Phanteks P600s - This One is Different!

[@Vestar_Voss]

I bought this basically because of the front panel power button and usb ports (i dislike when they are positioned in the upper part of the case, or lateral), and because it is pratically the only case without windows that offers a great airflow (i've bought the black no-window model). It is really a great case.

[@ErnestJay88]

Dislike this kind of review format, use old format because that is informative, we want to know, how many hard drive brackets ?, how many SSD bracket ?, is it come with fan controller ?, is it come with LED strip or have an LED controller ?, is it support E-ATX or larger motherboard ? etc.

[@megamixa]

So you want a video of him reading a data sheet? You can do that yourself. A review is supposed to be his opinion on it. Not him reading off data sheet facts. Don't be lazy. Do your research.

[@georged2257]

yeah I disagree he is supposed to put his input and opinions on the case

[@Ryan-hv3kn]

@@megamixa A review is supposed to be a review of the item. Don't pretend it's normal not to list these type of things in a review.

[@BINGBINGHERO]

well, he needs to go to CES, so maybe no time?

[@Ryan-hv3kn]

@@BINGBINGHERO Then don't review it or title it was a quick overview.

[@thathorrorshow4126]

I like the fact I can remove the front panel

[@DavidJJD]

Agreed

[@thathorrorshow4126]

@@DavidJJD I like cases that can go both ways. Like the 500m.

[@peral9728]

Are there cases where you can't?

[@thathorrorshow4126]

@@peral9728 well, an example of my 570X where technically you can, you remove 4 thumb screws from the front, but it's not built to you use it like that. Besides the fact it looks ugly without the glass panel. Now the 500M from Cooler Master is build so you can choose which panel you want to see on the front. I like that.

[@heart4011]

Pearl Vesper *cough* All NZXT cases *cough*

[@miloarlinghaus9317]

Phanteks is shaking the industry up so much. I can't wait to see where they go.

[@areksoo]

I like that they come up with innovative ideas, but I hate that those ideas are not always executed well.

[@MindaugasSnegirevas]

FD kills it.

[@antonhelsgaun]

Meh

[@gorgonramsey3719]

@@MindaugasSnegirevas Yup, and so does NZXT and (partially) Thermaltake with their H700i/View 37 cases

[@EvanXDev]

This is a boring case. They need to research more creative idea's like the Shift X and stick with premium aluminium chasis.

[@race_four6955]

This is the single best looking case I have ever seen, I love it so much. I wasn't planning on upgrading my case, or spending $150 on a case, but this case is perfect.

[@Noodlepunk]

Did you get it? I got one a couple years ago and I can't suggest it enough. I got the white one. But easy to build in and swap parts and its quiet also recently swapped out my motherboard and it didn't have a lot of dust inside!

[@race_four6955]

@@Noodlepunk I decided to get the p500a after realized that the side profile for the p600s is similar to the p300a. I still think it looks beautiful though.

[@GAMER-rw8jo]

$150 and no release date so far

[@kylewhoo7276]

its just a evolv x without as much, not worth 150

[@brotherdubious]

@@kylewhoo7276 You do realize the Evolv X is $200 right? So the fact that it it is $50 cheaper with the same interior/build quality and better airflow would make this a better buy

[@bigpoint58]

It´s out now. At least here in Germany at Caseking

[@troyl5929]

@@kylewhoo7276 What is this stupid ass comment.....

[@fynkozari9271]

What i dislike about p600s, twice as heavy as my 15lbs p400s, it has a roof, too many ssd brackets, hidden usb3 ports, too big, so expensive for so many useless features.

[@lazerbrainzz]

Phanteks just keeps on bringing great new stuff.

[@Artkidtek]

I'm building my first PC workstation. It looks like when it comes to AIRFLOW the Corsairs, Fractal, and Phantek are leading the way. Right now I'm leaning towards the Phantek P600s. I dont care about tempered glass or anything being see through and I also plan on removing that front panel from the P600s and never puting it back on.

