INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE (02x05) *REACTION* "DON'T BE AFRAID, JUST START THE TAPE"

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[@brittanywallace6485]

Louis walked out into the sun, not because of Armand, but because of Claudia. Armand said Claudia never loved him, and that triggered a memory which caused him to try to commit suicide.

[@Mulbert]

When he said she was calling to him 😭😭

[@nickimillennium]

Yes, he said “she calling me” before he ran outside.

[@yourlittledogtoo]

Did you hear the birds in the background

[@yourvalentine3726]

​@yourlittledogtoo Schizophrenia is hereditary 😢

[@schuylerdevonish3117]

What's interesting is that Armand is even allowing Louis to delve this close to his compulsions I wonder if he is doing like he said to Louis and letting him write this book so Lestat will read it. This maybe most drawn out break up in human history.

[@hyjlsf]

honestly as a armand defender, the criticism for armand is valid. Don’t feel bad for criticizing him😭😭 he does deserve it sometimes

[@NyikoDoris]

Right like he’s my princess but she’s also sick in the head and needs some time in jail for some of her crimes😭

[@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396]

@@NyikoDorisDon’t they all? :)

[@NyikoDoris]

@@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 I think we should put Louis, Lestat and Armand UNDER a jail for differing variations of time depending on what crime they committed against Claudia…yeah Armand and maybe Lestat are never getting out from under that jail☹️

[@moonlily1]

Armand is fucked up to the core. But I'm not able to feel contempt or hate for the character. I still feel a certain sympathy for the character. Perhaps I wouldn't if he were played by someone different.

[@leticiamv]

All the characters on this show are fucked up and evil, good luck defending them...

[@maize_0]

This show should at least be popular among queer people like hugely popular. It’s so unapologetically gay. And yet it has such low viewership 😢 I need another season!!!!!

[@TaylorJohnson1]

I just looked at the stats and the viewership is so low, omg. We may not get a Season 3. :(

[@reira402]

Is it too low? Dammit, I want the third season come on

[@maize_0]

@@TaylorJohnson1 That is what I fear. It doesn’t have much marketing so right now I’m hoping and praying word-of-mouth will bring in more views cause this show is just too good.

[@EWYRF_YEUC]

Amc might as well just hire its viewers to promote this show because that’s basically how it’s going right now; i’ve hardly seen ANY promos from amc yet so much from the fans. amc is doing this show so dirty and it’s arguably one of the shows i’ve seen in awhile, i’d love for it to get a couple more seasons 😭

[@lorrainecouch6352]

OMG! Louis and Armand showed all the way out. Basically Armand is topping from the bottom. This epi was the chef's kiss. I so hope there is a season three. Read the vampire chronicles when I was a teen and this series could go ham if they did the deep dive. I'm hating that the ratings are so low. It's like the PR lost steam because of the COVID pause. I don't like getting attached to ish only to have it snatched away.☹️

[@stilesstilinski9640]

Not Armand playing Louis AND DANIEL like a flute in this episode. How dare he erase their memories.

[@oyami4444]

I think he had Louis consent in this. I might be wrong. But I feel like Armand is as lost as the rest of them. Otherwise he would not let thus interview happen in the first place. Just erase Louis memories about ever wanting the interview.

[@Gabreya]

The fact that Armand allowed Louis AND Daniel to physically suffer for days is BEYOND CRUEL due to anger and jealousy.

[@OhDamnItsPhe_]

I'm with you guys. Claudia's story is gut wrenching! The three adult vampires all have their tragedies, things to love and shortcomings BUT Claudia never stood a chance. From the mortal father who abandoned her with an evil aunt to the vampires that created her out of guilt and remorse only to choose each other time and time again. Oh my baby, I'm so sad for her 😭💔

[@fluorescent_shrimp]

What did she expect, for soulmates to choose her over each other? She's so selfish it's ridiculous

[@lawfulhusbands]

@@fluorescent_shrimp umm i dont care if my parents are each other's soulmates, they BETTER put me over the abusive parent like wtf this is basic parenthood 101

[@fluorescent_shrimp]

@@lawfulhusbands again, selfish bullshit Also, Lestat was no more abusive than Louis himself.

[@lawfulhusbands]

@@fluorescent_shrimp womp womp cry about it racist

[@exceptionallydistinctivedi481]

​@@fluorescent_shrimpwhat do you mean? If you had one abusive parent, wouldn't you want your other parents to choose you over them?

[@itswessums]

The tea in this episode was so scalding hot I’ll never be able to feel anything again 😭

[@zachbrehany2253]

Oh, and props to Daniel: only person to wreck a marriage twice in fifty years.

[@adrianneceleste5995]

The way every week I go "Oh this person gonna gun for the Emmy" for literally every character when they get their moment👏👏👏

[@HuntingViolets]

They filmed this in sequence, like a play. Even Sam Reid was there to record his offscreen lines.

[@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396]

It has a theater feel.

[@HuntingViolets]

Assad Zaman is riveting in this episode, though.

[@stephanie5257]

The “Lestat Lestat Lestat Lestat” part! Finally cracking and showing how irritated he’s always been. And when he was mocking Louie. 😅

[@HuntingViolets]

@@stephanie5257 And "Is that what makes you fascinating? . . . Is that what makes you fascinating?" to Daniel, with its anger and despair.

[@lowonfuel7614]

Honestly, as someone whose favorite characters are Claudia AND Armand, it’s a struggle out here 😭. I agree though, Armand DEFINITELY has jealousy issues, especially in the show from what I’ve seen. For society’s sake, I think it’s better if they all remain single haha 😅

[@yourlittledogtoo]

Remember episode one when Louis said he was surprised Daniel's book didn't mention him? When Daniel remembered what Louis had whispered to him and read Louis' words from his book and Louis didn't remember saying them because Armand wiped his memory.

[@LavenderViolet536]

The performances in this episode were absolutely outstanding across the board. Eric Bogosian brings such depth to Daniel. He is great with the snark and snappy one-liners, but he also showed in this episode (not for the first time) a depth of emotion that is fantastic. I think he often gets forgotten because of the talent of the other actors around him and the fact that their characters are flashier and fantastical- but he is just amazing as Daniel. Props also to Luke Brandon Field, who plays young Daniel. He is doing an incredible job of portraying a younger version of the character that reflects the performance of the actor playing present day Daniel. This show is so incredible, and I am so afraid that we won't be getting a Season 3. 😩 Come on, AMC- do us a solid and renew it.

[@actaccordingly6420]

Agree...that scene when Louis tainted Daniel about Alice saying no to his proposal was visceral. Daniel is bringing the emotion when not being a total snark.

[@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396]

I think AMC has too much invested in the Immortal Universe. Mayfair is coming back and I think few people liked it and there are at least two other projects in development under the name. I don’t think it’s going away.

[@LavenderViolet536]

@@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 🤞You're giving me hope! Thank you! 😀

[@LavenderViolet536]

@@actaccordingly6420 Absolutely! 😀

[@RainsChannel]

armand and daniels relationship is toxic and psychosexual as hell, this episode was the perfect start to that not gonna lie

[@TaylorJohnson1]

Louis looking ALMOST as bad as he did when Lestat beat the hell out of him. Louis likes beautiful chaos and Armand is not cutting it. Toxic. Also, are we going to get a 1970's Lestat cameo? I imagine him in Gucci.

