Intermediate Tekken is CONFUSING

[@fluffykitten077]

When I started playing tekken I just looked at my character. Because my character looked cool. Yes I got hit and lost a lot.

[@kyx5631]

But you saw someone cool while losing, which is also worth it :)

[@amosjohnson6348]

I did the same in t5. I thought jin was so cool. It was only generations later that i realized my mistake lol

[@Straaaayyyy]

@@amosjohnson6348you didn’t make any mistakes, Jin is powerful especially in t8)

[@justevolve]

​@@Straaaayyyy powerful isn't everything cos jin is not the sme character as he was in t7 in a bad way I mean

[@Babyzaku]

I know bro I used to Jin as well, now that he’s full blown Jim kazoomer im checked out 80 he’s on the same level as bears Alisa drag etc when it comes to oh I respect this persons skill😂😂

[@v.m.6549]

Watching replays and say "WHAT AM I THINKING??" is probably the most relatable shit ever

[@aaron.biketrials]

Ultimate face palm 😂🤣

[@jeanschyso]

In every FG when I watch my replay I find out that I have ultra instinct, but my instinct is shit

[@Vospi]

I was doing "so how did i lose?". Got me through a pretty windy, but ultimately helpful road.

[@intogrey2038]

Facts

[@KZ_Suntorn]

These sorts of videos are so dense with knowledge I gotta watch them in chunks, lol, but it's a goldmine for people trying to learn the game at this level. Just hit Bushin for the first time this afternoon (for an hour at least, lol), so this dropping so recently was excellent timing, and I'm looking forward to the next Tekken steps video for sure. Thanks for all you do Phi. 🙏

[@mr.madhatter5538]

I think tekken movelist size is what discourages me from labbing these days. I spent ages learning how to deal with bs only to see it once a twice a month. If i played regiously every day it would probably be better, but if you only play a couple times a week it feels insurmountable.

[@Kenkyou_Nogata]

Feel you there. Labbed the knowledge nightmare chars. Proceed to fight simple top tiers I don't struggle with all month, on an uprepped break, decide to play Tekken just to be abused because I forgot how to deal with the labbed chars. Especially Zafina being able to launch you in so many deceptive ways.

[@Garupan]

Yeah deathmatching those sort of players helps a lot. Learning on the spot helps me more.

[@booleann___]

I'm no high level player, but I have found a ton of success just quickly going through replays where I lose, seeing what I lose to, understanding it, and moving on. Doesn't take that much time. Plus, most players use a lot of the same moves.

[@simonzhang3D]

my takeaway is that i just dont lab and just play. Ye i will get stuck but thats fine because i didnt soend hours everyday labing when its not fun. Like whats the point of me playing the game when i dont have fun. Only if i really motivated to lab because its not fun anymore . then yes mb . But then .... mb just play something else XD

[@darkmadnessyeayuuh6932]

Just hit Bushin baby! What a grind lol taking a break now

[@turboallen]

Congrats!

[@rubenpena246]

Yee🎉

[@barryjohnson5426]

I'm right with you, good job on that. The moment I touch tekken king, I'm instantly switching off my main.

[@Miguelzki]

Congrats! Enjoy the rank and go for Tekken King when you're ready 😊

[@simonzhang3D]

​@@barryjohnson5426 kinda sucks how hard you get punished learning a different character because of you main rank

[@turboallen]

The bears learning matchups now is scary.

[@Cherokeechuck9]

I hit bushin with kuma and I was scared to go on so I switched to panda to learn matchups. I feel like this video was made for me lol

[@Latino_Burrito]

@@Cherokeechuck9if you’re scared it’s most likely because you’re putting pressure on yourself to maintain your rank. You care more about your results than your actual progress. Try to have this mind set, “who gives a shit if I go on a losing streak and rank down 2-3-5 times. I’m going to get those points, and ranks back anyways, and at the end of the day as long as I learned ONE thing during the match… that’s a win.” Break down your goals into small achievable steps. Obviously try to win but bro who cares if you lose. Have fun, get your ass kicked, don’t attach your self worth to your rank. Trust me I know It’s hard, it’ll be frustrating, it’ll be annoying, you’re not a robot you’re human, your mental isn’t always going to be 100% and that’s okay. Just take breaks. But if you’re consistent man and you really put in the effort in your training your punishment and knowledge will increase. Just try to be consistent.

