Thrash Metal Vs Metalcore

[@salitz91]

I have always enjoyed both, but thrash is how I got into metal and will always hold a dear place in my heart. Great riffing!

[@peteplaysmusic]

Me too, and thanks! :)

[@oulosvie]

I could say the same.

[@skaldgard]

Same here !

[@metaldeth166]

It's quite the opposite for me although I started with Metallica and Megadeth but what really got me into Metal was stuff like Parkway Drive,As I Lay Dying and Killswith to name a few

[@JonathanGasper]

Yup, me too!

[@KazeMemaryu]

I have a thing for both. On one hand, the beautifully rhythmic chugging of Thrash Metal, on the other the melodic intensity of Metalcore! If I had to choose, though, I'd probably stick to Thrash for the sheer aggressiveness. Amazing stuff, Pete!

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha, thanks! Yeah, I think I’d go with Thrash but Metalcore is really cool too. It also has a lot of Thrash influences so that helps :)

[@LeMichaelJordansPoleRiders]

if you love both, there's always thrash-fluenced metalcore in AILD, Phinehas, BFMV and Trivium which is thrash with metalcore elements IMO

[@wiardzijlstra5905]

These Metalcore riffs could also work very well in Thrash Metal

[@BigHomieSteveTheMetalHead]

I've always said the same thing, the heavier Metalcore riffs are very similar to Thrash. A lot of Modern Thrash bands blend genres, they tend to draw from Death Metal, Black Metal, Metalcore, Hardcore/Punk, and even some Doom Metal. There's some incredible newer Thrash Metal bands out there!!

[@stephantrejo8757]

my thoughts exactly! very solid examples

[@OGBaphomet]

​@@BigHomieSteveTheMetalHead That's because thrash and thrash adjacent bands once helped culminate in those styles. There's a reason you see "thrash Till Death!" assholes, because the genre really was that great at one point

[@BigHomieSteveTheMetalHead]

@@OGBaphomet ummm, what's wrong with saying "Thrash 'Till Death"? There are a lot of diehard Thrash Metal fans out there and I'm one of them, I listen to multiple other genres as well, everyone has their preferences. What's the problem?

[@OGBaphomet]

@@BigHomieSteveTheMetalHead I also tacked on the word "assholes" to specifically describe the ones that are gatekeepy jerks. The ones who think all metal after thrash isn't metal. Asshole elitists are a biproduct of any genre

[@trentonmcintyre5617]

I never get tired of the 2000s melodic core riffs

[@playdiscgolf1546]

The best metalcore sound period

[@SlyHikari03]

@@playdiscgolf1546 true. Modern stuff doesn’t sound the same.

[@abc4781]

​@@SlyHikari03tbh the modern stuff isn't even metalcore.

[@SlyHikari03]

@@abc4781 fair

[@KrisSchwarz98]

Its Nü-Metal with Metalcore which turned into Nü-Metalcore like: "My Ticket Home- Hyperreal/You All Know Better Than Me" ​@abc4781

[@didi_abdillah]

0:01 Battery 0:18 Angel Of Death 2:30 Blackened 2:54 Dyers Eve

[@lunchbagSSBU]

yeah i thought it sounded a little like snatches of metallica's kill em all and justice for all albums

[@blackheavyblans]

0:18 Angel of Death / Empty Hearts

[@zapiexa4947]

1:32 is a bit similiar to Madhouse by Anthrax

[@TheGhostField]

3:11 Kreator :)

[@M.LINS7]

@@TheGhostField name music

[@koscsa6]

the riffs blend so well into each other, great job as always \m/

[@peteplaysmusic]

Thanks! :)

[@bmac4]

At the end of the day they're both fusion genres between metal and punk, the stylistic musings are similar by design.

[@peteplaysmusic]

Yep, there’s definitely a lot of similarities between the two styles :)

[@Jakob_W3Ch4rg3_]

@@peteplaysmusic Trivium has entered the chat.

[@Barrsie]

Thrash definitely is nearer and dearer to my heart than most other metal styles. A lot of my early guitar journey featured a LOT of stuff from Metallica's first 4 albums.

