Fingerpulls with an Ovolo scribe [video

In this video I share my finely-honed technique for cutting a wardrobe and top-box door #fingerpull with an Ovolo scribe #router #bit and template. Enjoy!
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[@JohnWilson-de6fd]

Crikey Peter, my Patreon subscription is paying for itself many times over. The list of things I'm never going to get involved in is growing by the week. First it was spraying, now it's fingerpulls. Roll on next instalment!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Haha! Well, I swore I wouldn’t do any more of these... 🤷‍♂️👍

[@Bill.L.Carroll]

Never ceases to amaze me just how much dust a router kicks up! Cheers, mate. 👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Cheers Bill! 👍👍

[@mahammad7288]

Your channel so good I wish best from Saudia Arabic 🥰🥰🥰

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thank you so much! Best wishes from London. 👍 😊

[@robbristow]

Hi Peter I see that you are officially a 'celebrity'. I understand that the UK's Advertising Standards Agency have stated that having more than 30,000 followers is a threshold that marks people as a celebrity. Congratulations!!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Haha, thanks Rob! Not sure if KZbin counts - they were specifically talking about Twitter, I think - but yes - I’ll be sure to be careful about which medical products I endorse in future. 😂😂👍👍

[@paulwatson4648]

Hi peter , when I do a cut out like that I plunge cut 1/2” in from the start of the material. The router extractor then takes nearly all the dust from the bulk of the cutout , then return to the start and the small amount of material left inevitably goes backwards onto your trousers but a lot less than if you start at the beginning. Hope it helps

[@bobuk5722]

Hi Peter, you are right to emphasise the PPE aspect. I had a very good friend who was a professional wood worker in his younger days Very sadly he died of 'stiff lung' disease. In his day wood dust was n't take so seriously - and, as you know, mdf is particularly troublesome . A second bench front vac intake port, as mentioned below, would seem to be a very good idea. Maybe the template designs could be modified? The other part of the solution is a clean air supply to a full face mask. Go safely. BobUK.

[@peterprice893]

At which point the second extractor is invaluable, even a Henry or the Dyson from home would help so much to keep the dreaded dust levels down. Good video again, thanks.

[@peterfitzpatrick7032]

One of my favourite jobs when I was self-employed (engineering/fab) was making jigs which I KNEW were going to make me money through efficiency gains... especially a jig which would work on multiple projects... or workholding solutions for when you are alone... Nice vid Pete... btw... thanks for leaving us in the dust while you got some fresh air ... cough cough 🙄😤😤 😎👍☘

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yeah, sorry about that Peter - I hope you had your PPE in place 😷👍😂

[@peterfitzpatrick7032]

@@10MinuteWorkshop well if I did... I wouldnt be coffin now would I ? 🤨 😂🤣😂🤣 😎👍☘

[@hansdegroot8549]

@@peterfitzpatrick7032 From coughing to coffin

[@peterfitzpatrick7032]

@@hansdegroot8549 yer sharp... 🙄😏 😂😂 😎👍☘️

[@Hand-i-Craft]

Very interesting as always Peter. I decided to make my own skirting board for the lounge from MDF. Just using a simple 1/4 round over as the timber yard cut the boards for me in 100mm strips. I asked my father in law around to help me as it was an impossible task on my own, we mounted the router table outside on my mitre saw stand. So glad we did at the mess was just incredible, even with the dust extractor fitted. By the end I look liked I had gone through the dodgiest spray tan ever😂

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yes, it can be filthy work; full PPE essential! 👍

[@stevebosun7410]

Hi Peter, I'm sure I could smell the dust through my speakers!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

😂👍

[@seanjay886]

On demand is a cracking idea. A great way to pay for some great content 😊

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

👍👍

[@christofix]

Thank you for sharing this, Peter. Very interesting

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! 👍

[@marklynch8781]

Beekeepers use an interesting sliding circular saw jig to make a recessed handhold that might be useful as door and drawer pulls.

