Modern Concepts: Ford GT90, Chrysler ME Four-Twelve and Cadillac Cien

[@Deputy_Doofus]

The ME Four-Twelve has barely aged at all design wise.

[@kelvinwilson4419]

That ME-412 would've been sensational 😢

[@DesertStateInEU]

Precisely why Mercedes cancelled it. The lady explained it partially at the end of the video. Chrysler built it in less time, for less money, and would've absolutely humiliated the SLR Mclaren in 0-60, top speed, handling, braking, etc and it would've even cost less. The "too expensive" excuse was just an excuse because clearly Mercedes is not gonna admit why they really cancelled it. And this is just one of many, many examples, of how european automakers are absolutely terrified of having to compete with American brands on a level playing field. The other perfect example is the Charger and 300, which would almost drive the V8 C and E class of Mercedes out of business, if they were officially imported to europe and sold for a fair price, without the extra taxes and fees that europe uses to artificially keep US brands from selling in europe. But thats another story, and I don't intend on posting a wall of text comment right now.

[@napalmarsch]

finaly the Ford GT90 is where more pepole can see it thanks

[@Davivd2]

It's been in a museum in Texas for years.

[@xtianeskay5166]

Pepole or peephole?

[@joeschmoe5009]

​@@Davivd2 i saw it in oklahoma

[@RDEnduro]

Wow those three concepts together is really something special!

[@prodyung829]

exactly its so cool they are together. as a car guy that's just amazing to me.

[@vladpootin5973]

This is like the holy trinity of 2000s American halo cars. 🇺🇸🦅

[@vladpootin5973]

Oh

[@Davivd2]

The day that a car manufacturer realizes that they just need to build the concept car will be a game changer. Nobody is really excited that a few curves from these cars were slapped onto the design of the box on wheels production cars that we've been driving an iteration of for half a century.

[@NarasimhaDiyasena]

Problem is regulation. We are lucky Lamborghini is even legal here.

[@2003AudiS3]

Such an original comment you have

[@PlatinumNath]

There's been some instances already of concept cars that make it to production almost unchanged in terms of exterior except for interior changes for easy production. BMW i8 for example, Honda S2000 (kinda, it's 90% similar to SSM concept), Suzuki Swift ZC31 (minus the funky roof), Nissan GT-R R35 (same case as S2000 - small changes to make it a bit more production feasible), Audi R8 1st gen, Audi TT, etc.

[@benn454]

@@NarasimhaDiyasena And money.

[@Lex24HD]

@@PlatinumNathdon’t forget the Renault Avantime, they didn’t changed anything from its concept phase

[@noiisserpmii]

Who remembers the days of Midnight Club 3 with the Cien ME412 & Sixteen.

[@bobbyspanino6874]

While all 3 cars are masterpieces. That ME 4-12 is perfection.

[@prodyung829]

the fact they used the Cien for movies shows people love the look. I remember when I saw It in transformers I was so happy. it looked so good.

[@benn454]

And it actually runs and drives, unlike the GT90 and ME-412

[@Redswipe]

I remember the Cien from Gran Turismo. Love the look of that car

[@JaydenDimaio]

That Chrysler looks so good

[@adnaanu]

The concept cars in the late 90s and early 2000s were fantastic. Good Times for automotive design.

[@ericcarabetta1161]

All three of these would look right at home on the roads today and they’re all over 20 years old, that’s pretty impressive.

[@EJFXxx]

I love how the GT90 tires have GT90 as part of the tread

[@BryanSteacy]

One of the most insane things about the GT90 is the one-off tyres that have "GT90" in the treads.

[@anthonyfrench3169]

All three were and still are pretty cool. To be honest, I was really hoping Cadillac and Chrysler would build these cars...but seeing all three 30 to 20 plus years later. They still look good!

[@prodyung829]

That painting of the GT90 was really good. I would love to have something like that at my house.

