Making a Monster: JODI ARIAS - Lies, Obsession, Downfall & what NO ONE will talk about

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The Jodi Arias case downfall: The lies, cover up, obsession, and complete timeline and what no one is talking about. We need to talk about Jodi Arias, the manipulation, gaslighting, lies, on both sides, while looking at the full and complete timeline and new evidence. Who are we really supposed to feel bad for?
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[@PettyUniversity]

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[@Hi-zq2mq]

Jon Benet Ramsey pls

[@meltingpointcreations1457]

I don’t care what you cover, I’m just here to listen and learn. You are wonderful, and you deserve all this happiness, SOAK IT UP GIRL

[@bubbles9287]

Definitely the Gabriel Fernandez story. It’s super intense and shocking, but it’s about a child. I used to live one street over from him and his “parents” when he passed and I saw what it did to the community. I know it’s incredibly difficult to speak on children, but it exposes the terrible state of child protection services. There is a doc on Netflix, so you can see if you can even speak of it. If you decide to, I’m willing to give you some extra details. Be careful and take care of yourself when looking into this. Congrats on your award, you Queen!!! ❤️

[@ChelseaWhite212]

Summer wells the missing 5 year old

[@kytticockroach2299]

Caylee Anthony...yes it's been done but not SWOOP style😁

[@Deadspooky-Gore]

As my mother always said, just because they died doesn't make them a saint. Such a good documentary.

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

Huh! My mom always says that as well!

[@hothotheat3000]

Bingo. I always side-eye Dateline with the “he was always so nice, she was a beam of light” thing they do for victims. This guy was a pig.

[@ElleriaZer]

​@@hothotheat3000I mostly think of the Dateline thing as every murder victim is someone's loved one. Even if it's not how they intended it.

[@eh1126]

@@hothotheat3000 true! The way he talked to her was simply disgusting.

[@ArDeeMee]

„Don’t talk shit about dead people, it’s disrespectful.“ Hitler did love his dogs.

[@OffbeatWorlds]

Obviously it goes without saying that was happened to Travis was horrific and no one deserves to be murdered like that, but I'm glad that you highlighted that he wasn't a good person either.

[@nadja2578]

I second that!

[@haleywalker1640]

For sure. With Lisa (who was eighteen, fresh out of high school at best, while he was nearly thirty), what was he doing trying to get her to have sex with him if he considered her "wife material?" When they're part of a religion that basically says that if a woman has sex before marriage she's no longer an eligible match for marriage (which was apparently why marrying Jodi was out of the question)? And when he essentially has to either marry someone before age 31 or get kicked out (I don't know if he'd literally get kicked out or if people would just be giving him odd looks if he continued sticking around while unmarried)? While it doesn't excuse Jodi's actions by a long shot and murder is still murder, there's a chance that someone else might have done it eventually if he repeated what he did with her with other women (find a virgin/nice girl, sleep with them, dump them, then keep them on the side while looking for a new potential wife). Edit: On reflection, I can see how my words may come across as a bit victim-blamey by implying that he might have still been murdered by someone else. Jodi deserved the sentence she got and it was not right that she repeatedly broke into Travis' house and tried sabotaging his other relationships before ultimately killing him. But, with all of that being said, it wasn't good that he was fooling around when he supposedly wanted to find a good wife and settle down so he could do right by his religion (especially with someone he has such a large age gap with) or to verbally abuse Jodi. Maybe he'd still be here today if he either never met Jodi or Jodi was a more well-adjusted person, but I can't imagine it'd be a very happy life (for him or any of the women in his life) if he was always pursuing women and ruining their chances of finding a partner after him by having sex with them (unless they leave the religion) instead of picking someone and sticking with them, or worse actually marrying someone but then cheating on her with a past fling (adultery/cheating is kind of a touchy subject in my family so I'm a bit iffy about people/works portraying it as 100% justified regardless of context).

[@Marie45610]

@@haleywalker1640 Maybe it was his way of trying to "trap" her into marrying him?

[@TrueAfricanHero]

You're glad she's blaming the victim who was harassed and manipulated? That's pretty scummy.

[@kamy6389]

Yes I hate it when people bring up this case and make Travis seem like a saint and a very religious man he had nothing of a saint and even less of a religious man. He was just a bad person, being killed in a horrible way like this is unfair but it does not make h a good person that’s all

[@helenswan2076]

Well deserved Swoop. Like I said,I’m a 73 year old female living in the UK,who’s just discovered your channel. I so love your take on a lot of media influencers and true crime. Your passion and energy are amazing and pass on to your followers. You’ve even got me doing your opening Swoop song. Keep up the hard work,it’s appreciated.

[@natzhutson153]

Wow I would love to get some more insight from your perspective. It would be great to see your comments on other vids. Tbh I'm kinda looking forward to it

[@FairyQueenIvy]

That woman saying Jodi “eliminated herself from being wife material” had the tone of someone who absolutely thinks she’s far above the person shes talking about. And that’s something I’ve noticed about Mormon women, they act like they are better than other women. I can see how that energy would add to jodis crazy making and they’re kinda low key lucky she didn’t snap on all of them

[@stevie9507]

issa cult

[@Rasafrag]

@@stevie9507 A cult with MLM energy. Not even a joke. And they give their kids the worst names or most incomprehensible spellings. There are listicles. I'm certain I saw an Aymeigh on one. Amy. That's all it was.

[@caseyw.6550]

Yeah...that was revolting.

[@caseyw.6550]

@@Rasafrag 😂 the worst

[@stevie9507]

@@Rasafrag MLMs are also cults, just **commercial** ones

[@casrrole]

I don’t mean this in anyway as an excuse, because she was clearly also very toxic in the relationship, but why would he sleep with “the girl of his dreams” only to tell her she’s not pure enough to marry? I feel like the relatives are sugarcoating his feelings for her a little

[@kyleeguthrie1787]

Its the Mormon faith. Its male centered and they do anything they can to diminish women sadly. He definitely didn’t deserve to die but he WAS NOT a saint. He was actually manipulative to multiple women. Such a double standard (but she never had the right to m*rder him like girl you’re crazy)

[@slimskatie9524]

Honestly I cannot stand Jodi BUT Travis just sounded like such a Douche bag 😪 who keeps going back to a girl you kno you want zero relationship with and then openly go in search of a wife. It’s gross. Sorry not sorry.

[@unfortunatelyiamsane]

mormon faith, like other many other bible-based faiths, puts sexual blame squarely on the woman. re: jezebel

[@casrrole]

@@unfortunatelyiamsane yeah it’s sad but i just feel like his friends maybe said he was in love with her to make him seem like the good guy, yknow?

[@carriebell3566]

@@slimskatie9524 I agree. Jodi is insane but Travis was not St. Travis. You play with fire, you might get burned 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@AndriaSilvaful]

Thank you for talking about him being toxic and manipulative. He didn’t deserve what happened to him, but everyone seems to make him out to be this perfect saint who has never done any wrong. Because although it doesn’t excuse it, and he didn’t make her do it, it does help explain how and why this happened.

[@LisaSimpsonRules]

Not really. During the trial, everything in this relationship ended up being discussed, and he was made into a monster. I think that it was one of the jurors that said afterwards that all the jurors felt that Travis had been misrepresented, but from him not being a monster to being a saint there are loads of intermediate degrees of good and bad person.

[@jackieslament]

Yo wtf did you see what she did to him? Wtf crazy ass

[@Graine01]

But if it was a man who killed a woman, you would call that victim blaming. It is so prevalent with male victims from the "progressive" community male gets killed immediately proceed to dig up literally anything to say "he provoked her you see",

[@Graine01]

@@dismal982 If it was a male killer and female victim, you would nto be making such excuses, "he must have provoked her" gets used only when the victim is male, otherwise it gets called victim blaming. This whole video gives me "but what was she wearing"vibes.

[@JoyDavidson]

​@@dismal982victim blaming. Nice.

[@norolemodel88]

I was raised LDS and hated every second of it. I met my husband in high school (he was not LDS) and people were definitely wondering why Matt and I didn’t get married right out of high school. We did wind up getting married in our early 20s, but that was 4 years after we started dating. I was considered an “old maid” cause I married at 22, and it was ridiculous. But hey, he and I just celebrated our 11 year anniversary and I’m 1000% sure it’s lasted cause I’m no longer Mormon and no longer have that stupid religion to put pressure on anything. Plus no kids!

[@dv5632]

Hell yeah, glad you found happiness with your hubby. 🤍

[@jamesplymire5342]

Raising kids is awesome, but it's not for everyone.

