Peugeot 207cc Air Con not working

Peugeot 207cc Air Con not working
The peugeot 207cc 1600cc engine is fitted with an electrically operated engine thermostat which when goes faulty can shut down the air con from working

[@hazdyparadis2753]

Very informative video. Incidently, i took my Peugeot 207 for servicing today. My mechanic told me, faulty thermostat sensor apparently is a very common problem.

[@the_retired_mechanic]

Done loads of these as they are fitted in various forms to other makes of car that use the Peugeot engine. Anyways top tip for the clip at the back pipe. Grind about 2 mm off the ends of the clip as they foul on the back of the engine as pushed in if not really lined up and makes it easier to push home and 2nd tie a piece of cotton to the middle of clip and run that out to your other hand. If when pushing it on it slips off and falls you struggle to find it or retrieve it. With the cotton you just pull it back up and try try again.

[@alan4x]

thanks for that, like the bit with the string, that is genius😜

[@ventsislavivanov4542]

Hi, great Video, just change thermostat on peugeot 3008 . Really sh.. job. But I lost the pin somewhere on the back of the engine . My question is can I leave it without that pin the pipe is in not movement at all ?

[@leeregan8017]

Just done a Citroen C4 and I spent ages on that clip and had to walk away a couple of times to chill and then go back to it, really not a good job if u have hands bigger than those on a clock ⏰!!! Great video as usual 👍👍👍👍👍

[@JamesSmith-tv3pz]

Excellent advice and the guy (Alan) knows his stuff!......

[@petermajk5869]

Great advice a lot of knowledge ...just doing mine tomorrow thanks

[@maxpayne98383]

I did one of these the other day . Originally fitted a AC compressor as there was power to it and it wouldn't operate. Then fitted the thermostat housing which there was a fault for. That clip was a pain to get back in. However it turns it it was a faulty compressor in the end

[@bennyintheshed7821]

Thankyou Alan 🙂 Just the info I needed, now to swap out that flippin' housing!

[@alan4x]

cheers

[@jaykent6645]

Thanks Alan, have done a few of those housings they are a real pain, however did u measure the resistance on the heating element on the old removed unit, to see what it was as i have two i have measured and they are around 15.2 ohm, would be interesting to know what yours read to make the Ecu throw a code. Thanks again. Kind regards Jay

[@JayJayJaroo]

Replaced 2 of these last week on Minis one of those needed a new plastic coolant pipe which runs from the thermostat housing to the back of the water pump.Only annoyance is getting that retaining clip in! Very common problem

[@alan4x]

yeah, i don't want to do another one any time soon lol

[@roberthorwat6747]

Interesting. Wonder if this is why my 1.4 pug 206 air con don't work. (No click and 0V at the compressor electrical feed with the engine running and A/C switch on) I shall find out. Thanks again Alan. Another great one!

[@chasmcl42]

You are the House MD of the mechanical world.

[@alan4x]

cheers

[@bormisha]

Brilliant video, as always!

[@alan4x]

thank you😜

[@qasimyousaf2867]

Hi Allan. I usually don't bother with commenting on KZbin but I find your videos quite interesting. This is probably the first comment I've ever done. Anyway I am only just out of college and about a year into Arnold's and nowhere near the experience you have in the trade. Is it possible that the air con is being cut off due to the fact the condenser carries heat, therefore in the event the engine is overheating the condenser is unnecessary excess heat to dissapate? If you get a chance let me know what you think. Ps I would love the chance to work in a garage like yours I would have been tempted to apply for the position in your recent videos however I don't think I would have the experience your looking for. Also I live in glasgow lol. Qasim

[@AntonyGibbons]

Great video! I can verify that It is indeed a pig of a job!!! Even though I had the code, and replaced the thermost, my aircon still doesn't work ... heyho.

[@RustyKombi]

Well done mate, thank you!

[@InpointmediaAuSydney]

Hi, 207 1.6 petrol. All hell breaks loose. Temp sky high when engine cold and STOP on dash. Change out both a/c relay and replace thermostat with new sensor. No change, multiple other codes too. Swapped back old temp sensor. No change same problem. Car runs normally, fan stays on for long time after switch off as thinks it overheating. I don't think a/c is kicking in either despite new relay. Have deleted codes with scanner and they come straight back. Question: are there two temp sensors? There is a sensor into the head with a single pin right next to the one that goes into the thermo housing. Should I also change that out? What else could be causing the problems? Tearing hair out and looking forward to your expert opinion. Cheers Jeremy in Brisbane Australia

[@craigdiamondbrite]

Great video 👌

[@leonmurray2207]

Golden video! Solved my riddle

[@johnwilkins7782]

Did mine yesterday, coolant leaking down the back of gearbox, heard the O'ring on the connection for the pipe around the back is prone to fail. Fitted new housing, starting putting heater matrix hoses on. Only to realise one of the connections for the hose is different. Used new O'ring and gasket then fitted old one back on. Not leaking as bad, but on the look out for the correct version for my car,. 🤦🏼‍♂️.

