2020 BMW F900R 1500 Mile Ownership Review | Two Problems! 😕

[@PetroHead]

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[@kabanashvili]

My F900R is at around 1000 miles by now. I also had startup and quickshifter issue. My brother owns S1000R and I just thought the quickshifter was better on it, right until the 600 mile service on F900R. I didn't even complain to them but they must've adjusted something with the quickshifter since it felt almost on par with s1000. It wasn't jerky anymore. It rarely still jerks from first to second but it's not even an issue at this point. 600 mile service definitely helped it A LOT

[@PetroHead]

Nothing changed for me after 1st service... Unless you asked them to check on the QS, they wont do anything... did you ask them to fiddle with it?

[@kabanashvili]

@@PetroHead I did not, but they definitely did some "adjustment" because it felt really smooth right after the service

[@adzari]

Contemplating on getting one myself. And your videos are really helping me decide. Though due to COVID, stock at our local dealers is backlogged. Next units in red will only be available in January ‘21 😳 so it’s going to be a very long wait to see it in the flesh. In the meantime, keep them videos coming and stay safe 👍🏼

[@tomassantos9120]

Now you should have the bike, hope shes the thing that you was expecting! I want One too! ✌🏼

[@JayTheTapp]

Never had a coldstart issue in the 1200 km I've had it so far. ( I only put premium 91+ gas ) Going from 1st to 2nd, having to go through neutral you'll never be as smooth as the other gear. So that's expected. Also, the quick shifter I found works a lot smoother when reving up. 5k rpm more.

[@Swrdfshtrmbns]

I have about 700 miles on my F900R, had it for 3 weeks so far. Going in for its first service next week. I absolutely love it. I have had the cold start issue as well, but it only happens a minority of the time. I have the same quickshifter issue.

[@Sven793]

Hey I own a F900R Sport and I have 3000km (1860mi) on the clock. In these 3000km I never experienced any cold start issues. Hopefully you can get it fixed with a software update at the dealership :) Btw I love the bike sofar, plenty of power, a lot of comfort too and that TFT display is just amazing.

[@PetroHead]

Its weird.. some have the issue, some don't but on the forums, if you post a cold start post, you get tons of common replies.. This makes it hard to get fixed.. how to replicate it as I've addressed in my review video. 🤷

[@rockingrodders8551]

You not right about an intermediate problem because you could film the problem as evidence and then show them..Cool review man..nice one from the UK..✌️

[@emanuelmarcos]

My negative points were exactly the same of yours, at the moment 4400km no cold start problems, about the quickshifter and gear changes its a complete diferent prob, I hope bmw solves this, gear change even engaging clutch aren't smooth at all, using quickshifter it's also noisy and clunky...hope they fix this soon, I got a full extras bike with all the bells and wistlers,its not a cheep bike.

[@stevemillerecon]

Firing on the second push of the button is not a cold start "issue". It's a "thank goodness carburetors are no longer a thing" issue.

[@ToastToGo]

Fantastic ownership review. I feel like a bike like that should come standard with fully adjustable suspension

[@Ferg-1958]

Hi from the UK I think I’m 3 years to late, but I’ve subscribed anyway 😂 Really good videos. Relaxed, informative and professional. I pick up my brand new F 900 R on Saturday. I traded in my Kawasaki ZH2 believe it or not. Ferg 👊

[@PetroHead]

Never too late. Welcome.

[@TwoWheelHardO]

Bro. I’m right at 1400 on my F900R. The cold start issue for me has gone away around the 1k point.

[@joevelasquez728]

Im thinking about purchasing one. What package did u get. Dealer is offering the premium and adding on quickshifter for 350.00. OTD for 13800.

[@PetroHead]

I had premium and select package.. just find out if they ironed out the QS harshness first.. but if it’s your first time on a QS.. you may not care.. TD one first. GL

[@skovalskiy]

Have 2000km on my odo. Cold start issue did not solved. Its kinda random, and doesn’t really bothering me. Quickshifter is problem of all bmw bikes. Top models also has rough shifting

[@Gerymx]

900XR with 350 miles. Cold start issue at every first start. Only around every 4th attempt will it idle properly. I hope the first service or more mileage will solve it.