[@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396]

Super Fly Lestat Pimp Style. But Louis was the pimp, so… :)

[@moonlily1]

I think Louis' the type of person who confuses drama with passion and gets restless with a partner who is content and doesn't want to pursue conflict, is eager to please you. That's his bullshit. Armand has a deep fear of being unwanted, unlovable, and desperately wants to please his partner, and Louis uses that to manipulate him emotionally, that's bullshit too. But Armand won't beat the shit out of his partner because he's jealous or rejected, he'll just punish him emotionally instead of hurting him physically; he won't hit you or yell at you, but he'll play some really fucked games with your head, and that's his bullshit. But, I can understand the motivation, if you had the power to just make your partner forget why they're mad at you, forget that thing you said that you can't take back, forget what they don't like about you, it would be hard to resist, wouldn't it? If you had the power to make your competition vanish off the face of the earth and not pay for it, you might be tempted.

[@stephanie5257]

The scream I scrumptttttttttt when Lestat spoke mind to mind with Armand!!!! That last “Louie!” and the desperation in his voice had me kicking my feet 😂 No one could ever make me hate Lestat ❤

[@pamelaboily4753]

They are all morally grey characters in the Vampire Chronicles it’s the whole point of……even Claudia in the end though yes her story is tragic

[@biancablast8153]

None of the vampires asked for their situation not even lestat!!

[@exist2rebel152]

Not even Akasha

[@PoppyJoplin]

#Preach this entire thread 🪡 gets it! 🥰😍

[@remholloway2579]

Magnus did

[@cullenarthur8879]

​@@remholloway2579very true. The one vampire we know of that actually captured a vampire to steal it's blood to become a vampire. Funny enough, he ended up destroying himself. I guess he had enough of the vampire experience.

[@116ohmygosh]

Except for Louis n yet he hates it the most

[@TezzyDE]

People being upset about how u were mad at Armand for threatening Claudia is crazy. Claudia deserves the world😥

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

Exactly¡!!!

[@evenstarari]

The Louis and Armand dynamic is like continuous marriage and divorce vibes! 😮 the argument was so brutal I was speechless. It also was Assad's first day on set!! Insane talent from him, Jacob, Luke and Eric like woah!🤯 Daniel being so much more intertwined in their story than even he knew added such a richness to his character and the overall story. All going back to memory is a monster ❤ Also, please keep reacting 🙏🏼 I'm not too into the fandom but I love watching reviews and reactions to this show bc its one of my faves and I feel its so underrated ❤ You both provide some comedic relief to what can be rough moments in the show. I would hope people can watch and love it even if there are differing opinions about the story, characters, etc. As a Claudia fan, I know we're going back to Paris and I'm so not ready 😭

[@LoLovesLife]

There are no heroes in this story. We connect to the characters that speak to us and that's fine. Louis, Claudia, Lestat, Daniel, and Armand have all done horrific things. Anne isn't known for making characters that black and white. They're all shades of grey. That being said, I hope you guys keep reacting to Interview. We need people to keep talking about the show!

[@anylove370]

Except those aren't Anne's characters. I know she created them, but Louis especially is very different from the one she wrote and later got bored with. Louis is the titular vampire here, it's mostly his story being told, which matters when it comes to how sympathetic he is portrayed. I'm not saying that there are heroes and villains in the show, they are after all vampires who feed on humans and thus monsters by definition, but the show is pretty clearly showing how Louis and Lestat and Louis and Armand's relationship are abusive, how both these men thrive on controlling and isolating Louis and causing him harm under the guise of love

[@LoLovesLife]

If you feel differently that's fine but to me these will always be Anne's characters. It wasn't simply boredom that drove the changes to Louis in later books. Anne was processing the enormous grief of her child's passing when she wrote IWTV. She didn't take a methodical, linear method to her storytelling and that's part of the beauty of her work. The show has done a fantastic job at pulling inspiration from the entire catalog of the Vampire Chronicles and at mirroring the ways in which Anne would continue to change and develop her characters as she continued to change as an individual. As far as the relationships I agree. The show is showing us that all of the relationships are flawed in their own ways while also being compelling, passionate, thrilling, and toxic all at once.

[@user-ym9by9bm3i]

@@LoLovesLifeyou so right, thank you you for get it❤️❤️👏👏

[@leticiamv]

Exactly, I think Daniel is the least guilty lol

[@HuntingViolets]

I was on Claudia's side last week. Just because she joined the company doesn't mean she should have to play that same part forever. Let Claudia play film noir. Let her have fun. Louis was not much help last week either. This was the first episode filmed for this season, as they wanted to give Delainey time to develop her character.

[@actaccordingly6420]

I "felt" this episode. Most times I watch something , i feel separate from it , but this episode got me emotionally. I find Rashid/Armand absolutely fascinating...i think its his age...500 years old, immensly powerful and yet the tenderest of them all. Louis is the heart of the story and eveyones' attempts to keep him happy makes them misreable. Claudia is tragic but she keeps fighting for her happy ending. Lestat is the fire, the spark that we can't keep our eyes off of. Daniel is our lens and our humnaity. Im with Claudia, I love everything and everybody. AMC+ keep it coming.

[@stephanie5257]

The books are sooo good. I hope you read them if you haven’t already. I read them a little over 20 years ago when I was in high school and this show is making me want to do a reread. ❤

[@raestone4270]

Cycles of abuse repeating over and over.

[@Neithie]

It broke me when he said he heard Claudia and then ran outside into the sun... god i am so afraid for her. I'm sure they were trying to drive her mad on purpose.

[@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396]

I didn’t hear that in the audio, I thought he just ran out there because of the drugs in his blood from Daniel.

[@seansmith4880]

This has to be the best episode of Season 2 yet.

[@ThandoNdlovu-zr3ld]

Armand is actor Assad is so Freaking Good, both of Daniel's Actors too Eric and Luke killed it 👌👌😍😍

[@Gabreya]

@ThandoNdlovu-zr3ld ABSOLUTELY. They really killed it in this episode. 👍🏿

[@davidgalland3070]

that nystagmus eye flicker of Armand throwing yound dan up and dwn weebed me right the fk out watching this alone in the dark

[@SonyaFlynn]

*SPOILER* i just realized armand saunters in wearing maliks glasses lmao

[@antiqone]

5:25 "So, am I the first guy that you've brought back here?" "The fifth." Chey: "Which he's pleading." 😌

[@chocolatemilklover8532]

I think the reason why armand was ready to tell Louis where lestat is and vice versa is because like you said he knows deep down inside no matter how much he tries louis heart belongs to lestat. But once lestat asked him to tell louid that he loved him, armand fear of being alone again and want for affection and attention kicked in again so he was unable to do so.

[@yourlittledogtoo]

I think Armand was taunting Louis with the information that he knows where Lestat is. The motive that the whole reason Louis wants to write the book is so that Lestat sees it and seeks him out is such an insult that Armand now wants to hurt Louis and in return he taunting Lestat with the knowledge that he is with Louis.