[@HardwareCanucks]

You can get a solid side panel too. Skip the glass altogether. -D.

[@Rhoadspc]

I love this case just did a buildi in it and couldn’t believe the quality highest quality case I’ve ever used

[@DKM-uy5kv]

Yeah.... all I want is for Phanteks to make a front panel like that for the P400s

[@germgoatz2014]

exactly what i thought

[@GAMER-rw8jo]

right?? i was hoping this was going to be a compact atx enclosure to improve or replace the p400s

[@novalution86]

I did that myself. cut the front panel open, then glued a fine metal mesh to it. It was pretty simple to to and works perfect 😁

[@yaseenk4954]

@@novalution86 Do you have an uploaded pic of it?

[@gradient602]

Me too

[@blazemonkey]

Thanks! The first 4 seconds of this video are extremely satisfying to watch, repeatedly, after buying this case and doing the exact same thing.

[@OG_Stu]

Hey, hows the case ? I'm considering buying it with a 360 or a 420 radiator if I can find one, and would appreciate your opinion

[@blazemonkey]

@@OG_Stu Hey, I cant believe I've had this case for 7 months already.. Over all, its not bad, but there are a few annoyances which may or not matter to you. Mostly with the 3.5" drive bays.. I cannot fit more than 2 in the case with any normal sized power supply. The HDD brackets are incredibly difficult to remove, and they don't seem to dampen the noise from the HDD's at all like other cases with rubber grommets. Otherwise, great air flow, good construction.. I would go with a 420mm rad for this case as it gives you all the space at the top for one.

[@OG_Stu]

@@blazemonkey nice. Thanks dude. I only have one hdd, and 2 ssds so that wouldn't be a problem for me. Have a nice say.

[@Gripen90]

The case without the front cover, reminds me a lot of the older Antec Elevenhundred that really was an airflow champion.

[@G0dyo]

Yes indeed I has that once

[@WarioNumberOne]

1:20 when he says "a little bit" it makes the sound of SpongeBob's footsteps

[@brumby92]

Hahahahaha I need to loop that.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Very cool experiment with that airflow meter. Glad, I saw how much difference those panels make. (:

[@turkeyphant]

Even the most rudimentary fluid dynamics makes it clear that point air velocity is a meaningless metric. Hence why fans are measured in volume/time.

[@serv27438]

@@turkeyphant But is a fan moves x volume of air per hour and sits at 300ft/h, if then they're at 100ft/h, you should see about a reduction of a 66% in airflow, but it's not a scientific test

[@turkeyphant]

@@serv27438 You don't seem to understand the difference between length and volume which explains your confusion.

[@serv27438]

Speed ​​is just speed. You need the "surface" by which the air moves to know the volume of air that is moving. You could make an idea of ​​how much air is coming in the case but would be very innacurate. You need to know the length, width and speed (how fast depth increases) to know the volume of air moved. But, for sure, that's not the way to do it.

[@turkeyphant]

​@@serv27438 Yes speed is just speed. Which is exactly the point of my comment. That's why I wrote "Even the most rudimentary fluid dynamics makes it clear that point air velocity is a meaningless metric. Hence why fans are measured in volume/time". I thought my point was obvious. Airspeed at a single point is a meaningless metric. I mentioned the correct unit which is Q (volumetric flow rate). And hinted at the greater point that laminar flow in one point in space says nothing about thermal properties. I'm not sure how I can put it more simply. Go back to fluid dynamics and thermodynamics 101 to work out why air speed at a point means nothing and why it can't tell you anything about thermal performance. p.s. In case you don't remember basic unit analysis, the "surface" you mention is the surface area of the fan and gets you to a volume and would give you a figure that's actually very accurate but not very useful. It's also incorrect to say "You need to know the length, width and speed (how fast depth increases) to know the volume of air moved". That actually gives you the flow rate. To know the volume you also need to know the time which again should be self-evident from the units of Q.

