Boomer Metal Vs Zoomer Metal

So which is best, old school metal or something more modern?
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#Boomer #Zoomer #Metal

[@agufish]

"Pete Metal" is the best one 😘

[@nathanmclauchlan5148]

Gotta love “Pete Metal “ 😉

[@chaoschaoforever]

"Pete Metal" is indeed the best.

[@Dezeta79]

so, in my country will be "Bl0wj*b Metal" :-/

[@aukiriusdevil8465]

@@Dezeta79 Are you from Argentina?

[@Dezeta79]

@@aukiriusdevil8465 yes i am my guy

[@tim-tim-timmy6571]

"every 7 string guitar riffs sound the same" *takes out the 8 string*

[@rxmshxh4639]

I like new bands who take inspiration from the old bands' and give it their own modern touch :)

[@peteplaysmusic]

Me too, I love Sylosis for example :)

[@rxmshxh4639]

@@peteplaysmusic Yess they show how to smack in e standard!!

[@xXHardcoreSeppXx]

@@rxmshxh4639 newest album is d standard tho

[@rxmshxh4639]

@@xXHardcoreSeppXx Yaa but they've smacked in e standard not too long ago

[@Powermad-bu4em]

@@peteplaysmusic Sylosis is one of the best bands to come around in the last 30 years. Such good stuff. Check out Alustrium. They are friggin amazing and definitely pull from the old school.

[@uwvadertje]

def gona have to rewatch this one a handful of times, thank you Pete !! this video hyped me up haha

[@killercharlie08]

For me, the thing with the ultra low tunings of modern metal is that at some point there is no definition or dynamics, is just a very low noise. Again, for me it’s the most boring thing in the world. There are some positives though, eg. if I want to rest in a mountain of heaviness, sonically speaking, I gravitate to most modern metal sounds.

[@graniteoverworld8955]

I personally find i bottom out around B Standard. The only thing I like lower is probably the Doom 2016 soundtrack, but that's because in a lot of instances, Mick Gordon remembered to write actual songs.

[@TheManagerDuck]

Agreed. I've recently bought an 8-string from a friend for run. The 8th string is basically a gimmic. It is really low, but has zero dynamics, sound is unreadable, sloppy, dull. On 7th string guitar instantly comes alive, 8th is a mess. I think it is really hard to nail the tone for such low tunings. But if you manage, you have a chance to hit hard as Doom 2016 did.

[@EYOUTz1993]

@@TheManagerDuck yeah, if you watch someone like Dean Lamb from Archspire play their songs, he's using the top 7 a lot more with the 8th string used in certain parts for the lows. I don't think 8 strings usually work too well from the low end up with a 6 or 7 string approach.

[@beastlybeast2716]

@@TheManagerDuck I think the magic rule with the eight string is to just use your lower notes sparingly. But we all know how metal and subtlety go together… “Hmmm how should this go? I’m just gonna bang the fuck out of the bottom string.” I’m guilty of it too

[@Kruegernator123]

I have that same sentiment towards that. 7+ string guitars also sacrifice clarity for playing lower, and to me the tone ends up sounding really muddy.

[@ToxicSentinelTTV]

When I write i use a lot of string skipping, low string bends, exceedingly low drop tunings, galloping and palm muting and to me it sounds good to me, just like what I listened to as a kid

[@NelsonBlakeII]

Pete I have that same Chapman but I just threw some Bareknuckle Juggernauts in it and now it's my favorite guitar of all time.

[@thetobi583]

Myself, I'm stuck in a late 90's/early 00's state of metal. I can see where the earlier gens say the newer gens all sound the same (to me, most of them do), but new metal can come out with absolute bangers.

[@RandomActsofGibberish]

Having grown up in the '80s, I am definitely a fan of the age's riffage. I personally feel the best music came from the early '70's thru to early '90s, in terms of rock and metal. Some of the newer stuff is ok, but the most played on my playlist is '80s.

[@MetalRenard]

On fire as always. Loved the vid where you re-imagined Metallica, loved this one too.

