My 5 Worst Buys! [video 484]

[@jammysingh]

What amazes me more is amount of tools and machine you managed to fit in your small workshop.

[@marklynch8781]

To that comment, I will add....the amount of work Peter does in his shop.

[@norsebavarian1941]

Great video! I have a shop full of tools I don't use. The question I now ask myself is " Do I love this tool or do I just love the idea of using this tool."

[@MWAWoodworks]

That's a great confessional. Occasionally it's good to be the example for others to learn from our pain 🙂

[@essexbarnworkshop8578]

I had wondered what happened to the CNC, was looking forward to another series, as I am seriously contemplating one for small one-off projects like signs etc. Good to know we are not alone in mistaken purchases! My worst was also a table saw, which I gave away and replaced.

[@petermarsh4993]

Dear Peter, it’s unusual for a professional to admit to mistakes as you have done. It just gives me more respect for you. When I’m debating which brand of something to buy I go to a product review site. You often find out surprising facts about a product which better informs your choice. If the model you’re interested in is not reviewed then that is reason enough to leave it alone. Cheers.

[@onemanandhiswood]

Great insight into regretful purchases I’m sure we’ve all made! Most of my worst buys have been via auction sites where I have saved maybe up to 50% off retail but then failed to account for a 2 hour round trip to collect the item, and that they normally don’t perform how they should, hence the seller selling them! I now only (mostly) buy new, and use sites like yours to give me guidance on the pros and cons of kit I’m interested in. Thanks for the informative videos, I’ve learnt a lot from you.

[@ChrisShawCDS]

One of your best videos, Peter. Sharing mistakes is a great way to help others learn. It's less about the product and more about what led you to make the decisions. The last example with the eBay purchase and money burning a hole in your pocket is probably something we can all relate to. So too, the example of buying a product that is perfectly good in its own right, such as the CNC machine, and yet establishing that it isn't a big enough part of your common workflow to warrant the outlay, time spent setting up and space it takes up. Great video. Humility like this is always great to see on a channel like yours. Thank you! 👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! 🙌 Confession's good for the soul; now I feel cleansed enough to go out and buy that Shaper Origin I've had my eye on... 👍 😂

[@themaninthesuitcase]

Many moons ago I bought a triton router and a UKJ router table for it for a specific project. Promptly life threw me a curve ball and so they sat unused for a number of years whilst we moved and children grew. I eventually managed to use the router to build a nice gaming table topper in the initial lockdown. I decided to finally fit the router to the table and discovered the rather expensive plate it came with had a bow to it, around 0.5mm in the middle along the long side. It turned out there was a bad batch/known issue with these plates around when I got it and I just never noticed, had I they would have exchanged it for me. The vendor assures me this will be "fine" but I can't get past knowing its bent, and they no longer sell the 6mm plates only a 10mm which to me is rather telling. I am sure I'll just get on with it one day but somewhat spendy shed ornament how every you cut it. Runner up is a "bargain" evolution mitre saw that I saw on sale in B&Q and had to have. It can't even cut a 2x6 so the first proper job it would have been useful for I ended up with a speed square and a battery circular saw!

[@TheMonkdad]

Thanks so much for your blatant honesty. We all get caught up in excitement or the hype of something but most guys won’t admit it.

[@peterfilcek4588]

I looked at the “fan in a can” too…. Really glad I went for the box style after hearing that. It seemed ideal on paper, but always good to have a real world test to show what something is like!

[@TheLemonadedrinker]

Thank you, Peter. It's always reassuring to realise that many of us have access to more money than sense. I think we get afflicted with a mad kind of heat that forces us to empty our wallets and buy these really unsuitable devices !!

[@neilscrivener5011]

Absolutely loving reading through all these comments!! Very apparent how everyone is different. I wouldn't be without my table saw, but it is a huge 3 metre sliding bed jobby that I got for a steal. My domino joiner however has just sat in the box so far after buying one based on watching too many youtubers! I got the Graco Ultra too based on the "playing at spraying" series and am personally pleased with it so far.

[@keesvanderlinden1313]

Good to see that bad buys are not limited to hobbyist woodworkers only! In the comments it becomes obvious that KZbin vids play a big part in decision making and it doesn’t always turn out to be the best decisions.

[@eegaugh]

I have often marvelled at the way you manage without a table saw. I don't know the Lutz but there *are* others! I look forward to more "post-retirement" videos in 2022.

[@johnhewetson4406]

Could always be worse. I always say "I never learned anything on a good day", lol. At least you have the generosity to share this and help us all to feel a bit better about some of our learning experiences.

[@alexbarger6884]

Great vid, I appreciate the insight. I agree 100% on CNC as it's not right for everyone. I do have one and I keep finding new ways to use it. My worst tool purchase is a mig welder. I thought I would make metal table legs and it still remains new in box after 2 years. 300us was a great deal at the time. I should really sell it, but I can't bring myself to let go.