[@humourdelight4205]

Aww that's so sweet 🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@Francisco-Danconia]

Wow no kids! You dodged a gigantic bullet! My wife is no longer Mormon but had 4! We love them no doubt, but damn hindsight is 20/20. To bring 4 lives into the world simply because you are told that's your purpose! 😵

[@ninaschust3694]

I am glad you survived. Mormon Stories is a fascinating channel and I learned so much about how high demanding religions are treating their members.

[@kyleeguthrie1787]

So happy to finally watch a Jodi Arias doc where the blame is put on Travis as well. He was SO manipulative and was not innocent at all. Misogyny is a hell of a thing, especially in the Mormon religion. Also, he was in an MLM so of course he knew how to manipulate all these women around him. Anyone high up in an MLM just gives me manipulative vibes. Of course - he NEVER deserved to die, EVER. Sadly in his case - if you’re playing these extremely manipulative games with someone who is unstable, it won’t go well. Jodi wasn’t okay and should have never done what she did, but I am so glad to hear from someone that he wasn’t just some innocent guy who was murdered by a crazy woman. But yeah she is absolutely unhinged.

[@caseyw.6550]

She needed serious help. It's really appalling how much Travis manipulated and took advantage of her. They both make me sick, tbh.

[@LaDimplez91]

EXACTLY.

[@jaakpotts]

Agreed! It’s always bothered me that the behavior by Travis was never talked about as a catalyst for her crazy behavior. Jodi was not mentally stable, but if Travis treated her with respect, would she have done what she did? I hate when people glossed over that.

[@KB-pu8ff]

YES! Every doc/video I’ve seen cover this story paints him like a saint. The man may not have deserved to die, but he at least deserved every little fucked up thing Jodi did before that point. Take someone already a bit off and play them like a puppet then act shocked when they snap?

[@LadyVesuvius]

I 100% agree with you!!

[@joemamacool]

I’ve been Jodi before, obviously nowhere near as psychotic but it made me pretty crazy, being used/abused/unloved while in love is a painful experience along with everything else that comes with it in most cases. I can sympathize for some part but she does deserve her time in prison. she needs serious help.

[@HaintblueRee]

Me too-but that also gave me the mindset to be like yeah sorry homeboy died but F Him and the horse he rode in on. He was awful, she was awful.

[@lynslyphillip4495]

Same here.

[@HitsugiHime]

Same… but she’s a psycho. Jesus…

[@jeanniepiller3421]

I've always thought that Travis was horrible to her but when it first came out the sentiment was so lopsided and rightfully so that I never wanted to go in any comment section and say it. To me I feel like if you want to treat a woman like that - ok f*** around and find out. One day you'll do it to the wrong person. Not saying he deserved death but broken people are all around us and the golden rule is golden for a reason.

[@kellyrose2895]

​@@asmrtpop2676I'm so sorry for what you went through and so glad you're in a healthier place now. Also, I had to tell you how amazing your username is. The most creative one I've ever seen. I wish you all the love and happiness you deserve!

[@249Bubbles]

Of course Jodi was insane and nothing excuses what she did, but THANK YOU for not making an angel out of the victim (Travis). He was such a misogynist and such a hypocrite, a liar, a cheater, a user of women. And going after an 18-year-old child as a 29-year-old man, and not only that, but CHEATING on that young girl and also trying to pressure her into sex? Awful.

[@Younce_Davies]

She was very vulnerable as well as she had BPD. A lot of times we are victims of abuse.

[@firewilson8056]

Jody was there because she wanted to be

[@Weeniehutnurse]

@@firewilson8056Travis was also there because he wanted to be, If you want to victim blame.

[@thedudeandthemaumau2347]

An 18 year old is not a child. She had her own free will. No one held her hostage in thay relationship. She manipulated him, as well as everyone in her life. Sorry.

[@carriebell3566]

@@thedudeandthemaumau2347their brain’s frontal lobe is still not developed fully…they are children still.

[@leileyaravencroft]

It’s surprising that so many people who cover the Jodi Arias case seem to forget she had a boyfriend during that time and that she had visited him to establish an alibi. I actually seen him being interviewed for a “Who the Bleep Did I Marry?” episode.

[@forevercandace714]

I saw that too!!

[@jakestroll6518]

I mean she's a psycho killer but let's not make up details. The guy whose place she passed through on was an ex hookup. Her obsession was this other dude. Very BPD

[@HelloXrancidkitteh]

I think Bailey Sarian did mention it when she was covering it.

[@Catsss1017]

Lol they weren’t boyfriend girlfriend just talking.

[@toomessy]

I actually had no idea about this, and I've seen so many documentaries of hers. That's...insane, yet lowkey quite "smart"

[@rxcemxlk]

Something I find unfortunate is that because of how toxic both parties were, Travis’ family are probably convinced that Jodi was an actual succubus or something.

[@platedlizard]

She kinda was

[@rxcemxlk]

@@platedlizard metaphorically yes

[@roowyrm9576]

To move away from praising Swoop (which she fully deserves) The thing that got me about this case (which which, being in the UK I am not overly familiar) was the double standards and misogyny demonstrated, which contributed to the end of Jodi and Travis's affair. "He wanted a virgin Mormon girl, so the fact she slept with him ruled her out as marriage material" She slept with him, so she was no longer "pure" - what about him?Mormon men are also supposed to remain pure, but he clearly did not follow that, in spite of being a fervent Mormon. I am sure there were other factors involved in this case, but, for him to treat anyone like this is dispicable. This, though, in no way excuses her killing him.

[@neurotika]

Yeah the Mormon thing was glazed over. The subjugation of women is real. Spankie said something like “I’m don’t want to shit on the LDS faith…”. Nah, you NEED to talk about it. The church literally preaches and practices everything she and many of us stand openly against.

[@reginarainer9740]

I think more people need to speak up and out about the way that women are treated in Mormonism. His treatment of the women in his life is a good example of it. There’s some pretty famous classes that young girls go to, where they’re supposed to learn about sex and sexuality and they get compared to cupcakes that the teacher has licked. It’s disgusting.

[@tiffany.Elizabeth.]

The Mormon religion is insane!! It’s a cult and dangerous.

[@kyleeguthrie1787]

The Mormon religion is 100% a misogynistic cult. He didn’t deserve to die but he was an awful man in regards to treating women & his religion promotes that sadly. I grew up Jehovah’s witness (which I also believe is a cult) and Mormonism is NEXT LEVEL cult-y.

[@ms.shineray]

Travis was not the price he thought he was and to me is sad he is dead and people won’t see it for what he was. He shouldn’t be dead but he wasn’t a good person either

[@Deadpool4president]

Imagine being the person who sets your friend up with someone who later kills them. That must be so traumatizing

[@iolitelight]

I saw one of the jurors in this case and he talked about the heat they got for not giving her a death sentence. He said they did determine she premeditated a heinous crime and for that she would either spend her life in prison or lose her life. What decided it for them was that they saw the evidence, they heard the messages, and Travis Alexander abused her. He told everyone she was a crazy stalker but was stringing her along and using her for sex. He called her names and insulted her and belittled her. None of it justifies what she did, but they spared her life for that reason.

[@carriebell3566]

Typical narcissistic behavior

[@Fate263]

Plus... it also depends on what state even allows the death penalty anymore. I question if AZ honors that pentalty (wouldn't shock me if it does)... but even though I feel over 20 times is grizzly, I don't think it warrants federal fatality. But then, I'm not a lawyer or juror in that case. Now, add in the excessive lies, lack of remorse, and what have you... well, that can be argued.

[@fuzzbucket00]

💯

[@edith9116]

He wanted a virgin but wasn't one himself. Thats rich! She eliminated herself from being taken serious by him by sleeping with him but he continue to sleeping with her. Don't ask for something in a partner that you yourself are not.

[@capric0rpse]

I always felt ick about this case, he did her wrong and used her for sex and strung her along until he could find someone better in his eyes.. but he didn’t deserve to be killed, at all.

[@johns3927]

Travis told Jodi that she just saw him as a "dildo with a heartbeat". Jodi never made such accusations before trial. So the only evidence we have of someone "using someone for sex" is against Jodi coming from Travis.

