Phantom or Vandal?

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Күн бұрын

No matter what FPS game you play, there are the good weapons, and there are the bad weapons.
Whether it’s Twitch’s F2 in Rainbow Six or the ever-GOATed AK in CS:GO, there are weapons that we make sacrifices to get in our hands.
And yet, in the history of Valorant, one question has plagued every player that’s ever queued into a server -- Phantom or Vandal?
In this video, we're aiming to answer that ever-present question.
Written by: Niall McCrossan (@niallmccrossan)
Hosted by: Dimitri Pascaluta (@DPascaluta)
Edited by: Colten Gowan (@TheOnlyZoltan)
Produced by: Keith Capstick (@KeithCapstick) & Niall McCrossan (@niallmccrossan)
Thumbnail by: Bennett Grainger (Instagram: @bennettgrainger)
All footage courtesy: pastebin.com/R...
Music used under license from Associated Production Music LLC (”APM”).
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@justv7536
@justv7536 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that so many people are split on whether the Vandal or Pantom are better than each other shows that they're balanced very well. Both are very viable options that depend on play style and that kind of balancing is fantastic
@RandomUser_Here
@RandomUser_Here 3 жыл бұрын
Due to the fact that the RNG is more consistent than the net code. You can shoot someone twice in the head with the Phantom and it’ll miss reg as wall bang especially when you do counter strafe correctly vs chance to one shot headshot but hit body.
@kishou5141
@kishou5141 3 жыл бұрын
nah it's because the community sucks, phantom is and has been way better since the game came out
@justv7536
@justv7536 3 жыл бұрын
Based
@historyrepeat402
@historyrepeat402 3 жыл бұрын
@@kishou5141 phantom can’t one tap, when you run around the corner and hit me for 140 that’s tuff because your dead.
@equinox3694
@equinox3694 3 жыл бұрын
@@historyrepeat402 0 20 metres not ur day man
@jtc8458
@jtc8458 3 жыл бұрын
As stated by ziptie: "Phantom is the better weapon but develops bad habits Vandal is the worse weapon but develops good habits"
@purr_meow_3
@purr_meow_3 3 жыл бұрын
only if you let them
@yatzyac
@yatzyac 3 жыл бұрын
I recently became a Vandal main and it's been great for me, and this is a big reason why. If you are going to stand in no man's land with no cover, crouch, and empty a full clip at the other team, the Phantom is better. But putting yourself in that position in the first place is just bad gameplay and you're going to get punished for it more often than not. Vandal is built for disciplined, conservative peeks that give you the best percentage of winning fights.
@rapf3087
@rapf3087 3 жыл бұрын
Guardian gives the best habits for aiming
@tshirt5584
@tshirt5584 3 жыл бұрын
its the worse weapon?
@jtc8458
@jtc8458 3 жыл бұрын
@@tshirt5584 vandal has worse stats than the phantom( less bullet per mag, lesser 1st shot accuracy, and worse spread control) Tho it's not necessarily the worse, just requires more discipline to use than the phantom
@Bell-ih5ln
@Bell-ih5ln 3 жыл бұрын
“Yeah but 1 headshot kill” - guy with 5% Headshot rate
@EpochIsEpic
@EpochIsEpic 3 жыл бұрын
The point is to get better lol - at some point the Valorant community will actually get good enough that the Vandal will be a requirement.
@purr_meow_3
@purr_meow_3 3 жыл бұрын
@@EpochIsEpic except if you can hit two headshots, thus, having more mechanical skill, the phantom is much better to use.
@EpochIsEpic
@EpochIsEpic 3 жыл бұрын
@@purr_meow_3 1 shot is faster than two… I guess the phantom takes more mechanical skill to use (only takes a headshot and a body shot though, not sure where the double headshot thing is coming from) with that logic? Which doesn’t make any sense anyway, but I’m not going to try to fight you over the basic tenants of FPS games. Waste of my time. Let me simplify my argument so Valorant players such as yourself can understand - ONE headshot killing a enemy play in ONE hit kills said enemy player FASTER than TWO shots where not only does the first shot have to hit the head, the second has to hit the body. The phantom might work fine in Valorant right now but trust me, as the player base gets better at the game the consistency of the phantom will be irrelevant because player skill will make up the difference. It doesn’t matter if your gun is technically more consistent if you’re already dead because the enemy PLAYER is more consistent. Essentially enjoy using the phantom while you can, it’ll probably last a while but it won’t last forever (unless of course there are balance patches but frankly I think that is a given).