[@kenanatkinson7335]

When the second Zoomer riff hit, I remembered what side I'm on 😌 so groovy. Great video!

[@TheWarriorXander]

I'm in the same camp as Pete, I like lots of stuff, old school and new. Thrash, Power, Death, Black, Prog, Tech-Death, and even some -core genres. There's good and bad in all of it.

[@ravensflight2965]

the second "boomer" riff reminds me of the early Metallica/Megadeth riffs; the "Kill em all" era. And those harmonics are tasty af.

[@PureJadeKid]

The winner is Pete. You rock and all of these riffs got me headbanging.

[@peteplaysmusic]

Thanks! :)

[@davedixon2167]

I didn't hate any of the riffs, though I am a boomer-metal guy at heart. First boomer riff was just perfect quintessential 80s metal, second boomer riff was a great Randy Rhoads joint, and the third was very Pantera to me. The first 2 Zoomer riffs did sound similar to me, with the bounces up to the way higher notes at those minor/dim sounding intervals and all, while the last one was a bit too... i dunno, "sceney"? Still, great playing and much admiration from over here on the bass side. Cheers.

[@MetalGuitarGuy]

I like some modern bands and I like some old bands. For me its usually the vocals that are the make or break. There are a lot of terrible modern vocalists. But there were also a lot of terrible singers back in the day too. I love guitar and Metal and I love Pete's Channel. I Don't think you need to make modern versions of old Music. Instead, just make your own music that makes you happy.

[@Skeware]

I wouldn't choose a side because I am a avid fan of Metal and I can enjoy almost every sub-genre, BUT in this case, based on what I've listened in this video I'd feel more inclined to listen to the "Boomer label", BTW 3:29 those notes were soundalicious.

[@TheoryandRobG]

The first 'Boomer' riff sounded similar to what Sylosis would play!

[@andrewpappas9311]

Honestly, for me I'm more classic metal since I love bands like Metallica, Iron Maiden, Sabbath and Megadeth (just to name a few that also heavily inspired me in terms of guitar playing) but I also love some modern bands like Avenged Sevenfold, Ghost and Trivium

[@theunpretentiousvegan8593]

Once again we all forget Gen X exists.

[@andrewcurry4745]

I'd love to see beanie merch! Would help when writing meaty riffs

[@DARRKNESS99]

I think your riffs are just good in general, Pete 👍I dunno, I'm in the camp of goodness being defined by the individual song and not the era it came from. Like, I recently bought an 8 string specifically to play Mick Gordon stuff, but I get as much of a rush off playing slayer riffs as well. As long as people keep putting care into their music, music will continue to be good.

[@SamuTheFrog]

They're all sick. I hate all these wars, it's all badass music.

[@Bruski_Two_Zero]

It all depends on what I'm in the mood for really

[@kodyepidemic]

I’ll always love modern metal because it’s so expandable. You can throw elements of anything into it to give in a unique sound. For me personally, just hearing regular instruments is tired.

[@vulpinehovgaard3460]

Loving both styles the only difference i hear is Boomer metal is the music you play in a bar brawl, Zoomer Metal Is the Music you play in a Ultimate Boss fight in a computer game. both Epic.

[@FelipeGruberTV]

Amazing, just amazing!

[@rolaca11]

generally I like modern better, but in this vid you did old school way better

[@erickfajardo764]

yep I think both are great I love metal old and modern, of course I don´t like every metal band on the world but old and modern music are art and that´s what I like... just the music

[@chadblackmon8586]

Coming from the exact same place as you (I enjoy both Metallica AND Periphery) I’m going to rank the riff winners as I heard a them. 180 bpm - boomer metal 150 bpm - zoomer metal 120 bpm - zoomer metal Again this is all MY opinion. I think for me, the extended range guitars don’t sound as good with the faster riffs simply because the human ear can’t pick up the articulation as well in those lower frequencies. But maybe that’s just me being deaf from listening to metal too loud… curse these xenial ears 😂

[@swervature]

1. BOOMER, BABY! 2. I'm always amazed when your picking hand goes blurry. Damn. 3. Why no 9-string yet? That thing is basically 1 1/2 strings away from being half a sitar!

