Super Aguri: Honda's Toro Rosso

[@PeterBrookF1]

Check out our Super Aguri discussion on the DRS Train Podcast with Aidan Millward: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipeZaKpteKesjLs

[@taylorbreum2720]

Babe wake up, Peter Brook just posted another hour long video about an obscure F1 team

[@DerGeraet205]

I swear, more than half of the 2006 season is just "They were last in qualifying, moved up 1-3 spots from penalties, then managed to jump the Midlands' due to their awful starts, but then wound up in last by the end of the race" Great video though, one of the teams which almost nobody remembers, myself included. Only remember them from all the time playing F1 2006 with Sato and Ide still as drivers

[@CapnFlash48]

I always love when you post these hour long videos about teams I've basically forgotten about. I love delving back into the past and looking at the more obscure teams. Keep up the good content!

[@purwantiallan5089]

Is Hispania Racing Team an obscure F1 team btw?

[@gaborcsizmazia2210]

@@purwantiallan5089 it very much is, they spent 3 years running around at the back, than folded relatively quietly, and did all of this without getting into any mqjor scandal, or creating an iconic moment

[@DRSTrainPodcast]

If you like Peter and his long-form content, do check out our podcast, he's our main host and we've looked at obscure teams of the 70s in our "1976" series! - Nav

[@timyo6288]

I always love when Ur Mom post her hour long videos too.

[@purwantiallan5089]

The Super Aguri SA06 and SA07 undoubtedly are the BEST liveries for Super Aguri. I still remembered a lot about Sato overtaking the GOAT, Fernando Alonso at Montreal 2007.

[@chickenmerchant3719]

Super Aguri, forever my F1 2006 videogame goats 😎

[@IvanIvanov-tn2iw]

The best F1 era and me approaching teenage years. Sunday 14:00 and a grid full of colors. Memories 😏

[@v10mclaren]

The 2007 car with that beautiful livery was always one of my favorites

[@aqua_noodle]

I don't know why the green jaguar and the yellow Jordan are impressed so deeply in my childhood memories. I used to watch races every weekend with my folks on the sofa and sometimes even in the early morning with blankets and snacks. And I loved the crashes. I have no memory if this team but man, they must have made my childhood a lot more exciting seeing how much trouble they caused. Thanks for the Video.

[@danielross5493]

Just what a hungover me needs on a Sunday, this and the snooker 😁

[@purwantiallan5089]

Snooker? Thats really cool, man.😅

[@KirboGP]

Always love your content Peter! Another great video. One thing I did see though, was that at 17:19 it shows Kimi Raikkonen on pole for the 2006 Monaco Grand Prix (and in a Renault), when it was Alonso that took pole. But keep up the good work, I always enjoy your uploads immensely. God bless!

[@lordhenrywotton95]

I have a soft spot for Super Aguri because I like Taku and Ant, they managed to score points despite having no money!

[@purwantiallan5089]

Same. I never forget the Super Aguri's final year as well in 2008 that only lasted several races.

[@paulsontag9233]

“They”? Davidson scored zero points in F1.

[@lordhenrywotton95]

@@paulsontag9233 I was referring to the team, rather than the drivers as individuals. Sorry for causing confusion.

[@bfapple]

@@paulsontag9233Davidson was in points contention in Canada 2007, too. Sadly, that’s not what the records show…

[@adammercer6004]

​@@paulsontag9233 I mean Davidson was running third in 2007 Canadian Grand Prixbbut then a groundhog ran across the road!!! 😅😅😅

[@SaltySeattleCyclist]

46:18 I went to the US Grand Prix the week after the Canadian GP, I made a sign that said "Hey Alonso! Who's your Super Best Friend??" because that's what Speed Channel commentators called the Super Aguri team 😂

[@ChrisHopkinsBass]

I love that Super Aguri livery.

[@ok.-ok.]

These guys could race, yet nowadays Andretti can't enter

[@arthurteo8111]

The best era of Formula One ever.

[@gordon1891]

I really enjoy these history of videos! They're a very nice trip down memory lane with the bonus of being reminded of some of the smaller details & even things i missed . It makes me wonder what would have become of teams like Super Aguri things would have gone their way with Sponsors for example.?

[@matthiascerebri3315]

its a shame that a team that had potential not only took itself down unnecessarily, but even the main mother team Honda (thank God Brawn came out of it with the double diffuser).

[@pepsibottleq]

That second year was something else

[@crystalracing4794]

Under 107% rule Ide would've failed to qualified for Bahrain and Australia

[@Midtable1881]

Seeing this video gets nostalgic thinking about all those have-a-go back-marker teams.

