Protecting Workers "Rights" Protects Them From Getting Jobs

The Peter Schiff Show (8/27/13)
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[@Zer0Ry0k0]

Wow... Why was that Nancy Pelosi interview hidden? That should have been brought up each month until she was removed from California government. What a gem!

[@ShawnD1]

Wow those are some crazy ass laws. My heart goes out to Spain. Hopefully they can overcome this.

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[@peterschiff]

send us a resume

[@kiwoongpk91]

Nancy must be having some serious nostalgia looking at AOC in politics lol

[@Lumaklau]

Jan Helfeld (the guy who interviewed Pelosi) is a master of the Socratic Method and making people admit their own hypocrisy. The look on Pelosi's face when she realized what was happening was priceless and her reaction even more so.

[@thamnosma]

I love that guy interviewing Pelosi. How rare it is for journalists these days to actually go after politicians like her and with good follow up questions. Make her squirm.

[@de56ep]

It's insane. My mother called me today and she works for a cruise line. They are having trouble keeping employees because they are working long enough to be able to leave the job and file for unemployment. People will abuse the system if you guarantee to take care of them.

[@umairzia8914]

I fucking love this guy. Why can't USA elect this guy?

[@niziu6080]

because the people want something for nothin'

[@thamnosma]

Plus, that caller at the end summed up this issue perfectly.

[@Armando7654]

to have double standards is to have no standard at all.

[@bbunch05]

How great is that guy Jan Helfeld who is interviewing Speaker Pelosi? That guy is better at interviewing politicians than anybody on tv today. No softballs there.

[@TheHerrUlf]

They think that businessmen doesn't work. They ignore the fact that businessmen are the primary workers; so there is no exploitation.

[@johnatan8727]

Keep telling us the truth!

[@sunnyangeles]

All US workers have the same rights as everyone else under the Constitution. Just because someone gives you a job doesn't mean you're entitled to more vacation and more benefits. If you don't like what the employer is offering, you just don't accept the job offer...It's as simple as that.

[@frankwebber3040]

Peter Schiff should be the Republican Party's nomination for President in 2016!.

[@AdamHoggatt]

Minimum wage does not create a minimal standard of living and more than government is "keeping you alive". That's ridiculous.

[@janhelfeld]

I interviewed Barbara Boxer on minimum wage. After 5 minutes one of her employees turned of the electricity in the office and then stole the tape of the interview just like Congressman Torres did as you can see on my you tube titled: Is it wrong to start violence?

[@aaroncalgary]

The problem with your theory is that when an employee working for almost nothing finally get's these "skills" he will be fired and replaced with someone who will work for almost nothing. Vicious circle.

[@thisisstupid991]

As a member of the wealthy elite, I am outraged! I can't believe minimum wage in Spain is almost 5 euros an hour. Why should we pay workers more than 2 euros/hr? Also, where do these politicians get off passing laws that prevent employers from discriminating and harassing workers? And don't get me started on the 16 week maternity law. Come on! The kid can feed itself when they're 2 months old.

[@Alfie-ni7lx]

Good job responding to all the invalid points raised by the interviewer and peter schiff, you really showed youre very well educated on this matter by pulling out all those totally argued for points you're using against them, your sarcasm really showed your ability to look down on those stupid capitalists from your moral highground!

[@gblargg]

Let me simplify it for you: the minimum wage doesn't guarantee that a person can earn that much, it just puts an even bigger gap between not being able to find a job and the minimum value you must provide to get any job at all. Enjoy not being able to find any jobs due to the generous minimum wage.

[@mickygarcia4251]

Why don't we also raise the minimum number of workers that an employer must employ? What number should that be?

[@ThingWhatKicks]

We should raise the minimum wage to $100/hr for everyone who voted for Barbara Boxer.

[@pohkhui]

Nancy has different stand, different position. She is not completely wrong.

[@TheMLMreviewer]

how is her time up!!! she has a bunch of people working for her for free!!!! she has all the time in the world!!!!

[@SamBassComedy]

the minimum wage in spain falls lightly on the plains.

[@TheReapersSon]

Taxation is the worst. I just got a raise recently and that bumped me into a new tax bracket, thus effectively neutering my newly-earned wage increase.

[@BearBully]

Those criminals !! Asking 10$ for 1 hour work?? Now I know why people getting rich in the US...