[@TheLemonKiller]

Boomer: Mostly laid back happy groovy riding a Harley somewhere or working on your car in the garage. Then going down to the bar. Zoomer: Technical acrobatics and chuggs.

[@ericbjork3722]

4:39 accidental red alert

[@equinity]

The first right sounds like Testament and Sylosis had a baby.

[@panic-revv85]

I dig the fox shirt! Where'd you get it?

[@Jaryth14]

So I love old school metal riffage. I do also like modern metal, but those riffs are never the ones that make me want to try to play them. Once you detune past about A or B they just become texture. What I'm curious about is what bassists do in those bands. Do they play on the same octave as the guitarist, or are they playing in borderline subsonic ranges?

[@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS]

1st boomer riff is very SLAYER so I like that 1st, 2nd, 3rd Zoomer Riffs SLAP hard, so I like those 2nd Boomer riff not so much for me, no offense 3rd boomer riff is alright, I imagine like southern metal, Pantera, Down, etc, right?

[@FizzyK-45]

I don't really care which metal is best, *METAL IS METAL!* 🤘

[@bennjibertie9450]

Music is just evolving like everything else. I actually like the proper detuned sound! It's good! Also.... I'm sure that second boomer riff was the intro to Sonic Adventure...

[@justdude45]

I was thinking the same thing! It sounds a lot like Crush 40’s Open Your Heart, which i guess was inspired by a lot 80’s metal.

[@Artur_F]

Eighties metal - you work (play) with your right hand. Modern metal - you play with your left ;-)

[@LRM12o8]

I much preferred the original riffs in the Metallica in 2021 video, but in this video here, I preferred the zoomer version of each example but the last one. To me this goes to show that it's just really hard to reimagine classic riffs in a modern style, as we're all so used to the classic one, that it has to fight really hard to overcome the "this doesn't feel right" - effect. Those folks who took it as proof that modern Metal bands sucks just failed to recognize this, plus nostalgia plays into it as well: Yes there's a lot of overproduced, poppy, samey modern Metal bands without substance, but there's also been loads of cheezy, generic soundalike pretendo bands back in the 80's and 90's (remember Hairmetal?), but we only remember the great bands from back then, so we're tempted to believe (especially if we want to) all bands from yesteryear were great.

[@rigorhead01]

Bro you're picking technique is 💯

[@kruczochudej5627]

For me boomer sounds better due to energy, more melodic, more air and less plastic sound. Unfortunately, I grew up on Boomer metal, so it may only seem that way to me. Similarly, people who don't listen to metal at all they think for example that POP is the only right genre of music because they grew on this. So to be honest this is really hard to say what is really better without nostalgic vibes. Anyway if someone want to check very rare but real combination of oldschool and newschool you can check Killswitch engage - holy diver which is metalcore cover from heavy metal classic with great complex melodic riffs/solos but also breakdowns.

[@BoeserKlon]

Can't choose between Boomer and Zoomer, but I liked the 150 bpm riffs the most

[@TheOriginalEUrban]

Back in my day, we only had 6 or 12 strings on guitars. Now you kids are getting crazy, it's like Pokemon: How many fucking strings/monsters do you need? 150? 250? 1,000?

[@TestaBorges]

modern metal doesn't need to be only 8 strings, just more funky, taps, high scale notes in the midle of the riff...

[@rob0nemusic369]

I prefer moder metal, but both of your riffs are great

[@calebrose4607]

Boomer Metal riff #2 sounds very Van Halen-y

[@Trper-qh1nn]

I like both genres but something in boomer metal has alot more of an abstract feel

[@blaness13]

I thought all the riffs were badass, but I think something is lost with ultra low tunings like with 8 strings, the tonal range of the boomer riffs was really nice and had a lot of energy to them, but I personally think that the ultra low tunings take something away from the zoomer riffs,

[@austinkash]

Do something with 90’s Drop D metal

[@amalgam5107]

I think I’m just a fan of Pete’s riffage.