[@anylove370]

He wasn't ready at all, it was a ploy. If he was sincere in his offer he wouldn't have done it when Louis is injured and relying on him to survive/heal

[@claireelyse5992]

Yeah Armand is “a” bad guy for sure, but I don’t think that he is “the” bad guy. You can’t have a clear-cut villain with characters as complex and amazing as this show has written them to be. I think all this show is asking us to do is to be open to having complex feelings about the characters and their actions, and be open to seeing both the good and the bad in people. I know Armand is terrible, but I love when he does evil things! He’s my favorite manipulative gremlin! But I also find him wildly sympathetic and entertaining. Everyone is both a hero and a villain, depending on who’s telling the story. And they’re vampires! They’ve got all the time in the world to do good things, bad things, and questionable things. Thanks for reacting to the show, guys!

[@Cool_beansmh]

What I like is that this confirms that we dont know how much Armand had messed with Louis memories. Yall are holding onto the first season of Lestat despite knowing Louis is an unreliable narrator and that Claudias diaries arent 100% true. Even Armands version of Lestat doesnt make sense. I hope we get a third season with Lestats pov. No matter what tho Louis and Lestat are fated to be together. They are soulmates. It was classic case of right person but wrong time. Season 2 louis is more aligned with doing things similar to Lestat and is more carefree. He wasnt ready to handle Lestat back then but now he is. Maybe we will get an appearance in Paris when Louis and Claudia are on trial.

[@NyikoDoris]

But what would make Lestat’s version the best version? Everyone sees people and themselves differently. Louis might not believe he whines but to Armand, he loves throwing a pity party. Armand might not think himself bad for erasing Louis memories of San Francisco but instead as a compassionate lover who took the painful memory of a suicide attempt away from Louis however Louis would see it as an unforgivable betrayal of his trust in their relationship and his own mind. There’s no character who can tell a completely unbiased and 100% true story because they are telling THEIR story. If anyone has some semblance of being the closest to ‘reliable’ on how Lestat’s torture felt, it’s Claudia’s diaries because they were meant for HER. Not to be a cautionary tale. Not to set the record straight. They were just her thoughts on the situation she found herself in and even then she would obviously paint the parent who was nurturing in a better light as a child, even after he chose his partners over her (Louis) because she felt unwanted her whole human life vs the parent who himself was raised terribly and continues the crude parenting that reminds her of her human family (Lestat)

[@Cool_beansmh]

@@NyikoDoris I never said Lestats pov would be the best just that it would flesh out his character in a way that no one else can do. Get inside his head the way we have with Louis, Armand, and Claudia. We are able to connect to everyone better because of it except Lestat. He’s only been painted as a bad guy which is far from true. All these characters are meant to be gray. No one is innocent or purely good, not even Claudia. I disagree about Armand erasing Louis memories even if it was his suicide attempt. Its a different level of desperation and control. Hes not even getting the real Louis, the one with all the memories and CHOOSES him. He erased the fact Armand reached out to Lestat and the emotions it stirred in Louis. He manipulated him to staying with him all the way up until Dubai. If he has to erase memories to not let Louis think too deep about his feelings then thats not love. Hes desperate and knows he will never truly be loved. Armand hasnt shown he can love, just that he cant be alone. Thats why he stuck with the coven for so long bc he has nothing better going for him. Hes almost a borderline villain tbh. And this episode has us wondering what other memories he has messed with, how far back does the manipulation go? Also, Claudia hated Lestat ever since she killed Charlie in season 1 so her diaries were also incredibly biased against him. I like how this season showed that her diaries arent completely true. That she exaggerates and doesnt always mean what she writes. Just emotions in the moment. The best a viewer can do is see all povs and piece together their own opinion. Thats why I say we need Lestats.

[@NyikoDoris]

@@Cool_beansmh and you know what? I hope you guys do get that third season and get to have Lestat tell his side, but what you need to maybe know is because some things were adapted in a different way for the show so ‘unreliable narrator’ now goes from “maybe this person is remembering a few things a bit differently than they happened” to “they are lying 100%, Lestat is the only one with the TRUTH.” I assumed that’s what your point was and I shouldn’t have done that but that’s the vibe a lot of people have about iwtv, that they just biding their time until they get to Lestat “telling us the truth” and it’s put me on the defensive. I am apologizing for assuming that’s what you meant.

[@Cool_beansmh]

@@NyikoDoris Yeah i think its because book readers are hoping the show will adapt more than just the first book. Since the show is covering small amounts of other books so its like a tease. Lestat is a fan fav for a reason so of course majority are gonna want a pov season or at least episode for him. His book was the most popular for a reason. Obviously the show is changing a good amount so no one is expecting exact adaptations. Im not a book reader tho, its just everything said and shown about him has been very biased. Again no one is good, in fact to a degree they are all evil since they are vamps after all. Idk why you seem slighted that ppl like his character so much. If we are talking books, hes on par with the same morals as louis but louis doesnt know this since he cant read his mind. Show wise, stuff just doesnt add up. Again, as a viewer we need all povs and make our own conclusions that way. Idk why you seem against getting his pov. Its just more world building if we do get it. Without lestat we dont get more storylines from the book that are more interesting than louis life. Like Queen of the damned with Akashas character (the one aaliyah played in the movie). I just like the universe that came from the first book, and with this show we have a chance to see more adapted with the tweaks the show created. I just want more of this show and not just only louis story. Hes one of the more dull vamps when you tap into the vamp world. Even claudia is more interesting despite her story being short.

[@NyikoDoris]

@@Cool_beansmh and again I’m apologizing for making an assumption about you. I think the reason I’m so defensive/protective over Loumandia to an extent is because, you know, on for example the CW they would cast people of color and like the main character is while there is racist rhetoric regarding those people of color and their social media crew will not call out the blatant racism the character/actors face when they are in a race-swapped role. I understand that It’s not your fault that I have trauma from my former long-term-hostage- situation with The Flash and their disregard for their black female lead. And on top of that, Lestat simply isn’t a character I particularly enjoy but I hope you have fun with the rest of the season🫶🏾

[@lovelaced]

no like armand literally left louis lying burned alive and suffering for DAYS after a suicide attempt without helping him..

[@inallthechaos2774]

What are you talking about "without helping him"? He literally risked his himself following him out into the sun to pull him back inside, made sure he got to a safe dark place, cleaned up the aftermath of his drug bender with the boy he brought back from the gay bar, supplied him with enough blood to get better, *and* reached out to the person Louis transparently holds in his heart above others. Sweety, what more did you want him to do?

[@lovelaced]

@@inallthechaos2774 mb i didn’t mean nothing nothing! i meant that he didn’t put louis in his coffin to heal faster, even when louis was begging him to and clearly in agony

[@drenx7454]

don't worry about saying what you guys are thinking. This is your reaction not someone else's. ITS YOUR OPINION!!!!!

[@hypertwink]

Eric Bogosian & his character Daniel are very underrated on this show. One tends to not notice his performance, especially beside the 4 main vampires.

[@Gabreya]

@hypertwink You’re absolutely right. Eric Bogosian is AWESOME as Daniel Malloy. I’ve always liked him in the role. He’s charismatic, lowkey hilarious, and fervent.

[@geminihexx9858]

23:57 yall, this is Anne Rice, its gothic horror. Every single character is morally grey, that is the point, its supposed to make you uncomfortable- that’s the point of her books, yes the characters are enjoyable and you can root for and against them, but none of them can be considered morally good, not Louis, not Lestat, not Claudia, not Armand, hell not even Daniel I’m sure the more you get into the series you’ll understand tho - I’ve just been a fan for over 20 years at this point lol (read the books when I was 12 😅)

[@misslrkr]

The drama in this show is so great! So is the acting!

