Peter Oborne: ‘I can’t forgive myself’ for voting for Brexit, but Britain will rejoin EU

[@emastro]

As an Italian, I have to say I have a lot of admiration for Mr Oborne and his almost Italian ability to f*ck things up and then seamlessly switch sides. Reminds me of my grandfather, who in 1943 was a member of the fascist party, then 3 days before the Allies occupied his town disappeared in the countryside, and reappeared a week later claiming to be a member of the resistance (like most adult males in town). I think he even got a medal out of it.

[@foxkillingtime]

@@davidmullett1152 Who rattled your mullet?

[@foxkillingtime]

@@davidmullett1152 😥🙏

[@simonwinter8839]

Maybe this sort of behaviour isn't exclusively Italian, well judging by this guy's stance it isn't !!

[@mooncake387]

🤣😂😂

[@sommeliermiketaylor18]

BRAVO ! Bravissimo ... Perfect opinion !

[@paulmessenger9836]

The problem is with this man and people like him they never leave or speak to anyone outside of the M25

[@jacksonmahr8915]

It's hard to tell if the M25 was built to keep Londoners contained, or to keep everyone else out. But it is a problem - Manhattan and NYT has similar issues

[@TringmotionCoUk]

Apart from going to school (Dorset), university (Cambridge) and work (International)? The problem with comments like this is the writer is unable to string together a real argument

[@sibutterworth6542]

Full of heavenly thoughts and of no earthly good!!

[@emberplate]

​@@TringmotionCoUk Cambridge and Dorset Could you have missed the point any more?

[@TringmotionCoUk]

@@emberplate I know exactly what the point was, and you - being not too bright, somewhat missed mine. Even if the comment was straight, outside of Poole, people working in Dorset are miles off being higher rate tax payers.

[@maxuk5023]

Not the decision of the UK to rejoin. The EU will make that decision and there's no rush.

[@Purple_flower09]

The UK is nowhere near asking either.

[@camm8642]

hope the EU does not allow them to even attempt to return they will just be trouble like hungary....maybe make a deal over certain things but never again a member

[@andrewcockburn7484]

When he said he regrets Brexit, you should have asked him what he thought would happen.

[@sukhmaidickoff]

Spot-on comment! 👍👍

[@nicolaasstempels8207]

At least he regrets that asinine decision.

[@calmlikeabomb1984]

His Thoughts: Apes vs Ducks.... in Space..... Part III... The Musical. Then he shorts every Company that will lose Value because of it and exchanges his earnings in USD and €. Haha. Don´t Sue me...I am joking, just Joking...

[@jansix4287]

Brits don't think.

[@truckerfromreno]

He's so weak.

[@maxharbig1167]

I hope people in the UK do realise that an application to join has to meet the Copenhagen Criteria, requires the approval of the national parliaments of the 27 plus that of about 10 regional parliaments and, at least in France and Ireland, an approval referendum before parliamentary approval.

[@maartenaalsmeer]

Without previous rebates and exceptions. And the process could take decades. A reality check has been long overdue.

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

They'll be approved. But they'll need to adopt the Euro and won't get their "tax write-off". It's their best shot at avoiding international irrelevance, too.

[@maxharbig1167]

@@DrVictorVasconcelos I wouldn't bet on getting all those approvals. It's not just the legal commitment to adopt the euro, or no rebates. What about Spain and Gibraltar, and/or Greece and the Elgin marbles? Some countries may use their veto because they consider FTPT to be undemocratic, in that EU countries have PR electoral systems. Too many ifs and buts. Besides the UK still has to fully comply with the TCA that is up for review/audit, not renegotiation, in 2025. A bit early to talk about future relations before current obligations have been fulfilled. Maybe, in the meantime, other EU countries might introduce the prior referendum requirement, like France and Ireland before approval. The EU is content with the status quo. Why should it change it because a member that left rather acrimoniously wants to return just because it finds itself up the excremental creek without a paddle?

[@julianshepherd2038]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 yup

[@jackiechan8840]

Don't hold your breath

[@dwdei8815]

He didn't just vote for Brexit, and knowingly - "It led to this period of chaos which I think was foreseeable" (yes, it was!). He campaigned and urged for it. He used his position to influence others to vote for it.

[@tonyrobson6457]

Have you seen the chaos in the eu😂😂

[@MagMar-kv9ne]

@@tonyrobson6457 It is not worse than in the UK or USA, man.

[@tonyrobson6457]

@@MagMar-kv9ne the amount of EU countries who have riots and farmers going against there governments because of EU legislation. The UK doesn't have that we have a few small protests about pay. I'd love to know what you watch to come to that conclusion 🤦🤣

[@noelfleming3567]

A protest in Europe is always chaos for d brexiteers its all they wish for Europe in trouble but 27 members are a lot better than stand alone in a country with proven liars at d helm😂😂😂

[@Tas17.4]

​@@tonyrobson6457they haven't got over 7 million waiting for health care 🤦‍♂️ FFS. They also aren't swimming in sewage, try again Muppet

[@Fokkerflight]

No buddy, you guys are to special for us Europeans, so we think you should stay exceptional on your island. 8 years after Brexit I have yet to meet a person from mainland Europe who would accept UK back. You didn’t like it before, you won’t like it after. So stay exited

[@VincentRE79]

Peter Oborne is constantly changing his mind on issues, I find it hard to take him seriously.

[@SarahBakewell-pq7pb]

Frankly I have trouble believing he actually voted for Brexit in the first place.

[@VincentRE79]

@@SarahBakewell-pq7pb Agree, he probably never voted at all. I remember before the 2019 General Election reading an article by him telling us why we should all go out and vote for Jeremy Corbyn. This interview is awful, the interviewer is like a puppy dog. I would have challenged his crazy opinions.

[@Martinskitchen-pj9yd]

@@SarahBakewell-pq7pb he did.

[@douglasnorth2429]

Sort of highlighting an issue Rory Stewart brought up; if a politician changes his/her mind then it’s seen as weakness.

[@VincentRE79]

@@douglasnorth2429Yes but as circumstances change you can accept a change of mind. Rory Stewart the man who would have done anything to become PM, even changed political party.

[@FrancisFjordCupola]

Let us be clear: no. The choice of whether or not Britain rejoins our union is our decision. It is not for the UK to decide. And we should not let the UK back. They cannot handle the responsibility.

[@Henknibbering]

Don’t ever let them back in.

[@johanwilmout4631]

As a British subject and a strong Brexiteer I fully agree with you. Do not let us back. We are fine on our own, and it won't be long before the wheels come off the Brussels Circus.

[@oldishandwoke-ish1181]

I agree. A long period of self-reflection is very necessary. An international trade community is not a hop-on, hop-off bus.

[@timrussell9869]

The wheels came off the British circus quite a while ago. Self inflicted foot shooting.@@johanwilmout4631

[@todorstoyanov1111]

​@@johanwilmout4631Are you blind?

[@Piden-l4b]

The EU has provided us with over 75 years of peace and prosperity in Europe. But it is now time to reform itself. A Orban Hungary that can hold the rest of the members at ransom has no place in the EU. I would welcome the UK any time over the current Hungary.

[@katywalker8322]

@@bendreczko9054, Hungary is an eu member

[@harshbutfair8993]

@katywalker8322 Shh Alternative or made up facts are just as valid don't you know 🧐

[@bendreczko9054]

@@katywalker8322 your right I was thinking about turkey.

[@joesoy9185]

@@paullarne No, it was about sending EU funding to the Ukraine, but then you wouldn´t know that, would you.