[@AsapPocky99]

I'm sure slime loved that intro

[@ErikNiceBoy]

5:45 you can actually intuit most of the punisheable moves in the game. Obviously not down to the exact frame, but get an approximate, just using some "rules". > 3 hit strings that end in a mid are punisheable. -10 to -12 if its just a normal attack, -13 or worse if it has CH properties, or delayable, or confirmable, or the string has a low mix-up extension, etc. > 2 hit strings ending in a mid are punisheable if the string is natural on normal hit or confirmable on CH, if 2nd hit is delayable and/or has CH properties, etc. > Single hit mids are punisheable if they have overwhelmingly good qualities. A mid that's fast and knocks down? Punisheable. One that tracks and CH launches? Probably punisheable. Launches on normal hit? Very likely punisheable. Generally its the single hit moves whose frame data varies the most and requires you to start memorizing them. Obviously Tekken is Tekken and there's exceptions to every "rule". But generally, with these rules of thumb you can deal with most strings and unknown moves just by knowing what your 10f, 12f/13f, and 15f punishes and asking yourself "is it a mid string? And how spooky/strong is it?"

[@raxy0163]

Slime is so real for this! 2:28 I am new to Tekken, but I come from 2D air dasher land and I am around the same rank as slime. Playing people who use gimmicky moves I’ve never seen feels really bad because the sets never feel fun to win, but when I steamroll someone with my basic offense on Steve then it feels so shallow. Took me like 250 hours have decent games because people learned how to block…

[@braindeadbrick553]

the amount of moves in tekken is just too much, losing by not knowing something is fun for very short amount of time cause most people want to know but u have to have phd in tekken in order to start the "real" game its non negotiable, the design flaws like that and kbd that is required to maybe get away from these moves gatekeep this game so much and its a shame cause core gameplay is really good but no normie will look at this and waste their time its just not worth for most people

[@stfueg0]

Honestly, the whole bit about memory and information is what discourages me to try-hard Tekken ranked. Luckily it is intuitive enough where I can pick up some patterns of movement that all characters share, but I don't remember how to answer in the moment-- I don't know the frame data, I don't know the whole list of moves that my character can do, etc... I understand that it comes with having to drill and lab a lot to remember, but that's just not fun for me to view Tekken as that math problem.

[@Crimsongz]

Yall need to stop playing rank that’s the main issue

[@YanParoni]

dude trust me even at tekken emperor rank i feel the same, try to have fun and be gentle with yourself

[@Crimsongz]

@@YanParoniExactly I’m at the same rank and played ranked match maybe 5% of my playtime lool. Learning in Quick match is the way to go.

[@YanParoni]

@@Crimsongz true

[@latteARCH]

Unfortunately that's what it takes to git gud at fighting games. People watch a hype EVO match and assume they can pick up a controller and get results with a little work, but many of them drop it because getting to a high level takes knowledge and application of that knowledge.

[@Raytanix]

The amount of times I’ve used that small amount of time in between rounds to practice a move someone was using and the sheer satisfaction when I have instant results and I can visually watch my opponent stumble. The practice system is so complex and allows you to do so much more now too.

[@jerrickcomeaux4023]

Great video. I just made it to Blue ranks with Lilly and had an idea on things I needed to work on but this video gave me an idea/plan how to tackle those situations now so thank you🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🤝🏾

[@l0vesick_xo]

as a struggling red/purple rank player i found the combatting autopiloting bit very interesting & helpful. thanks phi. also super stoked to see slime on the channel 😎

[@AleksandrKlimanev]

The scariest and most annoying thing in online Tekken is an Alisa player who knows some fundamentals and games rules at pretty good level but still prefers using her super obnoxious, cheesy and gimmicky sht🗿🤡

[@livingashtree1942]

I just fought one today... pretty scary

[@РоманСмородов-л2в]

Signing on every word

[@robdavideogamer4119]

Lab her? All her dumb stuff is punishable. Her powercrush is -13 I believe, and hitting her while she's in chainsaw immediately pulls her out of it.

[@glamodrama287]

Every time I play Vs an Alisa and I see that are moving around, playing good neutral game I am like "Oh wow a decent Alisa player". But then they turn on chainsaw mode and I feel like I am playing Vs a monkey 💀

[@shardulaswal2200]

​@@robdavideogamer4119 how very simple.

[@kyx5631]

I'm looking forward to pt 2.