[@L.internet8]

Hi, Peter! Here's a suggestion for a vídeo: Which F1 drivers performed the best in their championship-winning seasons? Only the *race wins* from each season that a driver got the title should be counted. *For example:* 1. Counting a single season Ascari, 1952, had a 75% win rate (6/8 races won). Verstappen, 2023, had a 86.3% win rate (19/22 races won). 2. Counting all the drivers' championship-winning seasons Hamilton had a 50.37% win rate (68/135 races won) in his 7 championship-winning seasons. Schumacher had a 55.08% win rate (65/118 races won) in his 7 championship-winning seasons. Fangio had a 57.14% win rate (20/35 races won; not including Indy 500) in his 5 championship-winning seasons. *Note: It is not of my intent to glorify or depreciate any of the F1 drivers' champions. It's not easy to become one, so each one of them deserves great respect.* These are just examples. Would be nice to see this math be done w/ all F1 world champions!

[@mfduality]

You are something else man ♥️

[@purwantiallan5089]

Simply 10/10.

[@AdamTheMan1993]

In my opinion "Super Aguri" is by far the best name for a F1 team

[@drgachipoggington9387]

I am Dr Gachi Poggington and I love your videos keep up the amazing work I listen to these all the time when I go walking. I was hoping if you could do a video on Niki Lauda cos I think he’s probably the first modern driver in terms of the knowledge and mentality needed for F1

[@Sp4mMe]

Franz-Josef Weigl, the guy who tried to buy the team, later went bankrupt and was jailed for cooking his books. ... ... a rare case of F1 turning down a shady investor.

[@Alex-UM7GTE]

My favorite team in f1 2006 psp and remain to this day,hired by them.

[@alessandrobarcio7614]

Welp, i can't believe that Super Aguri got folded after only 4 races of the year 2008 of formula 1.

[@RadityaPramanaPutra2001]

Their final season in Formula 1® is too, too short.

[@spootnik00]

46:22 I will never forget that moment

[@shonen84]

Great video! I’m happy Honda is doing well today, but they had such a chequered road in F1.

[@1greenMitsi]

SA most remembered for inventing the double diffuser! Shame they didnt survive into 2009

[@jackmonaghan8477]

You forgot to mention that Franck Montagny was later banned from motorsport for taking banned substances.

[@KevinAbillGaming]

17:18 Kimi wasn't in Renault, he was in McLaren-Mercedes.

[@joelapilainen]

It's a mistake, it was Fernando Alonso on pole I'm pretty sure

[@KevinAbillGaming]

@@joelapilainen I'm not sure which qualifying leaderboard is that, is it for Q1 or Q3? 'Cos both Super Aguri drivers back in 2006 are always out in Q1, so I thought the results reflect to Q1 session for comparison to the fastest lap setters.

[@joelapilainen]

​@@KevinAbillGaming I'm pretty sure it's the overall results, so P17-22 is from Q1, P11-16 from Q2 and the top 10 from Q3

[@michaelmaclean6965]

If super Aguri had stayed around long enough for Brawn GP to come about I reckon we'd have the Red Bull/VCARB drama that everyone was talking about in pre season over a decade early. I also wonder if they'd have become a Mercedes B team since I can imagine Suzuki would have wanted a buyer desperately by 2009

[@philthornton1382]

If merc had wanted a 2nd team they owned a big chunk of McLaren they could’ve done that with

[@michaelmaclean6965]

@@philthornton1382 McLaren would never accept B team status

[@Manlikerik8]

​too expensive for a b team@@philthornton1382

[@bg2e]

Super Best Friends!

[@AlxRacing]

If you are interested, I have some interesting info about SAs last season.

[@PeterBrookF1]

Do tell!

[@ataorkunoguz5451]

interested

[@AndyFromBeaverton]

0:16 Who's that little kid standing between Rubens and Jenson? :)

[@AdamTheMan1993]

Anthony Davidson, who was also the test driver in Brawn's 2009 championship winning season

[@tombardsley3081]

Always had a soft spot for this team. Was also nice to be back to 11 teams for a few seasons having originally been introduced to f1 with Grand Prix 4 which had 11 teams.

[@efko2616]

Twin Ring Motegi is now named as Mobility Resort Motegi

[@TheAlmin]

Are you gonna rank every car in the 1980s ? It might be a lot of work but it would be great to see

[@purwantiallan5089]

Or even ranked every car in 1960s and 1970s?

[@TheAlmin]

​@@purwantiallan5089boah that would take ages to do

[@bertram-raven]

Do not forget the first Brawn car was the SA09, not a modified Honda.

[@FelixLotus2506]

With this logic, we can all say that Sauber and Hass are Ferrari's Toro Rossos, same goes for Williams as Mercedes little brother nowadays

[@RadityaPramanaPutra2001]

The Ferrari version of Toro Rosso is Haas, actually.

[@FelixLotus2506]

@@RadityaPramanaPutra2001 Not sure about that,

[@aloelover6012]

​@@FelixLotus2506He's literally right, you ignorant buffon.💀

[@aloelover6012]

​@@FelixLotus2506Bruh, he's literally right, HAAS is basically Ferrari's Toro Rosso. Do your research 💀

[@aloelover6012]

​@@RadityaPramanaPutra2001Pretty much, their 2022 car after some upgrades was basically a carbon copy of Ferrari's 2022 car.