[@abyshepherd6944]

I sold an old, rubbish, table saw on marketplace. I did an honest and fair description and explained my issues with the saw to the buyer. He was happy as it filled a need he had. As long as you are open your conscience should be clear when selling / giving away. Interesting to hear about the CNC. We are just on the cusp of buying one (getting tax payments out of the way first) as we are looking at doing one off or small runs of items. Another good video Mr M! Thanks.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Aby! For one-offs and small runs a CNC is perfect - it’s just not something I really do, and even the smaller machines like mine take up a chunk of bench space in a small workshop. 👍

[@mozismobile]

Think of it as community service - you buy them so we don't have to. I don't really have any expensive regret tools, just random piles of small ones that seemed like a good idea but I don't end up using them. Worse are the small really useful tools that I have lent or misplaced, and can't find anywhere to replace. The most expensive in that vein is my habit of buying TIG welders, using them for a few years, then selling them because I'm moving and haven't used them for a while. I'm about to buy my third... Oh, and my 285mm circular saw (10"?). Which I included in the project cost when I built a shed out of 75mm coolstore panels, but it's proved impossible to resell. Even the guy who offered $50 failed to turn up and actually buy it.

[@MrDawes]

I love this video. What rare honesty. I have been watching Peter for years and he just gets better. I find the CNC thing exactly the same way. Quite the fad but not that useful for regular guys like me. Thanks, Peter.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! I do the silly things so that you don't have to! 😂 👍

[@thomlipiczky9021]

THanks for the confessional. Go in peace, my son. You are absolved. Good to know I'm not the only one!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

👍

[@WobblycogsUk]

The only one I didn't guess was the table saw (maybe I missed those videos). I'm especially not surprised about the Lamello and the Greco. I was looking for a a spray system about the same time as you and went Fuji in the end because I was concerned about the lifetime of the pump in the Greco. The Lamello is a good looking idea but at the price it would have to be absolutely perfect in every way and it wasn't clear it was. I think you summed up the issue with CNC perfectly and the same arguments hold for 3D printers. I certainly wouldn't invest any time in that table saw, the design is fundamentally wrong and there's nothing you can do about that. Just list it honestly with the limitations it has and let the buyer decide if it's worth it.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! Yeah, though I may just pull the motor out if the saw and dump the rest! 🤷‍♂️👍

[@fred_fred]

@@10MinuteWorkshop Just because it doesn't suit your needs doesn't mean that another person won't find use in it... They may want something relatively lightweight with a sliding table and the direct drive motor doesn't effect them in terms of precision/noise/accuracy etc...

[@jigsey.]

@@fred_fred Peter is only giving his thoughts on the products, he's says throughout the video...

[@fred_fred]

@@jigsey. oh yea.. totally get and understand that... Just meant that when he talked about not feeling like it was something he'd feel comfortable selling on to someone else, it might be a saw that suited someone else's needs

[@amconsole]

Agree completely except with the 3D printer part. It has been way more useful in the shop than I ever imagined it would be. Up there with my Domino. I've found so many unexpected use cases for it - vacuum hose adapters for all the tools that don't directly fit the Festool vac, dust extractor parts, flanges, all sorts of special hooks and brackets to hang tools on the wall, replacement parts for my tools (such as broken triggers and even bits of housing, gears, sprockets, motor flange adapter plates) fixtures and fittings for lights, all sorts of workholding adapters for MFT holes, shallow depth hinge spacers. And I'm relatively new to Fusion. There are people out there that have more skill and print router tables for palm routers and, complex dovetail of fingerjoint jigs, not counting all the 3D printed marking and spacing cotraptions Peter himself uses. By now I can't imagine not having a 3D printer for sop projects. I do however agree with the CNC router part - it is a way more limited tool than a 3D printer, loud as hell, slow and makes so much dust even with a dust extractor. Even if You're good with CAD software, the price, space it takes up and how rarely it's needed - makes more sense to send the drawings to a shop that has a large and more robust and precise CNC machine and have them route the parts.

[@bobsnow1996]

Oh... Peter haven't we all made terrible buys... but, we tell ourselves it looked so good and it looked like the answer to all our wood working dreams. I still think you're on the up side I could have done a video... "Oh crap why did I buy these 10 dumb tools!" Got up early this morning and watched several Track Saw videos... your tip on the Strawbyte jig... just brilliant! Keep up the good work!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! 👍

[@andyjames8612]

I bought the Graco Ultra after seeing your videos, didn’t need the Ultramax as I only use water based paint. I used various paints, Dulux, Tikkurila, Benjamin Moore and it was ok, then the pump went and I got it replaced under warranty. The pump went again after about a year so I bought a new pump and replaced it myself which took about 30 seconds and I started using Sayerlack paint and nothing else. What a difference using that paint has made! Great, flawless finish, it’s almost if my Graco loves it. Yeah the pump will go again and it’ll cost me £170 for a new one but it pays for itself. I treat my Graco pretty badly now, I leave it with paint sitting in it for days on end and clean it out when I feel like it but it doesn’t seem to affect its performance. It seems all the cleaning, flushing it through with water, wrapping it in cotton wool after every use wasn’t good for it. Treat it mean, keep it keen…

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Interesting, thanks! Never used sayerlack, but Alastair Johnson does at over at freebird and he rates it highly. Good to know it makes the Graco happy too! 👍👍

[@andyjames8612]

@@10MinuteWorkshop yeah it was Alastair that recommended Sayerlack to me 👍🏻

[@warrensmith2902]

Can't win them all. Thanks for your honesty. I to don't have enough volume to have a CNC or a 3D printers. I farm those out when needed.

[@davey820051]

As a long-time viewer, I KNEW the table saw would top your list😄. My experience with the Graco sprayer has been similar to yours. It's totally unreliable, which, in my opinion, is the cardinal sin for a tool (or employee). Thanks for all you do!