[@NaoVII]

*hoping this case to cost around $60, 2 mins into the video i'm starting to feel anxious*

[@GAMER-rw8jo]

lololololol

[@RiseAbovePride]

Add a 1 to the front and you're a winner!

[@Liatin1]

Any mitx cases?

[@lmaox265]

meshify c

[@pocholopan.983]

@@lmaox265 That supports up to ATX tho i think he meant just mitx only cases

[@tmanofpolley]

Meshify mini

[@frostbitenation4710]

@@tmanofpolley Thats micro-atc not itx.

[@Athasin]

New ones? Besides Streacom DA2? No.

[@Ib_h7]

If in a rush: Will be 149 USD, no word on release - but been waiting for this for a few months and December was expected release directly from Phanteks so probably now straight after CES Good interior layout (imo) - offers vertical graphics card mount Front cover on, tilted or off is not much of an improvement, taking mesh off is the most significant, dust filter - stock fans I believe, but Phanteks' stock ("unscientific" testing) Stylish and quiet with decent airflow (based on unscientific testing)

[@vlad_8011]

So i see cons: - mesh with metal is much better, material used for this "mesh" will catch dust and will be hard to clean (only water) - with water it will loose its strengh with time - its just less expennsive for them in production and they call it feature? - Dust filter access in 2019 with removing whole panel? Really? Its 2010 or 2019? - No dust filter on top (that mesh is not dust filter, it will catch dust but will also pass dust come in case) - No HDD cage..... I'm using Sharkon HDD vibe fixer (5.25 tray with orings) , so that not big issue for me, but to others it may be BIG issue.

[@geek2solve]

case without cable routing holes with grommet sucks. phantek should fix their evolv x too.

[@JPanzarella1989]

I like Phanteks and I own the P400. I was hoping for a decent upgrade from the P400 to something in the sub $100 area. This seems like an Evolv disguised as an Eclipse series and priced that way, too.

[@Akiwaaa_]

I always wanted the P400A with 3 more rgb fans for the top. But after looking at this case, dude I've never knew non-rgb cases can be this beautiful :). Screw the RGB I'll go with this one, specially the white (since the white gave me STORMTROOPER feelings).

[@CinematographyDatabase]

That 2080 holy crap

[@Okeystev]

Now we have a 3090

[@Justabadplayer12]

killionaireTV yes but i think 3080 is much better cus 1. almost twice cheaper 2. more compatible with most cases while you have to buy additional stuff for a 3090

[@srivenkateswaraswamy3403]

@@Justabadplayer12 3080 has some issues

[@meer2477]

NOW WE HAVE RADEON 6900XT

[@pretzel3779]

In terms of raw performance (productivity and gaming), 3090 is better, but it just isn’t a good value choice, unlike the 6900xt.

[@AmedeeBoulette]

What?!? You guys are in Montreal?! Quel quartier? Proudly born and raised in Rosemont!

[@ReHWolution]

Mike, HWC's CEO, is in Montreal. They already left for CES by now!

[@plazasta]

I had exactly the same reaction!

[@ChUcK2001]

Cool didn't know the idea of HWC was from Montreal, my home place.

[@matteo0196]

If only Phanteks can sell that front cover compatible with the P400 case!

[@ramza813]

DAMNIT!! I JUST bought the corsair 570X a week ago!!! EvolvX was in my top 5 choices. P600 has it all with THREE 140mm in the front and Type C!! I like the black aluminium too Dimitri!!

[@k1ng617]

The problem with your testing is air moving doesn't equal lower temps if you just move the same air over and over.

[@storybookbus0314]

3:51 The lights on that card are amazing! Is that the 2080 TI from the extreme ITX build which wouldn't fit? Also, what motherboard are you guys using in this video's build?