[@mechtechmechanical1571]

the error code is p0599 piloted thermostat control short circuit to battery plus this also used on the Peugeot rczwith the bmw engine anyway great info

[@Robyrama76]

Ciao Alan... Complimenti per il video 👍👍. Facet è una azienda Italiana!!! Hi Alan ... Congratulations on the video 👍👍. Facet is an Italian company !!!

[@alan4x]

hi, hello😜

[@gabrielungur5837]

Roby Rama Tre settimane fa ho sostituito il termostato di una Peugeot 207 con uno della FACET . spero che questo duri di più perché l’originale si è crepato a 66.000 km.

[@marklittler784]

Yeah I had a 605 the air con blew you away it certainty worked. 😃

[@markthomas5101]

This is virtually the same as the Mini as both manufacturers share the same engine. I discovered this when I did the same job on a 1.4 Mini.

[@alessandroturano9808]

For refitting the back hose I managed to do it making the ends of the clip a little bit more flat

[@turbonostics]

Really good Video. I just have a question. Was there an Error Message before you had changed the part? My car says " Engine System Management Faulty". Was hoping its the same problem. Thank you so much

[@alan4x]

i really can't remember now it was a while back, sorry

[@Himynameis72]

hi i have the exact same symptoms on my wife car but i do not have that error code , do i still condem the thermostat ?

[@selectajaht3678]

I’m hoping you can help I have a 307cc with no AC, I had a leak on the condenser and fixed that had a re gas and no ac, they advised a new pressure switch and still no ac, the compressor doesn’t engage at all, this is the 4th garage I’ve been to, any ideas?

[@bennyintheshed7821]

Job done Alan but now I still have the "Engine Fault Repair Needed" fault code coming up on the screen on my Citroen DS3. What scanner did you use and were you able to reset the fault with it?

[@alan4x]

hi, i used a snap on solus ultra but there are many scan tools available, if the fault is fixed you should be able to erase the code

[@bennyintheshed7821]

I have a scan tool on the way@@alan4x Up until I inquired about it with a local supplier I was unaware there was such a big difference between an OBD scan tool and a system scanner. Could be something to bring up in a video 🙂

[@CocinaAncestral]

Hello Alan do you have the part number of FACET Part you replace ? Thanks in advance.

[@jimcameron4672]

Great stuff

[@EmGee2524]

Look like Simon Pegg lol. Thanks for the video though

[@bmb3333]

Hi Alan your vedios great, I have Peugeot 207 2007 I called auto electrician he stuck in, nothing happened, he said it's flooded fule,after cleaning plugs nothing happened crank but not starting The fule coming in keeping it flood more, like he said aircon, disabled too all wiring checked, ECU reading, battery unpluged,jumper starting, ecu unpluged and back on ,sensors checked,coils...Not starting It's pain, No air going to engine to start stuck stuck 😑 The vacuum pump changed and the problem started Any idea 💡please any advice??

[@Mike-yq6jg]

great many thanks

[@Ifixitagain]

any idea what goes wrong with the thermostat? is it possible to check with a multimeter without pullin the whole jobby out?

[@crpth1]

Yes, it is possible. Kind of a pain in the a__. Because of the position but definitely possible. To test the electrical side of it without removal. Ideally by back probing on the plug it's the easiest way.

[@zlataneduard4162]

Hi Alan, I own a 2008 Mondeo Mk4 1.8 TDCI, 125 HP. I've owned the car for 3 years now, I didn't have any serious problems with it, but it has 2 ,,small,, issues that bother me,first one is the air condition, it has enough gas but the cold air it,s not cold enough, when it,s really hot outside, I live in Denmark so the summers are not that hot, that's why I still have this car. And the second one is, under heavy acceleration (warm engine) it gives some black smoke, no power issues! What do you think? Thanks!