[@D_skeptic]

Did she really have to flat out say "I was used for sex" for you to know thats what was happening? You can easily surmise that she wanted a relationship w/ Travis from her behavior prior to the murder. Nobody is that obsessive, possessive, & clingy over a dildo with a heartbeat. People don't move across state lines, slash tires, & sneak in doggy doors over sex toys because you can just get another. Sex was just the only way for her to keep the door open with Travis in hopes that a relationship could be rekindled. The statement you mentioned (which came mere hours after Travis called Jodi a whore & slut & just generally degraded her via email) proves nothing other than Travis was trying to manipulate his way out of responsibility for being verbally abusive to her earlier that day. By making that comment, suddenly he has changed the narrative & they were no longer talking about his conduct. Travis knew Jodi wanted a relationship. He kept sleeping with her & playing her hot & cold anyways. (Which was stupid given he knew she had a screw loose. If you have 2 brain cells to rub together, you could easily surmise she was unstable via her behavior & general demeanor in her interactions w/ Travis). Jodi absolutely deserves to be where she is but Travis was also a scumbag. The moral of the story is don't poke the bear... especially a crazy homicidal bear. 🤷🏻‍♀️ 🐻

[@johns3927]

@@D_skeptic He is responding to her that way because of her controlling, stalking, and therefore abusive behavior. Saying mean things in response to an abuser is not the same thing as being abusive. You want me to get mad about Travis calling her a slut and a whore? LOL She was definitely into that shit. You got nothing on him there. "Did she really have to flat out say "I was used for sex" for you to know that's what was happening?" No, but it is a bit strange that the only explicit accusation of that comes from Travis against Jodi if indeed only the opposite was the case. So we have MORE evidence of Jodi using Travis for sex than the reverse. That doesn't mean she was, but you have no basis for saying Travis was just using Jodi for sex if you are going to ignore the GREATER evidence for the reverse. "Nobody is that obsessive, possessive, & clingy over a dildo with a heartbeat." There is no reason to think Jodi actually cared about Travis. Lots of people become obsessed with others in the same way they do a possession. Nothing to do with actually caring about the person. And that's especially the case here considering what she did to him.

[@D_skeptic]

And btw, Im sure you've heard the phrase "two wrongs dont make a right?" The appropriate response if someone is being controlling and stalkerish would have been to end the relationship. Period. Not to keeping fucking Jodi and not to vascilate between telling her how beautiful & perfect she is to sudden intense verbal abuse meant to belittle & degrade her. (For the record, Travis also did that at times when there is no evidence of Jodi doing anything that might have provoked him... It seems he was a bit of a moody prat from what I can tell). Calling a woman a whore," "slut," "three hole wonder," "skank" (etc) is not okay & does not suddenly become okay just because someone else behaves in an unflattering manner too. You can only control your own conduct so basing it around the behavior of others is how you end up an asshole.

[@johns3927]

@@D_skeptic Yeah, he should have broken up, but not all abuse victims do. So there's not much to respond to there. Since she ended up killing him, and all his friends described her behavior in terms that could only be described as abusive, then yeah, I'm gonna put some weight on that evidence. And so within that context, Travis saying mean things to his abuser is not the same thing as being an abuser. End of story, really.

[@briceidaperez5856]

What Jodi did was terrible and I don’t respect someone who takes someone’s life. I do know what it’s like to be in that kind of relationship. I had a friend with benefits that made it seem like we could be something one day. Said I love you all the time when we did it. Wanted us to move out together but at the same time didn’t see me as wife material. Talked about other girls. Telling me about girls who could be the one and I thought to myself why them and not me. This guy says he loves me but won’t label it and would get mad if I dated other men. He manipulated to a point where I stop talking to other people and would not make plans because I had to keep my nights available for him. It drives you crazy and I’m not saying what she did was right. She killed a human but I hate saying this I understand how it feels to be in those relationships and even when you’re out of them you feel crazy like if you can’t live without them. For me I’m okay now. I’m independent and doing things in my own and learning to be me again

[@Normaschthewanderer]

I'm sorry about what you went through. That sounds toxic as hell. You didn't deserve that.

[@littlewhitecrow9159]

That part is so hard. Learning to be you. I hope that you are you every day and love every moment of re-experiencing the world with new eyes. You're allowed to be you. You're allowed to be happy. Huggs.

[@hellooutthere8956]

Please realize you are better than tht. Ppl only treat you the way you allow them to treat you. Saying all that I have been in the "love" relationship. Destiny. Once I broke free I realized I was only be treated as good as I treated myself. Love yourself plz.

[@nostalji93]

Hope you are doing alright!

[@ScubaFanatic60]

I was in a relationship like this. Ex boyfriend, living with another woman but kept telling me how much he loved me, wasn't happy with her etc. I'd keep Fridays open so we could meet for lunch. I'd break off contact and he'd show up at my workplace with flowers just wanting to talk. Went on for years. I never saw it for what it was until I finally was able to break things off for good. I kick myself for not seeing things for what they were sooner. But I do now.

[@danielle6002]

I liked that you touched on the way Travis talked/treated Jodi. It’s something I haven’t really seen. It obviously doesn’t change who she is and what she’s done, but it is nice to have more info.

[@nooralahmar9207]

Same, it was my first time ever hearing that part of the story.. RIP to Travis but he wasn't nice..

[@deltasaves]

It's rarely talked about how horrible of a person he was, not that him being murdered was justified. I was also happy to hear Swoop touch on his "job" and if you look into those companies, especially Devil Corp side of MLMs, you'll see the issues and how predatory these ones in particularly are.

[@keee582]

He wasn't a horrible person. Jodi was. She stalked him, harrassed him, showed up to his house with out knowing, A LOT. Why can't we see that she was the abusive one? And the fact that, she was seeing Travis while in a relationship? Dated other guys to make him jelaous? Sent pictures of her with other men? Moved to where HE lived, when he didn't want her to? You don't think he tried to stop talking to her? He was clearly scared. I would take a deep dive in this case, and uncover the actual facts. Was he the best person in the world? No. But everyone saying, "he didnt deserve this" BUT "he was a terrible person" "he abused her" is pretty much agreeing that she should be free because she was "abused".

[@johns3927]

How did he "treat" her exactly? Not committing but not fully cutting off an abusive person? Sounds pretty par for the course to me.

[@jaylalove7308]

@@keee582 he was not scared. Stop the cap.

[@christinaschutze420]

When you started getting emotional when Bailey gave you the award, I almost started crying too. You deserve this so much. Not only are your docs really good but you are also just a beautiful person who genuinely cares about others. I’m so happy to see you get the recognition that you deserve ❤️ SWOOP SWOOP AAAAAAH

[@mariakelly90210]

Congratulations, Swoop!

[@Feverm00n]

I was tearing up lol it was such a lovely moment.

[@ScientificallyStupid]

I teared up too, Swoop deserves all the awards

[@soullesspandabear8276]

As a person who was raised in the LDS Mormon church, I was told that I was just an object for men to marry and have kids with and it's not surprising that he pretty much viewed her as an object and treated her as such. When you're not in the church you don't realize just how much pressure there is, especially on women to uphold that commandment. Sure we can have our own opinions, but no guy would want you because you're not an "obedient woman." And the pressure is also on guys as well. They are taught to be the leader and the only priesthood holder in the family and a lot of them struggle with the "sin of pornography." I left the church when I was 16 and am 19 now so it's been a little while, but I remember just how much pressure there was on everyone.

[@PoltieBoo]

Im really late but thats awful i feel like I shouldn't have this opinion but i really do think mormon as a religion shouldnt exist. At least with all the pressure and stuff on everyone from what Ive heard

[@violetsrayreikishop2]

I'm so happy you're healing from that and so everything for what it is. May your journey be blessed 🙌 ❤

[@violetsrayreikishop2]

​@@PoltieBoohonestly many religions shouldn't exist.

[@alisonmercer5946]

​@@PoltieBooit's just another cult a,big successful one

[@CECICEO-cz9ho]

GET OUT OF THAT WICKED 'CHURCH'........

[@kody_lee1394]

Congratulations on winning the streamy award!!! I can't think of anyone who deserves it more than you. You're one of, if not, the best creator on this platform. I'm so excited for everything you do in the future and can't wait for all to come. Love you, have an amazing rest of your day ❤️

[@sunsiter]

Seeing Swoop and Bailey together made my day! Two exceedingly talented women. Love women uplifting each other.

[@kristinb3093]

Same! I know I'm so late lmfao, but I just discovered swoop like 3 weeks ago so I've been watching all the docs. Bailey is one of my favs so seeing that was a surprise!