[@steamyhotpoo]

Not a painting. Looks like a blown up image of the original sketches of the car. Likely would have been markers and maybe chalk/pastel.

[@Gretschdude1412]

The ME Four Twelve is my ultimate what would have been..... still stunning today!

[@DaMotoristX]

Funnily enough, I remember the GT90 from Sega GT 2002, the Me Four-Twelve from Forza Motorsport 1, and the Cien from Gran Turismo and Hot Wheels. It's amazing how influential games can be.

[@beaglemusiclabs]

three legends. so cool to see them together!

[@jjjjcole]

GT90 is still on my dream car list

[@ElyciusM]

Didn’t realize the gt90 was at the Petersen now. That’s cool. Had a pic of it on my wall as a kid

[@avo_gato_sloth354]

Oh the GT90. You remind me of Need for Speed 2 on the PlayStation 1.

[@anthonyfrench3169]

Exactly!! And the XJ220!! Who would've know playing that they were cut from same cloth. Pretty cool!

[@radicaIized]

The Cien and ME412 reminded me of midnight club 3

[@UndercoverBoy833YT]

you reminded me the GT90 from both NFS2 and PGR3 same for ME412 and Cien for Midnight Club 3

[@prodyung829]

I gotta come visit the GT90, it was in Ohio for a bit. now its in LA, that's great. The Cien, the ME and the GT90 looks so dang good. I can't wait to see it in person.

[@BlessBeNice]

Perfect 3 combination. Still today those three cars are Flawless victory.

[@Reilsss]

I never imaged in this live time to see the three of the american holy trinity side by side. Looks so beautyful. Now image any of this had made it past concept... what a world we could have had.

[@jessekohler6000]

The Cadillac Cien is just perfect in opinion, i would take that over a Bugatti. Just pure class. I could see it as a 918 type performance car but with a Bugatti's luxurious GT feel and with a perfect twist of matching looks. Ever since Test Drive Unlimited, this car is the one concept car I would wish to actually be made if only one could be made.

[@hakeemsd70m]

The Cien was gorgeous. The 2003 Cadillac Sixteen and '03 Chevy SS Concept are two others cars that should've been built.

[@waynehysa4761]

My 3 favorite supercars in one museum fantastic

[@NewbombedTurk]

The GT90 and Indigo were some of the biggest blue balls Ford ever gave us, next to the Super Stallion

[@TheSinkingGarage]

There was a cool Ford 500 concept iirc and that concept made of bamboo that was like a modern Briggs Flyer. The gt90 and indigo were stellar.

[@PlatinumNath]

The Indigo's engine went on to power Aston Martin for a while so it's not all for naught.

[@toddthezondalover645]

I thought the Mach 3 concept was cool too tbh

[@Felibenterprise]

Damn mercedes that chrysler looks so good man

[@blindfoldedmissile]

Quite the collection, I'd be scared of letting people in at this point.

[@marciamartins2447]

Concept cars are such cool little pieces of automotive history of "what could've been", i love them

[@PlatinumNath]

At the very least for the GT90 it's a running prototype, while the ME412 is I'm pretty sure was actually production ready essentially. Not sure about the Cien, but yeah, a very "what could've been" with atleast the ME412.

[@georgeloizou2484]

That Cien could still be produced

[@JG9Youtube]

Honestly I've heard many times over the years that the Cadillac Art and Science design philosophy is "outdated", and I'm sitting here thinking am I seeing something different to others? - because to me it always looked visionary and still does to this day

[@prodyung829]

@@JG9KZbin 100% agree. Cadillac is just way too far ahead of their time (not in a bad way) and most people can't handle the styling. the Cien looks so good even today, it has a classy yet sporty look. I agree man they always have made cars that where so well styled for their time. its kind of like how people call BMW's ugly when they first release but after a couple years they get called pretty. I agree so much that car could be made on a c8 Chassis and it would sell. Its so good looking. it looks like it was made yesterday.