@neelgajjar7915
@neelgajjar7915 3 жыл бұрын
@@EpochIsEpic People don't use Vandal because it's more inconsistent than phantom. Not because the whole valo community is bad lmfao. Plus the silencer and no tracers in phantom.
@EpochIsEpic
@EpochIsEpic 3 жыл бұрын
@@neelgajjar7915 silencer doesn’t matter if the people around to see them are dead :p Whole community isn’t bad either, plenty of them have figured it out and use the Vandal. Those will be the players to watch in the future because they know where the meta is going. You’ll see what I mean as time goes on.
@JoseSantos-dg7mf
@JoseSantos-dg7mf 3 жыл бұрын
The vandal teaches the player. The phantom amplifies what a player has learned.
@anikethv9660
@anikethv9660 3 жыл бұрын
@cardinaL words of gold lol
@kingkobra8699
@kingkobra8699 3 жыл бұрын
wouldn't it be the other way around, the phantom promotes spraying which is more appealing to noobs whereas the vandal teaches more trigger discipline as you have to time your shots and be accurate. which is why you see many more people showing off impressive one taps bc there hard to do.
@socrayts
@socrayts 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingkobra8699 so the vandal teaches the player
@Mechanosensitive_Zion_Channel
@Mechanosensitive_Zion_Channel 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@cheetos4478
@cheetos4478 2 жыл бұрын
fax
@Dammitimmad
@Dammitimmad 3 жыл бұрын
Statically: Phantom Situationally: Both Most satisfying? Definitely the Vandal
@avawesthead8450
@avawesthead8450 3 жыл бұрын
hear me out here, spectre.
@RyanD0n9
@RyanD0n9 3 жыл бұрын
Hotel? Trivago
@thecrazyzomboy
@thecrazyzomboy 3 жыл бұрын
@@avawesthead8450 if u run n gunn and get kills with it? it can be satisfying to get kills and not get killed. xD
@avawesthead8450
@avawesthead8450 3 жыл бұрын
@@thecrazyzomboy I'm talking about fighting operators at long range, like long B on Bind
@thecrazyzomboy
@thecrazyzomboy 3 жыл бұрын
@@avawesthead8450 oh...dem
@JeezFPS
@JeezFPS 2 жыл бұрын
When I use vandal: misses every shot When I use phantom: dink someone 140 then dies
@brandenspor1650
@brandenspor1650 Жыл бұрын
Truest thing I’ve ever scene
@vishnutejchennuru8996
@vishnutejchennuru8996 10 ай бұрын
just use guardian bro
@homieslayer7384
@homieslayer7384 3 жыл бұрын
It's not the gun that makes you better , it's the skin and the chair you use that makes you better and gives you confidence boost .
@tylersink6801
@tylersink6801 2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@wjr6744
@wjr6744 2 жыл бұрын
Skin = aimbot
@Vera_Nair586
@Vera_Nair586 2 жыл бұрын
@@wjr6744 hell no
@U7AH66
@U7AH66 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vera_Nair586 hell yes
@ShadyExists
@ShadyExists Жыл бұрын
is forskaen vandal good?
@jaydenyuki677
@jaydenyuki677 3 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that they mention gmb chronicle in the video,that dude is crack af using vandal during the grand final berlin. One of the most underrated player imo.
@faisaloishik84
@faisaloishik84 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that we are having this conversation means the dev did a good job balancing them
@jaredd2304
@jaredd2304 3 жыл бұрын
Having a conversation with who¿
@kogkita
@kogkita 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaredd2304 your mom
@jaredd2304
@jaredd2304 3 жыл бұрын
@@kogkita no
@Subhrajyoti
@Subhrajyoti 3 жыл бұрын
@@kogkita lol
@pokypokpokchat2522
@pokypokpokchat2522 3 жыл бұрын
@@kogkita At least Jaredd has a mom
@AstolfoCh
@AstolfoCh 3 жыл бұрын
Colton's BG with the Halo Poster just makes me smile. Good on you bud, see ya on the field in Infinite.