[@moonsharn]

This whole scenario is exactly like my ex husband and the mistress he had for 7 years. He was horribly abusive to her and she’d stalk, vandalise and threaten our lives. It was that Madonna situation you described with me too. He’s diagnosed with NPD, she is diagnosed with BPD. Neither have killed the other, there were a lot of years I feared for myself. Terrifying people. Mentally, emotionally, physically, financially and legally abusive. He stalked me for 5 years after I got away, in the same way she had stalked him. Only I didn’t sleep with him… obviously.

[@lesliekupchanko5001]

He might've loved her. But religious laws forbade it. What a mess. Jesus confronted religion and the men behind their religious laws. He set the adultness free with: "He who has not sinned, cast the first stone"

[@samanthareise4493]

Being told you're admired by someone you admire has to feel other worldly. Very much deserved bestie.

[@hotpinkcrayolas]

The amount of young, naive folk who fall for the 'anal is ok' line is saddening. I know people who genuinely believed that. The demonisation of sex is fricken ridiculous - adding the whole 'sin' thing to something biologically normal is a whole level of mental stress that can really fuck some people up x

[@julieann4616]

Really? Maybe I just have smart friends because I’ve NEVER heard of anyone having anal sex because someone told them they’d remain a virgin. I’ve heard that this happens but it seems like a myth. Anal sex is extremely uncomfortable & I find it hard to believe a virgin wouldn’t also find it gross.

[@hotpinkcrayolas]

@@julieann4616 It's a big thing in Catholic schools in the UK certainly. For a more comedic take look up 'The sex that God can't see' by Garfunkle and Oates x

[@graysonrogers-barnes6302]

@@hotpinkcrayolas God that video is hilarious

[@awright119021]

If you truly think that manipulative psycho ever thought or believed anything like that, you are incredibly gullible. That was a made up story to make her look better during the trial. All of that was admitted by her own lawyer!!

[@ScientificallyStupid]

I knew a guy who told me all the girls he'd been with only wanted to do anal so they didn't get pregnant and "stayed virgins", what kind of logic is that?!

[@finnwace9977]

Just want to share, coming from someone with Borderline Personality Disorder, there is a lot of stigma equating us to abusers and serial killers. I enjoy your docs and have a lot of respect for you handle educating larger audiences about such intense subjects. I'm hopeful that in future docs, you may be able to add a disclaimer that having BPD is not synonymous with being dangerous and abusive. What Arias did is unspeakably awful, but not something that most of us would do. BPD is an incredibly painful diagnosis that often signals a lifetime of self-negativity among other things, and the common negative media mention of BPD only makes that harder and the diagnosis more challenging to healthily identify with and seek support for.

[@haveyoueatenbrainsaladbefo2320]

agreed as another person with bpd ^^^ bpd is extremely painful and shitty to deal with

[@Gobble_de_Goop]

If you want pity, then develop empathy for others and quit falsely accusing people of committing crimes JUST because your fragile ego *is bruised. Borderlines are NOTORIOUS for false allegations/administrative retribution against former lovers.

[@isthiscereallife]

All cluster B personality disorders deserve fair and kind treatment imo. Borderline, Narcissitic, Histrionic, and Antisocial personality disorders all get the short end of the stick as the "abuser disorders." They're brought on by childhood trauma just like the cluster A and C personality disorders, and people with cluster B personality disorders are more likely to be hurt/abused again and again, or are more likely to hirt themselves...

[@salmonandsoup]

@@Gobble_de_Goop They're asking for compassion and understanding, and are both trying to seek support to ensure that they interact with people in a healthy manner. Neither of those requests are anywhere close to pity, and they're not making excuses. A mental disorder is a mental disorder, with the good, the bad, and the ugly. To both of you, finnwace and haveyoueaten, I hope that you've each got an amazing therapist, well-priced and effective meds, and a good support system-and if you don't, I'm manifesting it for you.

[@littlewhitecrow9159]

​@@Gobble_de_Goopare you a straight up psychopath?

[@JeddtheJedi]

Sexual repression is at the root of, or at least tied deeply with, so much awful stuff.

[@ladydartz]

An issue I have with the true Crime community as of late is that they tend to trivialise someone else's tragedy. I like how you tell the situation in a light way, but not ignoring the fact that these are real people, who had been affected by a tragedy.

[@leileyaravencroft]

I like that about Swoop too. There is another true crime tuber Coffeehouse Crime (I believe that’s the name)

[@Optimiss93]

At the end of the day we’re literally watching someone else’s death story for our entertainment, who cares

[@sarab3417]

This is why I don’t watch Bailey.

[@RagingRaven88]

@@Optimiss93 Or for educational purposes. I didn't know a lot about the facts about this case and Swoop did a great job informing us.

[@beautyalaritz3310]

Can you explain what you mean by trivialize?

[@Cecylita1985]

I think she totally deserves what happened, she committed a heinous crime and prison is the place she needs to be, But Travis Alexander wasn’t a good person, and that was something that always bothered me watching documentaries about the case; many of them downplay all the shitty things he also said and did.

[@brittianyistre]

OMG you NEED to make shirts that say "it's not drama, it's dangerous" Also you say this is over done, but I've never heard of this case before. So thank you for making it!! Congratulations on the award ❣️❣️ you deserve it 😘

[@katscr4tch767]

I would buy this.

[@autumnguthrie3177]

Yes I would buy that!!!

[@kaiw522]

Yes please!!

[@BM-gs2zx]

I'd purchase this, too

[@Nicole-dk1cn]

Oh I'd snatch up that instantly. Especially if it's on a hoodie or mug.

[@dsea6092]

As an older woman who has struggled to overcome horrific se**** abus* in childhood and adulthood, your videos in which you touch on your experiences have meant the world to me. I love your films in general, but you have validated my pain, but showed me by example that I can still contribute my gifts. You are an angel in disguise. Congrats on your award. You deserve all good things.

[@TeddyLovesAxl]

Stay strong sister 👊 May you continue to find peace❤

[@tegantalks9612]

Honestly the whole “flirt to convert” things is one of the ways mormons get new members. My brother in law converted to being Mormon for his wife and my husband was forced to attend Mormon church as a teen so that his friends could play DND with him and his brother. When he was 18 he had all kinds of Mormon girls throwing themselves at him and trying to concert him but by that time he had gotten in to metal and liked to party so he kinda went hard into the party life while his brother went into the Mormon life. My husband and I are not religious whatsoever lol

[@firewilson8056]

The people who decide to be a part of the Mormon religion and enjoy their lives as Mormons have a right to practice their lifestyle. Jody was excommunicated when she was convicted and she didn't seem to embrace the religion other than being what Travis wanted in a wife. She would have had a better chance with him if she was more involved with Spirituality or ppl business instead of sex. He said to her that he was a dildo with a heart beat to her and that shows he didn't think Jody cared about him as a person either

[@cyanidesmile7263]

​​​@@firewilson8056 obviously Jodi was someone who serious needed help and wasn't a great person, but the rest of your comment is giving "if only she had believed in God more she would have been worthy of him" when Travis had been the one to have sex with her and then say that because she wasn't a virgin that she wasn't good enough, even though he also wasn't a virgin before that, emotionally and mentally abusive, extremely sexist and misogynistic. Low key it sounds like ignoring that he was also an asshole who strung her along, literally told her she was his property, and picked and chose which parts of religion to believe to serve and justify his misogyny and ego. Obviously he didn't deserve to be killed, but yeah the comment is giving "he'll change for the right one" and it's just ick.

[@Hippidippimahm]

Well I’ll be goddamned. If a guy EVER called me a “3-Hole-Wonder” I would go absolutely nuclear.

[@jenniferbond7073]

I was told by an ex and I quote “I’m only fucking you till someone better comes along”. I still get PISSED when I think about this 20 years later. He was right, he met Summer, wonderful woman that he married and has 2 beautiful kids with. But does not excuse him for saying this. He’s got a daughter, I hope no guy treats her the way her dad treated me!

[@ewetn1]

@@jenniferbond7073 yiiiiikes..... One of my exes, when prompted during a talk where I encouraged total honesty told me after a long silence that he wasn't sure if he was only with me because it was better than being alone. It hurt but I was also grateful to hear his true thoughts that I asked for. Obviously, we didn't stay together, and I don't have any hard feelings for him to this day. Our end was a bit dramatic. He cheated on me when I was sick and had asked him to drive me home from work. He was also living with me temporarily. I went bananas. But to this day, I just feel guilt for pursuing him and forcing a relationship. He's one of the best people I've ever met. Had he said something like that to me though (3 hole wonder, waste of oxygen, Satan in human form) I would not hold him in such high esteem.......