[@nocheating23]

400 miles on mine,no issues besides no fender eliminator available 😁

[@ckenz21]

the quick shifter is designed for spirited riding, not on the start of the ride u just have to live with it using the clutch on the 1st and 2nd gear. thus, by the way, the f900r sport cost here is around $19,000.

[@PetroHead]

Maybe for earlier generations that’s true but I’ve ridden about 25 bikes in less than 12 months, most modern bikes shift smoothly from 20mph and low in the rpm range. This is simply sub par quality or a software issue.. who knows 🤷‍♂️

[@kevind.5246]

@@PetroHead Just this AM I was reading of similar issues with the 2019 F750GS and 2016 R1200RS. So BMW has some tweaking to do. I'm getting used to it (But I didn't have on other bikes so not spoilt :) )

[@PetroHead]

@@kevind.5246 At this point in my riding journey, my standards are higher than most.. that said.. most wont care as much as me because many people haven't even experienced QS before.

[@MrRGM10]

Yes it has shitty transmission very clunky . Not sure if the price justifiable. Although bike looks and sound cool with all the features

[@hunter_fitz.3301]

I just bought an XR last week and have 600 miles on it and I ride everyday and I have had the cold start problem only once or twice but it seems to be alright

[@PetroHead]

Yamaha R6 also had a cold start issue in 2017 when it was redesigned but in 2018 they fixed it. The same will happen with F900R/XR I think.. I have a feeling they know about these things and release bikes anyway.. it’s lousy tbh and they should respect customers more by releasing a final product free of defects.

[@williambedell3470]

465 miles on mine. Cold start issue when brand new (5 miles until 250 miles) but seems to be happening less and less as miles go on. Does your bike not start at all or does it start on 2nd attempt? If mine fails first punch of the button, it always starts 2nd attempt no issue. I didn't go with the quick shifter option pkg so I can't help out there. As always, thanks for the great content!

[@PetroHead]

2nd attempt fires it up although a bit sluggish at first.

[@bigred8438]

are you able to tell us about the quick shifter because everyone seems to say it is no good.

[@PetroHead]

It’s a 2 cylinder bike with high torque.. even KTM’s with similar engines are this way. Anything with 3-4 cylinders won’t have this issue. Try one and compare.

[@dgomes265]

Generally you should be accelerating when you upshift. 1st to 2nd is generally a rougher shift on most bikes including my R1200R.

[@PetroHead]

Nope. I've ridden bikes where it's smooth in every gear. My Ducati, The 636 I tested for the whole week, the Street Triple RS.. I can go on.. Only happens to BMW bikes I think..

[@senor-fa-von-dia]

@@PetroHead you could always buy a different quick shifter if it's that bad. I know it's not ideal when you spent that money on a new bike but it sounds like it's just designed that way so you will have to live with it.

[@kevind.5246]

Thanks for doing this, Dude. Only 2 wks and 300mls on mine and similar observations. I do have the old s/w (saw the new rev on your TFT review. Thnx) despite request to dealer's Sales before pick-up. Will ask at the 600 mls srvc. Love the bike and all the features. Did yours come w/ the Navi mount and you removed it? Currently I'm using it to charge my mobile but prefer the cleaner look. I've seen exhausts listed from Arrow and Akrapovich here on youtube.

[@PetroHead]

Yea removed that ugly thing.. and exhausts on YT are prob from other bikes.

[@puneetsehgal8200]

How expensive to own the BMW F900R? Like maintenance cost and parts and all

[@tom3596]

Had this cold start issue until the software-update at 1500 Km fixed it ....

[@canerustmert9771]

I did not go for a bmw f900r.. 2021 mt09 ftw :)

[@hermiealcanites4109]

How do you think will it perform on long distance rides? I own a BMW R1200 GS RALLYE and I use it for long distance rides primarily for the comfort it brings with its long travel suspension. I seldom go off road though. My problem is its height and (guess what) weight.

[@PetroHead]

Check out my road trip video.

