posed, and THERE in lies the genius of David Lynch and Mark Frost. A++
@מטגורג
@מטגורג 6 жыл бұрын
The whole Return was wonderful and strange, and sad, just like the first time
@teaguehansberry3135
@teaguehansberry3135 6 жыл бұрын
Like the origonal show's ending this third season of Twin Peaks ended with a major WTF ending with nothing really resolved! Just David Lynch's unfailing artistic ablity to drag the veiwer on with a "nostalgic carrot" dangling over our heads, and when the scene drags on too long and we turn away David smacks us with the carrot!
@thehindumuse
@thehindumuse 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and thanks to the comments. I'm never watching The Return now.
@ColeFang23x
@ColeFang23x 5 жыл бұрын
Don't like using your brain? Try watching something with a laugh track, it tells you when to open the mouth and make air come out. Seems like something you might need.
@hophmanbg
@hophmanbg 4 жыл бұрын
Thats cool go watch Bollywood and stay there!
@thehindumuse
@thehindumuse 4 жыл бұрын
Some really salty people out here 🤷🏻‍♂️ I know you want to put others through same misery but I'm hardly inclined to ruin my Twin Peaks experience
@hophmanbg
@hophmanbg 4 жыл бұрын
@@thehindumuse yes you are so clever and sugary go watch another review of someone who has ruined their experience
@thehindumuse
@thehindumuse 4 жыл бұрын
@@hophmanbg Fix that fragile ego or a TV show would be the least of your concerns
@matthewhardwick8208
@matthewhardwick8208 6 жыл бұрын
I feared that a modernised Twin Peaks wouldn't be as good ... but how wrong was I :)
@jernie9384
@jernie9384 6 жыл бұрын
People don't understand the the Complaints, or at least I feel misunderstood (art is subjective). Me and many others wished for something that is new but that is also honoring the Past. I didn't wished for pure Nostalgiaporn, all I wished for was something that has enough Similarities with the original Show to work as a continually Piece of Art, I don't see that here (Art is subjective) Isn't it normal to wish for something fulfilling ? And again I don't mean Nostalgiaporn. Know what ? If you take away hours of,literally, uninportant Dialogues by uninportant Characters, Floor sweeping, "fuck you, Albert", french women, long lynchian staring, insurance fraud, unimportant Violence and overall non developing Characters and you have a fine Revival/Return/S3 or what the hell ever. There were so many fine Scenes, so much that fitted in my very own view of the Story, just not enough. I know what some of you will say then. Take that characteristics away and it's not enough Lynch, it's not pure enough. First of all, I don't think the return was pure at all, rather the Try to be wierd for the sake of Wierdness or a huge amount of wasted time only to play with Expectations. I'd also add that Lynch isn't Twin Peaks. He and Frost weren't the only one to work on the original Show, yet everybody seems to think that everything the Revival has to be, is pure "David Lynch Heroin" You can't return to the Past, still you can start where you stopped. There is nothing wrong with the Sheme of Beggining and End, there is nothing wrong with Tradition as long as it is combined with Freshness. Heck, if I only had mor goddamn Badalamenti in it, I probably wouldn't writing this at all because I like stuff that I'm used to as long as it doesn't stop varying. Again, I only speak about my own Expectations which I hoped to be full filled. I guess it's normal to feel disappointed but that's my Problem because it's also completely normal that Things don't end up as you wished. (Sorry for my bad English)
@alysiamerdavid-wasser9165
@alysiamerdavid-wasser9165 5 жыл бұрын
Galaxy Agreed. (Although the show CREATORS were Frost & Lynch. Lynch just didn't direct but 6 eps out of 30.) So, yeah, this was pure Lynch. i don't have Showtime, & was unable to watch it. i think you hit the nail on the head, though. i couldn't have tolerated "Dougie Cooper". And when i see all of the reviews, i NOW get why they were only the last few eps. That's why fans returned: to "see DALE Cooper in 25 years". 😘
@samwoodson9603
@samwoodson9603 5 жыл бұрын
I think that's a fine way of looking at it. From my perspective though, as not only a Twin Peaks fans, but a fan of David Lynch in general, I found the series to be very fulfilling. It was basically an 18 hour David Lynch film and, to me, is possibly my favorite thing he's ever directed.