[@londonwerewolf7542]

@@jenniferbond7073 That’s disgusting. What a disgusting, abusive POS. I’m sorry.

[@redleeks6253]

@@jenniferbond7073 And how is that not mental and emotional abuse?? I was in a relationship like that and in 3 months I developed "borderline symptoms" that I didnt have or experienced in 30 years of life. He triggered my autoimmune condition, depression, i lost my job, became suicidal. The mental and emotional abuse is beyond and no they don't let you go when you notice shit. The discard has to be done at their time and way because they'll stalk and keep you around until they find someone better. He ruined my life, i didn't complete suic*de but I was kept in a mental ward for 32 days in a 3rd world country...and i never have visited a psychiatrist in my life. I did have a story of parental abuse and that's why when we came across these personality types the inner pain gets activated and all emotional dysregulation. Even a mentally well person who's put through this hot&cold, push&pull dynamics starts to develop mental and physical symptoms. Many women get labeled as crazy and borderlines when they are reacting from the emotional abuse they've been through. I have no sympathy for this Travis, he would have made every woman in his life miserable.

[@Janellabelle]

Yea, well you're not alone. Jodi arias would too. And so would I. He fucked with the wrong one. And I don't feel bad for his ass.

[@hippopajamas]

misogyny really is a hell of a thing

[@johns3927]

A woman stabs a dude 27 times, almost decapitates him, then shoots him in the face. Misogyny is the main problem here!😆

[@hippopajamas]

@@johns3927 hey, fam- ever heard of the word "motive"

[@johns3927]

@@hippopajamas Yeah her motive was that he wasn't completely committed to being in an abusive relationship with her.

[@ismininotonline]

@@johns3927 sir... he literally abused her too

[@johns3927]

@@ismininotonline How?

[@RoryRichardBrown]

What pissed me off about this is her lawyers tried to use BPD as an excuse for Jodis entire bs. Like, she faked being crazy and then tried to blame a stigmatized disorder. (I have BPD) Fucking makes my blood boil

[@TheaterCryptid]

I have BPD too and omg exactly this. Cluster B are so demonized all the time and I hate it. It feels like everything is blamed on it while there are so many people that have it and they obviously don't end up on the news for horrible crimes.

[@jennifermoriarty2188]

​@@TheaterCryptid know a horrible bpd person at work

[@TheaterCryptid]

@@jennifermoriarty2188 I'm so sorry about that but they're most likely a horrible person *with BPD* and not a horrible person *because of BPD* . Generalizing a whole group of person because you know someone who had that and isn't nice is harmful for the other members of that group, so please be careful.

[@katarzynarymszo929]

While I agree that BPD is never an excuse for acting horribly and being a nasty person as pwBPD I can't also deny that untreated this disorder ruins life of you and others around you. I can admit I was horrible in a past. I take full accountability for it. At the same time now that I treat my disorder my symptoms are much less severe and don't cause harm to others or myself anymore as much. Part of my symptoms was being very reactive and obsessive over one person. That being said not everybody With BPD will act like Jodie or Amber Heard. And even if they do they should get treatment ASAP. I send hugs to everybody who deals with BPD and other cluster B personality disorders. Shit is hard as fuck and stigma around this makes it even harder to recover. But always take accountability for your actions. Always

[@ThatBlondeRecluse]

Want to add that BPD was suspected by a professional but clinically takes MONTHS of engagement with a qualified therapist to make an official diagnosis. Does she show symptoms? Yes. But that symptom array overlaps w/ those of many other diagnoses as well as trauma & abuse history, CPTSD, & other issues. Saying she was wildly obsessed to the point of insanity & murder covers it enough without pulling in a whole other issue.

[@bricollins]

So I myself have borderline personality disorder. I feel like he really messed with her head, and made her disorder even worse. I also think it's not just borderline, but she also has another illness where she doesn't feel any remorse. People with BPD do feel remorse, but obviously she's a psychopath or narcissist too. It's quite sad. She doesn't even feel guilty.

[@louiseskip3488]

That's so scarey.

[@armyforlife3191]

I agree. People always stigmatize and villainize us. Yes we have suffered trauma, but the vast majority of people don’t go around committing cold-blooded murder. She for sure had heavier things than BPD. Total psychopath, narcissistic pathological liar. No remorse, no guilt.

[@may_ryann]

Correct me if I'm wrong but it was also mentioned somewhere she has BPD with narcissistic features. She probably felt justified of killing him because he was messing up with her. Continuing to have sex with her even after they broke up fueled her hope that one day they would live happily ever after, but after Jodi knew she was going to be discarded she likely felt like he deserved it.

[@iUnderstand]

I was thinking the same thing. The games he played with her probably exacerbated any type of psychological illness or special traits she had, or maybe even triggered those things for the first time

[@Elikazul15]

Bpd here too. I think I get more narcissism from him but can definitely see the psychopath in her. Not feeling remorse over killing someone she "loved". Kinda scary to think what these people would be capable of doing to the rest of us.

[@reoliveira926]

Travis: I want a virginal Mormon girls for a wife Also Travis: Tris to get into everyone's pants. Gosh, the hypocrisy and misogyny

[@MademoiselleCl3]

And it's even worst when you see women defending him, like this dummy that said Jodi removed herself from being wife material because she slept with him. Like he didn't do a thing.

[@jaydinelee7181]

Exactly. It's disgusting. It wasn't because he was looking for a wife. It was because he was a sex fiend and it looked bad being unmarried and being around all these women.

[@mariakelly1059]

@@MademoiselleCl3 Which is ironic because I think that Jodi became a Mormon because she thought that it would improve her chances of Travis marrying her.

[@anicasusan7743]

L

[@leavemealone802]

I don't even know if is even Misogyny, or is just religious brainwash. If is common for Mormons to be married before 30 and a Virgin, I would blame his religion for this awful mindset But I saw this whole "She isn't a Virgin anymore, pass" as a excuse, because that girl was crazy. But I honestly don't know anymore

[@samjennings6998]

i'm so glad you talk about these things in this way, i am horrified by what jodie did but i've seen so many people cover this case and i always felt weird about travis as well, i think this case is messy on both parts, still doesn't justify what she did but i like that you bring that aspect to the conversation

[@melancolie83]

If I may correct something, the woman saying that Jodi eliminated herself from being wife material wasn’t Travis’ friend, nor was she a Mormon. It’s Shanna Hogan, a journalist and true crime writer who wrote a book about the case. IIRC she took an interest to the story because she and Jodi had dated the same guy when they were younger (not at the same time though😅). Sadly she passed away in 2020 from a fall in her pool. Edit: I loved the doc! I thought I knew the Jodi Arias case too well to be interested in yet another doc about that story, but I was truly invested in yours and I enjoyed it a lot! Also, congrats on your award 👍 Bailey’s right, you’ll go far ❤️

[@xRandax94]

I didn't know that Shanna Hogan passed away! That's very sad. I remember getting "Picture Perfect" when it first came out and read it within the night.

[@still_your_zelda]

Thank you for telling it how it is. So many true crime channels gloss over how they were both messed up. He wasn't some innocent little boy either. Did not deserve to die but also does not deserve to be held at a saint status either.

[@chococat2119]

Exactly being dead, hurt, or done does not mean they are excused from the shit they did. He decided to cheat, to use Jodi, to manipulate Jodi into sex, that was all his own actions. Of course Jodi should still be held accountable and serve her time in jail but that does not mean Travis is free from criticism.

[@johns3927]

@@chococat2119 Travis said Jodi only saw him as a "dildo with a heartbeat" and called her a "sociopath". So he clearly thought she had no warm feelings for him, so how exactly would he "manipulate" her? This also indicates Travis was the one being "used". There were no accusations of Travis "using" Jodi until the trial.

[@chococat2119]

@@johns3927 here's the thing if he did think of her like that he should have cut her off. But he didn't he kept fucking her even when he was in relationships. And when I say manipulate I mean in the terms where he said "doing it by the back door doesn't count". He wanted a virgin yet he couldn't stay one himself and lied to her so he could do it. And again this doesn't excuse Jodi for what she did and still stand with her being held accountable but Travis wasn't a good guy either and shouldn't just be pushed to the back just bc he was a victim.

[@johns3927]

​@@chococat2119 The claim that he said "doing it in the backdoor doesn't count" comes solely from Jodi's testimony, a known liar who there is no reason to believe. The claim that he broke up with her because she had sex with him and thus lost her virginity comes from one woman, who doesn't name the source of her information. For all we know it could be a rumor. Until she reveals her source of information, her claim can be easily dismissed. And yes, because Travis was trying to keep up Mormon appearances, he was not open with the abusive relationship he was in. He should have come clean and gotten help, but that's pretty normal for abuse victims.