@b1ngbang536
@b1ngbang536 3 жыл бұрын
Another consideration in this conversation is the money of the other team. If the enemy are likely to have half armor and pistols/smgs even at long range the phantom is better as it is going to kill even from the 140, faster kill speed on body shots onto 100 hp targets as well obviously
@cryingwater
@cryingwater 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Never thought of this. This will help me rank up lol
@davidplummer7302
@davidplummer7302 3 жыл бұрын
very true. I'm usually phantom-only, but even on my vandal days if I'm buying a rifle second round for whatever reason I'm always buying a phantom
@Shyrlox
@Shyrlox 3 жыл бұрын
Vandal makes 160at hs at any range.
@KuraioTI
@KuraioTI 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shyrlox what part of half armor did you not understand...
@Shyrlox
@Shyrlox 3 жыл бұрын
@@KuraioTI TLDR, btw as shooter, Valorant is broken, Guardian is even best option cuz is anti-echoes and Aim guarantee, no more casual deviation and even letal hs trough walls
@marc0z198
@marc0z198 3 жыл бұрын
Usually whenever i have bad aim while playing valorant, i just use the phantom since the spray pattern is basically an easier version of the vandal's spray pattern but most of the time, i just use the vandal because i just like using it. Honestly, both guns are great in my opinion, just depends on playstyle or the map i guess.
@achwis
@achwis 3 жыл бұрын
Imo is Phantom vs Vandal just sometimes a feeling thing. Vandal is definitely better on Breeze but the Phantom spray transfers are also important soo: Both weapons have their own advantage so it's also a question of "where are you playing?". I think both are good guns.
@youngcitybandit
@youngcitybandit 3 жыл бұрын
I only really play vandal but phantom honestly may be just as good on breeze. The phantom has slightly better first shot accuracy and like a hs + body shot for more consistent shots + burst is way better. Phantom genuinely feels like the better gun sometimes
@d.a1den
@d.a1den 3 жыл бұрын
Seem like Phantom /w Reyna + her ULT will goes nuts.
@PATPAT-mk2if
@PATPAT-mk2if 3 жыл бұрын
vandal spray transfers r waaaay easier than phantom
@opalesnt
@opalesnt 3 жыл бұрын
pat pat, what world are you living in
@soviethog7874
@soviethog7874 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's about perspective. Just in our 5 stack lobby, we have dudes just plays only with vandal. And dudes plays only with phantom. For me it's about which map you are playing. I usually plays only vandal on breeze and icebox. And rest is phantom.
@extrv4257
@extrv4257 3 жыл бұрын
my man colten giving information and watching some good stuff
@pretzelbodyvarial9629
@pretzelbodyvarial9629 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly overall phantom is better but it’s a preference for most people, but you can 1 tap with vandal for da clip
@silentKeys20
@silentKeys20 3 жыл бұрын
I think playing the Vandal just overall trains you to be more disciplined. Sometimes the Phantom makes you play sloppy and overspray instead of going for bursts/taps.
@tuan3157
@tuan3157 3 жыл бұрын
well imagine headshotting som1 and they didnt die:(
@andrewkim7518
@andrewkim7518 3 жыл бұрын
@@silentKeys20 100% but when i watch pros fire a whole clip fully controlled its insane to watch
@alankuo2727
@alankuo2727 3 жыл бұрын
vandal on icebox and breeze only
@mr.uncanny6955
@mr.uncanny6955 3 жыл бұрын
@@silentKeys20 yep that's why I warmup with vandal but phantom in rank
@noodles7422
@noodles7422 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Phantom more because you need to really aim consistently at the heads because it’s not one shot head shot, but Vandal is good too because no damage drop off but at the expense of high recoil, basically AK vs M4A1-S
@mikeas0216
@mikeas0216 11 ай бұрын
And everyone in ct picks up the ak when they can
@GHLukinator
@GHLukinator 3 жыл бұрын
Imo it really depends on how you're playing that day, if you really are hitting all your one taps then Vandal is better but Phantom is way better for more situations and it's more consistent
@haydenbiju6964
@haydenbiju6964 3 жыл бұрын
Haha true that... I use whatever I'm feeling like
@TxCoby
@TxCoby 3 жыл бұрын
If your playing really good definitely use the phantom, ur op
@ruichen961
@ruichen961 3 жыл бұрын
you again
@iamkestrel
@iamkestrel 3 жыл бұрын
hello again bröther
@haydenbiju6964
@haydenbiju6964 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamkestrel hello there
@ichigo8631
@ichigo8631 3 жыл бұрын
On paper: Phantom In praxis: Vandal
@jdjr2144
@jdjr2144 3 жыл бұрын
For long range flicks: Vandal For close range sprays: Phantom It's all situational
@JRNN31
@JRNN31 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes spectres beat phantom close range cuz spectres has much faster fire rate than phantom😂😂
@bluuforyuu8488
@bluuforyuu8488 2 жыл бұрын
@@JRNN31 true lmao
@Sjndl
@Sjndl 2 жыл бұрын
@@JRNN31 never Heard of hs💀💀
@insertpng6289
@insertpng6289 Жыл бұрын
@@Sjndl key word: sometimes
@alysgl4m571
@alysgl4m571 2 жыл бұрын
if you have a crouching problem/ or your spray control is not that good, i suggest using the vandal as you will get used to tapping instead of crouching and spraying.