[@Robert-xy4xi]

​@@bendreczko9054Have a look at current EU members list! Hungary has been a full EU member since 2004!

[@nox8730]

As a EU citizen, i demand our governments to organize a referundum in in every EU countries in the case the UK tries to join once again. If the EU people refuse them, then, bye bye the UK, once and for all. I vote against. If you want your money, go see the USA, they love it, too. That is what you have always done anyway.

[@PhoneyTony]

UK put more money in than it took out. The same as Germany, UK (before Brexit) France, Netherlands, Italy, Sweden, Denmark, Austria, Finland and Ireland. The rest took more than they gave. Which nation are you from "EU Citizen"?

[@timrussell9869]

Yep, abandoned their traditional friends and markets in the Commonwealth when they joined the EEC, back in the 70s, and then abandoned the EU due to xenophobic attitudes. Who would ever trust Britain again?

[@DT-ro6cc]

We dont want them anymore

[@johanwilmout4631]

Don't believe all you read about the British people having changed their minds. I don't know a soul who regrets their decision to vote 'Leave', but I do know several people who have admitted that it was the right decision and couldn't see it at the time. European nations have traded with each other for several thousand years - even through wars at times - without the 'help' of unelected politicians making up rules behind closed doors. I look forward to the total collapse of the EU and we can go back to direct trading as we used to do, and anyone who doesn't want a consignment of 'not perfectly straight cucumbers' only has to say 'No'. I have nothing against Europeans, but the pseudo-communist EU is definitely not to my taste. One size does not fit all. You are all individual nations with your own cultures, weaknesses and strengths, which reflects on the economy of the country, but the Brussels Circus would like you to be all the same. Not possible. Added to which some very stringent rules for membership were laid down but are conveniently forgotten if it is politically expedient to ignore the rules. Some of these new members have proved less than desirable.

[@TheLucanicLord]

The Vicky Pollard model of international relations.

[@adoatero5129]

The interview is interesting, but the serious problems with sound editing seem to continue at Times Radio. The volume of the introductory music is ridiculously high compared to the rest of the content. Getting such things right is a very basic and easy thing to do (for anyone dealing with broadcasting), which makes Times Radio not being able to achieve that after years of negative feedback from the audience pretty astonishing. Large changes in sound volume during a show cause a real practical problem or at minimum an inconvenience for many watchers/listeners, who have to rush to turn down or up the volume whenever it changes largely. When even most individual low-budget KZbinrs get it right, why cant Times Radio? Edit: The problematic introductory music has now been cut away from the video.

[@germansnowman]

Thanks, came here to write this. I used to complain about the crackling noise, which has been fixed. This specific video has such a low volume that I cannot listen to it without headphones. It wouldn’t be hard to add a compressor.

[@3373just]

​@@germansnowmaneven with headphones it's not loud enough! Very poor!!! 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@bjornotter4298]

I think the sound is excellent, when I sit here and listen in front of my stereo in Sweden. 🤔

[@adoatero5129]

@@bjornotter4298 They have now cut away the problematic introductory part away from the video, so you probably didn't even hear it (you couldn't have not noticed the problem, had you heard that part). The general sound level on the video is still too low, but at least it's consistent. The overall sound quality is now good, excluding unnecessary emphasis on some bass frequencies. The aim of that emphasis is to make the voices sound "richer", but it also makes them to sound somewhat unnatural. The effect is not used very heavily, though, and some people actually prefer listening to audio where bass frequencies have been unnaturally emphasized.

[@dixonpinfold2582]

I've been complaining about this for years. But I've come to realize that, the political slant and wonted dimwittery being perennially even worse, it's only to be expected.

[@patwilson2546]

Serious question: why would the EU want you back? Britain was a PITA when it was in the union, demanding exemption upon exemption. Why would the EU want to go through that again? Seems to me that Britain would have to concede quite a bit, agreeing to follow EU policy without exemptions.

[@mike_oe]

Mainly because the EU needs all the bulk it can get with madmen in Russian and (possibly again) in the US.

[@patwilson2546]

@@mike_oe EU is a civil and trade partnership, not a military alliance. Britain is already part of NATO, so Europe already has Britain on its side should war break out.

[@nox8730]

Exactly my friend. For context, i am french, and it appears these britons were indeed always a problem in the EU. Are you american? If so, you are surprisingly well documented.

[@rapier1954]

@@mike_oe Britain and other members of the EU are already part of NATO while the EU itself is not a military alliance. You don't have a clue about the reality of how these matters work.

[@normanstewart7130]

Even if the UK were to agree to follow EU policy without exemptions, the EU couldn't trust them.

[@channelsixtyeight068_]

_but Britain will rejoin EU_ - That's up to the EU member states, not the UK. The UK still doesn't understand that.

[@AChapstickOrange]

One word: Gibraltar. Yup. Brits ain't comin' back.

[@channelsixtyeight068_]

@@AChapstickOrange Good.

[@johnattwell8899]

We don’t want to rejoin .

[@LoeZack]

​@@johnattwell8899that's great! As a half Italian and half Austrian I thank you from the bottom of my heart!

[@johnattwell8899]

No problem .

[@rezarfar]

We won't be able to rejoin now, the hurt is too near, maybe in 20-30 years when all those involved have passed on, then maybe we can rejoin.

[@davidatkinson-Music-and-More]

This clown, in 2024, thinks the biggest political issue facing the U.K. is, er, EU membership. Whatever the rights and wrongs of that decision, that assertion right now perfectly demonstrates how out of touch Oborne is.

[@aituk]

None of the reasons for leaving have changed. All he's stated is he doesn't like the chaos that came afterwards A terrible argument, weakly put

[@verttikoo2052]

We 🇪🇺 should now bend over and hand out all the Membership Benefits back for the UK so that they can do cherry 🍒 picking and get everything for free plus 350 million per week 🥳 All this and next week 🥳🤣😂

[@patrikfloding7985]

What reasons? A bunch of made up stuff?

[@aituk]

@@patrikfloding7985 You seriously think no one had any good reason to vote to leave the EU? That it was just a 100% win for britain and there were no down sides at all?

[@SJG-nr8uj]

​@@patrikfloding7985 Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!

[@Globaldave1970]

Can't believe he's 'Conservative'.

[@davidwarner1459]

This is the sort of conversation I have on a Saturday afternoon in the Streatham Wetherspoons!

[@terrycourtnadge4159]

Holland Trimingham - darn good all round venue.

[@warrenstanford7240]

You’re a barrel of laughs….

[@Globaldave1970]

Does he go in there?

[@Sean006]

At least he didn't say "it's the wrong sort of Brexit"!.....he seems to have realised that Brexit was fundamentally flawed and always going to be a clusterfcuk. But unfortunately his credibility is holed below the waterline. What else is he getting badly wrong?!

[@Globaldave1970]

@@Sean006 People voted Brexit to take control of the laws and especially the borders. That hasn't happened. That is why the Tories will take a drubbing. But Nationalist Populism is far from over despite what guru Oborne thinks.

[@marysakawa4628]

The government has really called things more difficult for its citizens, and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance.It's obvious we are headed for hyperinflation, it is always the poor who take the hit.

[@kemberlyw.patterson]

Starting early is the best way of getting ahead to build wealth, investing remains a priority.

[@TomasPLopez]

​@@kemberlyw.pattersonYou are right, to be a successful person in life require he or she of hard work and times.

[@natashanile907]

Stay invested, diversification for streams of incomes is very important And with the right skills and proper understanding of how the market works

[@eddiet.campbell]

The stock market has plenty of opportunities to earn a decent payouts, with the skills and proper understanding of how the market works.