[@derekhawley9660]

Another great video Peter. Very entertaining and educational. Enthusiasm does get the better of us sometimes. I was dead keen to get a table saw (after watching all the chaps in the US cutting everything on one). I'm sure someone has used one to cut their birthday cake. But after watching your videos, I am happy with my track saw and I think my fingers are happy with my choice. I really like your considered humour ... this time 'more table than saw'.

[@nathanlucas6465]

My worst buy was an evolution fury table saw. As you raise and lower the blade, it goes in and out of square with the fence by several degrees. For 200 quid I wasn't expecting too much quality, but I at least thought raising and lowering the blade would be within its ability

[@adrianlw2750]

@Nathan Lucas - interested in your comments upon Evolution Fury table saw. Built to a price, but it was indeed the price (£162 in 2016) that got me into a table saw frame of mind for my diy and hobbyist interests. Mine does not suffer the alignment issue you have experienced, although the fence precision and adjustment is only just adequate. For me, this table saw has been a great enabler and I have tackled many projects that I probably would not otherwise have been interested in doing (using my circular saw). Nonetheless, I would like a better one, but it has to be portable.

[@nathanlucas6465]

@@adrianlw2750 have you got any ideas how to stop the blade twisting side to side? If I could sort that it would be perfectly adequate for most stuff I do with it. Anything that I need super precision for, I've got a cast iron bodied saw now too

[@adrianlw2750]

@@nathanlucas6465 I have had a look at mine, and delved underneath, following your request…. It is all a pretty solidly constructed/engineered machine, and when everything is tightened as it should be, there is no free-play in my blade in any direction (slight normal blade flexing apart). You may have done various checks already (apologies if you have!) but for good measure… With machine unplugged from mains, can I suggest four elements: 1. The green tilt-locking knob (fig.26 on page 20 of my manual) must be fully tightened. Check it hasn’t worked loose. Whilst “0” should be blade vertical, actual vertical should be checked after other checks below have been done. 2. Remove blade guard, remove the green table access plate (one screw), raise blade to highest setting, and check tightness/locking of the blade on its shaft. It should be rock-solid. Replace removed parts. 3. There are four Allen bolts, two at each end of the access plate, on the table top. Make sure these are fully secure/tightened with suitable Allen key. These secure the top pivoting point of the whole motor/blade mechanism. Again, should be rock-solid. 4. There are four further Allen bolts on table top, nearer the edges. Check for tightness, as if these are loose, the motor mechanism could unintentionally move and throw out blade alignment. I hope this helps - and apologies again if you’ve already carried out these checks. I cannot see anything else that could be giving you the problem you have.

[@aledjones84]

really interesting video Peter! one of my worst purchases was the old festool combination bevel for the rails. Whatever I did with it I couldn't get it accurate enough at any angle. Ended up buying a rail square from FC Tools in Scotland and that was a game changer! I believe festool have recently made a new angle stop, so clearly they didn't think the old one was much good either!

[@fraser7744]

I also bought one of these on the strength of being a Festool. Could never understand how such a poor design could get past the product planners and testers at the company.

[@uwattie]

I'm wondering if the table saw is still surplus to your workflow, maybe you could consider donating it to the Men in Sheds charity workshops. I'm sure that might be a least painful and rewarding way out! Just a thought. 🤔👍😀

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Long gone, and unfortunately Men’s Sheds don’t really have a presence in London. 🤷‍♂️👍

[@LonghornWorkshop]

Wow there are some expensive tools on that list. Glad I am not the only one living with bad purchases. My worst one was a scroll saw, was not expensive but still hardly ever use it and just occupies space.

[@scroungasworkshop4663]

Mine too but it was given to me so I will probably give it to someone else so it can sit on their bench not being used. 😂😂

[@LukePighetti]

I'm a big CNC guy. Built a handful of them for a small business I used to run. Happy to do drawings before projects. That said, they aren't for everyone and I no longer have one in my shop. They are good for multiples, complex surfaces, tight tolerances, or planing slabs. The Shaper Origin really interests me, and might interest you, because you can have a portable router with infinite complex templates built into it for pocketing hardware, dowel holes, bowties, etc etc.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yes! Very interested in the shaper origin; just wish it didn’t cost so much! 😬

[@kevinwood9993]

I liked it too, till i saw the price, plus it is only 2D, which is pretty obvious I know. The Trend looks stunning, but the cost is ridiculous.

[@neilgillies6943]

@@10MinuteWorkshop You're damned right there, I've been a fan of the Origin since it's inception many years ago - an eye-watering 3 grand now - just not worth it ! And my worst tool, a Clarke biscuit jointer - used for three biscuits and couldn't even punt it on Gumtree, I'll add it to your pyre with the tablesaw LOL 😁😁😁

[@neilscrivener5011]

I've got a shaper origin and it does things nothing else can in my workshop, but not regularly enough to warrant the cost for me so I'll be selling it soon!

[@LukePighetti]

@@neilscrivener5011 what sorts of things does it do well? in which areas did it disappoint?

[@Tyler1169]

hey Peter! Give the Fuji Q5 HVLP Turbine a look over, I'm a Cabinet Maker out of canada and I've been very happy with the results of the finish and quality of the unit. I would say the graco handheld units are more of a hobbyist tool hence the attractive price point, where the Q5 is more of a serious bit of kit. when used with 3m's pps2 system it's honestly rock solid and painless to use. Be a bit more open to spray finishing and don't let poor quality tool sour your taste to the possibilities spraying offers!