[@tots8982]

I personally like both

[@rhyyrrfrieg4656]

They both sounded good 👍

[@seeker-g9c]

I love both style

[@YuriLifeLove]

To me instead of judging a song/riff/lick/anything else by the genre/era/maybe in rare occasion by the artist even... It's best to just listen to it individually and see if you like them...

[@twisstedriffs]

Boomer or zoomer can we all just agree Pete is the KZbin riff king!

[@bonnesjguidry]

I'm 40 and I like everything.

[@Kruudelis]

I like the new stuff, but the old school just resonates with my very being. Old school thrash all the way.

[@scoobybenguitars]

Nothing wrong with liking both :)

[@lode233]

I Like both boomer and zoomer style. I don't understand why so many people with closed minds waste their time criticizing modern metal. Internet sould be used for looking for new ideas and inspiration, not for critizise everything.

[@theleagueofrandom8066]

listen, I'm a 14 year old girl and almost all I listen to is Ozzy era Black Sabbath

[@vincebu6441]

Without the boomer there is no zoomer.. Steve vai=7 string guy who made 7 string popular.. Boomer... Checkmate!!!

[@antonioc8862]

Definitively a Boomer. Like that riff at 2:49, though

[@mgrocki]

"this is the internet where everything is a massive fight" lol... so true

[@beastlybeast2716]

It’s gotten pretty ridiculous. What’s wrong with “hey, I kinda dig all of this stuff! Some more than others but I appreciate all of it!” We are all here because we love metal right?

[@ricekrispietreats8973]

No this is completely wrong and he shouldn't of made that joke. It's offensive to me that people would think that the internet fights about anything. We should cancel this guy and you for agreeing with him! (Sarcasm don't take this seriously)

[@henriquemontalvao8492]

Pete why don't you pick a modern band and play it as if it was an 80's band then?

[@peteplaysmusic]

Cool idea! Any band suggestions you’d like to see? :)

[@henriquemontalvao8492]

@@peteplaysmusic well, since you said you like both peryphery and metallica and already did metallica... But I'd love to see what you'd come up for polyphia as a challenge

[@kesti2499]

@@henriquemontalvao8492 lol 80’s Style periphery could actually be really groovy

[@Cleesp]

Born of Osiris, but it's thrash, lets gooo.

[@adriellightvale8140]

Animals As Leaders but it's hard rock.

[@DrBlort]

My personal preference is old school. Having said that, It's only natural that newer metal bands look for and explore different sounds, rythms, chord progressions, and all sort of things. That's ok, that's how art evolves.

[@DrBlort]

@BiRDiEMusic ​ Thanks! I'm listening to your music (Sol) and it's great! I really like it, new school and all 😄🤘

[@MadManMusic]

I think the issue is that most Modern Metal Band Sound Identical. I'm also a 7-Stringer and I use all kinds of Tunings and I often find myself in these Stale Ruts where riffs start to repeat themselves. However the bigger problem is that it seems like with most bands these days there isn't even an attempt at Originality. But this isn't a new concept, it has been like this for years. And its also incredibly difficult to carve out a completely original sound nowadays. Not without fusing it with something extreme. Next Up: Country Djent lol 🤘🏼😜

[@DrBlort]

​@@MadManMusic Yeah, I agree. In the 80s to mid 90s you could recognize a band just by hearing a few seconds of a song, either by the style, sound, or something unconscious. Most of them were/are very distinctive. We could even recognize different albums from the same band that way. Maybe the thing with more modern bands is that the artistic vision goes on other things than just riffs and sound, like maybe lyrics? I don't know enough to find the causes of the monotony in that landscape. Oh, This made me remember that there is a video called "The Death of Melody?" from Inside the Score, that speaks of similar things IIRC. Will have to check it again. Also, we're more familiar with the really good past music, forgot the bad ones, and we still have to wade through the new stuff. Maybe in 10 years we can appreciate the good ones from 2020 and 2021. I also think that we could sit down and listen to a record more times, and familiarity with something makes us appreciate it more. Nowadays with thousands of songs ready to play with a click it's harder to get hooked. I also expect that after Country Djent, what's next is Metal DJazz Techo Pop haha

[@MadManMusic]

@@DrBlort Haha! Its gonna get wild!! 🤘🏼😜

[@DreadNovella]

Boomer is not the eighties. Boomer means the boomer generation which is the fifties. Stop saying shit that doesn't make sense.