[@1959ticktock]

Great under the table shot Peter. I can almost taste the MDF dust.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Haha, thanks! 👍👍

[@michaelburton9638]

router cam! I love being where the action is.

[@worzelbxoy3565]

Nice work Dusty Millard😵😨😰😱 I fink we'll be getting a "reducing dust in the workplace video" very soon???????????😋😋😋

[@peterfitzpatrick7032]

As long as its not a "Pitfalls of lung transplants" video !! 🤯😱 😎👍☘

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Now that’s an idea for a video... 🤔👍👍

[@macbaar6073]

In dust we trust... 😜🇨🇭

[@ricos1497]

I did a few of these recently Peter and I used the "Y" hose that comes with the Festool router table (I wouldn't recommend the router table, your home made version looks just as good!). It showed a significant improvement. Not sure if you can pick one of those up on the cheap, but might be a decent investment if you could. Because I was using a template guide like you, I didn't really need to see the cut, so I basically just tied the other hose on in the best way I could to pick up as much as the backfire as possible. Edit: I think you can pick up just the "Y" piece without hose - to which you could attach two of your existing hoses - for about £30. Saves having an entire hose kicking about that is unused

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Rico. Yeah, I only thought about that while I was reviewing the video tbh, and saw the plume of dust shooting out of the slot! I could have just rigged up another extractor to do the underside 🤷‍♂️ Next time...👍👍

[@MrJamespetts]

Nice job. I love routing finger pulls but spraying the doors and getting a good finish on the finger pulls is another story

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yes, indeed: I’m not sorry that these ones have been sent out for spraying. 👍

[@andrew5792]

Jeez you're right, what a mess! Might need a second shop vac with a pick up under the bench. Nice looking profile once cut though.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yes, I thought of that afterwards - of course, lol!😂👍👍

[@normanboyes4983]

Some great shots of the cutter in action - which incidentally also identified where the dust collection needed to be focussed. Still you won’t be doing anymore of these ..... hang on you said that last time.😂👌🏻

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yes, I spotted that whilst watching the video too! 😂😂👍👍

[@BensWorkshop]

Interesting cutter.

[@MrBarrytommy]

While working in a shop fitting workshop years ago the extractor fans were strong but still Airborne particles settle then you breath it in I felt like I had a cold frequently, so lately I try to avoid MDF, I don't think its worth it in the long run

[@Z-add]

was reading up on pros and cons of different types of fingerpulls and one of the cons was that the back surface gets scratched by nails and overtime they start to look hideous. the alternative is to just miter the edge or use a profile that doesn't leave any material on the back side. That way there isn't any back surface for the nails to hit.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Not a problem I’ve come across, I must admit. These fingerpulls are the ‘house style’ with this particular client, and I haven’t seen any issue with fingernail scratches on any of the cabinetry in the house - though next time I’m in there I’ll be taking a closer look! 😆👍

[@Z-add]

@@10MinuteWorkshop yes please reconfirm with them so i can be rest assured that fingerpulls don't have any problems.

[@frankblack1481]

An easy way to take care of the dust is to paint or varnish a piece of timber - it doesn’t matter if it’s mdf, plywood or ‘real tree meat’ - and leave it nearby to dry while you do your routing. In my experience, every single speck of dust will be attracted to and land firmly on that piece of painted or varnished timber. You’re welcome.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Varnish as a dust magnet - I like your thinking, Frank! 😆👍👍😂

[@neddi0]

You could Screw a Stopblock under the Template which gives you always the same Height ( 4:54 ) and it also "seals" the Front so the Dust can't shoot out from the Front. If you then Screw a Thin Plexiglassheet under your Routerbase which cover's the whole Pocket, it could be MAYBE Dustfree. I hope you know what i mean and sorry my bad English ;) and many thanks for the Videos

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Interesting idea - I don't do that many tbh, but I'll bear it in mind if I do any more! 👍

[@howardvickers2049]

Great video as usual. Could you have drilled the waste out before using the ovolo scribe, a lot of dust ! Thanks for all your video efforts Howard