[@philwebb8049]

"I'm tempted to take it outside and set alight to it!" That's brilliant 😉😆

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Well, it will be for a short period while the aluminium goes up! 😂 🔥

[@joutilas]

I bought a large batch of powertools from a bankruptcy auction of a construction company. Quality tools, but they hadn't been used kindly. I spent many days cleaning them up and going through all the missing parts and accessories. I like to keep my tools clean and in good shape, so eventually ended up just replacing most of them with new tools.

[@sebastiana.481]

Hi Peter, thanks for your honest review on the zeta after you had it a bit. Some years ago there was a huge wave here on youtube about the zeta which made it tempting of course. Today I actually never see it used again by the initial reviewers in their projects which to me looks more like it had been a lamello-birthday-marketing run to promote it. I also use a zeta but I more rely on the clamex and find the newer clamex flexus a very nice addition apart from the divario ( i never used). That said, I am not a professional user but it really helped me a few times to fix wobbly furniture with fixed shelf levels or so to stiffen it up a bit. For knock down furniture it is nice, but from a more allround approach I'd opt for a domino as it is more versatile in most cases due to the size of the connectors. I also more use the tenso as a prefixture so that it is less cumbersome to set clamps which is also nice, but of course not what marketing tells you ;-)

[@3vil3lvis]

👍 Only when you have overcome the disappointment and embarrassment of failing can you see past your ego and teach others to learn from your mistakes. Well done.

[@martinlouden9005]

We've all been there Peter, and no doubt will be again in the future. But its all part of the huge learning curve we call life!

[@philiprandall1399]

My worst buy is not a bad tool but it has sat around in my garage since new after being used once in three years of ownership. It is a Festool Domino, and it was used to install 6 dominoes in its first week and has stayed in the box ever since. I only bought it because I binge-watched an almost endless stream of videos on KZbin where this guy called Peter made fantastic bits of furniture and cabinets and other stuff with one, and so I persuaded myself that my life was incomplete without one of my own...

[@PSD9763]

I'll happily take it off your hands... really fancy one but could never justify the price. Though maybe that's me falling into your same trap, having watched endless youtube videos of people using them.

[@irenebrowning]

I didn't use mine for the first several years either. Now I use it all the time. I just had to get comfortable with it. Don't sell it yet.

[@philiprandall1399]

@@PSD9763 Thanks for the offer, Paul. But, as ​ Aye Captain suggests, I am going to hang onto it in the hope that one day the Domino and I hit it off and we start making beautiful furniture together!

[@fugenfuller-rp1fu]

In general I am in the same situation but I could resist so far. Now I regularly have this dream of my 89 year old me finally buys the festool domino to do his last woodworking project and than asks himself why he hasn't bought it at the age of 39.

[@jamesbailey3131]

I also purchased a Festool Domino based almost entirly from watching Peters videos - I got mine second hand after Peter made the very valid point that second hand prices of Dominos means I could buy one, use it for a year or so and then sell it for the same price I paid for it. That was the plan, however now, 2 plus years later you would need to prize it out of my cold dead hand before I ever sold it. I have made loads of cabinets and draws for my workshop and more recently for my home using 18mm sheet material and the Domino makes life so easy and acurate. I have only ever used the one cutter in it and so far only ever used 5 x 30 Dominos but I've used 100's of them over the past 2 years.

[@aquaticendeavours]

Those Graco Handhelds are notorious for the pump failing. Big issue is it operated as a airless but the pump internals are some sort of plastic. I had 3 painting colleagues who cursed the thing. I bought a HVLP turbine and spray gun instead. Never let me down yet

[@WalkingEng]

Brilliant Honesty on what worked and what hasn't. I try to judge all my tools on the basis of general usage levels across projects. I love my table saw, router, planer, jointer. The Festool domino is good, but I don't use it much and every time I do, I have to re-learn or I make some stupid mistakes, so its really a useful tool but quite frustrating. My CNC is similar, in that it takes a lot of design and other work to get it to produce things and they are never quite good enough or take 3 prototype versions before I'm ready to make the final piece. In general I try to keep to simple 2D stuff on the CNC.

[@graememckay561]

That graco is renown for problems. Have a look at one of the "hopper" spray units, so much better!

[@jameshalleron7484]

It's nice that you fussed up to your bad buys. Most guys just leave them on a shelf buried under scraps of wood and sawdust. We have always been taught in the States that European tools are always the best which is why I'm a Bosch Man but online tool sales has allowed bad tools to make it to the general population of idiots like me who want it no matter what the cost or how much room it takes up. Thank you.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks James! Doctors bury their mistakes and architects plant ivy; woodworkers have them in the corner of the workshop, getting in the way, and taunting us all the time! 😂👍

[@buddythompson5284]

Hah! It's ironic that it was your "Playing with Spraying" videos that convinced me to by the Graco Ultramax! I've had mine for about a year now and I only use it occasionally and for small jobs. So far it's worked well for me and I'm happy with it.