[@Jarymut]

I love this matt black. And no RBG? Yes!

[@MrEditsCinema]

We need more mesh cases, upgraded to an cooler master h500 from an nzxt s340 elite and my temps have dropped 10 degrees lol

[@GholaTleilaxu]

Lol, 10 years ago when we had mesh the cry was "we need more tempered glass in the front and RGB fans!"

[@010111010110]

It is not boring! It is elegant!

[@kevadu]

Does that mesh 'dust filter' actually filter dust? The holes are huge...

[@ashberic]

of course not. if dust particles in your house are that big you need to move. but it lets them advertise it having a dust filter.

[@Najvalsa]

Seems like that's the front mesh like panel with the dust filter behind it, and the dust filter's got standard fine holes.

[@dawsonclark1364]

@@ashberic That is a seperate mesh panel, has a dust filter right behind it.

[@noel2298]

theo mar Damn who hurt you?

[@ultratech6671]

There's a dust filter behind. That's for airflow improvement.

[@mightylubu1826]

This case is awesome, but the only I dislike is that there are no rubber grommets for the cable pass throughs. Can't decide if I want to get this or the Define R6 TG.

[@les8947]

i try to like the design from fractal , nzxt, corsait etc, etc but i keep coming back to phanteks idk lol

[@Mr.P.Griffith]

I just modded the front panel of my phanteks eclipse p400 tg because of the little airflow.. I'm glad they kept the sleek look of those cases but that case branch needed better airflow big-time.

[@sarfaraz.hosseini]

I was really excited by this case at CES, but I've been getting note into ITX cases like the Dan A4 and Ghost S1 which make appreciate smaller cases, and would probably prefer the compact ATX version. Great case for what it is though, hopefully they address those shortfalls in the Evol X too.

[@nniivekkappo7544]

Holy fuck! Dmitri a phanteks fanboy, new phanteks case, hardwarecanucks case video. Nothing you can ask for more.

[@ash05]

3:35 That scared me!

[@hexiron3852]

I love the colors personally.

[@riomigz1305]

Man, I want this case. Just what I need.

[@RangerBadger19]

Just bought one, amazing case

[@garamon7861]

Im happy with my P350x: integrated rgb, sleeker front panel, has TG, no stupid sliding turtle shells, and its 1/3 the price!

[@alexandrubalaban5266]

Oliver Toh 1/3 of the options. I have my p600s with two 360 rads that keep my i7 8700k oc ed at 5.3ghz, nice and cool.

[@mr_beezlebub3985]

I hope they make a version with a solid metal side panel. Not a fan of tempered glass

[@samuelwhite3173]

They won't.

[@alexandrubalaban5266]

They do :)

[@zahar027]

Oh wow, a phanteks case that doesnt choke airflow? Didn't know they can do if

[@fakhrimub6760]

more manufacturer should embrace the full on air flow design like Meshify and PC O11 Air imo

[@scyfox.]

All black is good in this all RGB 2020 trend

[@bapudd]

still we are waiting for that damn good stamp from Dimitri..

[@Krystalmyth]

Yeaaaah, I think I'd have appreciated temp benchmarks. How are we supposed to compare these numbers to literally any other case?

[@samuelwhite3173]

You guess of course! HardwareCanucks always does terrible reviews.

[@InvetorXD]

yeee I like this case. It has a lot of potential and can be used by most kinds of builds!

[@dchousoseiso]

It looks like an Evolv X had a baby with my P350X

[@BatDrass]

What are the chances that front pannel will fit on the ol choke your fans p400?

[@horsthenkel3685]

i woud love to see a case like this with 280 rad in the front and 2 5.25 zoll slots for BR and Fan Controller

[@Cloudy5.0]

Wish they'd add some 2.5" mounts on the PSU shroud. Shame to have so much space there and not end up using it.

[@c4lv1n26]

you know what, i want to see something similar to the cm haf xb evo, atx sized lan box and that case seems be the best one that was on the market. i don't know why companies are not going down that route.