@kadeskie2925
@kadeskie2925 3 жыл бұрын
Colton is just casually watching vtubers then someone asked him to give his opinion without even playing the game wow. He does gives pretty good information
@theScore_Colten
@theScore_Colten 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Glad I can offer some insights.
@Tehloki
@Tehloki 3 жыл бұрын
@@theScore_Colten I'm intrigued about the info behind valorant servers and hitreg. I swear it's worse than cs mm servers, but I also just stopped playing valorant and know I'm probably pretty bad lool
@theScore_Colten
@theScore_Colten 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tehloki they have certainly taken a different approach to the netcode than Valve. The Riot Tech Blog on the Valorant netcode was a SUPER interesting read even though I don't play the game.
@Tehloki
@Tehloki 3 жыл бұрын
@@theScore_Colten id love a video explaining it one day!
@Tr1ckori
@Tr1ckori 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tehloki same
@ta9713
@ta9713 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason I find it harder to predict spray patterns of the phantom than the vandal. At the end of the day, it's all about your personal preference.
@PrismHeartOfficial
@PrismHeartOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Video: "Phantom or Vandal?" Me: "haha Odin go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR"
@rocksolidbraumotp4041
@rocksolidbraumotp4041 3 жыл бұрын
Weak once taps are a thing
@PrismHeartOfficial
@PrismHeartOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@rocksolidbraumotp4041 this is true its mostly just a meme lol
@Unescapable-
@Unescapable- 3 жыл бұрын
Phantom needs trigger discipline, Vandal needs well accuracy in long range.....to me both works out depending on what map I play, i usually use phantom in short maps like Split, and I usually use vandal in fraction (in my own way of playing)
@KokosHraje
@KokosHraje 3 жыл бұрын
I use vandal because phantom is just sad when you hit enemy for 140
@br00kdale
@br00kdale 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of times that happen to me LMAO
@JODmonn
@JODmonn 3 жыл бұрын
@@br00kdale That ting sound and its 140 and you died 😣
@Sosa999_
@Sosa999_ 3 жыл бұрын
And vandal 120
@yombstv
@yombstv 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sosa999_ vandal one taps, 160 damage
@notprithvi3980
@notprithvi3980 3 жыл бұрын
@@yombstv think he means losing a spray battle
@theamateur09
@theamateur09 2 жыл бұрын
13:31 *precise gunplay*
@RandomFBIguy
@RandomFBIguy 3 жыл бұрын
Me and My Friend: "Do we Vandal or Phantom?" "Depends..." "Eh, you know what, imma buy Odin." "Yeah, me too." *Odin is just better* jk
@lockedluster
@lockedluster 3 жыл бұрын
Odin gaming
@zadsazhad
@zadsazhad 3 жыл бұрын
@A J wut
@logicalbass2067
@logicalbass2067 3 жыл бұрын
Bro you guys play games?
@FullMetalChains
@FullMetalChains 3 жыл бұрын
@@zadsazhad he really just called valorant vandal
@rahuljoshi1746
@rahuljoshi1746 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 13 year old
@sebastienxing8372
@sebastienxing8372 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that’s not told on the tooltips is that there is a tap factor on those guns and the vandal has less recoil when tapping
@totilssue5218
@totilssue5218 3 жыл бұрын
I've never instantly liked someone more than when I saw the IronMouse stream in Colten's background. What a chad.
@theScore_Colten
@theScore_Colten 3 жыл бұрын
I've never instantly liked someone more than when I say this comment from Totilssue. What a Chad.