[@StableNomad]

I felt that when you talked about the depth of cut on that tablesaw. Not to mention that it fails as a functional tool.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I mentioned the shonky aluminium top, the weird semi-sliding table, the terrible fence. Throw in the lousy depth of cut due to the direct-drive blade, and what else is there to say? The induction motor is nice and quiet - but then it should be! 🤷‍♂️

[@StableNomad]

@@10MinuteWorkshop I hope it was clear that I meant that I felt your pain. What a useless excuse for a table saw.

[@rafaelblancoNET]

It is a good idea cutting by using the jigsaw a few milimeters fron the scribe line and with a fee degrees of inclination, this will help you to fit the infill as close as posibles to the wall bay using the rasp.

[@elmirmesic2177]

yep, sold my Lamello as well after about a year. Even with having both Domino's, still rely on conventional and pocket hole screws, and traditional joinery.

[@paulmatthews8708]

Graco Ultra. My experience too, rubbish after the first 5 minutes. (First one replaced under warranty, second one patchy at best.) If I need to spray I use my Graco 390PC, it just works. The Ultra just sits on the shelf...

[@BigTrainBuff]

Peter, I have to agree with you on these. For instance CNC machines. If they are at all useful in a typical woodworking shop then size matters. The bigger the better, but the price goes up astronomically with size. Unless you have a monster sized shop they take up valuable space that more appropriate tools could use.

[@DavidSmith-qc5fq]

I agree with you about the Lamello P2. Bought one to quicken the building of a number of cabinets. Just could not get on with it. In the end used the trusty dominos

[@fugenfuller-rp1fu]

I also bought a table saw 1,5 years ago in a rush because it was a good deal on Ebay. The saw is actually good but the dust collection is so bad that I never use it. It is a good example what can happen when things fit to 90% but the missing 10% are actually very important. Thanks for the video!

[@ian1352]

I realise that sprayer is small and portable, but a modest compressor and decent spray gun is still quite easy to move around and will be very reliable.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

The Graco was bought for a specific job where a compressor and gun wasn’t an option. 👍

[@ruinunes8251]

@@10MinuteWorkshop now I’m curious, why a compressor and a gun wouldn’t be an option? You had to carry it somewhere with many steps and no lift?

[@mahmut123456]

reg. Graco: for small workshops like yours and for cabinetry I would go with something with less overspray. Maybe an HVLP or an XVLP by Wagner...

[@ThekiBoran]

I have the graco ultra cordless. It's been fantastic.

[@ianpearse4480]

Happy New Year. Not sure this counts as a tool, I bought a car on a Saturday, which blew up on the Wednesday. £2000 up the creek. Oh the joys of youth. I am glad to say that my wood working tools so far have only wasted about £10 on a small spoke shave that I just can't get on with.

[@t190uk]

Great honest video, I think we all have tools which we regret buying but continue to keep them to justify our mistakes to ourselves or something. You've made me rethink some of the equipment I currently have in the garage...time to make some space and sell them.

[@alfeight6078]

Hi Peter, I'm with you on the Tenso connectors and only use them on specific joints. For me the Lamello Zeta turns into one of the best purchases I've made as soon as there's a few angled carcasses to knock out (using Clamex connectors). The huge amount of time saved in avoiding awkward clamp ups soon made me view the hefty price tag of the tool in a different light. The newer Flexus connectors have also helped out massively. Perhaps the worst thing about the Zeta is when you have to buy new stock of the connectors. Even though you try to price them into a job, the initial forking out is painful and you can't help but think you're being had over! Excellent video as usual. Cheers!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! Yes, huge fan of the Clamex, especially on bevels, as you say - but yes, re-sticking is a painful experience! 👍

[@Robswoodworkingdiy]

Now that’s a video I would like to see Peter. How to improve a table Saw. I have the triton work station with table saw module but I’d love to see what you could do with your saw. I at one stage had the Aldi saw with Jon heise fence plans and was impressed but it gave up here’s the triton. Please let’s see what you can do with your

[@robgullen]

Very impressed with one-man install of the Record air filter! I built a sort of cradle to house mine up next to the ceiling and had to get my wife to help me lift it into position. As for table saws - I had a fairly modest machine but have sold it and now just rely on the track and band saws - works for me with what I do.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Rob! Yes, tracksaws do most of what I need, and always have done.👍

[@DW-ph2xg]

Yes Peter, we all make similar mistakes. The positive thing about it is, we are smarter for having done it.

[@andrewhill384]

Don't feel bad about things you shouldn't have bought your not alone.I have a few locked away in Pandora's cupboard in the corner of the garage. It fills me with dread when ever I go near it, when asked iam reluctant to explain what's inside.

[@artfulcodger]

3 for me; I have the Domino 500, and just love it. On a whim I bought the 700XL, ‘because I wanted it’ along with a load of accessories. 9 months later, having literally not used it even once.. I sold it to a very happy guy making gates, and lost about £300 or so in the process. (You’ll have to pry the 500 from my cold dead hands.) The other was at a similar point (I had some ££) I decided like you to look at spraying - bought a top flight Graco HVLP pro comp with pressure pot, and also the Graco Gx21 airless with hopper and extensions.. HVLP went straight into use, and is just superb, awesome results, easy to clean and being the big powerful one is surprisingly quick at larger areas without mess, as well as the smaller stuff. The Airless though, is about to be advertised for sale, literally unused, was a mad purchase, ideal for a decorator in empty homes but not for me. Lastly, the Mafell tracksaw that blew my mind, wonderful machine, love it to bits - decided to buy a cordless variant, just as a fabulous deal came up on the new cordless Festool so bought that - the Mafell hasn’t been used once since, despite being kept for indoor use I still reach for the festool every time. Also going to be up for sale!