[@peteplaysmusic]

Me too! :)

[@Sugar_K]

@@peteplaysmusic not half obvious

[@trebmaster]

Turns out...the combination of the two is better than just one by itself!!! Well done, Pete who plays music!

[@KENNETHCARNIE]

Having them mashed together is.. PERFECT THRASH CORE

[@Nickyd.]

Kinda like bullet for my valentine. Scream Aim and Fire has so much Thrash in it

[@SorceressWitch]

Thrashcore is already a thing in hardcore punk which is where the word thrash was originally used but they later called it core to differentiate from thrash metal that became a thing in the 80's. Metalcore itself was influenced by thrash metal and crossover thrash of you check out 90's metalcore. Melodic metalcore also has thrash influences. Bullet For My Valentine, Trivium, God Forbid, Shadows Fall just to name a few.

[@KENNETHCARNIE]

@@SorceressWitch you're the historian of metal!! You rock!

[@JamesContos85]

Thrash is what I got into metal with as a teenager. Metallica, megadeth, slayer, etc... But as metalcore came about and bands like Killswitch, as I lay dying, machinehead, etc started coming out I kinda fell in love with that genre too. To me metalcore is kinda what thrash directly evolved into as younger artists hit the scene. At least from most of the varieties of metal we have, metalcore draws soooo many parallels with thrash you can't ignore it. Your video reeeeeally illustrate the key differences AND the many similarities those 2 genres really have. Also, fkn awesome riffing man!

[@TheSharkAnt]

Machine Head is groove metal.

[@kryptoniana9489]

Machine head is Groove metal and even thrash metal...

[@suylyath2658]

I think it’s cause thrash and metalcore both have heavy roots in punk music

[@peteplaysmusic]

Thrash Metal or Metalcore, who wins? :)

[@mr.cantes]

Thrash rules!

[@Joshua-pr4mz]

Metalcore forever

[@jihamiya5755]

Yes

[@nowanknows8979]

I honestly think both are good and dont care that much for the versus part, but hearing two styles flowing into each other so nicely in a song is really cool, great video pete!

[@peteplaysmusic]

Thanks! :)

[@ob0-china]

agreed 100%

[@zakcook2271]

Thrash riff 3 just has to be the best for blending both Blackened and Dyers Eve esque riffs

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha, thanks! :)

[@Parka_Niel]

Second was caught in a mosh + mad house and First one had angel of death breakdown

[@christianisekin1215]

When I write songs, I never wonder what style it is! You can mix them all or just stay with one. Who gives a shit. People will like it or not. The end product is what counts. You are demonstrating it very well in this video.

[@DarthWinterMadness]

That's what I love with metal in general, you can pretty much blend every music style whilst still sounding great. Cheers from France! 🍻

[@android_dream]

This video is gonna get a spot on my playlist with how well the different sections feed into each other 😄 Not to mention how hard it rocks. Truly great musicianship here.

[@dandapice6056]

BOTH!! Awesome playing as always Pete. Keep crushing \m/ \m/

[@peteplaysmusic]

Thanks for watching! :)

[@jav6665]

Thrash, melodic death metal and metalcore riffs are my favourite. Mix them all in one amazing style 🤤🤘🏻

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha! It shall be call ‘Melodethrashcore’ Metal :)

[@jav6665]

@@peteplaysmusic yes please!

[@asymmetrix7049]

Funny you say that, Trivium is exactly that, their name even means "the place where three roads meet" referring to that specific three-way fusion

[@outofboundsbro]

Isn't that just Skeletonwitch

[@jav6665]

@@outofboundsbro yes you nailed it!

[@christidutoit]

It’s so weird. I’ve been a ‘core kid’ for the last 15 years and never even gave thrash a second listen, but recently thrash has just scratched an itch that I never knew I had. Guess a lot changes when you turn 30. 😅 Great vid, and great riffage!

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha, that's interesting. I kinda feel I'm going in the opposite direction. I always loved Thrash but grew up around the Core stuff too and I like it but, I just like Thrash more I guess. I think more interesting stuff is happening with Metalcore in recent years though :)

[@jkobain]

Music attracts moods and gets attracted as well. If only you're not a one trick pony, you like music of different bands and genres, naturally.