[@eddiet.campbell]

I learnt from my last year's experience, i am able to build a suitable life because I invested early ahead this time.

[@guyh9992]

The assumption in Australia is that a future Labour PM will declare that Britain's future lies in Europe just as Harold Wilson did in 1968 when he announced the withdrawal from East of Suez that was not well received by Lee Kuan Yew and the Australian government. The British have a long history of completely reversing foreign policy based on which party is in power or who the PM is; Empire trade preference in 1932, Europe First under Churchill in 1942, end of Commonwealth trade preference flagged by applications to join the EEC in the 60s, East of Suez in 1968, EEC membership in 1973 and Brexit in 2018.

[@kacrichton4434]

There are plenty of good reasons why a trading relationship with a neighbour is superior to a trading relationship with one country the other side of the world.

[@Owlfern]

Absolute nonsense. Times change and policies change to reflect those changing times.

[@solentrambler]

@@kacrichton4434 China and India are hardly next door. Both are extremely important trading partners.

[@ginojaco]

Don't worry Peter, I can't forgive you for not going away and being quiet somewhere...

[@DAVIDSHEILS-fs1og]

HERE HERE!

[@rumourhats]

He's like the inverse Peter Hitchens - Oborne is the now darling of the far-left double down news types.

[@maartenaalsmeer]

Cambridge Econometrics has recently calculated that the decision to leave the EU has cost the UK £140bn. Usual Brexiter whataboutery reaction: "yeah but, no but, yeah but... Germany in recession!" As if that makes the UK's situation better. Brexit has seriously damaged the UK's economy. Fact. Pointing at other nations doesn't change that one bit. Especially since most of those nations are still doing better! The UK's GDP per Capita is *ranked only 17th place* in Europe. That's not 'world beating' now, is it? It's not even beating Germany's GDP per capita: still higher, (rank 12 in Europe) even though in recession.

[@jeanpierreviergever1417]

Agreed, many Brexiteers ignore that the UK economy recovered from covid much slower and much less than Germany France and other EU countries. The recession on the continent is mild with almost complete enployment maintained. In the Netherlands an important factor in the recession is that there is not enough personnel to fulfill many posotions which cause a slower economy.

[@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp]

Where you from Marty?

[@ytsm]

The only way the UK can improve its per capita GDP is by severely limiting the level of low end immigration. It'll also halt the sharp decline in IQ. Dysgenics is strongly linked to economic decline.

[@callsigndd9ls897]

There are also too few workers in Germany, especially too few skilled workers. All of Europe is in a mild recession, inevitable after Covid, the energy restructuring and the war in Ukraine. As an export country, Germany is of course feeling this global purchasing reluctance somewhat more than countries that are not as export-oriented.

[@matt-eu-poland]

I doubt the EU would accept Britain back.

[@verttikoo2052]

@dogglebird4430We 🇪🇺 also think so 🎉

[@chatham43]

@matt...then we'll all be happy matty boy...except you who'll no doubt continue sulking in your bedroom...😊

[@nebhalabir1201]

​@d😂ogglebird4430

[@paulgibbons2320]

Good we paid them enough already.

[@roastntoast7550]

How about the food shortage in UK? There is no such a thing in the EU! ​@@paulgibbons2320

[@joesoy9185]

20:19 The Brexit bit starts here.

[@e.o.9094]

Thank you!

[@viquiben4919]

🙏 thanks.

[@hencole]

Another example of the public school journalist system where you are led to believe that your opinion on things, despite a lack of knowledge on what that matter is, is somehow more valid than that of the people who live and breath it. And Peter is one of the good guys from that stable who cna at least restrospectively step back, but still a very insular world they live in.

[@geertstroy]

Greaaaatly worded...no clicks...of course.

[@zen4men]

Is your worldview any less insular?

[@didiscores]

You are journalist, public school teacher or student ? If yes, then your opinion is more valid. If no, you suffer by Dunning-Kruger effect.

[@Muckylittleme]

@@zen4men Let me educate you. I'm so proud of Brexit and all those who voted for self determination through sovereign democracy rather than foreign based technocratic dictatorship. I have never met a Remainer who understands even the basic principles of democratic self determination or why nations actually came to exist and why it is important to have people who share your history, culture and heritage govern from within that nation and accountable to the people. With that level of ignorance on all things geopolitics Remain used their vote to demand their votes never had any relevance again. That is some serious cognitive dissonance. As for Brexit, they said it would take over 10 years just to get worse trade deals with EU countries than we already had. We had the same or better deals with every EU country within two years. Yes, because of EU intransigence and their desire dissuade other countries leaving they refused to have mutually beneficial tariffs so EU goods cost a little more, but on the other hand we don't pay tens of billions up front just to be able to do that trade in a stagnating protectionist single market. Not only that but the EU dictated that we could not make new trade deals outside the EU without their approval, imagine voting for more of that tyranny and self harm! Now we have dozens of improved and new trade deals that diversify our exports and imports which is important in a global economy and bring in extra billions in GDP. We will soon be benefitting from massive new trade deal within the CPTPP that rivals the size of the EU market and unlike the EU is seeing good growth. Brexit was the best thing to happen to this nation in 50 years, the only real issue is that our special interest serving politicians don't want to take advantage of it for the benefit of our nation and people. The answer to that is to vote in a patriotic populist government and stop voting for career politicians whoa re all signed to UN agenda 2030 and WEF Great reset.

[@zen4men]

@@Muckylittleme You jump to the conclusion that I am a Remainer! I actually agree with all you say. My ancestors fought for the Crown for centuries, and were at time rebels. It makes me value Freedom - something that has been steadily eroding over the past 40 years. /

[@greghillier5176]

i doubt the people living in the EU will forgive brittain enough to allow them to rejoin. when brittain left the EU they gave europe and the rest of the world the finger.

[@Seashore1403]

Yep!

[@dub604]

British exceptionalism persuaded 17.4 people that "they need us more than we need them".. That same exceptionalism is now trying to convince people that we can return if we want..... This is delusional.

[@glynnwright1699]

Wrong, on both accounts.

[@dub604]

@@glynnwright1699 🤡😂

[@glynnwright1699]

@@dub604 Silly cartoons, is that the scope of your intellect?

[@AChapstickOrange]

@@glynnwright1699 What, and you think saying "Wrong, on both counts" is tantamount to the devastating argument of a genius? How is either wrong? For instance: show us how the EU is just panting on the floor, begging the UK to come back because it needs it so much. Show us how the UK if poised to return to the EU by mere fiat, given that it would only take one member to say "no" (Spain, for instance, with its likely laundry list of demands). But do please go on. SHOW US.

[@glynnwright1699]

@@AChapstickOrange The statement that 17.4 million people thought that the EU would miss the UK is complete fantasy. Some people believed that they benefitted from being in the EU, rather more thought that they were disadvantaged and that leaving the EU would be the best option. It is convenient for some of those who lost the referendum to bracket everyone who voted to leave as easily led and of inferior intellect. The reality is that those who wanted the UK to remain failed to make a sufficiently strong case, despite the government openly supporting them. No political party of any substance is promoting rejoining the EU. Most of that 17.4 M have been dismayed by the process of leaving and certainly don't want ten more years of divisive drama associated with rejoining the EU. Just about every geopolitical action taken by the UK in the last five years has established 'clear water' between policies in Brussels and London, specifically much stronger connections with Asia, CPTPP, defence treaties with Japan and AUKUS. This morning I received an email from a South Korean requesting that my company considers collaboration on a research programme sponsored by both governments, that would never have happened before 2016. The UK has moved on from the EU, it won't be rejoining soon, if ever.