[@samuelwhite3173]

It is incredibly ugly.... Terrible.

[@c4lv1n26]

@@samuelwhite3173 but you cannot deny that haf xb evo served its purpose being a high air flow case at that size. and because of its design, you can stick it under the desk and forget about it and it came with a windowed version at the time it was for sale. also what i'm saying is that this whole side of the market (small form factor case that takes a 7 slot atx mobo) is wide open for the big companies to take yet there is nothing from them within the past 6-7 years

[@samuelwhite3173]

@@c4lv1n26 There are much better SFF options. I mean truly SFF as in under 15 liters. NCase M1, Thor-Zone MJONlIR I, etc..

[@c4lv1n26]

@@samuelwhite3173 there are pretty good sff options but can they fit a 2nd gpu. i dont think so. and as i said a "small form factor case that takes a 7 slot atx mobo" is pretty self explanatory. for a small size it would open up a whole slew of upgrade options.

[@Magiiicko]

I like Phanteks because they makes their prototapes to reality (production).

[@Ib_h7]

Using phantek stock fans for the airflow test? Interested in getting this case + have 140mm Noctua fans

[@GTechOfficial]

OOO I LOVE IT!!! Please tell me you're going to do a further, in-depth look at this case because I have REALLY HIGH HOPES FOR IT!!! I've been looking for something to upgrade to from my Corsair 450D.

[@soumikmuhuri5882]

Does this case support CoolerMaster's Maker 8 cooler? Cause it's a huge cooler, and I'm not getting any case to fit that. 😑

[@TastierBackInThe80s]

Would it kill some of these case manufacturers to give the cases some COLOUR?

[@carolsamways3759]

Thank You. That was very helpful.

[@stevenwaibel6856]

Good job, I like the new air flow tool thing keep it up

[@bennnevans]

When will it be released?

[@kristoffer8740]

Late January I think.

[@bennnevans]

@@kristoffer8740 thank you

[@dekho09]

Great video man

[@adelaide7822]

I was hoping it supported a dvd / cd or blu ray player.

[@Funkzillian]

MY NEXT CASE HAS ARRIVEDDD RIGHTT IN TIMEEEEE!!!

[@areksoo]

It's not released yet, but hopefully soon. They've been talking about this case just as long as the Evolv X.

[@alexgottmituns7049]

Can you test that case with two gpu's?

[@SilasCole88]

What did you have to get in order to put your gpu vertical on this case?

[@Macgeek]

Looks like a facelifted Enthoo Pro M IMO

[@kent6732]

I prefer the I/O on the side like the Pro M though. And the optical bay for old timers.

[@areksoo]

It should... P600S is to Evolv X as Pro M is the Evolv ATX

[@Ehatari]

I have question. Do you have different color in top removal panel ? I asking because i get today my p600s and top removal panel has different color of panel ?

[@aperson9847]

is it just me or were there fingerprints ALL OVER that thing?

[@kostasbezaitis2695]

The only issue with the airflow test is that IT MEANS NOTHING. Overall, i feel this is a rushed video of HC, for whatever reason. Pick up your pace guys.

[@UsedAWish]

Kostas Bezaitis case flow, means... nothing? I’m afraid to think what your pc’s fan setup must be...

[@antonhelsgaun]

It does tho

[@kostasbezaitis2695]

@@UsedAWish Anyone with basic highschool physics knowledge knows this test is an absolute nonsense. I'd encourage you to open any book relative to heat dissipation in metals and figure out yourself :)

[@callthatwhatyouwant]

@@kostasbezaitis2695 heat dissipation works best when you constantly have a high volume of cold air going over the metal. In order to create a high volume of air you need a high air speed so that the heat taken from the metal will be transported quickly away from the metal and can constantly give the maximum amount of heat to the fresh cold air.