[@junior10kdutch]

I dig both. They're different, but tasty nonetheless. People get so precious about their musical tastes. Don't like it? Don't listen to it. Keep doing what you do, Pete!

[@EmileA-gs1kk]

Agreed, I totally mess with Periphery and Meshuggah just as much as i loove the AJFA and MoP metallica albums I was writing this way in the beginning of the video and i didnt even realize that he used metallica and periphery as an example

[@jeffreymartinez5829]

To claim that the 80s (or any decade of music) is superior or inferior to others is pointless. Music changes. It evolves, it incorporates elements of the past, and it creates new sounds. Having preferences is fine, but to claim generational superiority is a fool's argument. Pete, you play awesome music, man, and I love it. Keep doing what you're doing!

[@BigMacAttack83]

Love this. It's so true!

[@DreadNovella]

I just hate how ignorant this guy is calling the eighties boomer. Boomer is the fifties.

[@charizardmaster13]

Sadly theres too many idiots on the internet who make bold claims like that without anything to back it up with

[@smylex99]

At the same time, it can still be said that someone’s band sucks regardless of the era it came from. Believe me, as someone who’s been listening to Metal in almost all of its forms for almost 45 years, there’s a lot more Metal I hate than what I like.

[@dreadswizzard9142]

There was actually a study on pop music that proved that there was a point in about the 60s where it hit an overall peak and has been going downhill since. I believe Tom Scott did a videos on it as well.

[@Alex82pd]

The "boomer" style always sound to me more energetic, something I associate with speed, with energy. The "zoomer" style goes more into the angry zone to me. To some extents, it is like "walk" from Pantera elevated at the power of 2, angry feeling. While normal riffs from the 80s/90s give me energy. Both nice, but for different feelings, my 2 cents there 😉

[@ClikcerProductions]

I have a similar perspective, although I'd probably describe it as boomer = power, zoomer = rage. I'd describe it like that as I find both very energetic, just in very different ways

[@Alex82pd]

@@ClikcerProductions maybe, yes.. I kind of see that too

[@8393Robertrex]

Ones cocaine the others weed

[@singleproppilot]

The old thrash and speed metal musicians were nothing short of athletes. It takes not only skill, but tremendous stamina to play that music. Take a song like “Master of Puppets”, which is a relentless assault of downpicking fury that lasts over eight minutes, including a short melodic break in the middle. Nothing in modern metal comes close as far as pure energy level. Modern metal is generally slower and more focused on groove. Another key difference is the role of melody and harmony. Old metal they played a million miles an hour while SINGING, on time and on key. In modern styles they don’t really sing, the fry vocals they use lack a defined pitch, so no need to write a vocal melody over that guitar riff. Just bark out whatever you want to say. No one can understand you anyway unless they read the lyrics sheet. A few modern metal bands play dual guitars in harmony, but harmony isn’t really cool anymore. What’s in style is dissonance, not to create cycles of tension and release, but just dissonance for the sake of dissonance, all the time. Some of it is so extreme that you can’t even tell what key they’re playing in (Animals as Leaders, I’m looking at you). I don’t see the genius in it. It just sounds like out of tune noodling to me. In favor of creating ever more extreme stuff, what has been lost is taste, in my opinion.

[@ClikcerProductions]

@@singleproppilot Damn dude, all of that just to say you don't understand Animals as Leaders?

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

Depends on the kind of riffs for me. I will always adore thrash riffs, dislike most traditional heavy metal riffs, and whatever that 3rd boomer riff you played would be called is awesome. However, I love the 1st and 2nd type djent riffs, slam riffs, and lower tunings. That's why I love bands like Trivium, Revocation, Amon Amarth, etc, that find a great way to blend old school and modern!