[@comonsense777]

FYI, what people can do--- The Fair Elections Now Act The Anti Corruption Act Grassroots Democracy Act

[@cupocity303]

There is a Progressive solution to Spain's problem: Make a mandate that those companies with 0 employees MUST hire a certain amount of workers or else.

[@jackmcslay]

Slavery is when you are forced to work for someone. It has nothing to do with working conditions or how much you get paid for your work.

[@squidly1117]

Pelosi said it herself - there is HUGE competition for those senate internships because it's a big check mark on their resume, so they don't care if they get paid or not. it has jack all to do with them wanting to make a "contribution". of course they'll be expected to do that for Ms Pelosi's next campaign.

[@altimp47]

44 days off with pay. Why is America not doing this?

[@JBuckenmeyer]

I'm an American (double nationality) living in Spain and I had to pay severance to my cousin when laying him off (when we ran out of money). He didn't even want the severance, but I was forced by law to pay it, even though I didn't have a cent left and was struggling to make ends meat. If you think Spain is bad, check out France...

[@merryredollie]

i'm working an unpaid internship during the summer. it's great doing a relevant internship during the summer instead of a crappy min wage job

[@UTubekookdetector]

France's union labor laws are equally as intrusive. UGH!

[@residentzombie]

Peter, you should invite Jan Helfield on your show. He is the interviewer grilling Pelosi. He is a true philosophical libertarian.

[@hosseinturner3792]

You depend on lots of people to keep you alive, i.e. other workers and their bosses. A lot of people who receive government benefits are actually hard working people who do not receive enough income from their jobs to support their family in a healthy way.

[@jackmcslay]

They wouldn't be trying to dodge taxes if they weren't overtaxed. If they wanted to get vacations or sick day offs they should be working hard to show their employers they deserve it. Otherwise you end up with people who are working just looking forward to their vacation and being reckless with their health.

[@hosseinturner3792]

No, the problem is the monetary system and government regulations that have made it very difficult for a large amount of working people.

[@TomekSamcik69]

He has this distinct, noble accent

[@chillybilly87]

People are scared to debate him, not the other way round.

[@jeffuehrer]

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[@4G12]

That would simply put these desperate individuals into poverty and either force them into illegal and criminal activities or put dig Spain into an even DEEPER hole by increasing its welfare burden.

[@jeffiek]

DUH. Where do the tax dollars come from? THE WORKERS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

[@johngaspar4425]

The reason Henry Ford paid more hourly wage (5$day.) and cut the working hours was because of the assembly line making it possible to get more productivity out of them; as reported by Herbert W. Armstrong who was sent there to cover the story at the time, and I heard him tell it many times over.

[@comonsense777]

Ghandi’s 7 dangers to Human Virtue- 1) wealth without work 2) pleasure without conscience 3) knowledge without character 4) business without ethics 5) science without humanity 6) religion without sacrifice 7) politics without principle

[@panhead55]

Pete please have the interviewer (Jan) on your program. This guy has a KZbin channel and the interviews are fantastic. Your show is fantastic and I just singed up for my second year as a premium member!

[@ejbh3160]

as for the harassment laws... umm just don't discriminate against your workers and harass them. What kind of person argues to LET an employer discriminate and harass??

[@Markhaggerty1776]

LOL, "the stupidest thing you can do in spain is hire someone. That is why so few people make that mistake" Mr schiff you definitely have a way with words.

[@ShadeWMD]

If I was in Spain and started a business I'd avoid employees like an NFL runningback with the football.

[@gblargg]

It's so ridiculous about no-pay internships. Why do they find it so hard to believe that the intern is able to think for themselves and reason that it's in their interest to work for free and gain experience? Hell, people *pay* to go to college. Could that be considered a negative wage? Maybe that's the trick, employers need to offer education programs where they pay people to be educated, but then charge nearly that much for the education, so they get paid minimum wage but cost the employer less. They should just make it illegal to learn anything or gain any experience without being paid to do it. That'll really teach those evil capitalists a lesson! /s

[@arashahsani]

More people need to see this

[@cupocity303]

Make a mandate that those companies who want to leave cannot leave and must continue operating or else.

[@CaptainZuluGamma]

Thanks for the like! I just noticed there are ten that's cool ! I get frustrated sometimes when someone acts so incredulous and hypocritical, "do as I say not as I do...." my fiancee still does not believe she is a politician.

[@robertguay3773]

I have worked 2 weeks many times for free just to prove myself to be worth the job. I don't anymore but it got my foot in the door and now i make a great wage but that was the 90's and in canada.