[@christidutoit]

@@peteplaysmusic True true! Metalcore is getting so ‘proggy’ now though - definitely loads of blurred lines in the heavier genres at the moment. In my mind it seems like thrash is making a bit of a comeback in the underground, but that could also just be because I’ve had Sylosis on repeat for the last few weeks. The irony is obviously that the metal guys and the core guys have always had beef, but there are so many similarities between thrash and metalcore playing styles. 😂

[@christidutoit]

@@jkobain Definitely true!

[@Eugensson]

Same same.

[@oliverlundgren6420]

I’ve always been a core-kid so I’m almost “disappointed” that there wasn’t a breakdown riff in here but those chugs in the second riff were still epic

[@2nd100k]

core is so cringe

[@lutscher7979]

@@2nd100k the fuck, did you just say that AILD, Trivium, Meshuggah are cringe ?

[@BigTony-bf5jr]

@@2nd100k true

[@scottybandicoot6347]

@@2nd100k yeah sure it is 🤣

[@ricksterdrummer2170]

@Spiritual Abortion That is definitely a modern metalcore breakdown!! Old-school metalcore didn’t have those paused 0’s all over.

[@Metalhead_cats]

Thrash metal was my introduction to metal, and now I also enjoy metalcore. Both have different qualities and I like them both.

[@WalruzMedia]

That metalcore harmony riff at the ending was best. You are sick riffing machine Pete!

[@pokiefeg]

i feel that Metalcore is what you hear on an AMV, Thrash is something that fits more in movie action scenes, idk why i feel it that way (btw 80´s-90´s thrash rules)

[@francis_bathory9362]

As a rhythm guitarist, I prefer combining both style. Thrash metal is a godlike training for my right hand , and great idea for my music. But i enjoy playing metalcore too. This genre is really interesting, i love the combination of dissonance and syncopated rhythms.

[@pauloraduarte]

I think the combination of both metal genres and, of course, with traditional metal riffs(and strong vocalist), is an excellent formula of success

[@Mr.K2022]

I love that he’s using Harley Benton guitars, it’s awesome! I need to get myself some

[@toddwilliams8128]

Sweet downpicking during a lot of the thrash riffs. A gentleman and a scholar.

[@dogdaysunrise1970]

He's so talented, I wish he had a band, the album would smash. His riffs are amazing. From the EMG 85/81 comparison to this ti many others

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha, thanks! I don’t have a band or a proper album but I do release a lot the songs from my videos and put the on Spotify etc. Link is in the description if you’re interested in checking them out :)

[@moodman1151]

It sounds like Thrash all the way to 1:50, when the second Metalcore riff starts. This is obviously not meant as hate, in contrast you made the first three riffs flow perfectly into each other. But I am not sure how well the first Metalcore riff actually represents Metalcore, if at all

[@justinlee4890]

Sometimes when I write music I find myself mixing these two styles. Fast tempo and phrygian scale of thrash metal, and melodic riffs of metalcore.

[@peteplaysmusic]

Metalcore definitely borrows a lot from Thrash so I often end up blending the two styles as well haha :)

[@Twoblocksdown-1]

Metalcore riff 1 - KSE Metalcore riff 2 - ATR Metalcore riff 3 - Avenged Sevenfold

[@Nick-gu4pg]

Name pls? Riff metalcore 2

[@karimsaikaly3420]

Yes please more videos comparing different styles. It helps so much beginners to know there styles

[@peteplaysmusic]

Sure! Any styles you’d like to see? :)

[@atomicpunk2360]

@@peteplaysmusic maybe some nu-metal riffs at some point?

[@jameshaunhavoktattoo2094]

Hahaha. The classic "don't like the placement of the volume knob....REMOVE!" .Amazing playing pete

[@Amogusgamer1000]

The thrash riffs sound a lot like Exodus to me, and i love it!

[@kotihollstein3808]

The BFMV vibes I got from both styles really put a smile in this old core kid's face.