@seppukusushi2848
@seppukusushi2848 2 ай бұрын
All these people who keep mocking nostalgia still wanted a new season of a show called Twin Peaks. They're trying to have their🍩 and eat it too.
@jimdown9061
@jimdown9061 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t go home again. The return was trying to remind us that Twin Peaks is dead.
@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures
@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures 4 жыл бұрын
I love thinking about that as a pitch meeting from Lynch. "So, Mr Lynch, we're resurrecting old shows for nostalgia-junkies and Twin Peaks was hot. What you got?" "I got that TWIN PEAKS IS DEAD. HERE'S A NEWS BULLETIN SUNSHINE, IT AIN'T COMING BACK. GET WITH THE PRO-GRAM, SONNY, GET REAL." "Ha ha. I love it. Let's go with that."
@AMGK
@AMGK 4 жыл бұрын
This is mind-blowing 🤯 the final just gets a totally new meaning 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 thank for this
@hallofmirrorsnetwork
@hallofmirrorsnetwork 6 жыл бұрын
Twin Peaks the original was groundbreaking.Twin Peaks The Return is a masterpiece
@SteveBueche1027
@SteveBueche1027 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t wrap my head around this one and fought to continue watching. It the end I was at a complete loss as to what I watched.
@morph628
@morph628 6 жыл бұрын
This assessment is right on. What is it about audiences and readers that demand a rehash when, by our very natures, material cannot be experienced the same way? Television and film that panders does so little. Are we so rebotic as consumers that we want to control the text the way the writer and director do and only experience what we expect?
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 5 жыл бұрын
morph628, continuing a story and further exploring a world that millions of fans loved, isn’t “pandering”. It’s amazing how people will justify this turd.
@CoopDVille-rx3hp
@CoopDVille-rx3hp 4 жыл бұрын
Bobby Briggs seeing Laura's picture and getting all misty about it read to me like kind of a parody of the show's first couple of episodes. Laura's murder kicks off the series, so it takes a few episodes for everyone to stop crying.
@cejannuzi
@cejannuzi 11 ай бұрын
Lynch says Dune was his biggest mistake. But I have to think the finish to season 1 of Twin Peaks and much of season 2 was even more colossal. I think he wanted to make all that right with 2-3 Twin Peaks films. But because Fire Walk With Me flopped so badly, he couldn't. But by embracing digital and the new media, he worked hard to make season 3 a triumph. I think it was in the sense that he got a long miniseries with a large budget. I don't think it worked as anything but an extravagant visual shaggy dog story though.
@PatrickHogan
@PatrickHogan 7 жыл бұрын
Can I just say, the Twin Peaks parody episode of Psych is one of the greatest things ever?
@NicheCaesar
@NicheCaesar 7 жыл бұрын
Patrick Hogan definitely. Psych is insanely underrated and the Twin Peaks episode is probably my favorite of the bunch. The best part for me is when Ray Wise’s character shows up and his hair has apparently turned white since the last time we saw him. I wish that show was still on Netflix.
@PatrickHogan
@PatrickHogan 7 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Caesar Agreed. One of the funniest shows I’ve ever seen.
@opwave79
@opwave79 7 жыл бұрын
Expectations are a dangerous thing. Bigger expectations = bigger letdown. It's all self-imposed.
@nikczemna_symulakra
@nikczemna_symulakra 5 жыл бұрын
Great job!👍 Glad i've seen this one after forcing myself to FINALLY revisit Twin Peaks 3. Just didn't want to ruin all the delightsome memories previous seasons had given me. However.. Now i have some new, freshly squeezed memories to tear down and i'm glad to have it.
@amdhd6990
@amdhd6990 7 жыл бұрын
the return was so gooood
@eminkerim7859
@eminkerim7859 6 жыл бұрын
Samuel Fabiny do you think that I can watch the return without watching the original?