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Howard. Ermm, I may be missing something, but isn't that exactly what I did - used a straight bit in the big router to take out the bulk of the waste, then the ovolo scribe to make the shape?? 🤔

[@howardvickers2049]

Drilling the waste out probably will not produce as much dust. I drill out as much as I can before routing to stop dust. Anyway everyone does things differently really enjoy your style of presentation

[@matthewwhitley]

Lovely thanks. I presume the bit left is strong enough to withstand regular opening and closing (pushing and pulling)?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Oh yes, absolutely. You need at least a 22mm board to keep the edge thicknesses near- equal though. And thanks! 👍👍

[@garethtcollins]

Thanks Peter. I actually quite like the rounded corners. Seems neater, to me at least. Are they easier to spray/paint if they're square?

[@sewob147]

My thoughts too as the chisel was wielded, I prefer the radial corner. Maybe we can convince you, Peter, to amend your method? People power will out!

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

No, harder, if anything. But it's the 'house style' in this household, so entirely up to them. 🤷‍♂️

[@garethtcollins]

@@10MinuteWorkshop fair enough. The customer is always right.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I don't need convincing of anything - The client want what they want, and that's that 🤷‍♂️

[@michaelkelly3356]

It Wasn't clear to me on 1st watching that you were doing both doors at once. As always a great video and I've learnt a lot.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Ah, Ok, sorry - I thought that was obvious, but perhaps I should have mentioned it; probably only obvious if you’ve seen the other videos 🤔👍👍

[@alanmullock381]

Need to make a sliding dust boot for the bottom of your jigs Peter!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yep, figured that out while I was editing the vid! 😂👍

[@markrowland5393]

Loved the video, Peter, especially the shot from underneath the workpiece as it was being routed. If I have one tiny criticism it's the sound quality at the start of the video. It sounds a bit muffled and echoy. Then again my wife's always telling me I'm deaf. Have you ever tried one of those radio mikes? They seem to work well on other videos I've watched but I guess they're expensive.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Mark. I shot this whole thing on my phone as I didn’t want the big expensive camera near all that dust, and the sound does suffer a little. Of course, halfway through I realised the phone cost more than the camera... 🤷‍♂️

[@markrowland5393]

Ah, that explains it. Thanks, Mark.

[@darrenwan4095]

Looking at that layer of dust on yourself, have you ever considered wearing an apron for messy jobs like this?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

One of those ones with a big pocket on the front, to catch all the dust?? 😂No, all a bit old-school for me - it's why I wear workwear 👍

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

@@10MinuteWorkshop "one of those ones"? You mean one of those Peter, there us no such thing as a "ones"!

[@pao2579]

Hi Peter, another great video. I can see a link below where to buy the router bid from. Which part number is it, please.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

You have to pick the one that’s right for the thickness of board you’re using. I’ll check when I’m back in the workshop for the one I used with 22mm, though it was a little snug - would have worked better in 25mm tbh.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

It was the 11mm radius - T1586B-8 Hope that helps! P

[@pao2579]

@@10MinuteWorkshop Appreciated that very much. The shop hasn't got any for the past..... Do you think this is as good T1586B-8E Total respect for you Peter.

[@benrichards1]

Any of you experienced (or not 🤣) wood workers know where to get a similar cutter from, but with a 1/4 shank?. UK based. I only have a milwaukee router and it only takes 1/4 shank. Unfortunately the one in the video is an 8mm shank. Need it to work in 18mm doors.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I’m not aware of one - it’s a big bit to swing even for an 8mm shank!

[@benrichards1]

Looks like il be buying a 1/2 router after all. Thanks again for the reply. I've subscribed to patreon. Keep up the good work.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Lidl have a Parkside 1/4” and 8mm collet router at ~£30 right now; might be worth a punt?? 🤔🤷‍♂️👍

[@benrichards1]

@@10MinuteWorkshop il definitely take a look at that. Thanks again for the help.

[@FritsvanDoorn]

Interesting!

[@michaelmiller5387]

Peter I have a triton router,which straight (bushed - Boss) cutter are you using please?