[@dysonmodica9302]

Agreed! That’s why I love trivium as well!

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

@@dysonmodica9302 They'll always be one of my favorites, too!

[@craigjames1082]

Revocation is a top fucking tier band

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

@@craigjames1082 absolutely. Dave Davidson is one of the best guitarists right now, and the band just gets better and better. The Outer Ones is still mindblowing to me, to this day.

[@setra23]

If you don't know them already, check out Sylosis. I reckon they play the sort of music you'd be into.

[@Traski]

Not an easy task to get me to headbang. That second zoomer riff was a banger. I grew up listening to lot of music from late 80's to early 00's, then kinda skipped the following 10 years. But then, mid to late 2010's and now this decade has been a treat. Good songwriting matters. Heaviness is subjective.

[@TheBanana93]

late 2010s was pretty bad haha Metalcore took over.

[@peteplaysmusic]

So which is best, old school metal or something more modern? Thanks for watching! :)

[@dan8402]

Well Pete, an am almost 50. Old and fat but can head bang with the best of them. I don't know if there is a real answer to this. I love neo classical shredding, and thick DGent riffs but for different reasons. I like country music to so don't hate me. 😂😎

[@mihaelzubak7321]

Ended up being Boomer - Zoomer - Boomer for me

[@jkobain]

Thanks for playing. (%

[@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS]

A rich blend! I been hearing some nice things from Shrub Plays doing Between the Buried, Trivium, etc that is like 5 genres I can recognize throughout the songs sometimes!

[@consequenceable]

z00m b00m z00m

[@seangriffey8669]

As someone born in 97, older music has never really spoken to me like more modern stuff. The oldest stuff I listen to regularly is probably meshuggahs destroy erase improve. That said i have a tremendous amount of respect for what came before. I grew up on downtuned riffs and at least some screams in my music and surprise surprise, thats what I still like most. Just like how someone born 20 years before me might prefer standard e and mostly singing in their metal. Everyone needs to relax a bit I think.

[@BlairLSK]

As a 48 year old dude I know what you're saying. Our tastes get established early on in life and have to be almost 'proven wrong' before we take to anything more progressive within that genre, let alone another genre all together. I respect and enjoy a lot of the more modern metal I hear but it isn't the music I attach emotional significance to. That honour belongs to the albums I listened to in the late 80s/early 90s.

[@ayanleman]

I've always felt that, music is weird in that, in a lot of other mediums we might acknowledge and respect the subjective nature of our tastes, but when it comes to music all of a sudden everything has to be hard-fact my-way-or-the-highway objectivity. Hell music has different rules in all sorts of ways, you'll have people watching some twisted and gutwrenching horror movies but go "I don't go for that satanic stuff" the second they hear distortion on a guitar. I wonder what it is about music that just clicks on a different part of our brains

[@xxdr34m5xx_4]

Funny, I'm born I 97 as well and I feel exactly the same

[@WatsonDynamite]

I was born in 98 and I MUCH prefer the older stuff. Music is a language and some types speak more to some people than others. It's perfectly natural.

[@ThatBeTheQuestion]

As someone born in 96, I have I agree.

[@jacobrae18]

I like both of these so much. What I don't understand is why some people say the modern riffs aren't memorable. They're so groovy and catchy.

[@MRSludgedude]

Not in the mainstream.

[@jacobrae18]

@@MRSludgedude I mean if you're talking about what bring me has turned into or something like that, then I understand. But if you mean bands like erra, currents, or oceans ate alaska, then I don't really see what you mean.

[@MRSludgedude]

@@jacobrae18 I love alot of modern music but not the compressed stuff that ripped off the great meshugga. I hate bands like periphery and all that deathcore and djent and most nu metal. But there are thousands of amazing doom and death metal bands and black metal. Metal is on fire right now but from 2005 to like 2019 was horrible. They basically mixed blink 182 with meshugga . I think rock is dead now fully but metal ....it may be the best time in history for extreme metal. I just like natural organic looser blues based metal like down and acid bath, pantera, Melvins, mastadon. I do think ppl had way better vocals in the 90s though in every genre. 2000s everybody got that emo softy wimpy voice. Thank cawd that's almost dead . I think music is changing for the better again with gen Z bands .They seem to be more on the raw grit side then there gen Y counterparts. That's just my opinion I can't speak for anybody else.