[@destiny4bricks514]

Looks like the opposite approach to american investment in f1 nowdays

[@purwantiallan5089]

American investments in F1 nowadays is much like EA, UBISOFT, and even Bushiroad. ONLY LOVES MONEY!

[@Vixen1525]

I think every type of investments are because they love money.​@@purwantiallan5089

[@ago1ing]

Btw, all because of Takuma Sato. In F1, basically the beta version of Maldonado... Overall, a 2-time Indy 500 winner 😅

[@purwantiallan5089]

Even so, Takuma Sato in 2024 > Hulkenberg, Magnussen, Sargeant and Stroll.

[@racer9637]

And Takuma could have had more wins in IndyCar if he wasn’t stuck at Foyt all the time.

[@gaborcsizmazia2210]

So that DRS train podcast wasnt just completely random huh?

[@thatguyfromcetialphaV]

I always liked Super Aguri, being pretty much Arrows 2.0

[@MooncricketsInc]

2+ hour in-depth documentary about Senna the goat coming this week?

[@filipecoutinho5706]

3:44

[@ShaedowMG]

0:00 start 1:11:50 end

[@marcusmeurich494]

I had to laugh about the fact that Sato & Davidson were the smallest teammates in F1 for a long time. Until De Vries joined Tsunoda at Alpha Tauri 😅

[@AdamTheMan1993]

Probably explained why Super Aguri were quite competitive in 2007, smaller stature means less weight overall

[@DisamerdScroll]

I like how Monteiro is basically the yard stick for them, one of the few portuguese F1 drivers Still sad Da Costa never got the chance

[@RadityaPramanaPutra2001]

Imagine if Antonio Felix Da Costa really got the chance and the Portuguese Grand Prix in Portimão can happening even before (and without waiting) pandemic situation.

[@RadityaPramanaPutra2001]

Until today, i still remember this team! 🏎️🏁🇯🇵 #SuperAguri #Honda #SateliteTeam #BTeam #SisterTeam #2006Nostalgia #2007Nostalgia #2008Nostalgia 28/04/2024 18:38 Or 06:38 PM At My Local Time.

[@yudhabagaskara98]

SA performed better than Honda in 2007 despite they (eventually) finished below Honda

[@LuisVasquez-nu4hu]

Hey babe! Wake up!

[@SpaceHCowboy]

Babe shite is old and washed now. Find something else.

[@Silverstoned-oi4zs]

My goodness, were the 2000s cars so awesome. Small, light, twitchy & agile machines that sounded absolutely sinister! Newer fans NEED to see these cars & just stop watching completely till we get them back. We can do it completely guilt-free with synthetic fuels, so there’s no reason not to. Smaller & lighter cars coupled with the ground-effect aero of today would also make the racing absolutely awesome. And for God’s sake, bring back grooved tyres and refuelling. Watching Grand Prix cars dancing right on the ragged edge was NEVER boring to watch, even in the most uneventful & processional races ever. It’s why people held Monaco in such high regard. You could really SEE and FEEL the speed. If enough people DEMANDED that these featherweight missiles come back, then they’d be back by next year. Formula 1 isn’t some environmentalist Expo ceremony, nor is it a place for car makers to show off some fancy tech no one gives a shit about. It’s a race, period. The only people that F1 should be catering to are the fans. They are the main source of income for the sport and the very reason it is what it is today. And if that weren’t the case & they didn’t need us watching, they wouldn’t pour millions of R&D money into making the cars more raceable. It’s time we ALL spoke up. And as far as car makers go, if they really don’t want V10s back (yes, even Ferrari), then they should leave and do Formula E instead. Give us our sport back. Bring back the REAL Formula One.

[@father_flair]

I agree as far as car size goes. However, I'm pretty sure today's cars could be made smaller without changing anything else. They were 20cm narrower in the beginning of the V6 era, and I'm pretty sure the length was increased all the way back in 2010 when refuelling was banned to make room for the tank. Since engines have gotten more fuel-efficient since then, it should be possible to build a 2000s-sized car with the current formula. However, the weight is mostly determined by the engine and fuel. Personally I feel that it's important for racing cars to be roadcar-relevant, so I wouldn't want to go back to an outmoded engine type. Also I'm one of the few people who prefer today's exhaust sound. Bringing refuelling back could be an option to make cars lighter. It would increase strategy (especially if drivers had to qualify with race fuel), but overtaking on track would probably decrease, so I'm on the fence about it. I wonder how the racing would be with smaller cars at today's weight (and turbo hybrid acceleration). For me the point of any new formula should be to finally get rid of aero outwash. Would it be possible to get similar levels of grip with ground effects only (or maybe with just simple wings without any frills)?

[@RadityaPramanaPutra2001]

What's your opinion about V8, guys? V8 is my favorite and my childhood.

[@alfiesmith4115]

Ferrari driver transfer video please

[@parrotantics2046]

That would need two parts at least, given they're only team on the grid running since inception of Formula 1 World Championship in 1950 (yes, they missed opening round in Silverstone, but sod it)

[@alfiesmith4115]

@@parrotantics2046 I think he can do it in one go maybe

[@zebzub]

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