[@mlpb]

The moment you said "how do you look at the screen?", I felt a wave of relief knowing I wasn't the only one wondering about that little aspect of the game.

[@64-Palms]

I'm also Marth main from smash ult. Almost out of orange rank with about 300 hours thanks to your videos. Every video you make i feel i learn so much about the game!

[@jon630]

16:15 I think the analogy you're looking for is poker. You don't want to try and put players on specific hand when they don't know how to play. Because they play so randomly, they probably don't even know the hands they're representing with their bets. So rather than putting them on a hand, you just get a rough sense of their overall playstyle and betting habits. In Tekken, you see this with players sort of randomly throwing out buttons without thinking about conditioning or option coverage. But they still have habits. E.g. that Lily covered some specific options (including Kuma db4) with the hopkick after eating a downjab, but it's likely she was just randomly mashing out a panic button. So the takeaway should be "This Lily likes to mash hopkick in minus frames" instead of "This Lily has a hard read on my lows/timings".

[@ShaolinPhrase187]

I will never reach high levels of Tekken play but much love from a tekken lover keep it up 👍🏻

[@Darkness2Maxrocko]

I miss deathmatches so hard to get muscle memory vs constantly fighting new chars in ft2

[@NyxDiscordia33]

seriously, though. I'm a 50/50 split of "immediately adapting and punishing in that exact moment" and "it took me 57 rounds to get me to duck that specific string"

[@Invader.Xim.]

No one rematches anyways so nothing changed

[@larrywoolfolk8224]

When my buddies were coaching me as i was going from orange into red ranks, these are the exact topics they told me to start being aware of

[@EPICGAPE]

Good work Sensei, much appreciated.

[@ksurette92]

I love these videos, a lot of mindset stuff that doesn't come naturally to me.

[@TheSLashera]

Yesterday got TK King for the first time on my Steve. It's getting fucking hard up here. Overall feeling pretty good about my skill though. Most people say that blue ranks don't even sidestep while me here, got all the fundamentals down even though they need a lot more work. I notice that the players who really destroy me just have a lot more patience. Probably gotta focus on that currently.

[@barryjohnson5426]

It depends on the person to be honest with whether blue ranks have bad fundamentally . I'm bushin and heavily rely on sidesteps and movement, but my low callouts are really bad. I've seen and lost to some people who are absolutely clueless tho.

[@TheSLashera]

@@barryjohnson5426 Yeah exactly. Rank could be an indicator of skill, but not really. I started playing late into TK7 and I've been playing for fundamentals ever since, didn't even care about rank until recently.

[@abra2133]

the worst thing for me is that except universal stuff, 70% of moves that are punishable, don't look like it because there's as much of moves that are safe or even + and without prior knowledge you can't even take your turn because when you do you get launched because "that" move was + on block, example: lidia b2 and bryan b1. they're moves that look punishable but are actually +

[@edwuano7]

matched up with a good bryan and he made me miss being able to play someone more than best of 3. you could see we were learning from each other and it clicked when i finally didn’t let him finish a string because i watched his legs (bryan’s kicks are so vicious to me for some reason lol)

[@Gamevard]

The animation recognition tip is super helpful! I’ve been just going slow, trying to learn a character through KZbin guide every other day. But the tip about doing the punishes for 2 characters per session is something I’ll be stealing. Ty!

[@Drunklotus]

“If it ends in high, it’s probably safe” *looks at Azucena’s 1, 1*

[@2dawg1]

THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED 🙏🙏🙏

[@kurayamik1]

Beautiful video. Love watching these. Helps me learn from a different perspective and is just nice seeing someone like Slime taking such interest

[@CHESSYJESSE-o4v]

Holy...Phi thank you, you have been such a key part of why I want to compete in this game. And this video meets me just where I am at, Hardstuck bushin player. This helps putting things into perspective and cut my self some slack because Tekken's a hard a game afterall

[@Darkness2Maxrocko]

Would you ever consider hosting tournaments or learning discords so people could find others to play with that have similar goals.

[@Pwnr145]

A lot of time I'll watch Phi coaching and I'll just have this "oh he's talking to me about my bullshit," moment

[@happyclairofan]

starting to learn throw breaks by just watching the character do the throw a few times is so real, ive spent so many hours just watching each of fox's tech animations in melee and still can't tech chase consistently lmao

[@neke9045]

I only main DJ, got him to destruction, had no real interest in other characters or played them. When hei was released i switched and playing at Fujin / blue ranks i learnt what worked and didnt work well. I think the rank system works quite well regardless of your level.