[@moonlily1]

I think women would be less vulnerable to vampires because we ALREADY have it in our head that if we go home with a stranger you might never leave. That rarely ever occurs to men.

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

Being more on guard doesn't mean you would be less vulnerable, though? Just because you're more defensive doesn't mean you would be in less danger?

[@moonlily1]

@@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241 If they had their sights on you, there wouldn't be much you could do about it. But we're less likely to just go home with some dude on the spot. We're already taught not to get isolated in public because of potential predators, men aren't thinking that way. There will simply be more men than women in general wandering about on their own at night.

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

@moonlily1 When you put it like that, I understand it, I thought you were claiming it would be LESS dangerous for women than men.

[@moonlily1]

@@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241 Although, to be fair, these are some exceptionally good looking men, and a lot of women would choose to take the chance for someone THAT hot. If Assad Zaman asked me to go home with him, assuming I wasn't picking up any bad vibes or red flags, I probably would.

[@DancingDre37]

Armand is Sadistic. He is torturing BOTH Lestat ( For being left behind) and Louis (For constantly obsessing over Lestat) because he knows Louis still loves him.

[@Gabreya]

@DancingDre37 Don’t forget that he also tortured Nicholas AND Daniel.

[@fallingawayfromthenorm]

I was audibly gasping and screeching during this episode last night, I was so excited to see your reactions! I’m sad to hear that some comments on your precious reaction video were so bad, I hope they’re better on this one 🖤🖤🖤

[@androd1279]

I'm so sorry that you guys have to sit here and explain yourselves simply for having reactions to fictional characters. You have every right to enjoy media how you want and I hate that people were leaving comments attacking you both over a television show. I love Armand, he's screwed up like all of them, and I love him still, but your feelings are valid. Just like some feelings toward Louis, Lestat, Daniel, and Claudia are valid. I really enjoy your reactions and keep doing what you are doing! Never change.

[@kev121]

I love your pointing out Claudia’s being the saddest story. She lived with an abusive aunt, then with an abusive Lestat, an abusive Bruce, then the coven. Lestat made her knowing the rules against turning a child because their minds ultimately wouldn’t be able to handle living out eternity in a child’s body, as a way of still controlling and manipulating Louis. And she was important to Louis as long as her existence made him feel the drama and toxicity he’s addicted to. Never was she a priority in her own right, except with Charlie. And because Lestat intentionally did not teach her (nor Louis) how to control herself and harness her powers, disaster was inevitable.

[@Gabreya]

@kev121 Hence why Louis will forever live with the immense guilt of not appreciating, valuing, and protecting Claudia. That’s why in this episode, he tried to take his own life. He knows that it will always be his fault for bringing her into vampirism by having Lestat turn her into a monstrous creature for his own benefit because he couldn’t control his own anger and actions.

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

​@Gabreya Exactly! And Louis did turn Claudia for selfish reasons!

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

Yeah, Lestat really didn't teach them anything! And it's all falling apart now

[@Gabreya]

@@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241 He really did. Even though we saw a somewhat different version of events in the DEVASTATING episode seven, it still stands that Claudia was made for selfish reasons. Also, the fact that Louis was begging Lestat to turn her into a vampire while literally dragging her nearly lifeless body behind him is UNREAL. Lestat never truly wanted her and only tolerated her while Louis treated her like a baby doll yet didn’t value her feelings. As Claudia said during episode seven, it was never about her.

[@Gabreya]

@@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241 You know what? I have a small theory that almost all of the vampires in this universe don’t have any true comprehension skills and common sense. Despite having incredible abilities such as super speed and telepathy, thinking properly and making rational decisions are not their strong points. Think about it. They generally keep making bad decision after bad decision after bad decision, and they seem almost surprised when things get much worse for them. And that especially goes for Louis. It’s like a lot of them are not mentally and emotionally intelligent.

[@nkechi4635]

Love that y'all are Claudia stans. She deserves far, far better

[@fluorescent_shrimp]

No she doesn't ❤ She's the worst of them all

[@PettyPumpkins]

Hmm.. Starting to think you’re the worst of them all LmAo

[@NATHANIELJELKS-PLANEJANE-FAN]

This Season Is Really Wild, Sad That It's Almost Over, But The Show Just Got Greenlit For A 3rd Season, I'm So Excited Can't Wait To See What's Going To Happen In That Season, But Also Intrigued To See What Happens In The S2 Finale On The 30th Of This Month

[@pamelaboily4753]

You may not like morally grey characters but have you realize yet that All the characters are morally grey in Anne Rice’s world?

[@Sarahlancey]

I’m sure that they realize it and understand it (their “complexities”) which is why they (& I) don’t like morally grey characters. Disliking them doesn’t stop one from appreciating the narrative and different aspects this type of character brings to a story.

[@littlefoxglove276]

nah, i get what they're saying here. a lot of morally grey characters - that's the majority of their characterization. they do "bad" shit, they angst about it or repress/hide that angst, they go on to redeem themselves or they go on to continue the old cycle. like personally i find that compelling enough but in other instances i've also grown tired of it reeeal quick. and this show simply doesn't have the space to work with the concept that multiple books did (to the point that people were attacking these guys' characters just bc they criticized their fictional faves??)

[@giladadadada1614]

it’s ok for ppl to need time to adjust to that

[@Gabreya]

@pamelaboily4753 Most of them are morally gray. Armand is making it difficult to refer to him as morally gray.

[@chelseabellamy6993]

I'm not surprised Armand wiped Louis' memory. He was pulling some Lestat sh$t. Armand was torturing him too. He left him in a bed for days with 3rd degree burns when he could've just put him in his coffin from the start so he could heal. He made him listen to everything he was doing to Daniel. I wonder what other unfavorable events he wiped Louis' memory of? What really happened to Claudia, perhaps. Now everybody knows to NEVER call Armand boring. 😨

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

Yup! Armand is sick!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂

[@seansmith4880]

I think the inciting incident that got Daniel attacked in the first interview was saying all the worst things about Louis that Louis already was thinking about Armand. Like living for so long you become boring and stagnant.

[@ske8254]

Louis is that friend that break's up with the guy, but spends every moment annoying everyone around them talking/ complaining about that same guy. I just love poor broken Louis. He is just really deep down wants Lestat to come rescue him from Armand. BTW, Jacob’s performances are amazing this season. He is able to make you fall in love, hate, be upset, feel sorry for and every other emotion for Louis. This is superb acting.

[@HuntingViolets]

It's okay. Just say what you think. I saw a reaction earlier and they thought Armand was restrained for the situation, so there are all kinds of viewpoints. That's wild that people were that upset with you.

[@AnxietyRat]

Yeah it's interesting how some people think that Armand didn't go far enough and was restraining himself and others that think that Armand just went fully unhinged and WASN'T restraining himself as much... It's interesting that people can have different viewpoints and assessments of the same show. That's why I watch reactions. To see the show through the eyes of someone else. In a way.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@AnxietyRat Yes, it's so interesting.