[@kostasbezaitis2695]

@@callthatwhatyouwant High air speed up to a point. How do you know if 271ft/m is enough or not? How do you even know that 313ft/m is better? How much better? Does this 313ft/m of air come our of the case or it's just being recycled? Guys please stop trying to justify pure bullshit.

[@tommychappell6359]

can this case fit an itx as well as ATX motherboard?

[@Unchainedmaple888]

This in a mATX form factor would be badass

[@shakercrouch]

I like my Evolv X more. Another good option though.

[@thealien_ali3382]

Same I love my evolv x to and I have installed many systems in it and keeping this case until phanteks make another version and if it's worth the update 😘

[@HalfNuked]

wish they did a non windowed version of it, oh well

[@TheArcher143]

They do.

[@TheAffanHabib]

Jeez, that auros card... beauty

[@plazasta]

wait you're based in Montreal? OH MA GAWD

[@NickG40]

A Phanteks case with actual cooling potential? What loopy universe am I in?

[@FastRedPonyCar]

I know it's made with metal but it just looks cheap. The enthoo and Evolv (both of which I own) look like they are expensive cases. The Evolv is hands down IMO the best looking PC case that the industry has had since the old coolermaster wavemaster case and Lian Li PC-V1000

[@DJMLJPT]

Those fans are not quiet at all. Need to switch them for Noctua 140mm fans

[@zeusx2762]

How did you mount the GPU vertically in that case?

[@comigex]

I wonder, PSU shroud can be removed?

[@Elbethium]

couldnt go for evolv x because no white option, and that forehead and chin on the front. otherwise, stellar case.

[@Optimus888Amicus]

This my favorite PC case ! 🌞😉👍

[@Leon-xi9cu]

I like the case but those plastic slidey covers with no grommets and no air holes in the psu shroud to allow trapped air up into the gpu turn me off. Nitpicky? Yes. But if they changed those two things Id buy it asap

[@thienphanphuoc4824]

Could you please tell me how many fans on top that you use on build at 4:00 in this video?

[@BobMcCoy]

*Now **_that_** is Satisfying*

[@skezobruh]

Just got my P350x for my first build! Excited for the rest of my parts to come in, it's gonna be a budget RGB monster. :)

[@Emdrag13]

I have the p400s love the case but it does not provide enough airflow and makes my system inside really toasty Might save up and buy this p600s to deal with it it like a smaller evolv x

[@maggi98mw]

Eh, the vertical graphicscard is way to close to the sidepanel, it will choke the gpu

[@gradient602]

I was hoping for it to have the rgb lights like the p350x has and the luxe 2... that or at least make the P350x in all white... or maybe give me an replacement P400S front panel that breaths for my P400s... my AIO breaths like an old smoker.

[@arnavrampal3444]

Does it have the rgb strip inside like the evolv?

[@MissysConcerts]

Love this channel!!

[@jay_ta708]

updated EVOLV Shift Mini ITX cases or similar?

[@hnogueira90]

I'm curious about this case. Can anyone let me know which is better for airflow? (I like how it looks in white,) however I'm comparing it to H500P mesh from Coolermaster, regarding airflow, and I don't seem to find enough info. I wonder if this can actually beat that case from coolermaster, maybe thanks to the more open nylon front. Seems interesting.

[@snagzzzzz]

Does anyone know the song from the like 4 second mini montage at 3:36?

[@nd15music73]

"Hey guys here's a case, it does this thing and that thing. Bye!" You have to wonder how some KZbinrs feel about making money without even bothering.

[@OmerTheGreatOne]

No noise comparison?

[@Vader294]

Matte black everything!

[@reptilez13]

Matte black is the new thing with the kids, the new "in" thing, kinda... Or was? Idk I'm not up to date. There's someone here in town who made every square inch of his car, rims and all, matte black. It was like a dark drip of coal driving around.

[@robindejong1240]

Any word on the release date?