[@alan4x]

the air con would need to be checked out first...you can put a thermometer in the air vent,,,4-6 degrees centegrade would be as good as it will get. these cars do not have a dpf so black smoke is normal but could also be the egr valve but if its only a small amount i would not worry...if you were losing power then it would be worth looking into it as a split turbo hose could cause black smoke but also power loss

[@zlataneduard4162]

@@alan4x thank you!👍

[@waqarfarooq2826]

Hi Alan. I install the thermostate in peugeot 308 .heat enging temperature is also good but problem is air condition is not working. And also at low temperature air blow hot air ..please help me😑

[@sandris_is_my_dad]

What was the total price for all work?

[@ThomasBlair.]

Wife’s car temp shoots up to 90 while driving. Aircon doesn’t work. Is this related do you think? 5 door 207 model.

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

You, Sir have a new subscriber.. I am currently working on a 207CC with short to earth of three sensors.. The fan comes on after about 5 - 10 seconds (Rad Fan goes on full speed) with codes relating to disengageable water pump control thermostat and oil pressure control, live data suggests A/C is switched on Thermostat at 99% ... When I disconnect the water pump control motor the car no longer logs any codes and returns to normal. I put an ohmeter across the motor and it's two terminals are connected together. Is this normal or do they connect via the windings.. Any help would be appreciated as I have spent hours on it, even the ECU has been sent off a checked..

[@Ian.........]

Hello Alan. My Mondeo MK3 2.0 petrol has exactly the same symptoms. The AC works for about 10 mins. The cooling fan cuts in. I've had the gas checked twice and it's full. I've also cleaned the cabin sensor that had a tiny fan on it. Do you have any ideas as to what could be the cause with it to cut out? Cheers mate.

[@alan4x]

well i know your car has no electric thermostat but i would be looking at a weak compressor clutch

[@Ian.........]

@@alan4x thanks Alan. Someone said about fitting shims to space the clutch out. I may give this a try. Thanks once again.

[@Clicksystems]

On mk3 mondeo it’s usually the compressor clutch. It wears and the gap gets too big on the clutch. Then as compressor gets hot the shaft expands internally and gap gets too big for the electro magnet to pull the clutch in so it disengages. Then when it cools down the shaft contracts and it starts working again. Fix is to remove the clutch plate on the compressor and either remove one of the shims or install a replacement shim from a kit ford sell to get correct gap.

[@Ian.........]

@@Clicksystems thanks for the information. Im gonna have a go at fixing it today. I'll get some thinner shims if needed. Thanks once again.

[@Ian.........]

I took a shim out of the AC clutch and it's now working fine. Thanks for the help gents.

[@philipnewton7524]

Allen Cool it man Phil in stoke

[@robertodonovan4937]

Hi Alan, In my 1.6TDCI Mk5 Mondeo (PSA engine) I have a similar problem. Driving car from cold, after 7miles the temp needle reaches 1/2way and then climbs to 3/4 when the High Coolant Temperature alarm activates. Up to the 1/2way temp point the hot air was coming into the cabin. Beyond 1/2way without going at the temp controls the air goes cold. I ordered the temperature sensor but was sent the wrong sized 1. Ford dealership opened this morning and they are recommending to replace the whole engine :( .The side wall of the coolant reservoir is blackened. They think theres probably a crack in the engine allowing exhaust back into the coolant system. Not sure if they are just pulling a fast 1 to recoop cash lost with Covid19! Thought it would be a simple enough case of replacing the thermostat housing but now im looking at €4200 :( . Any truth in their diagnosis you think! cheers Bob

[@alan4x]

if your clear coolant expansion bottle is black inside it is a sign of engine gasses in the cooling system..also if a lot of pressure is building up inside the header tank then you could have a head gasket failure

[@robertodonovan4937]

@@alan4x Hi Alan, thanks for your advise. I took it to an independent Mechanic and I asked him to do what i asked Ford to do!! (replace the thermostat Housing & coolant, a much cheaper fix!). Its been going grand since for the last 2 months! Been keeping an eye on the coolant level and it seems ok. Anyway I enjoy your videos, learn a lot from them!

[@floordropper25]

"It's a bit of a pig to get off" true

[@tam1381]

Why do car company's try to reinvent the wheel ? Another over engineered idea. Nice video.

[@t5jerry]

did you notice at 6.46 the BROKEN part of the new thermostat or is that the OLD part ???