[@derickpouliot5548]

Man! It's so hard for me to choose what is better. Both have had such an impact on my life.

[@marcoferrandi6191]

Thrash forever, but you rock so hard I love everything you play!

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha, thanks! :)

[@redtwox9708]

\m/ Hell yeah! Awesome playing Pete! I was head bangin' the whole 4 minutes If I really have to pick a winner: Thrash by a narrow margin \m/

[@Raidenisko]

2:29 that sounds like blackened riff that is played with solo

[@ElPresidenteKhan]

Played together like that it’s metal perfection. Wicked sick shredding man!! Beautiful.

[@gravelrhoads]

We won by getting to listen that! They really worked together so well. I went to high school in the 80's so thrash was my jam, but I love seeing the different paths younger generations have gone with it.

[@metalc0readd1ct]

If you combine all of these riffs you get bullet for my valentine basically 🤣

[@budaroddy]

Metalcore its ok untill you reach adulthood and realize Disgorge wasnt just grind noise, it just how life sounds

[@hypnovertigo7200]

From Mexico?

[@claudiu3005]

Thrash will always be special to me, cause it really got me into metal music in general. But metalcore, to me at least, gets everything amazing from thrash while also adding melodic sutff. I'm just in love with this 2000's metalcore! Also, the last two riffs for both genres, the thrash sounded like your own version of Blackened and Dyers Eve combined, and the metalcore riff reminded me so much of Killswitch Engage, As I Lay Dying and Bullet for my Valentine

[@vonicrimson3619]

I play in a thrash/metalcore (thrashcore) band and this goes hard

[@ralfhtg1056]

What I liked most about this video: how you combined them into one so it resulted in one harmonious picture. I like myself a little Thrash Metal, but I like Metalcore better.

[@axtrifonov]

Bullet For My Valentine, Sanctity, Envenomed, Shadows Fall, Trivium, Exzoust, X-Tinction...

[@timothymckane6362]

Thrash has more aggression while metalcore has more melodic elements. I like the guitar that you did for the thrash parts there.

[@peteplaysmusic]

Thanks! It’s a cheap Harley Benton but it looks a lot like the old ESP MX guitars that James Hetfield uses :)

[@applethief3113]

Yo this guy plays for 4 minutes at 200 bpm and his hand is not even tired. Man you are amazing

[@skyWAKAAA]

I loved both! Your riffs are absolutely monstrous man!!

[@nikkmorse]

I do love me a good ol bit of thrash, awesome as always pete 🤘🏼😈🤘🏼

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha, thanks! Love me some Thrash too :)

[@mikhaykostiuchenko7686]

Cool riffs, dude!!!! I've really enjoyed so much. Great HB guitar sound!!!! KEEP ON DOING IT!!!

[@maximalchill3959]

That absolutley brun my brain of, that was INSANE! instant abo

[@tim290280]

Like last weeks video, I think the two actually work well together. It would be interesting to see more songs that use different styles to create movement and dynamics.

[@peteplaysmusic]

Sure! Any styles you’d like to see? :)

[@tim290280]

@@peteplaysmusic, putting me on the spot.... Um, Gothenburg, thrash, djent, and a sprinkle of grunge (Smashing Pumpkins fuzz style). Wait, now I've put you on the spot...

[@Stryker2203]

You play so damn well!! I play since 2 years and I love it!! Of course I must get better ;-) For me Thrash wins \m/

[@peteplaysmusic]

Awesome! :)

[@guyfromnj]

That was some really great playing man. Killer

[@peteplaysmusic]

Thanks so much! Love me some all down picking Thrash and Metalcore :)

[@guyfromnj]

@@peteplaysmusic same here man.

[@torcher1616]

2:29 actually thought for a second thats was blackened second solo-riff (fast part), but its just similar and urs go different later. Interesting concept!

[@alvarg]

metalcore riff 2 was beast, those roswell pickups sound pretty good.