[@MaryushXXVIII]

No, it does not. If im blue ranks and have to fight GoD that just tries other character im obviously doomed since i do not have enough knowledge in comparison to him. I have no idea why would you think it works otherwise.

[@tempo_808]

Thank you for this video, it points to things I am really struggling with

[@StarOutlaw9]

I've been playing since launch and only recently reached Fujin. I live in Asia and have to regularly fight Korean and Japanese players. Also I don't play a lot of Tekken, but mostly the other big 3D fighters like SC, VF, and DOA. I have very little knowledge about what moves are punishable. Also I main Steve and never really touched any other character in 8 until I tried Asuka last week. I don't know how good at this game I'm supposed to be.

[@quantum_tk]

You picked probably the 2 hardest characters to try and learn lol. Something you have to realize with these characters is that they are very defense oriented in a game that rewards offense. Asuka and Steve's offense is ok, but other characters are just better at it. You have to use your attacks defensively and that's a tricky concept to grasp. I'm a Steve main so I know your pain. I hope you stick with it though. This game is a lot of fun when you can see the inner workings of it all. If you have any questions feel free to ask :D

[@Zel-Veraan]

I would say not to think about your skill at the game, but instead think about your skill at doing specific things within it. Can you combo your opponent if you launch them? Can you punish them for whiffing in neutral? Are you able to recognize what strings you can escape by ducking? Every fighting game I've been good at stems from learning how to win interactions within a match. If I condition my opponent to block lows, I then open the option to launch them for their choice. Like PhiDX was saying, just see what your opponent does when you apply your offence and start looking for ways around what they do.

[@ragnarok7452]

Good luck if you play in Asian servers.

[@Zel-Veraan]

Slime has some incredible perspective on what he wants from the game and asked some phenomenal questions to get toward his goal.

[@intogrey2038]

6:36 what is the site I can not make it out?

[@PhiDX]

Tekken docs!

[@onewaone]

I'm currently Tekken Emperor but still bouncing on either Tekken King and Bushin. Still struggling against Azucena and Nina matchups

[@TheBoy14789]

We can run a set if you want. I play nina :)

[@onewaone]

@TheBoy14789 That would be nice :). But my main concern is region. I live in SEA

[@TheBoy14789]

@@onewaone damn, i live in eu 🤣. I also play pc

[@dredre0702]

Love the mindset he's coming into this with

[@C.C.Sinclaire]

Tekken 8 is the first tekken i tried to learn and they took my main :( Still, reaching fujin/raijin with a couple characters now, midrank tekken is such a weird experience. You get dudes that play like beginners, you get dudes that just know every mixup you put on em. Might just be bc i am kinda bad still

[@MichaelMineCraftings]

Slime not talking about gooning or squirting is so weird man 😂😭

[@jaleelkahn7032]

Thanks. It's so tough because people want to either explain obvious things, or "how to execute ___." There are so many things in the intermediate space. Like I know what a sidestep is but why it's not as good when I do it

[@magnetictempest145]

Nice video. 😎

[@th3bling]

22:35 lol...kinda funny how he's talking about how satisfying to duck and launch Drag's b4,3 while the video is looping Lili doing 2,4 which is also duckable. this Lili player did that a lot.

[@sstanford1331]

What do i do if there are no tips on my replays? sure i can see I'm in minus frames but idk how im getting in these situations

[@kostis957]

i just hit fujin with dvj i can win vs pretty much every beginner(till battle ruler) but from there i just dont know how to continue any ideas?

[@kaiser_83]

Can you share the link to the website with the frame data

[@badralshaibani1796]

What was the website at 6:40

[@nameless-nl7su]

Lmk if you find out HAHA

[@Iamkiingdrew]

Yeah phi gotta drop that link

[@PhiDX]

Tekkendocs!

[@Darkred28]

I think a better way to lab punishes is to have the dummy do a few plus frame moves, set that to 3 as your most frequent recording, then have all of your recordings for punishes do those same exact plus moves and then do the punish of your choice since your opponent in a game is not just going to stand there and do a move, they're going to add a bunch of other shit as well. So for example, I made Dragunov do fff3, then b1+2 on all the recordings but the very first recording is just these moves as the most frequent. I'll then do those same moves and have his 10, 11, etc. frame punishes, some throws, and Snake Edge on other recordings since I need better reactions. The goal for me is to make it as close to a real match as possible and not just stand center stage. Animations may be the same, but the angle will screw you up if you're not paying attention.