[@gRinchY-op5vr]

@John S considering its a common excuse Mormon boys/men use to still get sex and keep the girls/women they see pure and virginal, it's obviously not just some lie Jodi came up with. Even his friends in the faith admit it was a thing 🙄

[@AutumnSwift2]

I always felt weird about Travis as a person and being a huge hypocrite but if I ever said anything about it I would've been attacked for talking badly about the dead.

[@aperturius]

Same. I was obsessed with the trial but if you say anything bad about Travis in the comment sections of most YT videos about it you're instantly labeled a Jodi supporter. I don't think Travis deserved to die like that but I also don't think his MLM selling misogynistic ass is a big loss to the world.

[@tunesquicklee]

that's what confounds me-people insisting we have "respect for the dead". fuck that noise! i'll call bullshit out whether a person is dead or alive. if a person dies and they were a piece of shit, i'll say that. that's honesty. i would have no respect for Travis if he was living, and thus i don't have respect for him even if he's dead.

[@qwandary]

I don't get why we can't talk bad about the dead. People shit on Hitler, we obviously don't mind talking bad about the dead, we just decide some are untouchable. I'll talk bad about whomever I want lmao. They can be right in front of me or 6ft under, if it's laundry day, I do what's needed. *shrugs*

[@Femyoz]

I think Travis is an example of when it's okay to talk badly about the dead. He was a mormon freak who abused women and thought they were subhuman. He deserves no sympathy; him and Jodi were perfect for each other and I'm glad they both got what they deserved.

[@drama2u]

@@FemyozTravis was in no way innocent at all. He shouldn’t have lied and hid his bad behaviors with Jodi. But these kind of people lie to themselves to the point where they believe their own lies. His lifestyle was so contradicting. I do have to say at the end of it all, he didn’t deserve to die though. Jodi should have exposed him and not Jill him. But her action is to prove what revenge means. She wanted to end him completely.

[@Kate0Len0Ricky]

I knew my ex was dangerous, but he never felt dangerous to me until after we broke up. The day after our break up he broke into my house and climbed into my bed and held me and said that he knew we could work things out if only I would talk to him. I don't even know if I said anything, I think I did, and then he leapt out of bed and started screaming at me that if I can't even relax into a hug then there was no future for us. (Cause call me crazy, but I was stiff as a board and didn't want to snuggle... idk man not my thing) Anyway it took awhile to get him to chill, like consistently telling him that no I wouldn't reconsider that I had to think of my kid first and that I knew he had cheated on me and I wasn't about that. Honestly it took about a year before I felt confident enough to block him off facebook. My friends were always like, "Why do you even text him, you hate him?" And I was like "Because I enjoy living and don't want to end up the subject of those crimedocs I enjoy so much.," Yeah I could go on about the craziness but yeah, if I were a guy and a girl was doing that shit- idk, I feel like their is definitely a bias that women aren't as dangerous as men in that situation...

[@kateashby3066]

My girl-friend in HS was a hardcore Christian and a “virgin”. But she had no issue doing back door with her boyfriend 🤦🏻‍♀️ the crap some ppl tell themselves!

[@drama2u]

Babies don’t come out of they ass.

[@grasstastesbad]

their relationship was really toxic and they both treated each other badly but jodi definitely took it to another level with murder. i feel like they both had good reason to cut ties and it’s sad neither did cause travis could’ve still been alive and jodi wouldn’t be in prison for the rest of her life :/

[@Sleipnirseight]

Speaking of people trying to find virginity loopholes, I recently learned about SOAKING 💀💀😂 PSA: virginity is an imaginary social construct we made up to be mean to women 🙃 live your life and be happy 💜✌️🦄

[@Cheshieruu]

and also to be mean to men! such a double edged sword...

[@okaywhynot4728]

What is...what is soaking?

[@raneemacintosh6842]

@@okaywhynot4728 according to my brief internet search 'soaking' means inserting the penis but NOT repeated thrusting. SMH if that doesn't take a person's virginity, what does!?

[@ameliashostak4764]

wait....what is soaking?!? curious minds wanna know, lol.

[@Cheshieruu]

@@okaywhynot4728 pp into hole and let it sit there. Thus, “soaking”. It’s wild, the mental gymnastics, man…

[@NaysWays]

I NEEDED to see this! I have seen MANY true crime ep's on youtube about Jodi, in not one of them did I hear about Travis's treatment of her - the shaming and blaming and overwhelming hypocrisy of it all - or any part of the letter Swoop discussed. OBVIOUSLY none of it makes his murder ok, or any other violent act, but it helped me to understand their relationship better and the "treat her mean, keep her keen" element of his behavior towards her. Sounds like he was a real piece of work himself. What she should have done was walk away from his ass - easier said than done, but way easier than murdering someone and spending your life in prison.

[@kathieprater2431]

I personally can't think of another content creator who deserves the stream awards more than you. You present your content, regardless of what it is, impeccably. Honestly I wouldn't change anything. Your intelligence always shines through. I just love everything you do!

[@MrsQfot]

Agreed!

[@englishmadcow7461]

Dear Swoop, your voice is therapeutic when I'm struggling with poor health or anxiety. Thank you for being one of the most genuine positive considerate people online. So proud of your success and hope you continue to have a happy positive community.

[@JacobKaiju]

I do appreciate that you focused on Travis Alexander not being this angel or a saint, as he was a abuser/user, and no, he didn't deserve to die. The relationship was toxic both ways, and they played each other in ways. It also shows that Travis was more obsessed with being part of the cult more than actually developing a healthy relationship. As a atheist, I have been super critical on religion, especially Christianity and all there silly sects lately, and while I have no problem with someone believing in a God or so, I do think sometimes they go way to far. I wouldn't say Alexander would be more adjusted if he didn't belong to the Mormon religion, but I think some of the shame he felt (I think alot of the emotional abuse he hurled at Jodi was because of deep seeded shame) would've been lessen. That said, Jodi is indeed crazy. She's just like a blank canvas.

[@MinimumGnome]

And this is exactly why I love Swoop. I've seen lots about this case, but this is the first I'm hearing about his verbal abuse & gaslighting towards Jodi.

[@laurendrawdy9446]

I'm really glad you talked about Travis and just the way that he treated Jodi, not that it excuses what she did.... but he was definitely abusive to her.

[@johns3927]

She was obsessively stalking him but he was the abuser for not committing or cutting off the abuser. Right.

[@johns3927]

@Bambi J Where is the evidence he was abusive? According to Jodi and others who knew him, Travis was indeed a good person who was generous with his stuff as well as helping out the homeless. If Jodi and others are right, he was a way better person than I was and probably better than most of the people here trashing him.

[@johns3927]

@Bambi J It's the same sources you use to paint Travis as a monster. But all of a sudden if we use the same people who say what a great guy he is, it doesn't count any more. Hmm.

[@johns3927]

@Bambi J Where is the evidence that he was "abusive" in any way?

[@johns3927]

@Bambi J He said those things as a response to her abusive behavior. That's not "abuse".

[@Rhaygunn]

Travis was a misogynistic, hypocritical womanizer who verbally and emotionally manipulated/abused Jodi. That doesn’t mean he deserved to be murdered by her or lessens Jodi culpability in any way. The intricacies of their relationship is extremely relevant to this case and we should be able to discuss it openly without accusations of “victim blaming”. Thanks Swoop!!

[@gretchenayub7233]

As an Arizonan, I thank you for covering this story. This was the trial of the century in Arizona. It sounded like the Cardinals won the Super Bowl the moment the verdict was read. From the living room of my parents house, I can hear roaring applause from neighbors' house. It was wild.

[@spiralrose]

It’s pretty incredible, isn’t it? I’ve never seen anything like it… Maybe the O.J. Simpson case was similar. I’m thinking that if those photographs hadn’t turned up and if Travis hadn’t been so well known in the Mormon community this case might not have gotten the attention it did. Also, Jody is a very bizarre human being who doesn’t act human at all. That was also part of the intrigued.

[@banookyyy]

i'm also an arizonan and vividly remember hearing her name quite often

[@kaitlynnh42]

I literally have never clicked so fast. I saw this notification and I was like yeeeessss. I spent yesterday in the ER (chronic illness) so thank you for giving me a freaking gift lol. Also the moment with you and Bailey made me cry, you deserve this award so much!