@brentblayoneblayone3948
@brentblayoneblayone3948 6 жыл бұрын
The Return is insanely self indulgent, and for that I can understand why many will never get through it. However, what came along with that indulgence was the boldest and most haunting television I've ever experienced. Yes there are countless scenes that seem to have no relevance to the plot (at least literally), yet there are also countless scenes that are burned into my memory after only one complete viewing. Episode 8 (The Bob Origin/Judy Episode) was one of the most incredible audio/visual experiences I've ever had with film/gaming/television etc.. I watched that episode on a 50 inch 4k display with studio monitor speakers and was blown the fuck away. I also loved some of the roadhouse performances, and even some of the visual humour with Dougie (while admittedly grating in how long it went on) was hilarious. The Return also offered brief but incredibly powerful moments of nostalgia and grounding just when you feared the show had drifted off too far into Lynch's horrific nightmare world (it also used these moments to regain the audience's trust right before pulling the rug out from under us in the last 2 episodes). Where this season really shined most for me though was in the moments of horror and in the meta re contextualizing the entire universe Twin Peaks created. Episode 18 was originally painfully unsatisfying and frustrating. But after another viewing it became my favourite episode of the entire show. Cooper (and the audience) were overwhelmed by their desire to find closure and resolution for Laura's murder, creating an unrecognizable and disturbing doppleganger of a show. Even after altering the past and saving Laura Palmer, Cooper could never escape or stop the dark energy gave that his existence purpose in the first place. Seeing the cold, empty and bleak world of Episode 18 where Cooper is now a more violent far less charming cop and Laura seems to be an accomplice to murder, with neither knowing who they are, we long desperately for the fantastical world of the first 2 seasons. The only common ground that these two worlds ultimately find is in Laura's agonizing scream. What this means in terms of plot is far less significant than what it means for viewers, by demanding resolution for Laura Palmer's murder, we murdered Twin Peaks, and created the dark, bizarre dream world that is ultimately The Return as a whole. At least that is my interpretation. Regardless of what it all meant, it was a completely unique experience and I doubt I'll ever see anything quite like it in the television format again. One thing I'd like to know more about is how the creative process worked between Lynch and Frost in The Return. Between Season 2's finale, Fire Walk With Me, and The Return as a whole, it really felt like Lynch violently took back the show creatively, I'd love to see how that collaboration panned out in such a singular artistic vision.
@leopark3563
@leopark3563 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so fucking over the obsession with nostalgia these days. TP season 3 and Blade Runner 2049 were the only ones that were actually be able to do revivals right.
@seppukusushi2848
@seppukusushi2848 2 ай бұрын
It seems only the anti-nostalgia people are the ones who are obsessed with nostalgia. If they were truly anti-nostalgia, would they really need a new season of a show called "Twin Peaks"? They're trying to have their 🍩 and eat it too.
@giorgosgeorgopoulos7666
@giorgosgeorgopoulos7666 5 жыл бұрын
one word can describe this series... unique!!! is there any explanation about laura's scream and what that woman had whispered to cooper??
@blinisse3216
@blinisse3216 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people seem angry about TP: The Return cause of all the "plot holes" and useless stories which went no where. However, you incense the first two seasons whereas it had a lot of useless and shitty stories. I'm talking about the Horne's Secession War, James trip with a woman, Shelly and Bobby having fun with Leo... After episode 10, you can clearly jump the next 10 episodes. I know Lynch went away at that time but still, not a lot of episodes were that good. It was twin peaks's world wich was awesome. So in the end, season 3 wasn't as bad as season 2 and not a lot of narrative arcs were pointless, some were very funny with a lot of excentric characters. The universe of Twin Peaks got expanded, maybe that's not what everyone wanted (clearly). Plus, there was only 2 or 3 things "hard" to understand and I need to remind that not EVERYTHING has to make sense in the larger story, in our world everything doesn't make sense either. Just let go and stop always wondering about everything and their place in the show, some things do not have to be explained but juste accepted.
@TehBurek
@TehBurek 7 жыл бұрын
And I was just saying about a week ago how I came to this channel because of your What's so great about Twin Peaks? video... did you make this one for me? ^_^ I'm a quite a die-hard TP fan and I agree with everything you said, season 3 was quite a lot of things... unexpected, bewildering, frustrating and endlessly fascinating. I did often feel like "I need more normal Cooper" and old style, but I know that just wouldn't be what it used to be. It sure was challenging, but those glorious moments then felt earned. Great analysis, yet again. Also, if anyone's interested, about two months ago I got an amazing opportunity to speak to Mr. Lynch himself on a video call and ask him a (not-so-amazing) question about Twin Peaks, the video is on my channel, it should be the last visible one (v=abfXvXFXvD8 and enable CC).