[@iwillcry]

was it syntell? because i love his reactions, and i loved his stand on armand. but its interesting to hear different perspectives even if i disagree with them.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@iwillcry Yes. I'm not criticizing the take, mind you, just saying it's interesting how different people react.

[@amandataylor8067]

These two guys are utterly speechless the look of shock on their faces is hilarious 😂

[@tamebaker7888]

How no one realized yet that Armand made up that he saved Daniel? Initially he stopped him, but the memory that was wiped showed otherwise

[@NyikoDoris]

How? He DID save him initially because Louis was going to drain Daniel and pass out from the drugs in his blood when Armand zoomed in and split them up…and then Louis saved Daniel when he stopped Armand from luring him into his ‘restful arms’ and gave him the advice that kept him going throughout his life. When they call him ’our boy’ it’s because both have bitten and saved him🤷🏾‍♀️

[@tamebaker7888]

@@NyikoDoris The only difference is Armand deceived Louie into thinking he was Daniel's one and ONLY savior and didn't get to live in his truth. Armand was NEVER going to tell the truth to his partner, it was only by miracle they had found pieces to this rabbit hole. There's no telling how many lies Armand manipulated on him in order to keep him with him. He was caught in 1 lie so far. BTW I like Armand, but my theory is Armand brainwashes Louie into thinking he's perfect, wash away every huge and ugly fight-- it's why he calls him boring, he makes things perfect by wiping away the ugly (that recording is proof)

[@NyikoDoris]

@@tamebaker7888 oh your original post made it seem like he lied completely about that instead of he didn’t give the full context. So you meant he lied by omission? yeah I mean it’s true. I think the two of them should just pay for that old man’s therapy. And they should also go see a immortal marriage counsellor My belief in why he wiped Louis memory of this and maybe potentially any other fight is it’s a trauma response. When he was in slavery and being abused I’m sure that the only way he could get the minimum of horrors was to be “perfect” so I took it as more in his mind if he’s perfect and goes above and beyond then the person he loves will have no reason to get rid of him and by not getting rid of him that means they love him… It’s very fucked up and sad… and the fact that he also made it everyone else’s problem is fucked up😭😮‍💨

[@tamebaker7888]

@@NyikoDoris THIS! I definitely see why he does it if it's consistent, even if it's morally wrong, none of them have a leg to stand on when it comes to that. But that doesn't mean Louie won't be pissed, hurt, and betrayed by Armand. I don't know what to compare what he's doing to Louis to.... Pretty much their whole relationship is a lie IF he's doing what I think he's doing. It's pretty much becoming a diminishing return. The opposite starts to happen when it's too perfect and not enough fat lol

[@NyikoDoris]

@@tamebaker7888 I truly don’t believe that he could really learn Louis when he was busy withholding himself if that makes sense? And I think Louis’s feeling of betrayal will come more not from the act itself, but for the fact that it was done without his consent. Louis feels wary about the very powerful vampires he attracts and so for him to think Armand has been honest with him about relinquishing control for 77 years only to find out that no, when Armand felt like it he would take away the power Louis felt I think that’s what is gonna fuck him up. not the act, the fact that his mind was fucked with without his consent by his second husband after his body was broken by his first husband

[@dcemerald70]

This episode was literally one of the most emotional, impactful, and best out of this season. It really was a great change to show us the past in their previous interview. We know Lestat can be such a manipulative narcissist, yet Armand was no better. I really think in this moment that both Louis and Daniel realized they’re more than friends but kindred spirits. 🧛🏾🧛🏽🧛🏻‍♂️👨🏻‍🦱👨🏻‍🦳🩸⚰️🖤

[@thaladyloves]

This episode was epic! ❤️‍🔥💯 It’s not really that Armand is boring, he was clearly a rebound. Louis truly loves Lestat. (Lestat isn’t what you think he is, we haven’t seen the true Lestat yet.) All of this is about Louis’ sadness about Claudia and longing for Lestat. I don’t wanna ruin it for those that don’t know but there’s SO many layers. Louis only has half of the truth and Armand is bat sh!t crazy, a manipulative liar too. But I do feel bad for Armand in a way. He’s an extremely sad and broken character. I cannot wait for my guy Lestat to come with his truth in the 3rd season The Vampire Lestat. There’s soooo much more… 👀

[@antimateria.mp4]

okay so!!! i've just found this channel because i loved this episode sooo much i had to see reactions for it my take is that even though i loooove armand, i totally get why you both don't like him lmaooo i think he was created to be hated by many, and of course the things he does are not okay, even if in these circumstances he's been really hurt. i think what strikes me as fascinating about him is how much power he has, but because of his own mentality he can't seem to get it together, stuck in this place where before, he was a slave and didn't have any control and now that he's one of the most powerful vampires and has so much control over things (including daniel and louis' memories) that he doesn't really know how to handle that. from his almost relationship with lestat, to his theater company to his marriage to louis, nothing works and everyone leaves. if these characters had access to therapy this would be a very short tv show

[@hollyvanwye9294]

In The Vampire Lestat (Book 2) it's said that all his life Armand has been a slave/addict to something. First to his early religious faith, later to Marius his Maker, and after that to the Children of Satan. What we're seeing now in the show is yet another phase of the cycle: Armand's enslavement/addiction to Louis. He can't break free of this toxic relationship because Louis is his current drug of choice. And that's a big reason why why in Book 2 Lestat, not wanting to be that, ran away from Armand!

[@sm_3265]

Such an incredible episode. I’ve rewatched it a couple of times just for Armand and Louis argument. Love the mess! The drama!!

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

"Morally Vicious" 😂😂😂 Yeah

[@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396]

I didn’t know why Armand was so up at arms about the interview, but not over the photography of vampires Louis was doing or the vampire theater he himself ran.

[@tabstyle01]

This episode was everything!!! Thanks for the reaction

[@oyami4444]

Break up - is not an advice you can give to 2 vampires. They literally have noone else in the whole universe. And everything they knew is long gone.

[@plumblossomed]

I love Armand. He's probably my favorite character, due to how messed up he is--his psychological complexity. And in saying he's my favorite, that's not me condoning a lot of his choices, it's just me saying I find him insanely compelling, and so beautiful to watch (Assad Zaman is amazing). IMO Armand's primary motivating force is a fear of abandonment. So I think that he is basically always weighing every choice by what is going to ensure that he doesn't have to be alone in life. Even if that means trading one relationship for another, or securing backups that he can keep in the background until he needs them. And if faced with two relationship choices, one that is of questionable security, and one that seems more of a sure thing, he will always choose the more secure (in his opinion) one. You've already watched all of season 2, so I'm sure you saw this later on in Paris, and after the big reveal about Armand's role in everything. Armand just places relational security on this pedestal. It is the most important thing to him, and he will degrade and subjugate himself and/or manipulate and destroy others if that is what it takes for him to maintain those relationships. I also think this is why I'm so compelled by the idea of him and older Daniel being a thing. Older Daniel is a mirror who mercilessly forces Armand to see the truth of himself, and breaks through his deceptions of others, and that is extremely uncomfortable for Armand, but I also think it is compelling for him. In Armand's past he has always been nothing but a vessel onto which people project whatever they want him to be, but Daniel 'sees' him, and at his current age Daniel is also not really will to put up with B.S.. He's seen and knows all of Armand's motivations and little tricks. Armand can no longer play those games with Daniel. So this is me keeping my fingers crossed for some Devil's Minion in S3, or S4.