@davidpolansky3291
@davidpolansky3291 3 жыл бұрын
everyone: vandal or fantom? that one psycho: JUDGE AND ODIIIIIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@nicolaska1761
@nicolaska1761 3 жыл бұрын
As a Omen/Viper/Sova main I need to say that you can have a lot more ambitious strats with the phantom like playing in you own smoke and spraying through them
@xlcooli1333
@xlcooli1333 2 жыл бұрын
I mean Omen does own phantom
@imHansi
@imHansi 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought I’d say this, but good job balancing the main two guns Riot! Tbh Phantom is not only better in every stat, but once you know how to use it long range (two taps), you pretty much overpower any Vandal user.
@urevya
@urevya 3 жыл бұрын
not really since vandal is still 1 tap X.D
@proteg30
@proteg30 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao this shit aged horribly😂 how you feel now Mr. Iron 2
@imHansi
@imHansi 2 жыл бұрын
@@proteg30 wot? Lol I carried ur mom from iron 2
@hamzahamid2543
@hamzahamid2543 3 жыл бұрын
Ironmouse in the background of Colton's section LET'S GO!
@nicename29
@nicename29 3 жыл бұрын
mhm ikr
@STM7685
@STM7685 2 жыл бұрын
For me, I prefer the vandal. I started around 3 days ago and started out with the spectere, which I liked, than just today I bought a vandal on accident, and decided to try it out. I got 13 kills, which granted wasn’t the top frag (24) still my personal best. I’ll be sticking with the vandal!
@taxavation
@taxavation 2 жыл бұрын
If you like the spectre then I would try out the phantom
@MohidPvE
@MohidPvE 3 жыл бұрын
For the intro I was expecting “Please pull down your recoil to the like button, spray control to the subscribe button and make sure to hit the notifications”.
@thelegend6172
@thelegend6172 6 ай бұрын
Have there been any changes since this video came out? Specifically for these 2 guns only
@exavier5616
@exavier5616 3 жыл бұрын
Me an intellectual... The spectre is the best, just ask zombs
@_darcat_5581
@_darcat_5581 3 жыл бұрын
It like in the first half of the film i understood everything and then the other half made my brain freezed XD
@ayushmishra617
@ayushmishra617 3 жыл бұрын
god i love this youtube channel always makes such interesting videos... specially this guy .. makes things so interesting with his facial expressions and awesome story telling ability
@ahmadrubaii8833
@ahmadrubaii8833 3 жыл бұрын
I always decide usually by 1. What map im playing 2. Which characters the enemy team is playing/what im playing 3. Site im holding or, going to
@uitstel2903
@uitstel2903 3 жыл бұрын
13:50 "this is his world, and we're just living in it"
@opalesnt
@opalesnt 3 жыл бұрын
How many times have I seen this clip lol
@vallemuller5594
@vallemuller5594 3 жыл бұрын
This channel basically consists of this clip
@roughclouds5044
@roughclouds5044 3 жыл бұрын
9:20 he watching Ironmouse in the back, mad respect.
@recht181
@recht181 3 жыл бұрын
For me, it's really more a question of "phantom vs guardian". If you're playing a rifle for taps, guardian it is. The vandal is the middle of the comparison because it can spray, and can one tap.
@vibhanshusingh4236
@vibhanshusingh4236 2 жыл бұрын
the crouch spray baby
@comf_blanket
@comf_blanket 3 жыл бұрын
The stream behind colten is a nice touch
@roza2631
@roza2631 3 жыл бұрын
It's all about the skin ur using man. If I'm on SOL vandal I'm hitting taps across the map, but when I'm on the elderflame, I'm spraying and dying. Even with a phantom, when I'm on the oni, I tend to whiff but when I'm on the prime, I'm spray transferring like 3 ppl.
@mikhailavanesov5912
@mikhailavanesov5912 2 жыл бұрын
for me the Oni gives me aimbot, and the prime one isn't actually that good
@luckydr2623
@luckydr2623 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it comes with the confidence feel. If you feel like not stressing yourself out, just go with phantom. If you feel ballsy and tap heads or just love the heavy dps feel, go vandal. (Though my go to is spectre, it's cheap and can give leeway for my creds to give a rifle or an op for top fraggers on my team)
@Kamiigoroshii
@Kamiigoroshii 3 жыл бұрын
I used Vandal because I hate doing 140 headshots and spray downs that do 148. It's painful man and the Vandal to me is just better. But honestly it's up to choice. They are both amazing weapons when in skilled hands.