@aaronhussey4213
@aaronhussey4213 7 жыл бұрын
That was great. I saw some other footage of this on here somewhere as well, talking about Audrey, thoughts on doing a Season 4. Good stuff!
@TehBurek
@TehBurek 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I saw it on "Welcome to Twin Peaks" and some other places, made me giggle - "look ma', I was there!" And being there and talking to him was surreal, which is quite fitting, I guess. He didn't give any straight answers about Audrey, but he seemed unexpectedly open to making a fourth season. Someone asked him about it and he said something like "if we did it, it would take a couple of years" or something to that effect, but the way he said it sounded like he was seriously considering it or was at least open to the idea, which was pleasently surprising.
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 7 жыл бұрын
I also feel like the the old Twin Peaks was only about 40% of what he was allowed to do back then. He had to compromise with the studio back then to make it able to work for network tv and have a more mass appeal. Problem is that pure 100% Lynch is very niche.
@TehBurek
@TehBurek 7 жыл бұрын
George Daugherty Exactly. I thought to myself "I can't believe they're letting him air this on TV" many times throughout The Return. This was pretty much 100% unfiltered Lynch, and that can get tough to handle, even for established fans.
@thetake
@thetake 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! We're glad the timing was good :)
@OmegaReviews
@OmegaReviews 7 жыл бұрын
Twin Peaks The Retrun is a gift that keeps on giving and this video is testament to that. There are so many ways one can deconstruct and discern meaning for themselves.
@isakdahl7054
@isakdahl7054 4 жыл бұрын
I just watched the finale for the first time yesterday. It was the first time something fictional has truly ever scared me. I still haven’t shaken of the deeply disturbing feeling. I actually cried afterwards.
@stevenspielberg9198
@stevenspielberg9198 7 жыл бұрын
Great look at the show, feel the exact same way. This channel is top tier!
@amdhd6990
@amdhd6990 7 жыл бұрын
just something i've been wondering about. when cooper is back in 89 and laura sees him in the forest, then she screams. why did she scream in the original scene? that scene is from fire walk with me right?
@NicheCaesar
@NicheCaesar 7 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, Laura sees Bob in the bushes, prompting her scream.
@amdhd6990
@amdhd6990 7 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Caesar I see. But it plays nicely with Cooper too. Perfect actually
@NicheCaesar
@NicheCaesar 7 жыл бұрын
Samuel Fabiny definitely! It’s almost eerie.
@CrunchyWaluigi
@CrunchyWaluigi 6 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Caesar Actually, we don’t see what she see’s at all in the original scene, she just kind of screams. James looks back but we don’t actually get a shot of the forest to see what’s there. I think it’s was more of an overwhelming emotional build up and explosion just at that moment. (Considering everything she has been through up until that point in the movie) Or she see’s her fate inside her head at that moment and realizes how horrifying it will be. But it also did play nicely with Cooper being there.
@Kershmey
@Kershmey 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed, in the original scene she simply looks off into the distance, sees something off camera, and shrieks. Having it be Cooper cowering in the woods rocked my effing world.
@ImpracticalDefects
@ImpracticalDefects 6 жыл бұрын
What disappointed me most were the visual effects. I am not sure it it was deliberate or if they were running out of funds. They could've done better.
@seppukusushi2848
@seppukusushi2848 2 ай бұрын
Lynch has declined aesthetically since he went digital.
@elektrar9620
@elektrar9620 6 жыл бұрын
This is purely a micro viewpoint, but as a rock solid fan of Twin Peaks and David Lynch I have to disagree with almost everything that was said here. S3 of TP is a master piece and far beyond my expectations in a positive way, full of symbolism, scenes that make tension evolving to emotional, rational and conceptual dilemmas. This is not a revival, this is brilliance - when it was mentioned in the first seasons that they were going to meet in 25years and David Lynch took it literally. This is not a regular TV show, this is more than that, it is the polarity, the good, the bad, the white, the black, the joy, the sorrow, the light, the dark, the visible, the hidden, the learnt, the the forgotten, the short, the long, it is everything!