[@ruaridhwatson2630]

Ha ha Snap mine was also a table saw and same eBay auction scenario. Axminster TS250 PHD required for alignment, T-Slot rails incompatible with any available accessories, table insert and slot / fence/ mitre adjustment and Dust extraction are awful. A bit like my first car it has definitely given me a list of things I must check on my next table saw Before purchase 🤣

[@fred463]

We all buy something that in the end turns out to be a bit of rubbish. I read the reviews on tools and this can help but it is not foolproof. I bought a biscuit joiner that cuts slots at an angle that turns out to be the opposite angle for the joining piece. It is completely useless. I can't in good conscience sell it to anyone, so it has turned out to be a live and learn. I think about welding it up and squaring it up but it is really not worth the trouble.

[@EricJacobson1990]

Man, i would be super bummed out by that table saw too, that sucks!

[@Hawthorn-nz]

I bought a 'workshop' fan on an auction site. I thought it would fit in the back wall of a garden shed and I could convert it into a spray booth. I won the auction and travelled half-way across New Zealand to collect it, ('across' it's not too far). The bloody thing was 800mm in diameter, all steel shroud - weighed about 70Kg and was rated at 11000Cfm. (Yes, eleven thousand!). After a great struggle involving 2 of us we finally got it in the shed but lying on it's side. A year later and it hasn't moved - it's now covered in seed trays, leaf rakes and plastic pots.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

😂 Classic! Eleven thousand CFM! There’s be nothing left in the workshop - it’s all be outside, shredded! 🙌👍

[@antoniskokodis8169]

Hi I have 2 10 inch Bosch table saw they run nicely and also have dewalt 54v portable table saw to take with me at work and is the best saw...so accurate

[@grumpfcatarso2453]

Surely one of your most serious videos ever😉. Nobody is perfect. But buying some junk tools is not a problem. Allways buying junk tools without learning curve - that is a real problem. My first Lidl table saw was junk for some Euros just to learn what is junk - so it was worth every Euro (although it does the job for the first minor projects). Followed by an Mafell Erika from the 80's for 50(!) Euros, fantastic. It's my darling since 15 years, accurate and sexy. Not speaking from my Felder BF 6-31 which is another world of luckiness and value...

[@stewartfrye]

I almost would agree with you about CNC, until I began using V-Carve, it saved my cnc shop, and I couldn't be happier now. The Saw, set it on fire,,,satisfaction is worth it

[@geoffreygriffiths1487]

I started with an Earlex Paint sprayer, which is nothing more than a vacuum cleaner in reverse, then upgraded to a Fuji sprayer. Both systems are excellent. I still use the Earlex at my cabin from time to time and get great results. I have used airless sprayers before and they can be a huge pain in the ass when they don't work well. The problem is that the paint is under very high pressure which is hard on all the parts, so they would just fail more often.

[@leanwoodworks]

Just chiming in a update from America.. bought a Makita saw Monday it was jacked up main post in back was bent.. Had to return it and couldn’t get an exchange.. bought a ridgid brand.. can get it to cut square at all.. fence has som wierd Allen size I don’t have.. though it might have been 5.5 mil but no luck.. This channel spoiled me by teaching me better work methods.. and now I realize how junky many products truly are..

[@georgiemae11]

Great video Pete.For me , if a purchase goes wrong it makes me think "why do i bother". Very disconcerting when they dont live up to expectation. Especially if its a job for someone { i hate impulse buys }

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Steve! 👍

[@Pavement-Prophets]

I feel the pain at 1minute 48seconds. Reminds me of oversized IKEA wardrobes, only ever stable when located flush to a solid wall. At least I know what toys NOT to buy.

[@edgar9651]

Thanks Peter. I saw your CNC video some time ago and I also thought about getting one. I have to admit my main reason to think about buying one is that these things seem to be cool and fun to play around with - not that I really need one. I guess after this video I will think one more time... Happy New Year 2022!

[@rogerg34]

I'm in Portugal and could do with a crappy table saw for cutting firewood. So just pop it in the post box. Thank you!

[@parveshussain4005]

Hi Peter just like to add i know how you feel when you talk about the PayPal money not being real & the overwhelming auction when you seem to think you found a great price on a item & to wait for the item to arrive & after all the setup to find you purchased a dull item & especially when you have spent so much & due to size will cost you the same amount sending back will leave you being much aware next time. So my point is we all be there mate so don't put yourself down buddy look at it as more of an experience in buying rubbish tools...

[@colinwilson7524]

Great video Peter and nice to see pros making terrible tool purchases. I bought a table saw (actually my wife bought me one for christmas) few years ago as I really wanted one. However I have no place for it to go and no actual workshop as all my woodwork is done outside when it is not raining. I currently have it stored in a very lind neighbours garage and used it... litterally once!

[@pataulson]

Super fun ... enjoyed your honesty. Really laughed out loud. Be well.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! You too! 👍

[@afbigfish1]

I lovemy Graco cordless. Its a little heavy on the wrist fully loaded but it works like a champ on trim and doors. I would NEVER use it for a full room thats just crazy talk. I do clean it and keep pump armor in it when not in use. Graco really should have included a cap to plug the port I had to 3d print one so the pump armor would not leak out

[@Cradley684]

Sorry Pete xxxx happens we have all been there mate, Stay Safe Mate !!!.