[@simonclarke2939]

Oborne is a natural conservative who has belatedly realised that the his tribe are currently beyond the pale. What he is saying here is largely correct, but would carry much greater weight (including his criticisms of Labour) if he had previously criticised all sides without fear or favour.

[@SJG-nr8uj]

Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!

[@helenaville5939]

@simonclarke. I agree. Oborne had a personal falling out with the owner of the Daily Mail and, ever since, has been peddling centre-left principles to make a shilling. His career-enhancing tactics remind me of Groucho Marx when he said "I have principles. And if you don't like them I have a different set of principles."

[@eddievangundy4510]

The EU is a flop. And dangerous.

[@colinireson9339]

Future governments should concentrate their efforts on re-building this country's infrastructure, industries, economy, etc rather than distracting themselves with re-joining the EU. It is highly unlikely that the French and German governments would want us back anyway.

[@tomwalters2529]

Lets hope they don't!

[@Jason-wm5qe]

Vacuous political stunts is all the hacks in government can manage. Actually building requires leadership and a backbone

[@noonecaresaboutgoogle3219]

Rejoining the single market would help rebuild the economy. Leaving is one of the reasons it's stalled.

[@Jason-wm5qe]

@@noonecaresaboutgoogle3219 the euro is also stalled though. would us re-joining also help the euro?

[@gnrseanra9070]

​@@noonecaresaboutgoogle3219Really are you keeping ahead of latest developments in Eurozone?

[@NellsMechanicalManCave]

Brexit was decided many years ago. 17 something million voted for it. Get over it and get on with life.

[@jonathansimmons5353]

*"IF OUR VOTE DONT COUNT, NEITHER WILL YOURS"*

[@Will46666]

Exactly. You have to realise though, that YT is rife with 77th Brigade. They don’t believe in democracy anyway.

[@stefenney3126]

My vote counted - we left.

[@Biketunerfy]

My vote didn’t: we left and I wanted us to stay. What a mistake it was to leave without trade deals in place. Utterly reckless.

[@Will46666]

@@Biketunerfy That is what happens in a democracy. You lost. Tough. Get over it.

[@TinaButcher-r6m]

@@stefenney3126 mine didn't I voted remain

[@danielrawlings8355]

All countries must be sovereign, independent & self governing.

[@stewartmackay]

Every country in Europe is a sovereign country.

[@danielrawlings8355]

@@stewartmackay Sadly not, while EU member.

[@stewartmackay]

@@danielrawlings8355 If you believe that nonsense, then you know why we have Brexit.

[@danielrawlings8355]

@@stewartmackay EU membership requires all countries to implement any & all EC (Now EU) regulations & directives. This removes nation state sovereignty. Please see European Communtities Act 1972.

[@danielrawlings8355]

@@stewartmackay Incidentally, English constitution forbids laws to be made outside its borders.

[@jacksonmahr8915]

You're not alone, Peter, many of us can't forgive you either. But a great interview and thoughtful opinions

[@jdg9999]

Those of us who are actual Brexiteers don't care what you think you shitlib globalist.

[@ElviraCondomine]

​@2aph0d_b33blebr0x Such a deep and mature reply. It must have taken you ages to come up with.

[@fricozoid1]

@2aph0d_b33blebr0x And you're apparently a "winner", still bitter and twisted and angry. Brexit must be going well then 🤣🤣🤣

[@Globaldave1970]

As soon as UK left, covid appeared, shutting the economy down for two years...... but Remoaners still blame everything on Brexit.

[@bartvermeulen6515]

Britain Will rejoin 😂😂 don’t think so. Maybe as a paying submember like Norway and the Swiss. But with nothing to say in it.

[@Sandysand701]

I don't think the EU will continue in its current format, it will collapse as more members leave, unless it changes back to being just a trading block.

[@Michael_from_EU_Germany]

Last 5 minutes of planet earth (vor dem Untergang) a Brit will shout: The EU won't last long. Reality today Brexit loss for UK 2022: 100 billion pounds Brexit loss for UK 2023: 140 billion pounds

[@soraite9775]

I dont see that happening anytime soon. Even if the next government is pro rejoining EU and even the one thereafter. Even if there is a new referendum that is like 55% to 45% in favor of rejoining. As someone living in the EU and what you can gather whenever the topic is brought up here, there will need to be a sufficient time passed and then there has to be a really significant majority in the UK society for the EU, in order that when UK joins in 5 years later the wind has changed in the UK again and they want to leave again. They have to proof beforehand that they truely believe in the project EU and are truely willing to commit to it, or stay out. On the other hand the door is always open to join the single market and other EU project and developement and science programs on EU terms, and here i see the nearer futur for the UK.

[@johnbrereton5229]

The EEC/EU didnt seem to mind when Heath took us in ilegally in 1972 when the British electorate was 3 to 1 against joining. Heath broke our Constitution to drag us into the EU dictatorship yet the EU was happy to have a reluctant member then. But don't worry, we will never return after it took us 50 years to leave it !

[@anonnemo2504]

We needn't worry. Such an application could never happen and certainly not before the EU has ceased to exist. Given its inexorably rising internal tensions, I give it about 10 years.

[@upnorth2421]

​@@anonnemo2504do you live in the EU? Since in here we are fine. There is always discussions and different opinions, that is part of what the EU is. After all, this is a union of independent nations.

[@anonnemo2504]

@@upnorth2421 Thankfully, I do not live in the EU. All you say simply speaks to the power of EU propaganda, the only thing at which it excels, and I find your view that EU nations are "independent" quite risible.

[@fitzstv8506]

Single market membership may not be an option without becoming a full EU member, the UK could possibly secure terms like Norway, Switzerland and Iceland have.

[@vernonlemoignan1392]

As globalism continues to die, the UK will be in a good position to make the most of it. I don’t see how going back to being under the thumb of the crazies in Europe could be a good idea. The only thing the IK did wrong was not leave earlier to try to stem the tide of immigration that imported millions of people who absolutely hate the UK and everything it stands for.

[@giffardsercombe3169]

I can't forgive you, either. It was so obvious that Brexit would be a disaster for the uk!

[@tomeastell2682]

How about we focus on uniting the nation before trying anything else.

[@vulgar_scabby_beaver]

because right wing politics runs on division.

[@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp]

The pro-EU camp have literally spent EIGHT YEARS telling everyone how much they hate them for their political views up to and including wishing people's elderly relatives an early death... I mean...?

[@whitleybayman123]

Well, here in Scotland we want out of the silly union, as do a lot of our Welsh and Irish friends. Getting back in the EU WILL help all of those countries

[@rostislavmulyeev760]

A lot, yes, but clearly nowhere near enough. @@whitleybayman123

[@Pilvenuga]

it's a bit ambiguous - do you mean uniting the welsh, irish, or uniting the scots? because up until now, the english were uniting the UK just fine

[@andythorne6236]

Why would Europe trust us not to leave again?

[@lestrem11]

Trust and the EU are never used in the same sentence.

[@AChapstickOrange]

@@lestrem11 Apparently they are, because he just did... just like "bigotry" and "gammon" can be.

[@lestrem11]

@@AChapstickOrange Here’s the thing thicko. Trade has stalled in the Red Sea area because our Houthi friends antics. We send warships to guard ALL ships, Germany and France were asked to do the same, they declined, but asked for their ships to be guarded. Of course, you won’t ‘get it’ , how could you, you are thick.

[@dal6984]

I trust the Europeans but do not trust the EU. EU is a basket case.

[@milsub59]

I can't forgive Oborne either.