[@michaelmiller5387]

You may have gathered that I just discovered you a few weeks back so I am enjoying all your content, hopefully to learn a lot from you whilst liking all the content as I go. The ovolo cutter I have found with your link but it displays several models, which one for the 18mm MDF ? Please! I am considering a subscription.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks and welcome. I've never used them in 18mm I'm sorry; from memory I had the 11mm cutter in 22mm board, and it was a bit tight, 25mm would have been better. Not sure there'd be enough space to get your fingers in, in an 18mm board with this cutter, more traditional fingerpulls may be a better bet. 👍

[@michaelmiller5387]

@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks Peter, so it would be 4 hinges on a 22-25mm board then?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Depends on the size & weight, but yes, better to over-spec the hinges on a chunkier door. 👍👍

[@richarddicktaylor219]

I may have to do this myself as our builder thinks it's too complicated. Any suggestions for the minimum depth as the builder used 18mm birch ply which is probably too shallow for this type of handle?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

For this particular cutter I used 22mm and it was a bit snug - 25 would be better. You can get smaller cutters for thinner material, but you need to be able to get your fingers in there and 18mm is very tight.

[@hansdegroot8549]

Quick and very dirty LOL. Great shot from underneath the table. Did your camera have a MPE? (machine protection equipment). Thanks for sharing.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Hans! Have to confess, I didn't want to get my camera in there, so I just used my phone. Then I remembered my phone cost more than my camera... 🤔🤷‍♂️

[@MrLauren23]

Hi peter, I do try to watch all your videos but don’t always get time to watch them in order, so may have missed something in a previous video. How come your sending the doors away for spraying? Cheers.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! No, this was a special case; the client wants a particular finish, needs them turned around reasonably fast, and I don't have time or space to do them; 15 doors in total - would be madness for me to try and take it on, even if I did spray PU, which I don't. 🤷‍♂️👍

[@MrLauren23]

I understand I’ve just finished spraying two large floor to ceiling cupboard doors never again not cost effective for me. You live and learn. Thank you for replying. Cheers Paul.

[@garrysmythe]

Peter, you know I enjoy your video's and have complimented you many times, but, I have to ask 2 questions, many people say the Festoon equipment is brilliant, and many have praised their superb dust collection. I certainly didn't see brilliant dust collection there, and question 2, why is you template so big, for a "slot" that is maybe 2" wide, then why is the template made roughly 3ft by 2ft, of solid 18mm wood.I feel that 2ft by 8" would be plenty, is there a specific reason for yours being so larage , and I'm just think about weight and storage. thanks once again for posting, from Garry in Barnsley.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Hey Garry. Re. the dust collection, this is an impossible ask for any router, with the slot being open at one end, and especially so with the ovolo scribe bit as I have to remove the upper part of the dust shroud for it to fit. But overall, dust collection is much better with Festool equipment, despite what you may think watching this video! Let me put it this way - I have a big Trend router that would have done the cut easily, but the dust generated would have been much, much worse - I've done it, I wont do it again. Re the template size, perhaps it isn't clear, but I'm routing finger pulls in the two doors (left and right) at the same time, so the combined width is ~1120mm. This template was also used on wardrobe doors (same width) that are 1950mm tall with the finger-pulls at 900mm centres, so it has to be that wide - otherwise how would you clamp it down? Template is 6mm MDF btw, not sure where you're seeing the "18mm solid wood" from??