[@JG9Youtube]

@@prodyung829 Exactly and also true with BMWs.

[@johnnymason2460]

The Corvette people won't allow it. They won't allow any other GM vehicle to usurp the Corvette in any way.

[@PlatinumNath]

​@@johnnymason2460 there's no fury greater than a Corvette engineer learning that the Corvette is losing in it's own house

[@ArachniusWebb]

I don't know why you did this, but I'm very thankful

[@theninethrees8044]

Midnight Club 3 DUB edition 😎

[@ArachniusWebb]

The Chrysler super car is literally my favorite thing in all existence. My favorite production racecar is the Gumpert Apollo and I drive a Lincoln Mark. That Chrysler is exactly what i would want had i been born wealthy

[@mikewozawski1634]

As a kid concept cars always fascinated me, these forsure my 3 favorite of the "supercars"

[@christianmcvay8258]

The ME-412 has aged like fine wine

[@JG9Youtube]

Visionary designs, with their own identities and visions of the future. Outside the box, daring, balls (not sterile like so many current concepts), designed to be cars and not mobile living rooms or architectural exhibits, and each like nothing else seen in the industry

[@alexandriabrangwin]

.....this is the future we wanted! Test Drive Unlimited (2006) gave us most of that room counting on at least SOME of them making it to the streets.

[@mehrshadvr4]

We are coming to LA in a week and I plan to visit the museum again. I hope all of these cars in this video are still there when I am there.

[@PetersenMuseum]

They will be!

[@LuckyQuadrifoglio]

I’m so happy these are finally in town for me to see

[@sidlazzar1002]

That Chrysler was and is still a beautiful design 😍✨

[@shakedlevi5686]

Thank you very much for this great video

[@nighttrain1565]

I thought I remember seeing something about Christina milian buying the first and only public Chrysler ME 412 but maybe I'm Mandelling

[@richardike2342]

Not producing the Cadilac Cien is one of GM's greatest mistakes. You mentioned two V8 engines where played with to get the GT90's V12. But it takes two V6 to make a V12.

[@Zero2Niero]

That’s right. They saw off a row from each block

[@toddthezondalover645]

​@@Zero2NieroExactly

[@shottaslim8378]

Ford Indigo was another one of my favorite concepts

[@prodyung829]

The cien had a 7.5 liter engine? jeez that's crazy.

[@playgt326]

Those hypercars should be produce right now, is not too late. Cadillac would likes to make a hypercar, so they could use the GTP's technology to create a V16 (using 2 V8) hypercar 😳. Chrysler can easily bring the ME 4-12 with modern dashboard and modern lights using 2 V6 for make a V12 with a bio hybrid system (for be subsidiary of Stellantis), and the Ford GT90 should be release with modern dashboard and a efficient V8 🏎️💪🏻

[@hertzwave8001]

chrysler is broke af and stellantis' whipping boy, they aren't doing anything good anytime soon, i doubt ford is interesting in anything with more than 8 cylinders or the gt platform anymore, for better or for worse, and cadillac seems to be trying to move away from ICE regardless as to whether or not thats actually a good choice, but ironically i think they are the most likely to make something of a spiritual successor to the cien

[@PlatinumNath]

They probably would only be able to max it out at maybe turbo V8s like Ferrari due to the emissions regulation nowadays choking cars out more still and encouraging downsizing even for fast cars.

[@toddthezondalover645]

They could also use two Hurricane inline 6, creating V12 with quad turbo.

[@hertzwave8001]

@@toddthezondalover645 slow down there partner, you're gonna kill the polar bears with that one

[@bluemutt9964]

The Cien is begging for a Blackwing revival

[@3n3ly7m9]

ME-412 was the only one that had a few concepts that the public got to actually ride in on the SRT ride along on track.

[@WayApp]

Concept cars that dared to dream!

[@azrifadli8777]

That three cars reminds me that I played the PS2 games picking that three iconic concept supercars.