@linkplays2952
@linkplays2952 2 жыл бұрын
you only dont 1 tap with phantom from far away and most of the time unless you exclusively play breeze your closer range
@marcator11
@marcator11 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone: "Vandal or Phantom!?" Jett mains: "operator"
@kunaii_cs
@kunaii_cs 3 жыл бұрын
Phantom is the safe gun for most situations, especially when its your first game of the day. Vandal is nasty though when you're in flow state.
@ImAWetTowel
@ImAWetTowel 2 жыл бұрын
"What is the most accurate? The guardian, of course!" Snipers: am I a joke to you
@BreadAckerman
@BreadAckerman 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@BreadAckerman
@BreadAckerman 2 жыл бұрын
Ah i forgot snipers are pin point accurate
@junocchi7
@junocchi7 3 жыл бұрын
I'm miles more consistent with the Vandal. In every situation the Vandal is the better weapon for me. I've tried to use the Phantom COUNTLESS times and my spray control is so shit I hit 140s all the time and the next 5 bullets hit behind my enemy and then I just drop dead. Same goes for multiple targets, If I hit a one tap on the first guy he dies, I hit a one tap on the second guy, he dies too. With the Phantom, I hit a double tap on the first guy's head, I dink the second guy for 140 and my 2nd bullet goes 3 feet above him because it hasn't fully reset yet and my spray control is ASS. I'm going to give the Phantom another chance after this video though, hopefully it goes better this time. For reference I'm Gold 2 right now, been playing for 2 months, 28.6% HS%
@grecco4037
@grecco4037 3 жыл бұрын
if you treat the phantom as the way you play the vandal, you’ll be much more consistent with it. last season i had 35% hs rate with a vandal and 26% with a phantom but the phantom one is when i have a good game as an initiator/controller/sentinel main. those vandal kills were less than a hundred of that phantom kills. ik what technique you do with a vandal. 2 bullet bursts at a time. that’s the same with the phantom. i always isolate 1v1 whenever i can so i can avoid spraying with both rifles. i usually avoid the duel when i hit -140 or -124 with a phantom and retreat. yeah yeah hitting -140 is lame but when you get used to the phantom bursts, it becomes better because it’s statistically more accurate than the vandal (the first shot accuracy)
@jademwah
@jademwah 3 жыл бұрын
lol i'm the exact same, i've literally been immortal 3 since act 1 season 1 and tbh phantom spraying is soooo dodgy, and as you said it's not like full spraying, literally every bullet after the very first just seems super inaccurate and unreliable to control - even if i'm not hitting any headshots unless its super close on defense vandal still feels so much better and more consistent for hitting the bullets required for kills
@terradrive
@terradrive 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's the skin, I'm playing bad using my ruination phantom but keep killing when i picked up enemy's glitchpop phantom lol (i'm gold 1)
@Alex324
@Alex324 3 жыл бұрын
Until my challenges are finished I feel obligated to finish them before I play what I want to.
@joeynathanael
@joeynathanael 3 жыл бұрын
“Which rifle do you buy, the phantom or the vandal?” Not both. The Guardian.
@jaredd2304
@jaredd2304 3 жыл бұрын
Not if your aim is bad.
@XyAnimeGuy
@XyAnimeGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love that Iron Mouse in the background 9:21
@toharlahav943
@toharlahav943 3 жыл бұрын
Maturing is realising the phantom is better and still using the vandal.