[@huskytail]

I certainly hope it will pass a big generation, hopefully two, before Brexit is reversed. Europe has no choice but to be united in this world but I am not going to forget the way Europeans were treated by the UK anytime soon. Once the veil is down, you can't pretend it never happened.

[@annewalden3795]

Huskytail the population of the UK did not mistreat the E U . You can't blame the people for the political class and the Media .

[@trevormj]

Peter - I can't forgive you either.....you have really bolloxed up my life, and you are right, it was easily foreseeable.

[@lestrem11]

99.9% of people haven’t even noticed.

[@timcomley5948]

Deary me 😲

[@DesL488]

​@@lestrem1199.9% of people who still believe that Brexit was a good idea are delusional or did it for personal financial gain.

[@trevormj]

@@lestrem11 - just not true - 60% of people regret their decision and wish to rejoin - where did you get your figures from? the back of a bottle of detox?

[@Arkantos117]

What's wrong, were you slightly inconvenienced when going on holiday? The horror.

[@rjw4762]

Britian's wealth and place in the world can be traced - it started going south when we JOINED the EU, not left it. As for Brexit - it's never properly happened so cannot be judged.

[@stewartmackay]

You are talking total nonsense. I remember it well, the UK was known as the "sick man of Europe" before 1973, the country was verging on bankruptcy. Joining what was the EEC massively boosted trade and over the course of 47 years catapulted the UK to the 5th richest country in the world. Now we have left the worlds largest free market, we are much less use to the US and we are a net importer. We have tariffs and paperwork where there was none before, and of course the only people in Europe to lose their freedom of movement are the Brits. So get your head out of the sand and wake up to reality.

[@Michael_from_EU_Germany]

Reality Brexit loss for UK 2022: 100 billion pounds Brexit loss for UK 2023: 140 billion pounds

[@Erakius323]

No, the U.K should not be allowed to rejoin the E.U, for at least 20 years. Once a new generation, have come along, then, maybe, the U.K should be allowed. However, only if it agrees to all the E.U's terms, accept the Euro, accept Human Rights, accept Open Borders, etc.

[@chrisk1732]

We DON’t wish TO REJOIN ,,, GET THAT FIRMLY IN YOUR MIND Now spending the billions of budget cash on the development of the U.K. So you lot, Now have to dip your hands deeper in your pocket to raise revenue you lost then theUK left .

[@raevj]

UK people should stay away from the EU…the people who pull their strings are looking for ways to implement authoritarian policies…it will come as a “climate emergency” & unless you resist….your sovereignty is eliminated.

[@delyvisana]

I voted against Brexit, but regret doing so. I believed that if we left things would get worse before they got better and no-one was telling us the truth. You have to think in term of decades when it comes to the economy. Ask me again in 2026.

[@jameswhitfield1375]

I have often wondered what the worst aspect of our decision was to leave the EU in 2016. My thoughts at the time centred on the restrictions placed upon our young people to live as their counterparts in mainland Europe now live, becoming multi-lingual and having ease of access to other lifestyles and cultures. I also thought that Johnson's 'sunny uplands' were always a pipe dream. However, our real failing was thinking that we could detach ourselves from Europe and Europe's politics. At a time of international crisis, and the rise of right-wing nationalism, we sit on the fringe of events when we should, together with France and Germany, be shaping the future Europe. One thing is certain, we won't be able to detach ourselves from what happens if Ukraine/Russia escalates. We are a European nation and always shall be.

[@jerometeyssier3171]

I love your comment. Yours faithfully. A froggy european citizen

[@libertasdemocratiam887]

So the worse thing is the fact of paperwork to go and live in Europe? That's it? You've proven the anyways v somewhere argument.

[@borisgulliver4970]

This blind belief that france and Germany should lead is dumb and evil. What have those two done for the good in the last 220 years for europe? Better that sweden holland Ireland Portugal greece poland and Czech lead the way

[@albedo0point39]

Why limit yourself to such a European ghetto mindset? People can still live in the EU if they want, just a few more hoops to jump. There’s a much more exciting world with much more interesting people beyond Europe’s borders. Thank god Brexit breaks out of such a stultifying mindset.

[@TheNemorosa]

Why do you want to shape Europe? Isn't that the business of each individual nation? It's this kind of control-freakery that made us want out in the first place.

[@blazednlovinit]

EU treat us like dirt and took our money for the privilege and we were expected to be submissive to this. When we finally did leave it didn't like being stood up to and increased it's abuse towards us, and apparently now we're questioning ourselves. I hear this from abused and gaslighted women on a daily basis through my work, we don't advise to go back to the abuser.

[@40yearoldvirgil15]

Always someone else's fault 😂 It's not like the EU gave so much funding for poor parts of the UK and their industries 😂

[@barrydaly7174]

I Think it was more like "Self Harming" when we left. It was inevitable all businesses and services would use it as an excuse to raise prices and rob us blind. The only people who stood to gain were people here who already had power over us and wanted more but saw EU regulation as a block. They want a de regulated work force with fewer rights even than we have now. Deregulation in most things only ever benefits the very wealthy in the long run and give the rest of us less agency. Brazil exhibit A.

[@blazednlovinit]

@@40yearoldvirgil15 If I take £15 from you and buy you £10 worth of clothes and keep the remaining £5 for myself.... am I funding your badly needed clothing purchases?

[@impalabeeper]

@@blazednlovinit Sounds like you had an abusive partner and infer that experience to the EU, which is totally different scenario and context, lol. Or maybe, you're the toxic partner who gaslights and thinks you're the main provider when in fact your partner contributes, and thus your share of cost is halved but takes all the credit. Or maybe, you don't have a partner to realise how resource-pooling works. After all, a couple have more income for obvious reasons than a single person. I mean, two people contribute. And before you say it, the EU has contributions. What do you think other EU member states do? Actually, don't answer it: a narcissistic partner would say his partner don't oull the weight.

[@jamesmorgan7699]

its a shame the times cannot get the volume normalized, so quiet

[@htbwhite7721]

What they need to do is boost the centre channel (for speech) and compress the dynamic range then mix down to stereo for upload to youtube.

[@danobrien3601]

Budget cuts due to brexit perhaps ? Its a wonder the lights were on in the interview

[@oldishandwoke-ish1181]

Yes indeed - I had to switch my bluetooth speaker on.

[@dirkdriessen1133]

Iam a foreigner, hearing this guy the first time. Brits are falling for this? That explains alot...

[@nox8730]

The UK is the european USA. In every aspect. All bad, obviously.

[@udomann9271]

Britain might join again the EU? Not with me, stay outside now for ever and be happy with that. Maybe open again a new commonwealth with more colonies?

[@louis-philippearnhem6959]

They thought the EU was a colony for them (England) to exploit!

[@jeremytiernan8511]

We keep hearing these people say that it is obvious that the UK would be better off if we were back in the EU, but I have never heard any of them give any intelligent reasons to support this view. This interview is no exception.

[@hukama6911]

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[@MrPinkStrat]

Theses two Guys Need To Spend a Week in ( Birmingham ,,,a Week in Leicester a week in Bradford a week in Luton & a Week in BATLEY ) ..Then do this Interview again

[@JW-rw8mz]

Don't forget what Cameron told us at the time of the Referendum. The vote was to remain in the socialist authoritarian EU in perpetuity or to leave. Just to remind everyone again. "In perpetuity". Forever! Thank god commonsense prevailed and we are a free nation able to make our own laws without foreign interference and choose politicians we can get rid of every 5 years. We have control to mismanage the country or to make it successful and prosperous

[@Patmofar]

You obviously don't know, going by your comment, but the EU also holds elections for it Parliament every five years. However the difference is that ALL 725 seats in the EU Parliament are electable. In the UK only about 600 of over 2000 seats in British Parliament are electable and those are by an utterly rotten first past the post system. The British would not recognise democracy if it walked up to them and punched them in the face. The EU does not have an unelected Head of State either, one who claims God said he is Head of State. And don't worry, even if Britain came crawling like it did the last time, begging for membership, it would be totally unable to meet the Copenhagen criteria just like Turkey who has been trying for membership for 39 years now.