[@nolasalazar]

You are not being too hard on Armand. He deserves worse. Armand is a liar and extreme manipulator. If you didn’t like how he treated Claudia last week, you’ll hate him for what he does to her in the books. I’m not sure if the writers will take it to that level but it’s seriously sadistic.

[@Glo419]

So much to say....First lol of the episode, ‘breaking into the library, hypnotise security, as one does, to lay down & look at the ceiling.’ Daniel: Hot. LMAO Loved Daniel’s example of syntax….Louis is circling something he doesn’t want to say. In 1973-Daniel really seemed like he was hot for Louis & expected to have sex with him. I defintely don’t like the cutting away scenes. Did the two of them lose time or did someone make them forget what happened next? Daniel seriously thought they had sex so Louis asked him if he wanted to now lol I wish he answered him! He was offering something off the menu. I have to praise Luke Brandon Field as young Daniel. He looks so much like older Daniel! I saw an interview that Eric Bogosian didn’t know that Luke as watching him work while he was preparing to be the younger Daniel. His mannerisms, the way he speaks, everything. And they’re not even related, amazing! “Are you the Zodiac killer?!” Hahaha cuz he shows him his fangs? What a scene when he asks for ‘the gift’. Daniel is all hyped up on cocaine, pills & whatever else. “Give it to me” Oh nooooooo that did it. I would think that Louis would be ‘old’ enough to have more control over himself. The berating between Louis & Armand was awful. They were so cruel to each other. Boring, dull, beige, so hurtful. I think Louis has always been mentally crippled & never should have been turned. Yes, he drank from a drugged up Daniel so it all was in his system, talking to himself then going suicidal. God, that looked painful!!! His skin literally falling off his body. The make-up in this series Is epic! The writing, the acting, the editing, everything! What is AMC doing, not promoting this Show? These actors need to be recognized! Armand is such a jealous person. All he wanted was to be loved & have security in his life becuz of his abusive backstory. So, of course, he grew up super needy. What did Armand mean by, asking Daniel, “I’ve been calling for you for some time?” What??? For what? Why?? So it definitely seems like Armand manipulated both of Louis & Daniel’s memories. Louis looked so pissed when Armand comes back, after his ‘lunch’. My new favorite episode!

[@Mulbert]

I thought he meant more like he was the personification of death that had been calling to him, when he was trying to get him to give in to being bitten.

[@psychedelicpegasus7587]

Armand's line about "calling" Daniel refers to how canonically he finds his victims. He says he calls to those who are suffering and already long for death. As though he is doing something merciful. From this scene it looks like he uses the Mind Gift to convince his victims. By carving through their thoughts and memories to find what he needs to bring about these kind of thoughts. Why the charade? It reminds me of Claudia's line calling Louis on his BS: "Is that what you tell yourself yourself?".

[@AnxietyRat]

I think when Armand says "I've been calling to you for a very long time" he's meaning his role as death... That ENTIRE conversation they're talking in metaphors for how death will feel... So death is what has been calling to Daniel. Not that Armand has been psychically calling to him. Though, I understand why that conversation may have been misinterpreted as such.... But it just does not make sense if you're thinking he's literally been calling to Daniel.

[@whatadollslife]

@@psychedelicpegasus7587 but isn't that just Armand stealing Santiagos "thing/skill"

[@remholloway2579]

@@whatadollslifeSantiago is a mimic. What he does is kinda shallow compared to what Armand is presenting in this scene. Even though this is ghastly his monologue is presented as tender, loving, kind even. A sort of peace. He is the angle of death so to speak. Santiago on the other hand when he does it, it kind of comes off as a bit cold, removed. It’s no less captivating; but the feelings both evoke are completely distinct.

[@nirvanaqueens]

Just like the books, after the Paris incident any emotions Louis had for Armand left

[@bratty_vamp]

Armand obviously erased louis memory....

[@user-luciddream]

say what you want to say! the comments shouldn’t stop you from saying your opinion. people can be crazy. armand heard louis call daniel more interesting than him and he was like “bet?” and tortured daniel.

[@tvaddict6623]

Amazing episode omg

[@Melanie-jy2nw]

Don’t listen to anyone mad that you’re protective of your favourite character. Everyone does it and to pretend otherwise is hypocritical. My favourite is Daniel so I’m protective of him 😅

[@beccajane209]

Listen I understand hating characters and such. I regularly shout at my laptop screen when watching this show. But if you struggle with morally grey characters you're gonna struggle with this universe. All the main characters are both hero and villain, good and evil, saviours and killers. All of them you love and hate. It's something you're gonna have to try at cause these characters are so flawed and complex that you have to love and hate them all. They've all done bad. Also love that you keyed into the devil's Minion chemistry (Daniel & Armand)! Armand is a tragic feral gremlin that I love and despise, like most of the characters haha. Assad is phenomenal, as is Jacob. All the actors are. Loving your reactions! ❤

[@myridean2k4]

For Armand, Daniel was the straw that broke the camel's back. What was that insane number that he quoted which was more than 5 guys he stepped out to have sex and feed although sometimes more than a few died along the way. Armand was in a relationship with a drug addict who had a tendency t be abusive. Armand cleaned up after him. And ultimately, Louis was not only sexually unfaithful but emotionally when learning that Louis still cared about Lestat. Hate is still a form of caring. Louis was basically treating Armand in the '70s as Lestat was treating Louis in the '20s & '30s. Louis' Daniel might've ended up being like Lestat's Antoinette.

[@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396]

Armand had so much trauma, he just wanted a calm home life. Louis needs that weird mix of abuse and excitement. But then Armand used violence at his breaking point, not giving Louis blood. So, I guess Louis got his excitement. That is really messed up when you think about it, that Louis wants violence more than peace.

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

It's cause of the life Louis had before. His mom was emotionally abusive, and he has Catholic guilt due to his religious upbringing.

[@annaherebia7127]

The thing with the fact that they ARE VAMPIRES is the excuse to talk about human feelings in a xtreme, exagerated way. The big subjects are the clasic ones: fear of death, dont want to be alone, gealousy, ethernity, codependence, limits of morality, self searching, etc. BUT, we have main characters with unlimited budget, powers, killers by nature, constantly overdosed, with TIME to see the world changes, the cercle of life and the meaningless of it all, in a way that a human never could. (Sorry for my bad english)

[@online2000.]

favvv ep this season

[@eldritchbaobun9976]

Now I wanna know what those other comments are, because imagine going to war for Armand, lol, those people must not have read the books...

[@NyikoDoris]

Oh, I didn’t say anything shitty to them but I would definitely go to war for Armand like yeah she’s committed *numerous* crimes against humanity…but he looked good doing it! and I’m talking about show Armand. Book canon and show canon are two different things so for show Armand, I’m gonna stand by my cancelled wife🙂‍↕️

[@eldritchbaobun9976]

@@NyikoDoris Lmao, fair enough. But I'd wager show!Armand is more like book!Armand than we yet know!