[@PettyUniversity]

OMG I hope you feel better soon!

[@aname2198]

I literally teared up too Swoop deserves *all* the accolades

[@matthewlujan844]

Feel better!!!

[@user-lz7hg1rq1p]

I used to follow you when you made completely different content and when I decided to see what you were doing these days, I was pleasantly surprised to see you covering true crime! You are so funny in your delivery about these devastating cases, I absolutely love it

[@lavenderlylin]

This video opened up with Jodi singing O Holy Night and at that moment my soul left my body for like 30 seconds

[@PettyUniversity]

Saaaaaaame same same same

[@ari_peacock26]

OMG Thank you Swoop for pointing out the misogyny and double-standard from Travis' side. I followed this case from the very beginning on the news and Nancy Grace. It's exactly like you said, it doesn't justify what she did, but he certainly didn't help the situation with his righteous high-horse.

[@AlinaKay47]

Bailey is so precious, you deserve that award and more ❤️

[@rebeccahartmann9083]

They both just radiate an air of genuine humbleness and authenticity don't they?

[@kelseynorton575]

Wait I expected Bailey to be like 6 feet of badass and she’s so small? Idk how tall swoop is but like, Bailey is TINY

[@allisoncastle]

I have BPD, and wow am I not a fan of how that so called expert described it. Apparently she thinks every single person with BPD who has EVER been wronged has become violent with the person who wronged them? Please tell me this was taken out of context.

[@TennyConductor]

That irked me sooo much. BPD is already so stigmatized. We don't need people thinking we'll murder people on a whim on top of everything else.

[@lilithjade4363]

was looking for this comment. yeah that part made me so irritated

[@tylersatterley3219]

As someone with BPD the only person I’ve even been violent with was myself. Still unbelievable that the illness is still stigmatised and treat with such prejudice by actual mental health experts. Especially when you think about why sufferers develop the disorder.

[@allisoncastle]

@@tylersatterley3219 Completely agree w and relate to all of this 😔💗

[@Luka-DanteGodofMischief]

I have BPD and I couldn't imagine being violent with someone, the only person I've ever hurt physically is myself.

[@tazzibear86]

I was watching the Gabby Petito documentary on Peacock last night and they used clips of your videos and my boyfriend was like Babe! Thats the KZbinr you love!!🤭❤So amazing they acknowledged your hard work on reporting that case!

[@microsoftpainenthusiast8096]

Imagine marrying someone and you stuck with them for eternity. I mean, you can’t even die alone peacefully if something would go wrong.

[@agentj1326]

Mormons also believe some other really scary things, like that they can literally break into other religions' afterlives and kidnap people after forcefully baptizing their soul

[@Butterflier00]

@@agentj1326 yikes....like i'm a christian (presbyterian)...but that's weird as fuck

[@lapatti]

Thank god I'm atheist😂

[@AlexisBuhler]

@@agentj1326 nah I was raised mormon and they actually believe that if you were "righteous" and a baptized member you go wait for judgement day in paradise and every one else goes to basically a prison like purgatory but the "angel missionaries" go to work in purgatory and if u accept ur old religion was wrong or whatever and u accept mormonism u can cross over into the "paradise" waiting area .. and then everyone is judged and either placed into different "tiers" of heaven or outer darkness.. still psycho tho

[@AlexisBuhler]

​@@agentj1326 like they believe there is only one afterlife like u die no matter what religion u were on earth that u go straight to whatever purgatory or paradise you "deserve" and then wait for who knows how long til Jesus supposedly comes to earth to live for 100 years and how everything will be perfect heaven on earth for 100 years then god and Jesus or whatever judge everyone and send them to their "tiers"v...yea I left that cult asap

[@esindirik4447]

Okay I legit cried when Bailey gave you that award. She's an amazing human being just like you. There's nothing better on KZbin than seeing you two side by side. Forgive me for clicking off the video after that encounter as I just want to continue my day with that warm fuzzy feeling inside.

[@Flee-the-matrix]

I have to say I really enjoy the way you tell the story it’s very engaging. I started watching another KZbinr and the way she talks bores the hell out of me. I can’t finish her videos.

[@jadetrueblood3393]

Thank you for covering this case in particular, it was a huge deal and the news in my area went in on Jodi. I understand being upset at the circumstances but I agree with you, it was unfairly covered with many layers uncovered/not discussed traditional media. This was amazing content that I didn't know I needed.

[@sarawhyy9963]

Second

[@sgutowski58]

I’m so glad to see this story from another perspective. I’ve watched other channels cover this case and I’m so glad to see someone address Travis’s toxicity in this situation as well. Appreciate your research and commentary as always :)

[@melissamassey5214]

I could listen to you talk all day and you perfectly balance sympathy and sass/petty with incredibly made and well-researched content. Hope you continue to grow and life blesses you with the success and prosperity your hard work deserves.

[@emilyward4388]

Your face when you saw that it was Bailey that hand picked you because she admires you was so priceless🥺❤️

[@laughlater4562]

WOAHHH ! This is my first time watching a video of yours. 1) I love your makeup 2) I love your editing style 3) I like the way you didn’t sugarcoat this case Just subscribed ! 🤞🏾

[@bewarethenight6749]

I'm a new sub. I used to do true crime (writer for a channel) I really miss it. This channel gives me my fix. Truly love your work.

[@evabeezero]

This isn't even the biggest detail, but on the smile thing all she had to do was say it was just a natural reaction. When I was hospitalized for a thing that could be triggering, they took my picture and my first reaction was to smile even though it was the worst day of my life at that point.

[@audri1273]

I remember watching the Wrath of Jodi by JCS criminal psychology! So excited to see another perspective :)

[@xombecca]

I remember my roommate being obsessed with this trial when it was happening. So fucked up. Thank you for covering it with such detail! 💖

[@XuiLeeEv]

"Y'all can't even have coffee, c'mon" and just like that, every Mormon friend I had in HS was roasted to smithereens 👏

[@TennyConductor]

Dark roasted 😆☕

[@maxnum1sgameclub263]

Kopi luwak roasted!

[@dabreona]

😂😂😂

[@inbarorad8863]

Wait mormons really aren't allowed to drink coffee? I thought it was a joke What is the reasoning behind not allowing to drink coffee?

[@XuiLeeEv]

@@inbarorad8863 I believe it's the high caffeine, categorizing it as similar to alcohol. Honestly it's all BS so I don't know about the specific religious justification but it's likely specific to the Book of Mormon or 'revelations' from their church leader (who speaks directly to God, like the Pope)

[@mlee_wood3778]

I'd love if someone did a deep dive on mlms and Mormonism. They seem to really go hand in hand a lot

[@samanthasloan]

iilluminaughtii on YT has done a bunch of videos on MLMs and she mayyyyy have covered the Mormon faith at some point, not entirely sure.

[@sae200502167]

Cruel World Happy Mind covers MLMs, influencer scams and I believe she did video on religion scam as well

[@mlee_wood3778]

@@samanthasloan I used to watch her but now I just cant get over how bitchy she was on that podcast where she tried to act like she didnt know anyone else was doing anti mlm content. Like come on girl, you cant pretend to be a great researcher and also that clueless about the community you are clearly a part of

[@marcellakilgarriff]

@@mlee_wood3778 which podcast was that?

[@samanthasloan]

@@mlee_wood3778 ohhhh, I’ve never heard of the interview, I’ll try to find it to get some perspective 👌

[@kristi_vera_parker]

As usual, INCREDIBLY PHENOMENAL, SWOOP!!! 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤ This case has always stuck with me, and there is ABSOLUTELY no way Travis deserved this, and that what Jodi did was OK, but the more I hear about it (and believe me, I've heard a LOT about this case!!!) it still reminds me that Travis was NOT INNOCENT in this case either. He was completely misogynistic, he pulled he this way and that, he was incredibly cruel to her, and he was so confusing to her with all the mixed message's he sent. They were both in three wrong, but there's no excuse in order for Murder, especially one as heinous as this. And, also, may I just say as a psychologist, and a sufferer of borderline personality disorder, BPD absolutely DOESN'T make us more likely to commit violent acts. If anything, we are SO MUCH more likely to hurt and harm ourselves than other's, because we feel so much hatred and frustration over overselves, our feeling's, and our behaviour. It's a heartbreaking condition to deal with, and our heart's break for the family we have that also need to live with our action's. My beautiful beautiful son who is now 20 year's old and is an autistic person, has had to see me deal with this for his lifetime, and it hasn't been until now that he's been able to understand and comprehend the fact that this illness is no reflection on him or my adoration of him, but something borne of my incredibly abusive childhood and the way's I learned to "cope". Not something you can just undo with even YEAR'S of therapy. That said, whilst Jodi absolutely shows sign's of BPD, I truly believe she developed these symptoms during and after her relationship with Travis, and wasn't necessarily like this before. Therefore I wouldn't put her in the same category as my fellow BPD sufferers. Anyway, sorry for the ramble 😂😂😂 I LOVE your work, Swoop, and relate even more as I too have fibromyalgia, spinal issue's, depression, and anxiety. You're a SUPERSTAR!!! ✨✨✨

[@taylorrae3947]

The self defense story could've been entirely believable (by a layperson) had she not constructed multiple alibis and changed her story multiple times. I do think Travis was abusive and Jodi already had some form of mental illness. I also think the power and control in a BDSM dynamic secondary to the Mormon conditioning would be more intense and at worst, abusive.