[@Michael_from_EU_Germany]

And here are the results for the UK: Calculation by Bloomberg: Brexit loss for UK 2022: 100 billion pounds Calculation by Cambridge Econometrics: Brexit loss for UK 2023: 140 billion pounds = in a few years: National bankruptcy in UK

[@suzeel]

ONCE BREXIT; FOREVER BREXIT!!!!!

[@philthompson8574]

They wouldn't want us back

[@Nils.Minimalist]

As a German, I disagree. But you people in the UK need some time for self-reflection before rejoining.

[@JesusSanchez-ij5de]

Spaniard here. I want you back becouse is it our oportunity to retake Gibraltar in the negociations. Only for that. There are 26 more countries, but i don't now whats they will want. Sorry for my bad english. I am spaniard.

[@annewalden3795]

​@@JesusSanchez-ij5deWhy do you want Gibraltar?

[@JesusSanchez-ij5de]

@@annewalden3795 Why British want Gibraltar?. I can ask the same.

[@annewalden3795]

@@JesusSanchez-ij5de The people who live in Gibraltar do not want to be governed by Spain .Do you expect the British government to abandon people who are British and want to remain British? Please remember there is a history of poor behaviour from the Spanish government which is remembered in Gibraltar.

[@traylaitken-cade6112]

We have never fully left the clutches of the EU . I do not want a central group of elites dictating how I can live my life .

[@yogibear6363]

Fine, don't cross any borders and don't do business across borders.

[@ianrkav]

@@yogibear6363 We've been doing that with the other 168 countries in the world who are not in the EU anyway, plus about 17 European countries not in the EU.

[@simonjefferytaylor]

peter... leaving and rejoining will have cost us billions. We should never left and as a leaver its partly your fault

[@bobleitch3610]

Why are you saying this. You're just trying to be clever. Aren't you? The EU are failing. Do you really want the euro? FFS,

[@robertschriek1353]

Luckily the uk can’t vote their way back in.

[@jonathansimmons5353]

Thats fantastic news! Remoanophiles will just have to upstix eu 27

[@alanharper6487]

Peter, I like you cannot forgive myself for having cast my vote in the Brexit referendum I foolishly thought that living in a democratic country, that a majority result would mean that that result would be accepted by the majority of the "political class" and the Civil Service etc. What have I found out ? My vote and several million others has not meant a thing, I am still awaiting for Brexit to be delivered. Given 4 Prime Ministers later I still am waiting, silly, silly me!

[@homertangler9529]

Rupert Murdoch bought the Brexit. If you want to feel silly...feel silly about that.

[@user-John666]

Britain leaving the EU will be seen in retrospect as the finest thing we could have done against the sinister EU. We left and rather than crying about it 8 years later, it’s time these remain weirdos accepted it. Despite your disgusting insults people can and do make up their own minds.

[@Michael_from_EU_Germany]

And here are the results for the UK: Calculation by Bloomberg: Brexit loss for UK 2022: 100 billion pounds Calculation by Cambridge Econometrics: Brexit loss for UK 2023: 140 billion pounds = in a few years: National bankruptcy in UK

[@user-John666]

@@Michael_from_EU_Germany Lol dream on pal. That's just your sad fantasy. The more important question is: what are you going to obsess about when this doesn't happen? Britain will be fine, simply because 99% of people aren't in your crazy bubble and just get on with life. You do have to wonder though, why we had recessions and mass unemployment all while in the EU?

[@ilunghi]

Claiming Starmer will be "dishonest" for something he might do - great argument there mate

[@guyandrew4668]

Hugo, I'd have liked you to have dug deeper on the power of the Israeli lobby. If conservative MPs are afraid of them there's more to it than a fear of being called anti-semitic. The word "money" was mentioned but not discussed. Is the Israeli lobby buying them? How? (cf the US AIPAC) Private lives of MPs are sometimes a tad " unconventional": blackmail?

[@jaks4164]

Yes, money, power, changes blackmailing. Look: londen lobby

[@greghall7887]

Israel. Blackmail. Unconventional private lives. Who went where. Who had a submarine and helicopter licence etc....... Seems to be in the news quite a bit nowadays.

[@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044]

​@@greghall7887Jeffrey Epstein

[@leefoster8015]

Look no further than a certain US president that dared to try and monitor Israel's fledgling nuclear programme which caused an Israeli president to resign. Ghaddafi openly spoke of this. America has been steadfast pro-Israel ever since. The lobby is a vehicle to finance and direct policy, enforcing compliance is Mossad's job.

[@tancreddehauteville764]

Rejoining will be very difficult. The easier path is joining EFTA and the single market (EEA).

[@davidgreen6490]

Its impossible for the UK to join the EU in its current form. The new plans for an EU army alone prevent it. The people on videos like this one are delusional.

[@LoeZack]

Norway will veto it.

[@davidgreen6490]

The UK does not want to join the EFTA or the EEA. If we did we would not have joined CPTPP would we?

[@AChapstickOrange]

EFTA members have already said "no way".

[@rayc9539]

​@AChapstickOrange they said that initially, many years ago because they didn't want the UK to use the EEA as a "waiting room" whilst it transitioned out of the single market. In 2021, a trade deal was created with EFTA states, also. The states agree that the UK will be the dominant force, but they don't seem to have an issue with that anymore. The UK being in the EEA gives the club more bargaining power.

[@georgewaters7667]

Why is it necessary for country to give control of its borders to the EU this i will never understand.

[@Globaldave1970]

And the EU have poor border controls with the rest of the world.

[@anglewoden]

Why do people cry about Brexit, we might have voted for it but it still hasn't been implemented yet. In fact sunak seems to do more for the EU than the UK.

[@BohemianRaichu]

I do understand Peter. I can't forgive you either.

[@davidgreen6490]

I work for one of the biggest companies in the UK, we have already been assured by the government that the UK will not be rejoining the EU in the foreseeable future.

[@laxeystu8096]

How long is the foreseeable future? Who from 'the government' told you this - a politician or civil servant? Circumstances change all the time 10 years ago the post office Horizon system was robust and the prosecutions sound

[@davidgreen6490]

@@laxeystu8096 Lets put it this way, you will not see the UK in the EU again in your lifetime.

[@laxeystu8096]

@davidgreen6490 I got that, but who is in a position to say that? Who from 'the government' says such things? Why 'my lifetime'? 40 years - really? Who was it, or is that a secret? That's not neccesarily what is likely anyway If Starmer pursues the closest relationship with the EU and it proves successful, then there will inevitably be discussion about rejoining in say 10-20 years time, as there should be

[@ironmonger27]

oh yes we will, this govt are toast.

[@zenex1741]

This government will all be out of a job by the end of this year xD Things could start changing for the better next year, when Labour get in.

[@ybkseraph]

You can not creep in the EU… just saying

[@victoriaplum997]

Who on earth would want to, you fool.

[@victoriaplum997]

Who on earth would want to, you fool.

[@victoriaplum997]

Who on earth would want to, you fool.

[@SJG-nr8uj]

No, that's because the creeps are already in it!