[@GitKlar]

1: Thrash (Great "Angel of Death"-impression. Sorry, I'm biased.) 2: Thrash (Very close, if the metalcore-riff had more emphasis on the syncopation, it would've won for me.) 3: Metalcore (Thrash felt very stiff on this one, whereas that's the kind of metalcore-riffing that I like.)

[@milodemoray]

I got into metal via Iron Maiden, then I got into Metallica and Megadeth. Mostly though I've always loved Hard Rock/Metal i.e. Black Sabbath, Deep Purple. I cannot say which of the two won, thrash or metalcore but they are both good.

[@drums4lyfe0987]

The seemless transitions between classic riffs in both “genres” is amazing.

[@therewasascene]

Been digging your thrash riffs, man

[@peteplaysmusic]

Thanks! Pleased you like it, love me some Thrash :)

[@thatstevedude225]

Fuck yeah, i clicked so fast just to hear your riffs 🤘

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha thanks! :)

[@brownpunk1794]

Hey man..am a new sub. 2 questions. 1) wat camera u using? 2) do u do multiple takes on same camera or do u have multiple cameras on 1 play thru (capturing many angles) Thanks in advance

[@peslaul182]

Loved the AJFA riffs pal 👊🏻👊🏻

[@thegreenembers]

I’d go thrash riffs but metal core vocals

[@66cidri]

I come from a poor family in a small city, and it wasn't easy growing up unable to have any of the nice things I always wanted. Always felt like the underdog, with no name. Small-town stuff. I remember always being angry, cause it was so unfair to my family. Even though my parents always gave me love and directed me through the right path. Thrash taught me to be proud of who I was and embrace my situation, it helped me channel my hate into something good. Today I have a good life, and a good job, and I was able to help my family thrive. I am happy with the person I've become. So, Thrash yesterday, trash today, and thrash forever! Cheers from Brazil, you MFs!

[@vikthorbrock]

Thrash riff #3 is Blackened/Dyers Eve. And Metalcore riff #3 is Unholy Confessions, I guess 😋🤘🤘

[@spishyofficial]

I'm far more familiar with the world of metalcore, but I love the bouncyness and speed of thrash... I love fast, chuggy, and melodic, so both genres are equally amazing to me.

[@kosty_705]

I really like metalcore, but I never listened to it before. I think, I should give it a try. Thanks for video!

[@SomebodyMeOnceTold]

Listen to Trivium's album Ascendancy and As I Lay Dying's album An Ocean Between Us.

[@kosty_705]

@@SomebodyMeOnceTold thanks for recommendations

[@kosty_705]

Yeah, these bands are really good, i like it so much

[@SomebodyMeOnceTold]

@@kosty_705 You're welcome! Glad you like

[@milodemoray]

Great riffing Pete!

[@peteplaysmusic]

Thanks! :)

[@damienalvarez2957]

Can we talk about how he’s got such a badass tone and he’s using stock Harley Bentons?

[@nikverschuren4291]

All good, but that last riff won me over. Some tremonti going on 3:38

[@Kowkarot]

I noticed some Angel of Death inspiration on the first thrash riff, and some Blackened and Dyers Eve on the last one.

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha, yep! Definitely threw in some nods to some songs in these :)

[@d0nsk0vic]

Metalcore Riff No1 personal favorite. Great job!

[@peteplaysmusic]

Thanks! :)

[@JaggedDagger]

You are truly an inspiration for me to keep plugging away and getting better at guitar. Unfortunately I am fairly new at recording and getting my stuff to actually sound good has been rough lol. I would love for you to hear some of the stuff I've done and get your opinion and possible advice.

[@peteplaysmusic]

That's awesome! My advice is to just keep going, learning and improving as you go so each recording gets better and better! I recommend checking out some of Glenn Frickers recording/mixing tutorials or if have more time check out some of the recording/mixing masterclasses on Creative Live. Thanks! :)

[@peerkes77]

Nice blend in the Thrash section: Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth and Anthrax 👍🏻😁

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha, thanks! I tried to make references to a bunch of songs in the riffs :)

[@gregorybuso]

DAMN Pete, this video is FIREEEEE

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha, thanks! :)

[@geyer1974]

Nice references in the riffs Pete… 🤘🏽

[@peteplaysmusic]

Thanks! :)

[@heavensplitter]

I spaced out for a second and didn't notice the transition between Thrash and Metalcore, I think that means something.