[@rowanjoy419]

I agree with you guys, Anne Rice wrote this story because of Claudia, before Louis, before Lestat, the point of the story was the dead of her 5 year old girl that inspire her, so Claudia deserve all the love. Louis lost his little brother and his family turn on him, Claudia was always meant to be the replacement for that, just like in real life Anne Rice try to replace the void her daughter left on her, but just like Claudia, her daughter will remain a little girl forever and the best is to let her go to rest in peace.

[@CocaInn3799]

Try not to listen to the hate. I love Armand (I only read the books in which he appears xD), but I love your commentaries so much!! You can't and shouldn't agree with everyone. Thanks and looking forward to the next ^^

[@MarthadelPilarMoreno]

One thing I just noticed after rewatching this severl times, Daniel is the second one to recognize that what Louis feels for Lestat is love, and in a way the first time Louis admited it, sort of.

[@luuhsuzuki]

Just found out your channel and I already have all your other iwtv videos lined up to watch right now, I love the way you pause every now and then to discuss something a bit further instead of leaving all the comments to the end, never noticed that's what I've been looking for in reaction videos! Great comments and observations, love that you guys love Claudia as well, I think many people kinda push her aside to focus on the louis-armand-lestat love triangle but even that makes her so much more tragic, she's always on the sidelines of other people's stories, as if her own story mattered less. I didn't love her as much in the movie, but amc Claudia might be my favorite iwtv character

[@hiagonunes6806]

Armand torturing Daniel, finally real romance is back

[@reira402]

I'm sorry, but i found funny seeing people being shock by these characters, my absolute favorite characters will always be lestat and Armand, and i will NEVER hate them for the evil things they do, because they're monsters, I don't see them as a would see a human character yk, and the point of the show is this, monsters doing the most terrible things ever and yet, feeling strong emotions, they're similar to us, but not like us at all, and that's the beauty of things, I want to see their absolute worse

[@mitch1833]

Armand is about to go through some things.

[@NYerCarl]

I wonder if the memory wipe for both of them was to prevent the book from having been published in 1973, or was a more devious reason for that? So many questions are still left unanswered.

[@niyah7139]

I understand Armand's reasoning, but he's just so pathetic that I just can't. alter rating someone's memories just so they can be in a relationship with you is next level. I would rather be held hostage and beaten to death than have my entire personality altered to someone else's liking

[@brittanywallace6485]

I feel like that the reason why he altered their memories is going to be something none of us can guess. I feel there’s a huge curveball coming up. But either way he is highly insecure.

[@cullenarthur8879]

I don't think Armand altered Louis memory to be more to his liking, I think he thinks he's trying to spare him painful and traumatic memories for his own good.

[@NyikoDoris]

Why does it have to be I’d rather my partner is physically abusive or my partner is mentally abusive? What happened to vampire therapy?😭

[@obehiikhigbonoaremen1241]

@@NyikoDoris Vampire therapy? Lol. Maybe the new generation will come up with it? 😂

[@elisebarger8337]

It's probably because all the therapist ended up drained.

[@bhh6662]

I feel like Louis sees Armand’s protectiveness as withholding him from the thrill.

[@yourlittledogtoo]

Armand is jealous is 100% right. Louis is in a Sleeping With The Enemy situation wirh Armand teying to control every aspect of his life. He's seperated Louis from Clauidia and from Lestat and dragged him all the way to Dubai to keep Louis in a high rise cage.

[@Gabreya]

@@yourlittledogtoo Good point. But, somehow, Armand wasn’t able to control everything about Louis because he (Louis) still has some mental autonomy from him (Armand). Otherwise, he (Louis) wouldn’t have possibly thought to and been able to reach out to Daniel after almost 50 years for another interview.

[@beautifulloly]

I love that you LOVE claudia, i've seen so many ppl just come for her for no reason, like none of this is her fault!! I agree with you guys i think Louis does think that oh Armand is boring but he likes it in a way, he's staying with him because this is safe he knows what to expect, like why not! Whether Lestat is that unpredictability and Louis is scared of that, while Armand likes things being planned and being in control, that's all he knows. I don't know how to interpret Armand saying Claudia didn't love Louis, I think maybe it's him saying oh you loved her sure but she didn't love you like Lestat or I did so she wasn't as useful to you because you wanted that love from a partner and she couldn't give you that? I don't know I'd be interested to see what anyone thinks! I think Claudia loved her like a father, like how you don't really choose your family and they can be atrocious and hateful towards you but you still love them. lmao you can call Armand morally grey and vicious because that's what he is 😭they all are including Louis lol he likes chaos and toxicity this one ! I don't know why some people pick a side while watching this show and get SO angry when their favorite character does something shitty and they get hate for it like that's the point of the show 😭😭 I want to see the ending real bad since episode 1 but i also wanna see everything that happens in between it's so conflicting ! i think it's because i watched the movie and i know how it ends kinda

[@Mulbert]

I think that it might be true that Claudia stopped loving Louis, and if I'm guessing I think when she stopped was when he wouldn't kill off Lestat properly. That was a massive betrayal. However I don't know if Armand believes that, I think he's saying it in a more manipulative "no one loves you except me" way

[@cullenarthur8879]

​@@Mulbertno. Armand told him Lestat loved him (although, Louis thinks Lestat is dead at this point). What Armand told him was absolutely true. Claudia didn't love Louis. She felt more of a responsibility towards him.

[@NyikoDoris]

I took it to mean Armand sees love in a way of utter devotion and almost god-like reverence. Armand and Lestat see love in a way where they would set the world on fire if it made Louis warm but because Claudia has been spurned by Louis so many times and on top of that he’s a brotherfather to her, there’s none of that romantic attachment to drive her wild. So because she wouldn’t do *anything* for Louis, Armand sees it as “she never loved you”. Almost every relationship Louis has after he becomes a vampire, the people courting him do the absolute most so I think that’s how he’s also come to expect love should be expressed and Claudia loves Louis but…she doesn’t quite like him

[@Gabreya]

@@NyikoDoris Hmm. I never thought of it like that. You make so many great points. Reading what you said regarding Claudia loving Louis, it was definitely in the way that a child loves their parent and/or a sibling loves their sibling. Furthermore, what makes it worse is that she was genuinely trying to look out for him and help him make some rational decisions. Yet, he ended up taking her for granted and kept making bad decisions after bad decisions after bad decisions. And that was what partially fueled his grief and guilt over her.

[@NyikoDoris]

@@Gabreya I truly don’t think Louis was looking to replace Grace when they made Claudia, I think he was looking to replace Paul. The difference was Claudia would forever be seen a certain way and her emotions would forever be fluctuating because her brain chemistry was still that melting pot of early adolescence while Paul generally didn’t bother anyone and was adult physically meaning Louis could sometimes just leave him in be in the world, he couldn’t really do that with Claudia when we factor in her gender too. He wanted to recreate someone who needs him but he could not with Claudia who, on top of her physical problems, lived a very traumatised human life and didn’t know how to handle that and because he loves self-flagellation, Louis in a way made Claudia become HIS parent. SHE had to take care of him after his husband dropped him from the sky, nurse him back to health and then SHE had to watch him take back said husband and when she tried to free BOTH of them, at the last minute, Louis sort of turned on her and then they go across the ocean and SHE’S speaking all these languages, taking care of them, finding places to sleep and ‘food’ eat meanwhile Louis is still hallucinating this man who tortured her! I believe Claudia loved Louis very much, but she didn’t like him all that much as a being. Similar to how Louis had a parent’s, sometimes reluctant, love for her but no real understanding of who she is and WHY she feels as she does.