[@Nomdro]

Been a day 1 Yard watcher. Can't explain how excited I was to see the thumbnail bear was Slime. Love you phi 😊❤️

[@Phantomoscar]

What website did he do?

[@fancysinigang_tk]

Ayyyy Raven sighting! I need to train against lili. Appreciate the tutorial type vids your teaching style is super helpful. 😊

[@QuakeRangerTaya]

"Match up against a character and be like idk what there going. Worst when you win" me laughing that's been my experience with tekken being the first I actually like. I get it but just laughing at myself x3

[@MMDAQ]

Waiting for part 2

[@lazytommy0]

excellent advise i think

[@Chrizzly-]

Just reached Fujin rank myself... I think ranking up higher than that would recquire a ridiculous amount of practice, drilling and studying (frames).... Probably too much of a hazzle that would spoil the game for me.

[@anish.r.j1555]

Maybe its just me but Kishin/Bushin seems like a little too high of a bar to label as intermediate level. Great video again and insightful stuff again!

[@PhiDX]

I think intermediate in Tekken is a huge range Many Kishin/Bushin players do not know: • their character's frames • their character's stances • proper combo routes • adjusting for the wall This is not shade at those players; it's more that advanced Tekken is imo where most players understand *at least* their character, even if they don't know every matchup.

[@livingashtree1942]

"Advanced" really starts at "Tekken King" i would say. Kishin/Bushin is pretty much still considered intermediate level but i can understand why some would consider it advanced.

[@anish.r.j1555]

@@PhiDX Fairs, your are obv much more qualified to give an overview about where the skillsets of players in those ranks are in relation to the highest level. Keep up the great content! I agree that leveling up from intermediate to more advanced play is probably the hardest evolution for most Tekken players.

[@jk2l]

what is your recommendation practice against aggressive oki trap? i felt in the intermediate ranks most of the people try to aggressively 50/50 you on oki. if i try stand up they low swipe and sometime when i duck they mid attack launcher so stuck in combo/fall on ground loop

[@PhiDX]

Stay down a little longer!

[@quantum_tk]

@@jk2l what Phi said, but also look at what got you there in the first place. Oki is not a favorable position to be in, and no amount of skill will change that. (Though there are things you can do to make it hurt less, like staying on the ground) What skill WILL get you however, is the chance to avoid that scenario entirely by not getting launched. We all make mistakes, but focusing on the outcome of bad mistakes is worse than focusing on the mistakes itself. "Don't cry over spilled milk" right?

[@neniv]

This is such a good video. I value Slime's perspective as a longtime competitive melee player.

[@Phantomoscar]

What does flow charting mean?

[@ThisIsNotSGHNTZ]

To me flowchart is something which is unsafe or beatable but no one knows the matchup so everyone still eats it, so it's a "if it's works then it's works" kinda stuff.

[@siyoiii7709]

I know these kinds of videos about intermediate level stuff is better for youtube content, but is there any chance of you making videos for higher level concepts like offense/defense timings, neutral movement/blocking options, etc.? Appreciate this vid tho of course

[@PhiDX]

Every pro analysis video I do targets what you're asking about!

[@siyoiii7709]

​@@PhiDXoh ok my b, I will check those out then Still though (just as a genuine suggestion) would be cool to see this same coaching/q&a/problem solving process regarding those topics I mentioned. Obviously not really in your control since you'd have to have someone approach you about it, but figured I'd say it anyway. Thanks man

[@NYG5]

When you get into blue ranks and then Tekken King, first learn how to absolutely stop throwing up hail Mary moves, players absolutely destroy you for whiffing when you cross into this realm.

[@edwinrice9612]

Can you get my Ling past Tekken God or my Paul past TGS?

[@Donalob]

Anyone know the website at like 6-7 mins in?

[@PhosHouseki]

i just feel lost dude, xiayou, yoshimitsu, dragunov. these 3 chars feel like they take 5 years of tekken to slightly deal with them.

[@sydthesadman]

I can't believe it i tried tekken 8 one time in my friend's game cafe and i was hooked. Still suck after 3months on a ps5 controller but i love learning. Ty for this content ❤

[@r.limhathungezung8648]

If u wanna stick with pad, get a ps4 controller or change the pad of the ps5. Makes life much easier. In my opinion

[@AfroKing.]