[@garrysmythe]

@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks Peter, you cleared that up mate, I see 18 mm cos I'm an old fart mate carry on as you are ignore me lol

[@jason-hh6lu]

Peter how come you used the green MDF rather then the brown for a wardrobe? Is it just personal preference?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

MR MDF is just a much better quality board, for not much more money. It has a harder core, so it machines and paints well without the ‘fluffiness’ associated with regular MDF. 👍👍

[@Mrfreezeee1]

Dirty jobs done dirt cheap ,lol that a great little pull Peter ,how is it for ware for every day use say like in the center of a pullout drawer or at the tops and bottoms of cabinet doors ,im doing kitchen cabinets rate now and well there not sure if they want handles or something built into the door its self for that clean smooth look ,they look good but yea there messy

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Cheers Syd! They're very good for wear, in my experience, though you need to be using 22mm at a minimum to keep a reasonable thickness either side of the cut-out 👍

[@Mrfreezeee1]

@@10MinuteWorkshop what the hells that 3/4s or 7/8s ....lol

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

😂😂👍👍

[@davidfarnall3211]

If it's cupboards rather than sliding doors, suggest they get push to open push to close catches. Hafele do some nice ones, from memory, and it won't half save a lot of work.

[@mickaelligot9264]

Bonjour, est ce que la fraise que vous utilisez est compatible avec n'importe qu'elle defonceuse? Je serais intéressé pour l'acheter. Cordialement

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Salut. Veuillez excuser mon «google translate» français! Oui, mais ces fraises ont une tige de 8 mm, donc le routeur aura besoin d'une pince de 8 mm pour s'adapter. 👍👍

[@mickaelligot9264]

@@10MinuteWorkshop thx for your quick answer!👍

[@heriothandyman3148]

Do you have any fixing that slots in the routed finger pull, like a metal or plastic pull, or is the mdf the finished article (with paint obviously).

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

No, the machined MDF is the finish; they’ve been sent out form spraying. 👍

[@colh5910]

Hi Peter, i have the same problem with my router and watching all that dust swirling around reinforced the danger of the process. Is there any scope for doing a video trying to address this problem with either another hose underneath or nearby or a dust tent over the piece of work? Just a thought. Thanks as always. Regards Colin

[@caskwith]

I have used my big 4" dust collector as a secondary collection system in these kinds of situations, it works well if you know which direction the dust is going to be flying. Of course it also means you need another dust collector.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Colin. Yes, I thought about the secondary extractor/hose thing as I was reviewing the video! I’ve added it to the video ‘to do’ list 👍👍

[@jdavis460]

Another interesting film Peter thanks. What was the little air quality monitor you looked at?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! See video #287 - Air Quality Moinitor kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4nanqpser-IhbM 👍👍

[@garydunlop468]

You need to clean that workshop lol

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I always need to clean the workshop, lol 😂 👍

[@raffaelefrattaioli2246]

Hi Peter, one question, the ovolo cutter can be used on a solid wood or plywood? Thanks in advance

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Hi Raffaele. Yes, absolutely - it's a regular router bit for all wood types. Obviously it's a large bit, so use with caution in natural timbers esp. with regard to grain direction etc... 👍

[@03Timm]

Vimeo big build now downloaded with discount. Great idea thanks. Which bit of kit did you use to get Alexa to turn off fan. I’ve been looking for similar for ages

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Tim! There are a couple of wifi adapters you can use - I go into the details in the Fan in a Can video #225 - but depending on wether you want one with a timer function or not, then these ones work well 👍:- TP-Link smart plug with timer - amzn.to/2OyU8vJ (US: amzn.to/2OD3x5G) Regular smart plug - amzn.to/2xmfoyb (US: amzn.to/2xv7qSv)

[@michaelmiller5387]

Peter I have been reviewing this video again being impressed with the finger pull design. I have followed your link to the ovolo supplier but there are several sizes to choose from, would you mind telling me the model number (which one it is please) ? I am using 18mm MR-MDF Out of 5 choices only one is in stock and I bet its not he one I need? Cheers

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I don’t recommend these for 18mm boards - I was using 22mm and the materials at the back of the cut was only a few mm thick, with a similar thickness and 18mm boards, there wouldn’t be enough space to get your fingers in. I think the one a I used was the 11mm radius - I’ll check when I’m next in the workshop. 👍

[@michaelmiller5387]

@@10MinuteWorkshop Thank you. I am only planning at this stage so I can upgrade to 22 mm no problem so a confirmation of the cutter size would be appreciated.Chèers