[@dal6984]

Yeah, the public will not accept it as per Referendum result. We made our point and we left. Now to move forward without looking back. Still not been 10 years since that vote and the whining remainers are still crying. Drop it ffs you look very weak.

[@khankrum1]

Reverse BREXIT and NO ONE WILL FORGIVE YOU!

[@daveisbrill]

Germany isnt doing so well and France is one expensive long riot after another. What happens to the EU if they start declining?

[@Michael_from_EU_Germany]

Normal in capitalism. Sometimes up, sometimes down.

[@dal6984]

Exactly!! Sooner or later it is going to go down the pan. The EU is a titanic. Why jump back on from the lifeboat we already sitting in.

[@peter65zzfdfh]

One Euro bought 0.77p immediately before the Brexit vote, 0.86p today, clearly they're doing better than the UK. Assume if the EU starts declining the UK will lose it's (still) biggest trading partner so... ouch for the UK then. Ultimately in this connected world it's never good for ANY country when ANY other country declines regardless of being in a union or not, the more trade between them the worse it is for each other. A rising tide lifts all boats.

[@remcovanek2]

What makes him think Britain is allowed to rejoin?

[@paulmessenger9836]

Because they won't are money

[@Richie-j5p]

Superior Queen and country down with Jonny foreigner attitudes that are bred into the 1% elite who run the country as one big estate and the rest of the plebs just roll over and let themselves be walked over by fops and idiots

[@ghostlightx9005]

Or even want to?

[@F-J.]

Because Britain paid a HUGE chunk of money.

[@AChapstickOrange]

@@F-J. Which they've made up for and more just with the trade deals they've inked since you left. That's the problem with you people. You actually STILL think the EU is about nothing but moving small green bits of paper around, and as long as you believe that, you'll be welcome to keep yours to yourself and stay out.

[@joemerican5781]

Sorry Mr Oborne - saying you feel guilty for voting Brexit cuts as much ice as a murderer saying they regret killing their victim. They only regret it because they’ve been caught. Well, you’ve been caught, and we don’t forgive you. We will never forgive you. And we will never forget what you, and those other chancers have done.

[@sosoo000]

Not gonna happen me old china. I remember this Peter Oborne guy on a program about America where he joined some men in shooting real ducks out of the sky. Seems like he still hasn't a clue about the right thing to do.

[@laudermarauder]

A hugely frustrating interview on the Brexit point. The interviewer never pins Oborne down on the key points. What specific elements of the withdrawal agreement does he think are terrible compared with Theresa May's plan? Does he now wish that the UK were committed to ever-closer political union which is the core value and mission of the EU? He laments the "period of chaos" but that was induced by Johnson and Truss, who are now gone. It was inevitable that such a large change to the UK's institutional position would cause short-term disruption in any event, whoever was in charge. And finally, it is not at all clear why anyone should care about this man's opinion, which seems to be no better informed or reasoned than a random punter down at the Dog and Duck.

[@40173k]

Well put.

[@davidknight2104]

It's a shame youtube hides the dislike 👎🏼 button now

[@nickjones9867]

If its anything to go by, I've noticed that likes on a popular video tends be 10% of views, so if it's not hitting that then it's not well received.

[@pomade34]

You can see them back with the plugin "Return dislikes" on your browser

[@BigHenFor]

Sunak, despite his wealth, is a lightweight. The only things he takes seriously is himself and his money.

[@dominiclane8538]

How do you know that ? .do you think flip flop starmer don't.

[@mobsiesixsixsix9785]

@@dominiclane8538 So boring. How about an actual educated position rather than childish whataboutery?

[@clarecrawford9677]

@@dominiclane8538Just look a Sunak’s career in the hedge fund industry and his part in the banking crisis, which made him a millionaire, and compare it with Starmer’s pro bono legal work as a barrister.

[@chatham43]

.....and that's why he entered politics...??

[@mobsiesixsixsix9785]

@@chatham43 ....for his ego. I know you're a troll but you are a weak troll even by youtubes low standards.

[@dale-qz9dg]

I definitely don't want to rejoin

[@heatonhaz]

Agreed, i voted Brexit to make people cry, and its still paying off all these years later.

[@IainFrame]

"London-based mainstream media people hate Brexit" shock 😏

[@johnenglish929]

The EU we left is no longer there to rejoin. Once what the EU is now was revealed in a referendum campaign, it would be singularly unappealing to most voters - especially given the rejoining cost.

[@stewartmackay]

Really? I live in Europe, this is news to me.

[@johnenglish929]

@@stewartmackay Me too. You must be pretty insular !

[@stewartmackay]

@@johnenglish929 Not at all.

[@momeara7482]

Yes, the EU is still there. Whether they would let us rejoin - now that is another matter.

[@zlatkoorlic7563]

The EU just became even more strict than it did in the past. The UK had so many exceptions and still wasn't happy when it was in the EU. The Brits are all whingers and it is everybody else's fault except their own.

[@Zinnit]

I voted to remain but am now very glad we left. I look forward to hearing his rationale (whoever he is).

[@barrydaly7174]

Why?

[@dal6984]

@@barrydaly7174 Well have you seen the state of EU today? Run by unelected dictators.

[@Zinnit]

@@barrydaly7174 I voted to remain mainly because of my concern about corporate gigantism. I thought (naively) that the EU would act as a bulwark against it. The subsequent years have shown me that I was wrong in that corporate/state collusion is as strong in Brussels as it is in Westminster.

[@Zinnit]

@@robo3715 and you sound like a really nice, respectful, open-minded, thoughtful guy. See you next Thursday

[@lesleybonarius2085]

Rejoin EU? No thanks, what Mr Osborne thinks doesn't represent what ordinary people who voted to leave think, and there are plenty of us still.

[@peterallman8474]

Love the idea of UK rejoining the EU, but dream on. Why on earth would they want us back?

[@kizzmiaz]

I agree. I doubt anyone alive today will see us rejoin. The gammons did generational damage in the name of what they saw as patriotism, oh the bitter irony.

[@hawklord100]

why on earth do we want to go back 🤣🤣😆

[@roastntoast7550]

Because we buy German Cars! 😅

[@zurielsss]

If I am the EU, I will make the Brits show some assurance that they won't leave easily again to rejoin 1) Ditch the British pound and join the EURO 2) Change referendum laws for leaving the Brexit to 60% if you wanna leave again 3) UK will also not get any special treatment like their last membership, it will be a junior member to France and Germany who will lead the EU

[@simeonayling9882]

1) Disagree. There is no need to join the Euro and I don't think any country should be forced to do so. 2) I think your second point is fair, and actually I think most of us would want that anyway. In fact, we should put that clause in now and only join when the clamour for doing so becomes unequivocal. Give it 10 more years and hopefully we'll be back. 3) We'll get no special treatment as you rightly point out - we had a great deal and the Tory idiots have wrecked it for good. No way would we become a junior partner though: we're still an important nation and we'd be net contributors.

[@hooligan9794]

This is exactly the kind of arrogance of the EU that constitutes the reason Britain would be insane to rejoin.

[@AChapstickOrange]

@@simeonayling9882 _"1) Disagree. There is no need to join the Euro and I don't think any country should be forced to do so."_ TFB, those are the rules, and you were a member WHEN THEY WERE MADE. You don't like it? STAY OUT. The EU is sick to death of hearing what the British do and don't want, will and won't have. That's NO attitude to come back with, especially when it's the clear signal YOU KNOW YOU WERE WRONG. Say so, show some contrition, and GET WITH THE PROGRAM THIS TIME. Or freeze in the dark. Whichever.