[@winged_cat_4571]

No she stabbed him 27 times slit his throat and shot him in the head all of that is not self defense in any way

[@redwingsfan3621]

@@winged_cat_4571Cops shoot people 27 times in the name of self defense.

[@LemonLoafEucharist]

Absolutely not the level of violence it took to do all that was NOT self defense

[@taylorrae3947]

She did a vicious murder. Understanding potentially why someone does something unhinged doesn't mean we are making excuses for the crime committed. It feels that way when you're stuck in your feelings. However, nuances are important, especially in a discussion of how to prevent vicious murders relative to our knowledge of some abusive religious conditioning, our history of violence against women, and mental illness. She didn't need a man; she needed a therapist. But given the society she was in, American from a Mormon background, was she going to find a therapist before a man? Likely not. Tell me how often cult members bootstrap themselves out of major mental and verbal abuse? The Mormon teachings about women are abusive and have been used to protect abusers. Not to mention shunning & subservience. We could have a similar conversation about male murderers, but that would include the history of the patriarchy convincing men even through abusive tactics to their own that having the power means being a certain way, mental illness, and lack of societal supports as well. We keep talking about a mental illness crisis in this country to avoid actually addressing the issue of school shooters. More verbal bandaids for problems they pretend they can't find find the root causes of. Psychopaths are born into our society and actually thrive in powerful jobs. I'm not saying all psychopaths are psychos who should be locked up, just that we've lost the point of supporting society. It's funny though, because in American history we've been ever so good at supporting white male and or Christian society.

[@LemonLoafEucharist]

@@taylorrae3947 you wrote a whole essay and still didn’t explain how tf that level of violence could be considered self defense

[@witchypeoniflorallungs3044]

The interrogator must sideline as a comedian, those bite backs no bs was delightful! Both Jodi and Travis were awful, but murder isn’t the answer for this. And as a spiritual person, I do my most to respect others beliefs but Mormons just… frighten me. Deeply. Swoop, congrats on the well deserved award 💜 Love your presentation, skills, personality and overall unique style and quality about your work as well as how you address things 💜

[@Butterflier00]

mormons freak me out too....

[@jasminecolosi8423]

Why am I tearing up as Bailey was telling you that she chose you personally?!?! I love her, and you, so much!! Congratulations on your award 🤩😍🤩

[@MakaykayLAMB]

I literally started crying when you won your award. You genuinely deserve it, girl and I’m so glad people recognize that. Love your channel, love your evolution, love the work you put into every video and I feel the same way Bailey does. Lbvs. Congrats, if anyone deserves it it’s absolutely you.

[@thisisavivistanaccount7866]

You and Bailey being in the same video together in the same room brings me so much joy!!! So proud of you!!! Also you went IN on this case. I learned some new viewpoints on this case I haven’t considered

[@miriamiuricich6636]

Rewatching this before I watch the new Swoop 2 drop on Jodi Arias. It was nice to see you win the creator award again, presented by another of my faves, Bailey Sarian. Keep doing what you do Swoop. You are amazing. Hi from Australia 🇦🇺♥️

[@kamibearisaninja]

So I'm an exmormon, and there are so many people that would do mental gymnastics to say "Oh I didn't have sex, it was just butt stuff" or theres a thing callled "soaking" where they put it in but then don't move. and it "doesn't count as sex" because there isnt the movement (??????)

[@MegDoesStuff0]

Omg we love to see queens supporting queens ❤️ You and Bailey Sarian are such an incredible duo!

[@kittie594]

I know im late to the party, but I noticed something creepy. In the interrogation room, Jodi sings a line from "Here With Me" (Dido). The lyric is "I didn't hear you leave," Jodi sings "I didn't hear you breathe." She even hesitates for a moment before saying "breathe."

[@Sappylittletrees]

YES! Jodi was sick but Travis wasn't well either. Both needed therapy.

[@emilyreed28]

Its crazy how we victim blame women all the time and ash about how they acted and what they did to basically end up the responsible ones for their assault... but we skip that with cases like this were the man was obviously playing fucked up mind games with A CRAZY PERSON. Sounds like someone asked for it. Hmm. Kind of messed up when the shoe is on the other foot huh?

[@ambereyedbabygirl]

Agreeeeed

[@beautyalaritz3310]

Thisssssss

[@alishaviau5538]

I wouldn't say he asked to be killed or that he deserved it, but what he did to Jodi was truly awful as well. The double standards are crazy in society.

[@toomessy]

I kinda disagree with the last part. Saying he deserved to be killed for being a manipulative asshole is a bit weird. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[@emilyreed28]

@@toomessy sorry thats not what I meant at all. Horrible choice of words. No one deserves that shit.

[@Blooderfly17]

Girl I know I'm late to the party, but CONGRATS ON THE STREAMY! ❤❤❤

[@nikanj6]

I've looked at a ton of Jodi Arias videos in the past. Your approach and story structure is by far one of the most original and informative. Well done. 👏

[@brittanyann8964]

CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT HOW HAPPY I AM FOR SWOOP. LIKE BAILEY?!?!? A DAMN AWARD?!?! A SCAVENGER HUNT SHE PERSONALLY MADE YOU?!.! Congrats babe. You truly deserve it.

[@brittsmitt701]

This is such a good documentary I learned so much and I knew a bit about this case. Also you should cover Magdelena Solis that case is a straight up horror movie and I haven't found a lot on the internet about it.

[@drama2u]

I once dated a Mormon dude, who broke every rule of being a Mormon. He begged me not to tell his family about his lifestyle in the city (sex, drugs, gambling, drinking, unhealthy choices). And yes, he cheated on me in my presence, and completely denied it by gaslighting me. I dumped him right away and moved on. That was 10 years ago.

[@TamaraLynnchambers]

Dude you have done such an incredible job of building inside jokes, and vibes, and a very genuine brand (does that makes sense? Not calling it a fake brand but like a put together and recognizable but genuine brand💙) . You deserve awards and an audience and im glad you’re here

[@noodles5004]

Yes Swoop! You're the only person who has addressed this angle. No doubt she pyscho but Travis really gaslit Jodie. That does not excuse beating, stabbing and shooting someone in the face but somehow people feel sorry for Betty Broderick!! 🤯

[@MsClaudiaDuran]

I've heard about this case many times before, but I just had to hear your take because I love how you tell stories. Keep up the great work!

[@nottheoneforyou]

I followed this case when it happened. I live in Arizona and I remember seeing how big it was for everyone here. I even drove past the court house one day that they had court and it was packed with people outside.

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

Lol at first I was like "well 82,000 emails isn't *that* bad if it's someone you love in a new relationship I guess" but then you mention it was 130 emails a day and I'm like oh

[@nicolekaye1236]

Yes and they were together maybe 5 months and she barely knew for 2 years! I read Juan Martinez book and there’s a lot of information about Jodi and who she was growing up and actually puts the pieces together of why she acted the way she did during the trial. She was very into herself and definitely looked down on every and anyone especially her family. I’m sure that she tried to make a life up to tell Travis because they are to opposites and he found out she was lying and never spoke about her past and was telling her family he was the love of her life a couple days after meeting him, broke up with her boyfriend and getting baptized into his religion idk how he didn’t see the red flags but if she lied how she did during the trial I can imagine the lengths she went when it came to telling Travis what he wanted to hear

[@kellyfarrar6639]

Im two years late, but I am LIVING for Bailey and Swoop together

[@jessig9009]

Not me crying at SWOOP and Bailey talking while she gets the award. My heart 😭🤍 you are doing amazing SWOOP