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Hi Michael. I dug out the box and it’s part no. T1588B-8 that I used with 22mm MRMDF. 👍

[@michaelmiller5387]

@@10MinuteWorkshop Splendid thanks for the effort appreciated however 22mm material is in short supply here and to get it from afar makes it impractical. I have came up with another solution for the 18mm which is to have the doors on self close hinge and a push to open device thus no handles needed. At the back of the door in the centre I will form a 45 deg chamfer around 150mm which should suffice. I am going to do a test piece this weekend. Cheers

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

@@michaelmiller5387 Just a quick heads-up; PTO and self/soft close aren't happy campers as the soft-close will fight against the PTO, and vice versa; I'd always recommend unsprung hinges for PTO. But don't let that stop you doing a test. 👍

[@hdjg1]

aah the joys of mdf routing. dust,dust and more dust! Do you use a L or M class hoover/extractor ?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

L. M-class just adds a ‘full bag’ audible indicator 🤷‍♂️👍

[@hdjg1]

might want to check that Peter, the different ratings refer to the filtration levels. I believe L class is good for softwood dust and general dust. M class is for smaller particulates such as mdf and cement dust. Most sites don't allow any L class extractors, only M and H.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

@@hdjg1 Thanks Howard, but it’s been checked and double-checked for years: these FOG threads are from 2015:- festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/festool-midi-dust-classification/ and festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/dust-extraction-l-class-vs-m-class/ Perhaps I should have clarified: Festool L and M class vacs have identical filtration, the only difference between, say, a CTL and a CTM is the sensor that monitors airflow and provides an audible warning when the pressure drops due to e.g. a full bag or blocked hose. And yes, the EU has mandated that all vacs must be Class M for site use, bless them. 🤷‍♂️

[@NickDephill]

Hi Peter, I read below (or somewhere, i've lost it now!) that you're using a 12.5mm radius bit, how thick is the mdf? I'm planning some finger pulls on 18mm mdf or birch ply, not sure yet, would that bit do or do you think the 11mm would be better? (as recommended on Wealden Tool website) Also what thickness mdf would you use for 400mm x 2000mm wardrobe/cupboard doors? As i mentioned I was planning 18mm mr mdf but having watched a few of your videos i think you'd probably say 22mm? thanks, and great vids. Nick

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Hi Nick. Yes, 12.5 mm radius in 22mm MRMDF. Was OK but wouldn’t hurt to have had 25mm tbh, so I’d say yes, 11mm radius for 18mm 👍👍

[@NickDephill]

Cheers Peter thanks for the advice.

[@JesusvonNazaret]

Since you make your own templates, I'd like to know your thoughts on festool's MFS templates. To me they seem to be quite handy, but significantly overpriced and I'm interested if this is the same, or different from a professionals point of view?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I know a couple of people who people made their own from extrusion - they seem to work well. But I have plenty of scrap MDF, and tbh I don’t use them that much, so it’s as easy for me to make them as I need them. 👍

[@macbaar6073]

MDF dust? Collect it, go to next tennis court... there is always a need for a new floor.. 😜🇨🇭

[@guitarchitectural]

How thick is your MDF? Any idea what thickness I would need for a 7' door to be flat? I have to make some workshop cabinets that are airtight and this would be a great technique for the handles!

[@davidfarnall3211]

FWIW, I'd say 18mm minimum, using quality MRMDF (the green stuff and from a good supplier), be VERY careful with handling to avoid them taking up a set, and get an impervious finish on them asap. From experience, it's very disheartening to put two doors in opposition and find one of them has taken a bit of shape, and it's a right bu**er to correct.