[@Globaldave1970]

Even at the height of EU mania, Blair could not convince the public to join the pound.

[@Globaldave1970]

No chance then. Good.

[@freebornjohn2687]

I can't see the UK rejoining, however we will move closer. Also, if Trump gets into power (50:50 chance) and takes the US out of NATO (which is very likely) we will be in a very different world and the EU's attitude to the UK will dramatically change. Also, we will start to have a new generation of politicians in the UK and the EU who weren't involved in Brexit so will look at it anew.

[@daydays12]

Why should the EU's attititude to such a fickle, unreliable anti European country as the UK change?

[@TheCornish123456]

​@@daydays12only other country with nukes is France. Major arms producer and despite the governments best efforts the most capable military.

[@daydays12]

Are you sure you meant to reply to me?? @@TheCornish123456

[@mobsiesixsixsix9785]

@@TheCornish123456 Erm Belgium, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands have nukes.

[@johnandersen-p7q]

@@mobsiesixsixsix9785 Under American control

[@peteredwards7760]

What Brexit ? Since 2016 paid £Billions to the EU and still under the control of a foreign court. Gorbachev called the EU the successor to the USSR .

[@Michael_from_EU_Germany]

1. the UK no longer pays a membership fee. 2. the UK must fulfil the financial obligations it entered into during its membership. 3. if you want to trade with EU states, you have to fulfil EU requirements. What is your problem with understanding?

[@peteredwards7760]

​@ichbinbluna3504 Paid the corrupt and undemocratic EU ( I'm quoting the British Labour Party from its honest period )12 £Billion in 2020, are we getting value for money ?

[@Michael_from_EU_Germany]

@@peteredwards7760 I don't understand the question, please rephrase.

[@peteredwards7760]

@@Michael_from_EU_Germany Try harder .

[@robertreynolds580]

UK has to change before it can step on to the rejoin road. A heavy dose of poverty will spread the regret. As the stock market is now feeling the pain...minds WILL turn to rejoin. Nothing better than rich people becoming poor, for a rethink to happen.

[@johnbailey8012]

Poor Peter Osborne can't make his mind up... one minute he's labour the next tory, pro brexit anti brexit. Poor tormented soul. Who cares what he thinks.

[@MarkyB1]

There hasn't been a Brexit to reverse ffs, we are still doing what we are told to do by the EU.

[@jojohn8988]

If this man doesn't drink , he should take it up

[@samhartford8677]

I agree with (almost) everything said about Israel and Brexit except this: There is no 'creeping back to the EU'. That is not on offer from the EU side.

[@roastntoast7550]

​@dogglebird4430no cherry picking again! In is in and out is out! This is what UK voted for! 🤗

[@neilog747]

The current political structure in the UK Parliament is based on an opposition model. Such a political model that is centuries old cannot produce people who understand collaborative governance between political parties. Egoists do not understand give and take, but this is what political maturity looks like. Britain needs to modernise its creaking political system.

[@SJG-nr8uj]

Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!

[@bh5037]

@@SJG-nr8uj all this has nothing to do with your unfit to serve ancient voting system ... don't deflect from the message ...Its UK problem - not EUs ... your ancient 17th century voting system and parliament ( unelected lords in the 2nd chamber ??? !! )) which is not providing PR is not longer sufficient for the UK electorate . The people of the UK have a right that not some 50 % of their votes are lost !!! or do you support the loss of these votes ?? plsd to hear

[@stevenknill2179]

​@@SJG-nr8uj A United States of Europe is much better than the ship show we have at moment! It the vision Winston Churchill had after we bankrupted ourselves fighting right wing fascism!

[@solentrambler]

With all its faults, the UK has been a stable, evolving democracy for over 300 years. France is on its fifth Republic since 1792. Reunited Germany just over 30 years old is born of two utterly foul regimes. Italy has had 76 governments in 76 years. EU itself is just over 30-years-old. Thirty-seven countries use variations of Westminster system including Denmark, Ireland, Australia, Japan, Canada & NZ. Come back in 300 years to tell UK about “political maturity”.

[@jonwray4449]

I agree with your thoughts on the attempt to rejoin via the back door if Starmer gets into no 10 - however I really don't think he will succeed I think you underestimate the reaction from the British public if you rip the brexit scab off I also think that the terms that would be offered by the EU would be punitive and would not be accepted by the Electorate - better to stop trying to polish a turd and get on with life outside the EU

[@googleisshittoss]

At last...a sensible comment

[@zaphodbeeblebrox6795]

You entirely ignore the electorate and gouvernments in EU member countries. The sentiment is overwhelmingly that the UK should not be allowed back in after all the trouble they caused for decades, culminating in the Brexit mess. You make it sound as if it was all just the UK’s decision - it’s certainly not.

[@1autocadman]

starmer will reep the whirlwind if he does

[@philgarlic8047]

NO IT WON'T... Definitely not.

[@simonwood1402]

It's up to 27 other countries whether or not the uk can become a member of the EU and it would take just one of those 27 countries to say "On your Bike mate you made your bed you lie in it!" 🇬🇧 💩

[@gw7624]

What a sad little man you are.

[@Tawny6702]

That’s a given, but would probably be overcome by pressure from the major players who do want the UK to return! Of course a lot would depend on the results of another referendum, if it was only a marginal result to rejoin then it wouldn’t exactly fill the member states with the confidence that we were serious about rejoining, and would indeed probably tell us to get lost! If the result to rejoin won in a landslide then I think all members would comply……eventually!

[@davidgreen6490]

Why are you here?

[@victoriaplum997]

Oh dear, dream on europhile.

[@victoriaplum997]

Oh dear, dream on europhile.

[@geoms6263]

Don't be sorry, Brexit was a russian operation successfully

[@denisthomson8153]

Regarding Brexit, I think that the public's priorities are elsewhere and I think this next election will be very much fought on other issues: the economy, NHS, immigration etc. Brexit, I'm sure will be mentioned as it is far from 'done' to quote BJ, but it won't define this election like it did the last two in 2017 and 2019. To be honest, it is very hard to predict what our relationship with the EU will be like and I'm not quite sure what the solution is. Sadly it is probably quite unlikely that a membership application from the UK would be taken seriously by the EU, we were quite a troublesome state when we were in it and I don't think we ever bought into the European ethos fully. However that being said, we shouldn't rule the UK being back in the EU it is just very unlikely, at least anytime in the near future.

[@dineoutdeliveries]

The UK left because of racism, arrogant xenophobia and the "they need us more".... nonsense... lol

[@peter65zzfdfh]

The UK got special treatment when it was last in the EU, English being the language, no need to join the single currency, funding of UK projects with EU funds. Won't happen again. The UK now needs to focus on bandaging up the gaping self-inflicted wounds from Brexit, a generation will have to pass away to get back into the EU.

[@slightlyconfused876]

The problem is that the Brexit role in wrecking the economy impacts all these other issues. Not just with less money being available, but by us kicking out so many necessary workers, just so a bunch of Brexiters could be xenophobic without feeling guilty.

[@denisthomson8153]

⁠@@peter65zzfdfh Yeah totally agree. It’ll take probably decades before we could rejoin the EU.

[@jasonbarnes1541]

@@peter65zzfdfh Haha when the EU has to move periodically from Brussels to Strasbourg do you really think they could agree on a replacement language?

[@c.d.g.9949]

I am not sad that GB has left the EU. It was not exactly the most constructive participant in the EU, on the contrary.

[@annewalden3795]

I have got used to the idea that Brexit was a huge mistake but I am not prepared to grovel to the EU just to rejoin .