[@tylercouture216]

I have waited for a ME-412 review for soooooooooooooooooooo long

[@ilon7799]

What an awesome video! What a cars! I know about Cadillac and Chrysler from the best game in the world - TDU1. But I didn’t know about GT90 at all. It’s so cool to see things like that. Thanks a lot!

[@spooku5495]

Nice video bea! Hope to see you more in future videos :)

[@Pluna-di6vw]

Bea is such a good presenter tbh, not over the top like most " car presenters " like supercar blondie And this topic is by far my fav, as i grew up loving this cars and still do, one day ill make the ME4TWELEVE real

[@hobbymanx9200]

Agreed

[@naturalborndylla]

Holy Trinity of PS2 era concept cars

[@Happymali10]

(You might want to push the GT90 back a few inches so it covers up that power outlet) Also please try to straighten out the badge on the ME Four-Twelve's steering wheel.

[@hobbymanx9200]

As a child I wanted a Ford GT-90 🥺

[@spencerthu2956]

Those cars still look great! All of em look like good enough to come out now or even a couple years from now! They are gorgeous!!! If I never seen that Caddy and next year it was released as 2026 model I'd be like that's amazing! The Big 3s problem is not what they design or make ...their problem is and has been for 30+ years, is that they need to believe in their own creation and product; they need to back it and push it like it's the best thing out there! The Big 3s marketing and advertising and business model is their only problem!! A great design never ages...they need to think like that again! I was floored by the interior of the Ford Gt90 . Just add led to them gauges and info screen and it'd look like an interior from a modern exotic... actually it looks almost futuristic.

[@emilianocruz11]

Sadly miss the 2003 cadillac sixteen hope see the car in the next video on the museum

[@pauljr.harrington1905]

That car is not at the museum, I was there and didn't see it.

[@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant]

I also really liked the Cadillac Sixteen. Would be really neat for Cadillac to team up with Bugatti and make one with Bugatti's new V-16 in it.

[@pumarolz]

The Cadillac cien is a possibility today with the corvette c8 platform

[@widjojohuang7854]

I think these are the holy trinity of american V12 supercar (Which never happen 🥲)

[@unkindled6410]

Theres a 4th tecnically, but it was an even wilder prototype, the Covertte ZR12 with a ridiculous 10L V12 straight out of a high speed boat from the time.

[@widjojohuang7854]

@@unkindled6410 Ahh. I guess i didn't know that v12 corvette, right?

[@unkindled6410]

@@widjojohuang7854 yes, however that one was more like just a C4 vette at the time with an extended front and said V12 straight out of a racing boat, it was deemed not only too expensive of a project but also too dangerous as one would expect, surprisingly the engine wasnt as stupidly heavy as one would think since it was made of mostly aluminum. I wonder if they could had reduced the displacement to only a little over 8L since the idea was to try to compete with the vipers absurdity at the time and tweaked to be a little better as a car engine.

[@toddthezondalover645]

Not V12, but the rotary Corvette concept was cool, and the Indy Corvette which basically everyone forgot about

[@josephstratemeier8619]

A northstar V12 sounds like the pinnacle of reliability 😂

[@zacksung11]

It's the GT90 for me. I've always been a Ford guy and it's a sight to see. But I'm interested to know the story of that Shelby GR-1 on the corner.

[@toddthezondalover645]

Same car underneath as the proposed Cobra concept of the time. V10, 6 speed manual, 500-600hp. You can drive both in Test Drive Unlimited.

[@G59METH]

You've got the Shelby GR 1 Concept RIGHT THERE and you're talking about these cars ???

[@Tetsuo1312]

The Cien was supposed to be Bill's car in Kill Bill Vol 2 but he ended up with a DeTomaso Mangusta

[@scootosan]

the Caddy

[@hectorae86]

Jackwire hell yeah

[@nighttrain1565]

I'm curious what the reason was with Ford not going with it. The XJ220 may have been a revolution in design but under the skin it's pretty traditional. Production costs were probably pretty low. Interesting.