[@majortellandrus2552]

Because they don't want to put in any brain work to understand what they're listening to. Old stuff is "better" because old people don't have to actually think about it. We young people are the same way about modern metal; we don't have to work hard at learning how to listen to it right now, but someday when our stuff is "old school" we'll have to work at it too.

[@obi-wannabekennotbi2418]

3:57 this riff is fire! 🔥

[@mouin3mou243]

Is it an original one or a famous riff ?

[@chris_2714]

I'm a boomer. I like both the older and newer metal. However the thrash metal from the 80s is where my best memories were formed so will always be my favourite.

[@MadManMusic]

I'm also somewhere in the middle. I play professionally in a 90's Hardcore Metal Band called Pro-Pain but I also enjoy more Modern Sounds as can be heard all over my own channel. I enjoyed the reimagining of the Metallica Riffs. It was interesting to think of those riffs in a new way, but I would also agree with the Old Skoolers that nothing tops those original riffs. Nice work either way! 🤘🏼😜

[@KradunkulousE]

I love how the 150bpm round was straight up Mick Gordon vs Hair Metal. Great video as always Pete.

[@Nyrlyat]

I just like Metal period...tho them classy riffs hit a chord with me

[@smylex99]

I have to disagree with the title. This would be more appropriately named, “Gen X Metal vs Zoomer Metal.” When I think of Boomers playing Metal, I think Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Blue Cheer, AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Kiss, Rainbow, etc., not the mid-80’s Thrash Metal scene.

[@stepeters]

Haha great video Pete. I'm of "boomer" age (as my son often reminds me) and grew up listening to Metallica, Anthrax, Kreator and Slayer etc. so appreciate the music that they created that I was fortunate to witness live in the mid 80's. I also like a lot of the modern detuned metal. Faves at the moment are Annisokay. If we're being honest the statement that it "all sounds the same" can easily apply to boomer and zoomer metal. Chill and give all of it a try that's what I say.

[@ghouliethousandtrouser2905]

If you're a boomer, wouldn't you have been between like 25 and 40 in the mid 80s? From context I think you might be gen-x. That's a whole different thing, lol. Not try'na be a smartarse, I'm just oddly fascinated by generational differences.

[@stepeters]

@@ghouliethousandtrouser2905 😀 - no idea my friend. All these "names" the young 'uns have for us confuses me. FYI, i was born in 1970 so i'm 52. Had the wonderful pleasure of seeing most of the Thrash greats in their prime. No phones in sight.

[@mattozx6rr]

As a Boomer I can honestly say I love both! i have been lucky enough to hear this all evolve over the last 40 years and really enjoy it from one end to the other.

[@MichaelScottGuitar]

Nice video! I am neither a boomer or zoomer, just a Metal Head to my core. I closed my eyes, and listened to both. The "boomer" metal slays it with technique, note articulation, and cohesiveness. The "zoomer" metal was in contrast to those three categories. Also, the grove was better on "boomer" metal. If it were not for the drums, the zoomer metal would have been a mudd puddle at some points. Blending them both would be okay, but not with the muddy G# lows.

[@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS]

I'm a "boomer" according to my kid but I LIKE this new stuff and BOG Studios does entire classic Metallica/Meshuggah albums that totally SLAM!

[@jamesryan1939]

I think you're getting your age groups messed up, boomer metal is black sabbath and led Zeppelin, Metallica is Gen X, Drop tuning started with Nu Metal which is Gen X/millennials Korn and Slipknot, Zoomers music is mumble rap, TikTok, and billie crapish.

[@GOAT-rl2uq]

There's a ton of great new music out there, including metal. I just really don't like the stereotypical zoomer metal. Oh and I think that one dude was 100% on the money regarding everyone sounding the same. I checked out some new metal whatever playlist on spotify and I shit you not I couldn't tell 98% of the bands apart.