@ZomboyProductionz
@ZomboyProductionz 6 жыл бұрын
David Lynch is brilliant.
@MrJohnnyWalker2001
@MrJohnnyWalker2001 7 жыл бұрын
The goose was the mystery of Laura Palmer, the golden eggs were how strongly it resonated with audiences. Lynch, like any artist who isn’t completely self-indulgent, cares about success.
@wolfpac1970
@wolfpac1970 7 жыл бұрын
"The murder of Laura Palmer was never supposed to be solved." - David Lynch. And that's were the original series went wrong, when CBS insisted that Lauras murder be revealed in order to satisfy the demands of the "fans" we were left with a lackluster show with nowhere else to go.
@Airola
@Airola 7 жыл бұрын
But the ratings were constantly dropping. By the end of season 1 the series had lost over half of its initial viewers and while it rose a bit at the beginning of season 2, the viewer numbers started to drop again. It's obvious the golden eggs weren't truly that golden. The golden goose only laid regular eggs. That's why the Laura Palmer storyline was the one people truly cared for. People loved the golden goose. Lynch and Frost should've taken care of the golden goose instead of focusing on the supposedly golden eggs. The writers were so obsessive about those "golden eggs" that after Leland died they tried to find the gold in those eggs so much that they forgot that they should now explore the town and its citizens in the context of a father murdering and raping his own daughter who the citizens loved. But no, they just thought about the eggs instead of exploring the actual goose and so they shrugged it off with a line or two and then forgot it. It wasn't the murder that laid any eggs. It was Laura Palmer herself. And she was dead before the series even started so I don't get why solving the murder would even kill the goose. In reality solving the murder was the thing that ended up bringing up the things that made the ending of season 2 happen. And without that ending I think Twin Peaks wouldn't be as remembered as it is today. Lynch may think what he wants but him being forced to "wrap up" the murder was actually the best thing that ever happened to Twin Peaks.
@revdckmz
@revdckmz 7 жыл бұрын
completly wrong. It should never be "solved". That was gold.
@landonle3308
@landonle3308 6 жыл бұрын
I always wondered had they not solve the murder how the hell could they try to stretch the story over 22 episodes seasons it just seemed to much
@Kershmey
@Kershmey 6 жыл бұрын
After Leland's capture and confession you can pretty safely skip to the last episode.
@biglittlefilms4382
@biglittlefilms4382 6 жыл бұрын
The Original Twin Peaks was shown on ABC, not CBS, unless CBS produced it and sold it to ABC, which happens a lot in TV
@steveayres49
@steveayres49 2 жыл бұрын
this video needs to give Mark Frost some credit
@eduardo_corrochio
@eduardo_corrochio 3 жыл бұрын
Good insights. Had Lynch given viewers something very like what he already had made, we would've been disappointed; and we would've been disappointed if he'd done something completely different. Instead, he walked the fine line between familiar and completely unheard of stuff, and that was the right thing to do. As with most things Lynchian, I enjoy the ride and the view and the sounds; but I can't get bogged down analyzing everything or seeking meanings ... life's too brief! LOL
@ERMediaOfficial
@ERMediaOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best analysis videos about the show. Good job, well done :)
@jr-1e0452
@jr-1e0452 4 жыл бұрын
3 years of sorrow. I can go now. Thank you.
@robotdeathderby
@robotdeathderby 4 жыл бұрын
that final scream after hearing mrs palmer call for laura made up for all the long drawn out dougie scenes.
@KJmusic97
@KJmusic97 6 жыл бұрын
Lynch simply surpassed himself with the exhilarating avant guard imagery and outstanding tecnical efforts. I think this season in many moments would fit comfortably in an art gallery as video art. It is, I think, the purest form of art in film we could possibly witness today.
@Assimandeli
@Assimandeli 5 жыл бұрын
" outstanding tecnical efforts" now that's something I highly disagree with. A lot of the show didn't even look like it was professionally made.