[@Zero2Niero]

@@nighttrain1565 xj220 wasn’t exactly a success. The design of the gt90 as said was not a home run. The cost was prohibitive and it would have hampered the other two brands in the ford galaxy: Aston Martin and jaguar.

[@unkindled6410]

But wasnt it going to be a higher end class of its own? Tbf the engine cooling at the time wasnt done properly (weird considering Buggattis EB110 used similar config) so the engine couldnt really operate so optimally in it.​@@Zero2Niero

[@bipolaryx]

ugh i wish they show the Cadillac Sixteen

[@johnnymason2460]

It would have been hard to get the GT90 produced. The other two should have been produced. Chrysler would have benefited from the ME412 being their halo car. The Cien would have made Cadillac more world class. But that would have clashed with the Corvette people who seem to have complete control over GM.

[@krocialblack]

To think. In a different universe, all three of these cars would've made it into production, become the automotive holy trinity and America would be considered the the hypercar kings of the world.

[@sportschamps2486]

true hypercars

[@XxsunshinegirlxX]

i know these cars from Midnight Club 3 and Gran Turismo 4 ;D

[@Andoniscars]

amazing and benchmarking. the cien is still the best. the gt90 still looks outatime

[@02lucy666]

We could have had world peace, if mercedes would have chosen the me412 over the slr mclaren… Ill never forgive them for that.

[@Ray-rw7nz]

The Chrysler Me 412 was a pre-production prototype. It was going to be built until the mercedes benz amg guys cried nonstop because their version sucked.

[@Zero2Niero]

Which is exactly what has been said in the video no?

[@hertzwave8001]

discounting the me412, what mercedes did to chrysler is criminal

[@Shepelx2]

This was a sad story 😢

[@RomanM803]

Wasn’t the Chrysler supposed to be built but Mercedes got jealous because Chrysler outdid the SLR at the time.

[@kdubb81]

The Chrysler is MY design! Mr. Nilander copied it off a design review board at SJSU 😡

[@emilianocruz11]

The three Cars are the Best ones on concept because the three Cars never Made into produccion because they are very expense to bulit a limited numbers

[@JohnDoe-jk3vv]

I see a Shelby GR-1 👀

[@jeanmaxmontagner5451]

😍🇨🇵👍

[@edrcozonoking]

"Jag-wire" arrghggg!!!!

[@waynehysa4761]

Is Petersen museum for tourists? Can I see it or it’s a private museum?

[@PetersenMuseum]

It is for everyone - we are open to the public!

[@knuckles9250]

Ford GT90?!?

[@dylansmith8501]

Fastest click

[@SlowV6Mustang]

it's a shame chrysler went to shit before they could ever make anything as cool as this as a production car

[@charlespierro8048]

Money irrelevant, I'd bring that Cein to the street. I'd just build it.

[@MichaelJohnson-ey1nv]

Jag-you-are😅

[@Felibenterprise]

Not feeling the gt90 wheels

[@Bod8998]

Ya see the gaps on the GT 90 ya can see inside the car from the gaps in the glass.and the rust.shame.historic motor

[@tedyshor]

Hi Dee 🖖

[@LuLi-w7o]

cringe

[@shakedlevi5686]

1ST place- GT90/ 2nd- Cien /3rd-the over styled ME-4 12

[@unkindled6410]

If anything the GT90 is more overstyled. My only gripe with the ME412 is the rear lights feeling really weird.

[@nodafy]

Bet she can’t explain how a turbo charger works

[@11ICE]

I'll take the Cien, the GT90 looks like shit.

[@Gemini_Godhand]

I'm still pissed off that the Ford GT90 was NEVER produced as I was confident that my 90's kid wet dream would come true! (the Ford GT currently is a middle aged man's wet dream come true. Two totally different wet dreams)