[@davidfarnall3211]

And I have no idea why I seem to have replied twice 😮

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

These are 22mm - you need that thickness with this cutter, in order to have enough ‘meat’ either side of the pull. And yes, I’d want 22mm, maybe 25mm for a door that size. 👍👍

[@taylor22270]

Hi Peter, what do you use to monitor the air quality and was it expensive?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

It’s just a basic one from eBay, I talk about it a bit in Video 287. You can get more sophisticated ones now, but this one seems to work OK - bit.ly/Air_monitor 👍👍

[@TimOE2000]

Great video Peter, could I ask, was it a 11mm radius ovolo scribe cutter you used ? Cheers Tim

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks! I’ll have to check Tim - can’t say offhand, I bought it last year for a big job for this same client. 👍👍

[@TimOE2000]

@@10MinuteWorkshop no rush Peter, enjoy your weekend. Cheers Tim

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

@@TimOE2000 Hi Tim - it was the 12.7mm radius - T1588B-8 - the most expensive, naturally, lol! 👍👍

[@mmuhiuddin]

Can anyone post a link for the shelves video he mentioned?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Links are all in the video description: bit.ly/10minutevod 👍

[@johncole9964]

Wow, everyone keeps telling me the Festool routers collect dust better than any other router, neither of those did any better than my Dewalt 621 which costs significantly less.

[@jimcoogan1529]

I have the same Dewalt you do, a Bosch, and a Festool router. Festool does collect dust much better but working with MDF is always a huge pain. When I do stuff like that I use a portable downdraft table that grabs a lot of that dust. Anytime you do that kind of cut, where you hog out a lot of MDF, you almost have to completely enclose the object to cut down on the dust. I really hate working with MDF using a router :-)

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

They do, but these kind of enclosed cuts, or cuts where there’s a ‘shute’ will always be problematic, whatever you use. 👍

[@Dickie2702]

Which of the three bits listed on Wealdens site do you use? We have tried a few dedicated finger pull bits but not an Ovolo Scribe.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

It was the 12.7mm radius - T1588B-8 - the most expensive, naturally, lol! I hadn't used this style before either, but this customer has it on all their fitted furniture 👍

[@Dickie2702]

We generally remove most of the material with a jig saw. Flush up with jig using a pattern bit. After running the drawer pull bit we rout the back and apply a thin (4mm) hard wood strip either Oak, Cherry or Walnut. This gives a stunning contrast and a real quality look. It makes it easier to paint as you are not firing paint into a "trough". Bit more work but still way less than making a shaker door or having plain flat doors with handles.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

@@Dickie2702 Neat. I'm not painting these, thankfully! 👍

[@Samwise457]

Always wanted to know what’s the number plate from?

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

First car, an Austin A40. bit.ly/Austin_A40

[@barryirby8609]

Nice work, but what a mess. You need a four inch dust hose underneath and more. My shop has a coat of dust everywhere from airborne dust.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Yes, it is filthy. 🤷‍♂️👍

[@raysmith1992]

Great video, how strong is the piece of wood that is left as it looks really thin

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Thanks Ray. They’re plenty strong. If you look at the thumbnail you can see the top section of the fingerpull is only slightly thinner than the 6mm template - 5mm maybe - but that’s only right at the edge, as it gets thicker fast, as it curves away. 👍

[@stevewalker7822]

What a mess was right. Way to work safe.

[@nicpye248]

You should checkout the Gid joiner channel, his technique is pretty good.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

He uses a regular finger-pull bit and a template. 🤷‍♂️

[@macbaar6073]

This very dust - and leaving it to sit around - is how to keep wife out of your man cave aka wood shop.... 😜🇨🇭

[@johnbeckman8916]

I think the curved "fingerpulls" look best. Forget the chisel work. 😃

[@robmcdonald1185]

I agree, the curve looked better to my eye. Suppose it depends what the customer has asked for.

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Bingo! They’re not my finger pulls, they’re not yours - they’re the customers 👍👍

[@jimcarroll1005]

Is it just me or is this video very dronny in its sound

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

I dunno, you spoil everyone by using top quality gear for your work, then the one time you shoot it on your phone like everyone else (because of the dust) they complain about it... 😂😂 Yes, I’m aware it’s not ideal - but I didn’t want all that dust around my cameras either - though I realised when wiping the dust off my phone that the phone cost more than the camera... 🤔🤷‍♂️👍👍