[@youngbull73]

Heard this on the live broadcast. Peter Schiff is one of the few intelligent commentators around. You never hear the truth anymore, except from Peter or maybe Bill WHittle

[@ssvegeta1978]

All I'm saying is this. This is just common sense. As a worker, you want to get the most amount of money out of the work you do. As an employer, you want to pay the least amount of money for work. There is no balance to the system when the employer is the one deciding how much to pay. And don't give me that "free market crap." Cause once again, everyone's income has been at a standstill for the past 30 years. If you count the cost of living, then its actually went down. Not cool.

[@TheDrummersMusic]

one of the duties of government interns is to dislike schiff's videos.

[@UnknownXV]

Singapore has this exact effect. Very little government regulation in starting a company, low taxes, and no minimum wage means that there are far more jobs around. Yes, the pay is lower, but their economy is absolutely booming. Overtime, this will improve the well-being and lifestyle of everyone in that country. It's not about the job or the money. It's about the importance to the economy and country overall. The big picture helps the little picture over time.

[@mirsaes]

A real journalist asking Pelosi real questions? What?

[@johndillinger1932]

No they couldn't live on $1.75 an hour, but a 15 year old can and should work for such money, for the sole purpose of building skills in a workplace....

[@jeffiek]

The private sector makes the food. The public sector eats it. Where do you think the money for gov't programs comes from?

[@hynjus001]

The best retort I've heard to proponents of the minimum wage is this: Why not make it $300 per hour?

[@gwydion75]

Actually he's indicating quite clearly that the regulation of making a private contract with someone to take them on as an employee adds costs to the act of hiring someone that brings it above any value they may provide to the business.

[@rwalkenhorst]

When did Peter say people don't prefer higher pay? Of course they do. We all do. The issue is whether it should be illegal for an employer and employee to make a voluntary exchange for less than the minimum wage.

[@thisisstupid991]

OMG!!!!! Barbara Boxer wants to raise the minimum wage to $10/hr!!! Honestly people, and I'm talking directly to the working class here, no one needs that much money. Let's break this down. If you work 40 hours a week, you will work a total of 2080 hours a year. $10 X 2080 = $20,080. After taxes, you'll rake in around $17,000 for the year. Unless you're raising 8 children, you don't need all that money. Raising minimum wage makes it difficult for wealthy people to purchase more yachts!

[@gblargg]

Why would you work a minimum-wage job once you have experience and can earn more?

[@silvermasamune100]

That would be begging for economic disaster.

[@mattmcclellan7781]

Workers' Rights of this type aren't rights, they are privileges given by their government. Imagine inverting the laws to grant favors to the employers: maximum wages (50k per year), maximum sick leave pay, minimum work week (of let's say 70 hours), etc.. It's just the flipside of the same coin. You could call it employers' rights but it would just be privilege granted by the government to another player. No rights should have a corresponding imposition on the other party involved. A right to free healthcare is the most famous example of late because for you to get it free, the doctor or pharmaceutical company has to work for free....or a totally uninvolved third party is made to pay for it. Unfortunately, that is how the government obfuscates the market, complicates law, and drags us all down eventually by overriding life's natural incentives to survive and thrive.

[@mattmcclellan7781]

I know that Schiff is against market intervention in general. He is a businessman and an employer and he probably looks at countries all over the world to determine where taxes and regulation are the least onerous and then sets up a branch there. He obviously wouldn't set up in Spain and that's sad for the young talented Spaniards in the financial world.

[@gamevalor]

Employees go wherever they want to work, there's no need for regulations. If they want to earn more, they can either request that from their current employer, or work somewhere else, or start a business. Government regulatiosn makes that difficult for such people and high taxation makes life much more expensive specifically for low-wage earners. Any organization or person should be free to help and support the needy.

[@andreslebon3869]

I live in Spain, today 15/08/2018, I can tell you that the Spanish labor situation is a disaster!!

[@johndillinger1932]

Because fudging the books is something only CPAs do?

[@PassTheLoot]

...and the courts agreed!

[@CaliforniaArchitect]

Unfortunately such logic falls on deaf ears. So many people just don't understand that the minimum wage laws prohibits entry level jobs even if the employee is perfectly willing to work for less.

[@pbfrank13]

Not really in our system because they are granted privilege like limited liability and tax breaks or loopholes that their competitors are not given.