@iiillliiill5917
@iiillliiill5917 3 жыл бұрын
That's literally me lmao
@supriyonag305
@supriyonag305 3 жыл бұрын
True that ✨
@S.L.0311
@S.L.0311 3 жыл бұрын
If u spray fire- use Phantom If u burst fire - use vandal Can't do either - use odin
@pricklyprickle
@pricklyprickle 3 жыл бұрын
LOL. i Guess i'll use the odin lmfao
@d4m4ge55
@d4m4ge55 3 жыл бұрын
"There might be a point where the Phantom might be a little too strong."-Dimitri See Dimitri, this is how Twitter starts complaining about stuff, and then it gets nerf
@HeckoGT
@HeckoGT 3 жыл бұрын
Nah people have already been complaining for a long time like tenz saying that phantom should have 25 bullets etc imo they are both good in their own ways depends on how you play and what you plan to do for the round
@d4m4ge55
@d4m4ge55 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeckoGT i was just pointing out how he said that is usually how things get ruined ie. The P10 Roni in R6S, people complained so much that it got nerfed and now everyone's complaining that its underpowered
@HeckoGT
@HeckoGT 3 жыл бұрын
@@d4m4ge55 fair enough I used to play r6 and play mozzie then they nerfed the roni
@mikedixerek6898
@mikedixerek6898 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeckoGT the only problem i see in that nerf is that you cant use the angle grip on it. Its like the zofia nerf.
@SamAx.
@SamAx. 2 жыл бұрын
Id say defender should use phantom since they're mostly inside the site which most of the times is small like why counter terrors in csgo only has the m4
@noodle7559
@noodle7559 3 жыл бұрын
For me it just depends on my mood and the skin. For like three months I went vandal straight bc I got the sentinals of light for it and I only had the battle pass phantom. But when I got the Prime 2.0 phantom THEN I started using it. super inconsistent whatever floats your boat I guess as long as you're comfortable with it
@QuangyWangy
@QuangyWangy Жыл бұрын
same for me i bought sentinels of light and mained vandal for a long time. then i bought recon phantom and now i swap between the two
@edgoodwin4389
@edgoodwin4389 3 жыл бұрын
I was a huge entry fragger with the AK back when I played CS. So the vandal actually felt more natural when I started playing.
@st31928
@st31928 3 жыл бұрын
I'd never recommend phantom to a beginner. It develops the habit of spraying and forgives you for not having your crosshair at head level. I went from a 10% hs to roughly 30% in low ranks just exclusively using vandal. Phantom is the better weapon, but I'd recommend it to players diamond and above, and of course is the pro's choice of rifle, but vandal teaches you how to play the game. When you transfer all that knowledge onto the Phantom you'll see way better results rather than just using Phantom to compensate your crosshair placement or abuse the randomness of running and gunning. This video should not encourage those kind of things for new players, cause more people behave like that, more random and less competitive the game will be. Other than this, great video indeed and yes, again, Phantom is the better overall choice for almost every situation.
@new9039
@new9039 3 жыл бұрын
I just really like the video editor guy. Cool moustache.
@phucnguyen0110
@phucnguyen0110 3 жыл бұрын
Phantom: Better for sprays + silence Vandal: One-tap potential at longer range Both works IMO, that's all.
@_ytboycarter
@_ytboycarter 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back on valorant Dimitri
@echo69286
@echo69286 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't mentioned in the video (at least not that I noticed) but some agents are just better on one than the other. Reyna does better with vandal while someone like viper would do better with phantom
@ded__
@ded__ 3 жыл бұрын
Zoltan got ironmouse at the back lmao. Respect.
@loleo123
@loleo123 3 жыл бұрын
To me, it would just make more sense if you swapped the spread ratio between the two guns. Then Vandal and Phantom would have clear uses etc
@jiranhiro9794
@jiranhiro9794 2 жыл бұрын
Vandal or Phantom? Fishychair: hold my chair
@kezneo
@kezneo 3 жыл бұрын
Vandal or Phantom? Answer: Guardian
@Karane0109
@Karane0109 3 жыл бұрын
Editor: *Talks* Me: Okay okay all good but let me watch more of Iroumouse in your back
@ahtiulanen6122
@ahtiulanen6122 3 жыл бұрын
"Not for you to flex in gold" meanwhile me flexing my 1taps in iron :D
@thatonepronoun7503
@thatonepronoun7503 3 жыл бұрын
Ironmouse in the background kinda based
@sleeper5905
@sleeper5905 3 жыл бұрын
Even tho i get more kills with phantom, and practically, its best gun for me vandal is the way to go
@alivingrock9715
@alivingrock9715 3 жыл бұрын
basically phantom on close range maps like split and bind. vandal on longer range maps like breeze, icebox (only on b site, a site is phantom recommended) but really at the end of the day it's just your preference. thanks for coming to my tedtalk
@z3r0sidop50
@z3r0sidop50 3 жыл бұрын
Every gun is good as long as u can aim correctly :))
@abelodonnigli6046
@abelodonnigli6046 3 жыл бұрын
my guy actually did all the math.