@tobiseitz
@tobiseitz 6 жыл бұрын
This video was one of the most plausible and comprehensible analyses of the return that I’ve seen - thanks!
@nateblack8669
@nateblack8669 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished Twin Peaks: The Return and it's an absolute masterpiece ❤ There's a reason why the one and only tattoo on my body is the Twin Peaks hyroglyph. Edit: And my god, I loved the Mitchum Bros ❤❤❤
@DasPuppy
@DasPuppy 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@12ealDealOfficial
@12ealDealOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
One thing I like about the the return is that there's no common consensus regarding it's quality.
@blacklisted351
@blacklisted351 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe not among fans, but I'd say there is among the critics Almost every episode has 100% on rotten tomatoes
@12ealDealOfficial
@12ealDealOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
@@blacklisted351 Critics fawn over the ostensibly postmodern for culture reasons, though I don't think Lynch was making that kind of statement at all.
@Serai3
@Serai3 Жыл бұрын
It was the very limitations of television that made Twin Peaks so enjoyable for me. Lynch literally _could not_ go off on his bizarrest tangents, where he simply didn't give a f*** if anyone understood a single thing he said. It was what made the show watchable - limits almost always _improve_ art, because they force the artist to find things he otherwise wouldn't have bothered with. Take that away and you get Lynch at his least accommodating, most internalized, and least interested in creating a cohesive narrative. Thank the gods I was able to fast forward through to find anything intelligible. (I think I found about 20 minutes in all from the multiples episodes I skimmed through, until I finally gave up in frustration and boredom.) There's a limit to how much of my life I'm willing to give up on the off chance that Dave might decide to say something useful.
@URBONED
@URBONED 6 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that understands how to analyze this show. So many people are trying so hard to find literal explanations for everything and I think you're just digging yourself a hole by doing that. This show is about metaphor, theme, subtext and emotion which everyone will decipher differently.
@petersonj198
@petersonj198 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent look back at 'The Return' and adds perspective
@Fintanflaherty
@Fintanflaherty 7 жыл бұрын
No payoff at all. 25 years and 16 episodes for 1 episode of the ol Coop.
@syahnazjasmine1124
@syahnazjasmine1124 7 жыл бұрын
i've just been watching the godfather part 1 and 2, i think vito and michael needs a special breakdown on how they run their intelligence with michael being more vicious than his predecessor... its a worth video and many people will like it ! :)
@EnGeeZee
@EnGeeZee 5 жыл бұрын
Massive respect for the Psych reference.
@mattieeilers
@mattieeilers 7 жыл бұрын
What an excellent analysis. I’m so glad they didn’t just give us fan service. I became even more obsessed with the show this new season.
@nuthinmuffins5073
@nuthinmuffins5073 6 жыл бұрын
As a fan of Twin Peaks, who suffered through a childhood bombarded by Full House: thank you for the juxtaposed clips.
@joshuafletcher4501
@joshuafletcher4501 4 жыл бұрын
Wow what a great video, well done!
@aoki556
@aoki556 6 жыл бұрын
watching this has showed me how much the Life is Strange developers realllyyyy loved twin peaks
@Assimandeli
@Assimandeli 5 жыл бұрын
So did the people behind Alan Wake, Dark Seed II and Deadly Premonition. The latter one being actually better than Twin Peaks, IMO. I would also argue that the Harvester is somewhat "lynchian" as some people put it.
@Ruzlix
@Ruzlix 5 жыл бұрын
Alan Wake is a love letter to Twin Peaks. 😍
@dawngrrrl
@dawngrrrl 7 жыл бұрын
I just started the video and I'm already hype af 🙌🌲🌲🍒☕💀
@КРИСТАБЭЛЛ
@КРИСТАБЭЛЛ 3 жыл бұрын
Шедевр ушедшей эпохи глубина резкости чувств и эмоций и любви
@scottianson5133
@scottianson5133 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your excellent upload.
@eraserheadSH
@eraserheadSH 5 жыл бұрын
season 3 is artistic perfection. any other opinion is wrong and should be disregarded.
@penbucket
@penbucket 6 жыл бұрын
fantastic essay.
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