[@bma051000]

"Who voted to elect her?" Californians. 'Nuff said.

[@FreedomIsAChoice777]

Yes we have welders. They are usually multi-craft mechanics.

[@ssvegeta1978]

I know I'm going to regret this. What does the government have to do with the lack of income?

[@MrApplewine]

The issue is that rights have to precede economics. Philosophy of politics and philosophy of law can only determine what rights are. You can't make economic arguments divorced from rights.

[@SuperSuperSmartguy]

This comment should not be marked as spam. Jan is the interviewer of Nancy Pelosi in the video Peter Schiff shows.

[@FreedomIsAChoice777]

Right now I manage 30 people in a union plant. There are a handful of guys and gals that are very valuable, doing highly skilled jobs and they are getting paid almost the exact same thing as people who put meat in a bowl for living. Now, people say the Free Market can't exist except in some fantasy utopia. Well, it may have its flaws, but where is the fairness in the above example?

[@jeffiek]

"I can easily prove that both are not true." I'm waiting.

[@glenlad3991]

I'd prefer companies function by recruiting partners than wage workers. Wage workers have no reason to work hard because they have no stake in the business. Partners would get a percentage of the profits or some measure of their productivity. Partners would be motivated to make the company succeed rather than put in the minimum and go home.

[@nikkicanada69]

"We raise that minimum wage" .. "We make investments where it matters".. Who is this "we" she keeps referring to?

[@UnderseaCaveman]

How does a person on their own live on $7.50 an hour...in the U.S???? After gov with-holdings, how does a person live on $1000 per month??? That is well below the poverty line! Why is a person employed compensated below the poverty line? Apparently a machine does not exist to substitute that person, so how is compensation below poverty justified? We (society) end up paying for it via social welfare with-holdings.

[@fiatno]

Do not give ideas to our politicians, please. Irony, in this case, can be very harmful, which is a paradox, considering the irony of my comment.

[@hag12100]

Spanish labor policies have kept the Spanish economy at a recession state. It's was bad when I was there last year and I don't think things have changed over there.

[@EgilWar]

Without an increase in productivity where will the profits come from to pay increased wages?

[@comonsense777]

If mininmum wage in 1969 kept up with inflation, today mininmum wage would be $19.00-21.00 per hr. Mininmum wage should allow you to have a life outside of your job, so you can live. Poverty wages is crimminal-

[@mba2ceo]

USA ~ Estimated homeless figures in the United States range from 600,000 to 2.5 million Source: fas.org, 2009 Spain ~ An estimated 39,654 people are homeless in Spain An estimated 6,190 sleep on the streets Source: Red de Apoyo a la Integración Sociolaboral (RAIS) 2010

[@MsH1h1h1h1]

these startups are independent consultants. none will hire employees unless they are very lucky

[@zoruxma]

Man I wish you were a senator

[@ssvegeta1978]

So, just to get this straight. When government grows, it has an effect on people's income? How does it do that when one is the public sector and the other is private?

[@ssvegeta1978]

What i wanted to illistrate with both examples is that you have two people (basketball player, Walmart clerk) that overall generates or brings money to their respective companies. If Lebron does not do what he's good at, his team fails along with the owners. If clerks at Walmart don't do what they are suppose to, then the company fails. But this is not the case, Walmart thrives while workers receives very little in return.

[@hosseinturner3792]

Employers also have their own sense of entitlement with regard to increasing their profits even as wages fail to increase in line with them.

[@ssvegeta1978]

The economy did not collapse when minimum was raised a whopping 70 cents in 2009. Prices did not go through the roof and our society survived. As a matter a fact our economy was in a slow recovery after the collapse in 2008. Was is it that unions for professional sports is just fine. Unions for various media outlets are fine. But when it comes to unions for the average worker, that's crazy talk. Don't you want fair pay for a day worth of work?

[@johanexxxx]

Libertarianism is the rationalization of corporatism.

[@77Tadams]

This is worse than the depression, this is going to be really interesting is all I can say...

[@janhelfeld]

Thank you Peter. I would love to be a guest on your great show.

[@fastbreakr]

I just started clinical rotations as part of my medical training, and I am realizing how I am used as free labor by these clinics and hospitals.

[@squishyplums2415]

I got payed under the table a lot working in Spain. Better on me and my employers. I also payed people under the table.

[@marniespeaks]

interns: how do they eat and where do they sleep?