@menoskaiju8834
@menoskaiju8834 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think the phantom needs some sort of nerf. The absurdity of getting crouch sprayed from mid to nest on breeze with a phantom breeds an unparalleled amount of tilt.
@cawley6529
@cawley6529 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on map, play style and how you feel that day
@loganhillmedia
@loganhillmedia 3 жыл бұрын
Or you can run the bucky and run at your opponents like a jackass
@loganhillmedia
@loganhillmedia 3 жыл бұрын
Hehehehe
@CHEH_tf
@CHEH_tf 3 жыл бұрын
Vandal fan vs phantom enjoyer That's it Debate closed
@benjaminvanaken579
@benjaminvanaken579 3 жыл бұрын
I'll always be here for another phantom v vandal debate
@Kuhai4865
@Kuhai4865 3 жыл бұрын
If you actually unbind crouch for sometime your eyes will actually start bleeding when you try to spray with vandal so that will force you to burst (100% recommend and can deliver results in a short amount of time)
@Stephmakescontent
@Stephmakescontent 3 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about the fact that Colton had an ironmouse stream in the background
@r6sayu486
@r6sayu486 2 жыл бұрын
Its personal preference and depends on playstyle, for example, I like taping and hate spraying, so naturally I pick vandal + the 1 shot 1 Kill headshot is the best, if you whiff, there still is a chance that if you spray it will land a head
@dumpsterkima
@dumpsterkima 3 жыл бұрын
The editor has a man of culture
@louxales8745
@louxales8745 2 жыл бұрын
It actually just depends on your style. If you have the best crosshair placement and always get taps you use t he vandal. If you spray and control the recoil and do more with spray, You use the phantom. Ifyou want a gun that doesnt show spray, use the phantom. if you want more bullets, use the phantom. if you want a loud gun, use tha vandal.
@reflexfadeyt
@reflexfadeyt 3 жыл бұрын
Phantom is better on paper but the vandal is just build different
@DMVbuilt
@DMVbuilt 3 жыл бұрын
Watching all your house I love how he’s watching iron mouse in the background
@NTVCHIKN
@NTVCHIKN 2 жыл бұрын
I hate the situations where you up close and spraying with the vandal is a nightmare
@solace1x
@solace1x 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like vandal just gives you more opportunity’s as it is hard to play a vandal like a phantom but it is impossible to play a phantom like a vandal
@dream.create.repeat.3343
@dream.create.repeat.3343 3 жыл бұрын
run n gun nerfed? they just released neon, her ability is literally running
@panosts6178
@panosts6178 2 жыл бұрын
As a main awper I have to say that Vandal is absolutely better in many situations with agents like Jett, Reyna and Chamber that play for picks and try to carry round some. I use it like an awp, play aggro and get out after the headshot.I feel like every one else should play phantom but these 3 in particular are smooth af woth the vandal if you're good enough
@captenpaul11
@captenpaul11 3 жыл бұрын
so the conclusion is vandal is better if you are scream
@sasukeuchiha6485
@sasukeuchiha6485 3 жыл бұрын
Close map ~Short range~Enemy Rush= Phantom Hard push ~1 Tap~ long range~ site rush = Vandal Note : Awp ~jett~Reyna = High KD Always and always remember that!!
@leb92
@leb92 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or was I watching Dimitri's hair puff move while he talks the whole video lol
@taboulehcritique4888
@taboulehcritique4888 2 жыл бұрын
Different situations require different guns. My preference is on short ranged map i use a phantom like split, but on long ranged maps like breeze/icebox i use a vandal.
@clementmak1425
@clementmak1425 3 жыл бұрын
No one talking about how Bae love streaming in the background?
@zhonglipillarsimp8367
@zhonglipillarsimp8367 3 жыл бұрын
Dimitri on his way to Explain why Coldzera Mirage ace is related to everything in this world.
@justadogthatsvibing9694
@justadogthatsvibing9694 3 жыл бұрын
I use Vandals and Guardians to train accuracy. When i want to hard carry on Reyna, using ur ult with a Phantom, you just cant beat that.
@mushymush7204
@mushymush7204 3 жыл бұрын
Me scrolling through the comments to see if anyone has said anything about Zombs's perspective on the vandal & phantom 5:28 cuz to be honest, thats very smart. New to me!
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