[@putridabomination]

I'll take that a step further, I checked out most of the metalcore, deathcore, and djent bands on metal archives a few months ago. It was completely agonizing and they all more or less sounded the same.

[@patrickwilliamson29]

As compared to every 80s thrash band that sounded like and justice for all?

[@putridabomination]

@@patrickwilliamson29 bs name two albums that sound like anjfa

[@patrickwilliamson29]

@@putridabomination at least you can hear the bass in modern music...

[@putridabomination]

@@patrickwilliamson29 ... So, a: you can't name 2 albums that sound like ajfa b: you haven't listened to enough old school thrash to know that bass is hearable in a lot of albums. Being able to hear bass in "modern" music is debatable to say the least.

[@jkobain]

There's no such thing as «boomer X» vs «zoomer Y» I think. It is kind of a cultural isolation people force on themselves and think it's more comfortable for them this way. FFS, no it isn't!

[@michaelmiller5177]

Love them both. Millennial metal heads, we like all that heavy shit.

[@BigMacAttack83]

You damn Skippy

[@m.f.m4299]

Even though l'm a zoomer, the "boomer" style is my favourite

[@shanewalton8888]

Dude! Since when was Metallica "Boomer"? That is Gen X music. Get your decades straight.

[@putridabomination]

Right

[@MasterSplinterPDX]

They're both badass. Metal heads, we should focus on being happy that metal is still good and didn't end up like hip hop did.

[@Metalbass10000]

The boomer 150 bpm was a bit too much like Y&T is given a Mesa Dual Rectifier and Jake E Lee tried to give their riffs some needed balls. The Zoomer at 150 bpm, IMO, sounded like Metal riffs from the stuff I was listening to around 1988-ish. Yes, bands DID tune their strings to lower tunings. Don't believe that, and think Korn or Sevendust or someone in the 90's "invented" that? Well, setting aside a guitar masterclass in every song like Steve Vai playing seven string signature models, there were a few pioneering Metal and Progressive/Fusion bands who did, like Bluecheer, Led Zeppelin, and the Mahavishnu Orchestra, and of course, the band most recognized for lower tunings, probably the most influential band in the history of Rock, and Metal (cuz they kinda created Metal more than any other band) Jethro Tull! LMAO! Black Sabbath!!!!

[@beedtusgang3519]

NGL, I really like 150 Zoomer. Totally something I would play.

[@Anthropomorphic]

Hmmm... I'm fundamentally a fan of downtuned, ugly, wonky riffs, which I guess would be more "zoomer" in this case. The boomer riffs were better on the whole, in my opinion, but the comparison is fundamentally a little weird. It's basically a single contemporary trend versus a variety of past trends lumped together.

[@Erowens98]

I don't agree with this "boomer vs zoomer" divide. Djent is not the only form of "modern metal". There are thousands of bands that have creative, complex riffs. Even more so than 80s metal. Labeling all modern metal as Djent is borderline insulting to the thousands of bands that don't Djent.

[@DjentyB]

People: "My favorite era of metal is best!" Me: *"METAL IS METAL"*

[@kevinc6323]

The thing that should nt be was detuned a little. For me the riffs are less of an issue -if its I can understand the vocals. Loved the sound of Boltthrower for example but could not understand them so preferred other contemporaries. An issue I also have with modern metal is being a Gen-X, my hearing is not quite what it was and the definition of the low end is flabbier to me than I'm sure it is for others. As much as the speaker cone makes the most difference to guitar tone, an aging ear makes a difference too. But remember if we are not allowed to reimagine songs in new ways, there would be now Pete & Frog Leap Studios' Hello... and that would make the world a much sadder place.

[@RuudGerrevink]

Well I guess I'm a boomer (born in '61). Musically I appreciate both but the 6-string just sounds better to my ear.

[@LionidasL10]

Man that 150 Zoomer bit was catchy as fuck. I do feel like the Boomer metal is maybe closer to late 90s 2000s metal than 70s/80s. Maybe its just the virtuoso solos or some of the high pitches that are missing.