[@legaultrants]

The little pink fan killed me!

[@crazy-kuroneko]

Being a Claudia stan is the most right position to be in *nods*

[@cullenarthur8879]

I think Armand stated why I'm not a Claudia fan. She doesn't love Louis. In fact, she seems to despise him most of the time. Lestat loves Louis. Armand loved Louis. Claudia does not.

[@crazy-kuroneko]

@@cullenarthur8879 Claudia loves Louis, otherwise she wouldn't work that hard to try and free Louis from Lestat in S1. She wouldn't nurse him back and stand up for him to Lestat. She sees Lestat abused Louis despite Lestat saying it's love (abuse and love can exist at the same time btw). But Louis messed up all that hard work at the end. She loves Louis, but she also wants Louis to find himself out there. She's happy for Louis when she sees him and Armand liking each other. She only starts to dislike it after Louis doesn't tell her Armand knows about Lestat, after Armand's coven basically infantilizing her every night, after Armand gets his hands on her. She loves Louis, unlike Lestat and Armand who only know possessive love, who torture Louis if Louis ever makes connection with anyone even when it's platonic. THAT is the difference that Armand actually talks about, but he doesn't understand the concept of loving without being possessive thus he calls that as "not a love".

[@cullenarthur8879]

@@crazy-kuroneko even Louis recognized that Armand was saying the truth when he told him Claudia didn't love him. In the middle of a terrible fight, he saw Armand was right about that. Claudia felt a responsibility towards Louis, like a brother you don't even like most of the time. That's why she went back for him before she decided to leave for Europe, and partially to spite Lestat. She hated Lestat, and wanted to take his love away from him.

[@crazy-kuroneko]

@@cullenarthur8879 ofc Louis said that because he felt guilty for Claudia. You have to step back and see these characters as a big picture to understand their dynamics, because each of their POV is very biased

[@NyikoDoris]

@@cullenarthur8879 Armand says “she didn’t love you…not the way he did, not the way I have!” what that means is she didn’t love him with her entire being. She wasn’t willing to set everyone else on fire for Louis and because Louis loves toxicity, he took it as Claudia never loved him ever and that’s not true. She loved Louis with a limit to what she would do for him, which I think is healthiest kind of love for a character like Louis who gets so consumed by a relationship…but that kind of love is not one that makes sense to immortal beings. Having limits isn’t something that they comprehend.

[@rahndom7400]

Glad I found this, NGL I've been a little conflicted because the characterization of most of my beloved characters has been a little too off from the books but having the constant reminders in season2 that Louis "misremembers" things and that his "memory" might have been "edited out" by a third party has my brain going:................................. YES

[@MystWonka]

Armand never did anything wrong in his life ever

[@nolasalazar]

Read the books!

[@MystWonka]

@@nolasalazar I have... He's just a babygirl 😔

[@NyikoDoris]

He’s soooo princess who has many crimes to his name but that’s okay cause he’s just a silly guy

[@oyami4444]

Armand just needs Marius back. The only man who could put some discipline in that little devil. The original Maitre.

[@littlefoxglove276]

this episode was legitimately harrowing and we're not even at the climax of the series?? also rip daniel, i can't believe you were louis and armand's claudia (which. makes me nervous about his fate, now that i think about it)

[@rabbitmaze]

Great reaction guys! So fun to watch! I just wanted to add that the show might be drawing from Claudia's true feelings about Louis from the books, or her diaries. Her writings show she loved but also deeply hated Louis. Or like Armand said, she didn't love Louis like Lestat and Armand did. She was essentially using Louis most of the time because he was easiest to manipulate. She was even planning to kill him but said: ""Louis will do as I wish, even unto the very destruction of Lestat, which I plan in every detail. Whereas Lestat would never cooperate with my designs upon Louis. So there my loyalty lies, under the guise of love even in my own heart." Can't really blame her for those feelings though. Just makes her even more layered. I feel like all vamps are just fucked up, with severe mental issues, all inflicting pain on each other, but also filled with too many intense wants and feelings. Here is some more interesting excerpts from her diary: "Perhaps in the court of my heart, I hold Louis far more accountable for my present state than ever I could blame my impulsive and simple Lestat. The fact is, one must die for this or the pain in me will never be scaled off, and immortality is but a monstrous measurement of what I shall suffer till the world revolves to its ultimate end. One must die so that the other will become ever more dependent upon me, ever more completely my slave".

[@misterrodrigo1980]

Having read the entire Vampire Chronicles, let me tell you: Louis will never be happy. No matter the circumstances. That is his thing. His existential misery. Always whining, always in pain, always full of drama. That's one of the main reasons Lestat loves him so much: he is drawn to the pain. That's what makes Louis such a tragic character.

[@zachbrehany2253]

Content warning: spoilers for the novels and basic plot of Interview included here. . . . . . . . . . . . . . So, with his suicide attempt, it is actually a scene from later on in the series: Merrick (VC #7). I won't go into details, but both that scene and this one have a lot of similarities. But yeah, goes back to how Claudia actually feels. With Armand and Daniel, the torture scene is also similar to their relationship in The Queen of the Damned (VC #3). Granted, theirs was more of BDSM sprinkled versus this one. But yeah, another interesting way to build up on the source material.

[@minniemoo6956]

What I don’t get is, why did Armand say they’d have Daniel remembering what happened in no time? Why would he want that? And wouldn’t that scene imply Louis knew what happened!

[@Mulbert]

That's the one thing that really confuses me! I hope it's explained because there's only 3 episodes left 💀

[@therebel05]

He didn't want Daniel to remember. He said, We'll have him saying 'What happened next?' in no time. Meaning we'll get him to stop prying and digging and get back to asking basic questions like he did when he was a young drugged out reporter. And once they break him after he mocks Louis after recalling reading Lestat's letter and he goes after him about Alice, the next question he asks is "What happened next?"

[@Mulbert]

@therebel05 OMG you've right, I can't believe I've watched that episode twice and still forgot 😅

[@Gabreya]

@@therebel05 Sure did. But, eventually, Daniel got the upper hand when he realized the inconsistencies in Louis’s photography portfolio that supposedly had certain photos that Louis took and pointed that out to him (Louis). And that’s when things started to go downhill for Louis and Armand because the seeds of doubt and deceit started to grow which segued into this episode.

[@ms.battle9055]

Armand is holding Louis hostage. I think Louis and Lestat want to be together, but Armand is keeping them apart. Armand might have Lestat in the dungeon, controlling Louis to stay with him. Just a tip, you don't know how to stay in the moment. The times when you should be paying attention you are talking and missing the moment. By the way, I like Armand, Louis and Lestat. It's okay to like all three

[@fluorescent_shrimp]

Louis should and will be with Lestat, lmao. Lestat is the love of his life. And yes, he needs him back in his life. The whole story is literally about them. It's not some cliche bs about "leaving the abuser" or whatever you guys think this is

[@whatadollslife]

Armand is like a tidy repressed version of the grim reaper ...and steps in as a cold dark puppet master .......I don't care for him ....these vampire adult men say Claudia is not ready to be a vampire but look how they harm each other with their lies