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha, I made them at the same tempo and key as it helps them blend better but sometimes they can sound similar. A lot of Metalcore borrows stuff from Thrash too :)

[@heavensplitter]

@@peteplaysmusic and both sounds dope as hell

[@jacobnewell7845]

Thrash may not have been my starting point on my metal journey, but it's the style I want to learn how to play more of

[@burnout247iw]

Basically Trivium hahaha. Great playing as always!

[@A_Brainless_Goblin]

are these new guitars? those fretboards are super polished and made me imagine all that effort before filming.

[@francoisdesmoulins-lebeaul4273]

As much as the thrash is about perfect (it's got a powerful taste of megallica or metallideth over it) I feel like the metalcore is in many parts more "core-ified thrash" than pure modern core. Still, super enjoyable!

[@Karenagy]

Beautiful quality as always! Thank you for another one 💜🤘🏻

[@peteplaysmusic]

Thanks for watching! :)

[@peznaranja9420]

excellent sound, to listen to on the trip

[@descendinguniverse]

I normally lean to thrash metal more but you make `em both appealing

[@peteplaysmusic]

I’m usually more of a Thrash person too. But I like both, there’s just something really cool about Thrash :)

[@confusedturtle55]

Great riffs man, just wish there were 1 or 2 more recent styles of metalcore riffs in there

[@wrongperfection]

No Metalcore riff compilation exist without something resembling Spirit Crusher, that is the truth

[@mcswordfish]

I played this video without looking at the screen, only glancing up when a riff made me go "Yeah!" - almost without fail it was a Thrash riff. The music of hyperactive-alcoholics meshes with my soul whether I am 14 or (nearly) 40

[@EXT0RT98]

I alway liked the idea of merging the two sub-genre’s, for they both have a unique style that would sound amazing blended together

[@bearmatic]

Thanks Pete for excellent distinction. Listened to this while cooking and thus did not know when styles switched. After revieweing, I only headbanged during thrash segments and was annoyed through the metal core ones. And not from lack of competence on Pete's behalf, I might add.

[@markmallett6985]

being around for 50 years I can appreciate both. I grew up on old rock but once the 80s hit it was thrash all the way. 🤘

[@JohnL2112]

1st one: "Cannot kill the family, blackened is found in me!"

[@mrfakovmrfako5245]

From 0:32 this "metalcore" sounds like normal hc punk 😁🤘

[@Necron00b]

Sick, Groove Metal Vs Mathcore next? haha

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha, maybe? I'm open to suggestions :)

[@PrEDoKBB]

Nice breakdown on part 2 of metalcore

[@peteplaysmusic]

Thanks! :)

[@baconfromhell666]

I think the first and last thrash parts sounded more like metalcore than most of the metalcore parts. The only thing that made it kinda thrash was the drums.

[@someacolyte5626]

The riff that starts at 3:14 gives me big trivium vibes, you didn’t have to go this hard with all these riffs

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha, thanks! Yeah, I was definitely referencing early Trivium with this :)

[@jorgemarca3122]

which is the song?

[@someacolyte5626]

Reminds me of a lot of their ones from Ascendancy

[@calebneff5777]

I liked both. I've always said that (non-3rd wave) metalcore is just an evolution of thrash!

[@thed3m0n0id9]

MAN!! So jammin!! I love the Metallica all over your thrash riffs xD and the metalcore reminded me a lot of Sylosis, whom I got into because of you! :D

[@peteplaysmusic]

Haha, thanks! Definitely can’t not include some nods to Metallica and sometimes Sylosis in my riffs. I love both those bands so much. The latest Sylosis song that they just released is so awesome. The outro is amazing haha :)

[@thed3m0n0id9]

@@peteplaysmusic Oh snap! They just released something new? I'M ALL OVER IT. Can't blame you! Sylosis quickly became a new fav band after I found them from a link in the comments on one of your original tracks.