[@craigpeel5995]

Your face was a picture talking about the Lutz 😂😂 we’ve all been there mate👍

[@simplerefinedliving9285]

Great video. About time some more youtube I know everything admit to getting stuff wrong like the rest of us. I have a small shop with adequate tools to get me started but on my list would have to be the Evolution double mitre saw and triton track saw. Track saw cut 5mm off square out of the box and after adjustment still cuts a trench!! Evolution just doesn't have enough power. Awful machine.

[@WinoSnip]

Thanks Peter - very interesting to hear this story! It does make me look into the mental mirror, asking myself what I should admit to be tools that I should regret… Am I hiding for embarrassment? The cheapies that did never work as they should are the easy ones. But what makes this video interesting is that it is not about the cheap ones but expensive ones. I fear I have some of those as well… I have, for instance, used my Lamello Zeta P2 for some other applications as well, where I was actually quite pleased. But with the Tenso… My attempt is and has been that I am still in the learning curve… so when I need something done I postpone the learning and use something which I am more certain about. Can you imagine my reaction when you started off with the Lamello Zeta P2? Caught completely unexpected in a rather awkward situation? Or shall I maintain my rocking-my-self-to-sleep thought of the learning curve? Ai Ai Ai.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Wino! Weirdly, I find I can forgive cheap tools more readily when they disappoint, because there’s so much less invested in them, whereas expensive tools that disappoint really hurt - especially given how much more I’ve agonised over making the purchase! I think the Lamello is a great machine, and the Clamex are excellent, but the Tenso have never worked well for me, and they were my deciding factor in getting the Zeta. So, disappointing on lots of levels - being out of step with ‘everyone else’ who says they’re great, feeling like it must be me that’s doing it wrong, etc..etc.. After a couple of years and many boxes of Tenso connectors, I’m pretty happy with my opinions on it, and pretty sure it’s not me! 😂👍👍

[@WinoSnip]

@@10MinuteWorkshop thank you for your reply, nice to read. I bought the Zeta for another reason - for the Divario P first of all - for adding large (deep, wide) shelves to an existing cabinet, long story, where this was the solution which was needed. It worked fine (apart from the cabinet appearing to be just a little narrower in the front than at the rear… 😕). An d for the Clamex - for design book shelves by my daughters design, which had to be demountable. That worked quite fine as well. So then I tested the Tenso… well, those tests have not been finished as I wrote… 🙃

[@bigboper111]

i felt the same about my zeta bought a standard blade now use it as a regular biscuit jointer

[@rogercresswell1720]

Re the table saw I know the feeling. I bought one boxed up & site unseen so asked to see a display model of it. The dealer said that this was the only one they had as they are not dealing with this company anymore!! For some reason I bought it anyway . It took forever to assemble & has more nuts & bolts to put it together than the Forth bridge. I hate the bloody thing!

[@Muis83]

For someone new to woodworking as a hobby that tablesaw will be great. Fitted with a new multiplex top and diy ripfence it will take years before they grow above it’s possibilities… would switch that lutz any time with my kinzo… the other tools would be awesome to own, but probably would almost never use them, just like you.

[@glennryzebol4472]

Hey Peter, if you want to replace that table saw, i strongly suggest a Sawstop. It is expensive but you certainly will not regret it. Fantastically well built machines

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! Pretty sure they aren't available here in the UK - or even if they even make a 240v version? Shame, looks like a great saw. 👍

[@bobhinden7813]

I really like this video. We all make purchase mistakes, nice to see your experiences.

[@Cameron2874]

Really great vid. Have been a subscriber since the beginning. Surprised by some of them but as usual you explain thoroughly which leaves no doubt as to why. Anybody that watches you could never seriously doubt you did not go through all possible solutions to get your Ferrari biscuit cutter connectors working correctly, way when the rest of us would have lost patience long ago.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you! 🙌👍

[@daviemaclean61]

I have a tool box dedicated to "little used" tools, ie I don't need them cluttering up my other tool boxes. But they are all relatively small and cheap compared to yours! I just got rid of a cheap small table saw which a friend now has to chop up wood for his wood burner - yes, it was that inaccurate!

[@dwp1970]

Thanks for the video Peter. I did get a corded version of the Graco after watching your videos and it has worked okay for me but it is a bit of a hassle to keep it going and I still seem to use way too much paint. I worked in a scene shop for a school / performance conservatory, the shop decided that we needed CNC that could handle full 4' x 8' size sheet goods. I am sure it worked well for someone but after sending a staff member 500 miles away for a week of training ( who was already very proficient in AutoCAD ) , building a specific room with loads of acoustic insulation, re working the entire layout of the shop it sat for a year almost never running due to issues with software and hardware. Minding you that the build time for shows were less than 6 weeks and performances were almost always 3 evenings. A favorite picture I took is of a carp hand sawing a length of lumber and having to use the CNC bed as a work table because we had no free space left the shop. What a waste of money for the position the CNC was being asked to fill. Keep up the great work.

[@peterfilcek4588]

I’d put my table saw on my list too, not because it’s a bad saw but it’s just not a tool I use a lot. I already had a circular saw and so convinced myself that a track saw was too similar to justify. These days I haven’t done anything on the table saw I couldn’t have done with a track saw, and I have to edge around the bulky machine every time I go into the workshop.