[@user-ml9bg2ns7g]

t5jerry thats the old thermostat as i saw the broken piece at start of video

[@alan4x]

well spotted... i was holding the old unit

[@menderesurun7569]

Thx man

[@alan4x]

Happy to help

[@fatahfatah1966]

Thanks *****

[@Clicksystems]

Them housings are common, it’s been revised numerous times, so I only fit genuine now just some people don’t like the cost of genuine lol. On the Turbo version retail is around £120 give or take. Another thing to watch out for is those temperature sensors, they can fail and then coolant starts wicking up the wiring loom to the fuse box and engine ECU. Loads of Peugeot’s have had water damaged looms, fuseboxes from coolant leaking from the coolant sensor, or washer pump. It’s probably why the plug got cut off, coolant corroded the connector, so they cut the plug off and used sealant which also stopped coolant going up the wiring loom. But I also hate those clips on the back, pain the backside. Flimsy pipe on back has also been revised at some point, that and the plastic water pumps. Changed from plastic to metal because of cracking.

[@alan4x]

thanks for your knowledge ..thats very interesting to know..cheers

[@sciatl2505]

GM cars use the same type and they goes bad a lot too

[@chasmcl42]

Hi Allan.

[@alan4x]

hi charles... your the first viewer 😜

[@janisvaskevics93]

Judging by construction of thermostat, PSA engineers are drunks or PSA is one greedy french company.

[@robertgibson7716]

you and me both know its a money spinner for car makers why oh why put plastic next to very hot fluids or metal it makes me mad lol good vid mate and i see your stll using the lube keep them coming Vauxhall are finished now owend by the frogs to

[@Stop..carry-on]

ROBERT GIBSON how about bmw using a plastic electric water pump in x5s - absolutely bullshit , people love banging on about German cars being good - there as crap as any other cars these days

[@Clicksystems]

These engines also had plastic water pumps, lol they modified them changing back to aluminium.

[@williamwoods8022]

ROBERT GIBSON - Vauxhall were finished a long time a ago. All they have been for a very long time is badges stuck on German and Asian designed cars that were made in lots of different countries with only a few Astras made here and their Combo van is just a rebadged FIAT and the bigger vans rebadged Renaults and they are all now Peugeot/Citroens because GM has been going down the pan for years and sold Opel/Vauxhall to them and now what is left of Vauxhall will probably at some point be shut down as part of a future rationalisation and cost cutting by that French company especially as the French and German governments will pump money into keeping the car plants going in their countries while the British government will not. Can see the Nissan plant in this country being vulnerable as well since Nissan is still in trouble with not making profits and getting slated for their unreliablity even after Renault stepping in and saving them from going bankrupt years ago - cant see Renault putting up with much more of that especially as they are making huge profits and with the problems at Land Rover/Jaguar as well it doesnt look like a rosy future for what is left of the car industry in this country with them all being foreign owned especially with another banking crash looking likely as well at some point.

[@armunro]

I had a tdci 1.4 which was PSA engine and was amazed the water pump was plastic. Interestingly the after market one I put in on the timing belt change was made from aluminium, which was a relief!

[@crpth1]

@@armunro - "...I put in on the timing belt change..." That statement alone says something about it! The water pump was changed WHEN you changed the timing belt not because it was broken... ;-)

[@darrenmeears4667]

WTF were is your green T-shirt didn't recognise you at first That aside great video pugs are nothing but trouble 😆😅😄😃😂👍👌👏

[@alan4x]

lol, all three are in the wash... i actually had to work this week

[@ThePigmejs]

could it be this 207 is Monika's car? Just guessing :)

[@alan4x]

no its not😜

[@Ad-gn8pl]

Typically French then lol! Only owned a pug once (306) and you always got that smell of warm coolant in the cabin. Mate of mine had a 3008, same smell 😂

[@crpth1]

A d - Presently on the stable. 106 (from 96), 107, 307, Picasso, Renault Trafic and Toyota Yaris. Ex. 306, 206, etc. NEVER had any smell of coolant in the cabin in ANY of them. You guys should fix your cars if that's the case! ;-)

[@mishabjaved6870]

207 is my first car. I hate it now. In just one month i have spent Over 100$ in repairing. Nevee ever buy a peugeot if u r in GCC

[@rindersomai4186]

Peugeot 207cc cabrio elektrisch raam hand matig dicht

[@user-ml9bg2ns7g]

Air con not working on a soft top lmfao

[@alan4x]

lol

[@Chriswales]

I know some don't like the quality of French cars, but the metal roof didn't look that soft to me ...

[@mikeham8698]

Go have ur teeaaa you talk so much

[@NoGoMunich]

Scheiss motor.... Elektrik und Verarbeitung ist beschissen

[@robjames8581]

Thank you Alan, Great and informative video. Can you add paypal to your account so I can donate the £2.