[@juliperez8315]

SC project has the slip on for this bike. I bought mine through Motovation usa. Cost me 757.00 It dam prety....

[@senor-fa-von-dia]

do you have any videos? The only ones I have seen so far don't sound much different than stock. I want to hear this can without the DB Killer.

[@PetroHead]

Now its your turn -- Any issues similar to mine? Comment down below.

[@BigiBeef]

There are a few exhausts available now that are specifically made for the F900r. I have the carbon Akrapovic on order, SC project have one, Arrow also. Check their websites.

[@senor-fa-von-dia]

@@BigiBeef Agree Bigi there are loads of accessories available now, maybe we get more in Europe than the US! The Akra Carbon is a beast 1000 euros, the arrow sounds great but looks like a pea shooter and the SC Project looks good but sounds the same as stock. Trying to get a video of SC without the db killer.......

[@emanuelmarcos]

Arrow has a great sound,check it out.

[@senor-fa-von-dia]

@@emanuelmarcos but doesn't look that great

[@emanuelmarcos]

@@senor-fa-von-dia well it's not that bad, and defenetively sounds the best, when you change the exaust you wanna a good sound, that's the main reason, and I like the arrow style, for instance the SC looks fantastic and sounds crap, and the akra also looks weird and sounds average, about the look, if you want something nice or ok, stick with the original one, it looks pretty good...till now the arrow it's the best of both worlds, even better you got a termignoni slip-on that it's gr8 but it's not F900r exclusive.

[@woodworking4459]

Which one would you choose? Z900 2021, mt09 , f900r or ktm 890? Or I would like to see any suggestion. I had cb650f Thank you

[@PetroHead]

I will do a comparison.

[@woodworking4459]

@@PetroHead I am glad, I will hold your vídeo. I don’t know which one I should buy 😊. You are the best 👌🏻

[@jonathansummers3697]

I have almost 800 miles on mine and I never experienced a cold start yet. I live in Florida if you think that have anything to do with it. I would also like to get a better performance exhaust so please share info on that plus any other upgrades.

[@LoyalChauffeur]

Do you recommend this bike for a new rider?

[@PetroHead]

No.

[@theonlyDerp]

@@PetroHead i was actually considering this.. why not recommend it to a new rider?

[@PetroHead]

@@theonlyDerp Check out my other videos on the subject.

[@juliperez8315]

Have same problem with cold start, (750 miles).

[@BigiBeef]

Not sure i want to see this, my bike gets delivered in 2 weeks

[@lozv9974]

Not sure it took 15 mins for you to starting talking about the issues 🙄 anyway, you shouldn’t be using the quick shifter to go from 1st to 2nd gear it’s meant for knocking up quickly from 3rd, but you know that right 🤨

[@PetroHead]

Wrong. QS is just that.. to quickly shift. No issues with my Striple in 11 months regardless of RPM or gear. It’s the 2 cyl engines with high torque that’s the issue. Even BMW guys at the dealership admitted. The 890 duke suffers from the same issue which I addressed in my review.

[@Milen4u]

The bike has the cold start issue and it has been consistent with it right from the start. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJaln3-Jrqh1fdk I left it at the dealership once for a week and a second time on 28.9. Now it's 07.10 and they can't fix it. The support in Germany is not giving a solution only some superficial stuff and the answer is "we know about the problem". The mechanics are at a desperate trial and error/experimenting stage (swapping temp. sensor to see if it makes any difference) was the last thing. The issue is obvious to everyone and we already discussed it with the dealership - tunings for Euro 5 emissions which doesn't function in the real world. So BMW doesn't want to fix it because that would mean violating the homologation = paying fines. I am going to return the motorcycle and ask my money back.

[@tonydavis5053]

Should have bought a Triumph!

[@PetroHead]

I did

[@elisha5233]

Thnx for nice video ,,, but man is the problem still exist in 2022 F900R motorcycles? Since I planned to buy one in few days 🥹🥲

[@KamleshKumar-se2jt]

Put SC project

[@a1d2a3l4a5]

Wunderlich.de

[@AzizThe1]

just got my F900R and dropped it the second day and broke the clutch lever 🥲