[@scroungasworkshop4663]

Same here Peter. Once I got a Festool track saw I stopped using my table saw and I was always walking around it. It ended up with so much junk on it that when I did want to use it I couldn’t be bothered clearing it off so I would find another way to cut what I wanted. Beautiful saw, all cast iron top, belt drive but I sold it in the end. The track saw and compound mitre saw do 99% of what I need. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺

[@MJ-nb1qn]

I saw take that “table saw” outside and introduce it to thermite! I scrap, in pieces, any tool I feel is not worthy. I don’t want some else getting in trouble with it! Thanks

[@Spider2029]

I got the anniversary Zeta P2, and I love it. I use it mostly for Clamex since they're almost invisible (especially if you choose carefully the location) or for standard biscuits. I never used the Tenso connectors, because to me they seem good to replace a nailer (like to hold in place cabinet profiles, for example) but currently I do not need them. Also a nailer in the long run will probably be way cheaper and more reliable. My worst buys so far have been: - a Trend pocket hole jig, with all the bells and whistles. It literally saw no use up to day (got it almost 3 years ago). Again, having some extra money generally lead to bad purchases 😅; - a dowelling jig, fantastic piece of kit which costed me 70€ or something like that. At the time, I still had to figure out I was a "biscuits man" and tried to go with something nicer than nails and screws. I probably used that 3-4 times, just to figure out that, as Mike Pekovich says, dowels are great at "slightly misalign your work pieces". I still have mixed feeling about my Precisio CS50: it's a great tool, but more often than not I reach my TS55 instead. That's on me tho, because I probably had the wrong expectation when I bought it. I was hoping to have a small panel saw replacement, but in reality the sliding table is only for relatively small pieces. It's great to do small cabinet doors and drawers, so I guess even if I got it for the wrong reason, I was able to find a usage for it. Still not sure if it was worth the money tho. Best!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yes, my Zeta is the anniversary model, and totally agree with you about Clamex - great connectors! 👍👍

[@jvl3215]

Having more tools in my shop gives me a high.Whether I use them or not. Cheers from India 🇮🇳.

[@bricemadden5717]

Your table saw reminds me of my mafell Erika purchase....luckily I was able to sell it off

[@TheLastPharm]

Wow! I had never really expected the Lamello to misperform like that. You must have been really pi$$ed off. Makes me feel not so bad about not being able to afford one now 😂

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Other people seem really happy with it, so I’m assuming it’s me; worth it for the Clamex though! 💪👍

[@idlersdream826]

Great video, I don't think you should waste any time with that table saw, get rid & gain a bit more space. I can see your point about the CNC and the same could be applied to my 3D printer, sometimes its quicker to make a couple of parts in less time than it takes to design it and print it, but for other bits I need it's great to set it off batch printing while I get on with other stuff. Oh, and thanks for the LT Jig, very impressed 👍 👏.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! Yes, the LT jigs are a case in point; no way I could make those on my CNC in the kind of volume I need, and even prototyping them is a waste of time because the guy who does the work is just so much better at the software than I am. 👍

[@grumpywiseguy5992]

What a great and honest video. Given the fact that we cannot really see or try out anything in person any more, we are left with looking at pictures on line and reading reviews that aren't always honest. Then we have to trust our gut and purchase whatever it is and hope that it works. The bandsaw I purchased didn't look nearly as large as it really is for instance. Excellent saw just the wrong size for my small shop. I bought locally a jobsite table saw. Should have bought a proper Sawstop table saw, contractor grade or above. The difference in price is in the long run is egligible. The lathe I bought had the right specs, and it looked heavier duty than it turned out to be and had very poor assembly problems that it took a couple of months to fix. But the photos looked great!! Thanks again, happy new year, and stay safe. Looking forwards to your videos this new year.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! It’s also compounded by wanting to make a video about a new too while it’s still new and shiny, but when we haven’t really used it enough to form an opinion about us wage and longevity. 🤷‍♂️

[@dlevi67]

@@10MinuteWorkshop Same issue with 90%+ of reviews and 'feedbacks'... the chasing of instant gratification is costing us all very dearly. So many thanks for providing a longer term perspective. (Just for clarity - I'm not talking of you seeking instant gratification, Peter; it's the idea that somehow providing e.g. eBay feedback to a vendor on a complex tool within 3 days of acquiring it is in any way worth something...)

[@benny7617]

Don't feel bad we all have some of those tools that don't work out.

[@whomadethatsaltysoup]

Great video. Yes, PayPal money doesn't seem like real money, well, not until the end of the month. It is so easy to get caught up in the moment, and watching inspiring videos like yours does tend to make one feel, as you often have said, spendy. Like so many others, I'd love to play with the Domino, but I tend only to buy tools that I'd also use onsite. And TBH, I wouldn't dream of taking a tool like that onto a building site - I mean, hey, where would I use it - it would be in the back of someone's van before morning tea break!

[@whomadethatsaltysoup]

Just a quick question. Do you have any experience of using the self clamping biscuits? Apparently, they work with a standard biscuit joiner.

[@0skar9193]

As long as we learn from our mistakes. I can't say what my worse purchases are - usually the cheapest ones. Saying that my 500 quid 2001 1.2 petrol Kangoo van has been a gem, it's now starting to cost a bit to keep it roadworthy but have you seen the cost of vans at the moment!!!!