​@@r.limhathungezung8648 I love the ps5 pad

[@RuTo94]

5:00 To be able to remember the move to punish I just keep practicing the same move to punish like 30-50 times a day for about like a week then it becomes muscle memory when you run into a player using that move.

[@kyx5631]

Mate, a full week for a single move? When do you intend to be done with punish training for all characters, 2027?

[@RuTo94]

@@kyx5631 do this with characters your having problems punishing with and if your having problems punishing all characters then yes if lucky early 2028

[@BlackStar300]

So I have a bit of issue with this and its just the nature of the game, but I'm new to fighting games competitively without playing with my friends so never cared, but they say T8 is good for casuals, but only to a certain point because then you get this. He's blue ranks, but I'm hard stuck in red and its like yea you can play casually and its "good" for new players to join in, but then you get "oh you won't be good for 2 years" , "its like a real martial art", "you won't be 'decent' til next Tekken game" and as a casual/new player its like is the game really good for people like me? If I pick this game up and I'll never be remotely good for what seems like years or just constantly being destroyed by stuff at red ranks like where is the casual gameplay at? How is this good for casuals and new players? Seems like tekken is a game that if you weren't around for the beginning you might as well get out. I feel like with other FGs its not like that or at least I don't hear that considering Tekken is labeled as the hardest fighting game.

[@GiovanniBallerinii]

It takes years If you're trying learning the game just by ranked matches, if you are playing an easy character you can reach fujin in 2 weeks by just using replay feature and Punish drills

[@Ginormousbeans]

"where is the casual gameplay?" Is a really strange question to ask specifically about ranked matchmaking lmao

[@DarnellU]

So you think the game isn't really for casuals? But you're frustrated you can't rank up? Casual friendly games don't mean you're guaranteed wins. I don't think you're as casual as you think you are. If you want to win more, get better. This isn't a game you're gonna get good at overnight. You have to dedicate some time and effort if you want to get good. If that's not the kind of game for you play against the cpu

[@mafelion6901]

What is this rant even about?

[@punnoah7686]

Dont listen to this bs Tekken IS my first fighting game and im Tekken god by learning the matchu,techs and taking breaks

[@alial-lami7963]

this video made me go back to tekken, i hadnt played in a week since i hit fujin lol

[@gavinquirk4098]

Maybe I do it the hard but I never lab I play Leo and memorize my punishes for different frames and I'll spend basically the first 2 rounds or even first whole game mostly just blocking and picking my right time to test a punish then second game I'll punish and frame trap before eventually moving on to stance mix ups because in my mind it's up to my opponent for what I need to punish what are their habits I need to adapt to but to be fair my way of playing is only really do able if you can fuzzy guard other wise you lose to three interactions and don't know wtf happened

[@quantum_tk]

I play like that too, and personally, I think it comes down to my experience with Tekken 7. The more defense oriented playstyle really rewarded you in those interactions. However, one thing I've come to realize is that being forced to fuzzy duck means you made a mistake somewhere along the way. It's not a favorable position to be in, and no amount of skill will alleviate that. You have to be more proactive with your defense which is a really hard concept to grasp. I think it adds more depth to the game, but also makes it harder to get right, which is tough.

[@yoyoprofessorxavier]

Blue ranks is alot of knowledge checking. That's my experience.

[@sstanford1331]

Kazuya and Jin are gate keeping me from Bushin.

[@РоманСмородов-л2в]

How? They are one of the most known matchups. Especially Kaz. One wrong move and he doomed to launch

[@Gabi24492]

​@@РоманСмородов-л2в Jin IS top tier and kazuya IS a strong vortex character lol. Don't pretend they can't be problematic

[@CameronKujo]

@@Gabi24492Jin has been evading patches like the plague

[@livingashtree1942]

That's because he doesn't need to get nerfed​. Talking about Jin getting nerfed while there are characters like Yoshi, Drag, Alisa and Xiaoyu running around is crazy @@CameronKujo Problem with Jin is, if he does get nerfed they'll have to compensate by giving him more moves. Which is simply because of his fightstyle

[@livingashtree1942]

​@@РоманСмородов-л2вyou've never fought a strong Kazuya before?? These 50/50s been getting wild

[@Demi-kid]

As im stuck in kishin. Im fully aware i gotta practice and watch replays.

[@Hypercube1729]

Meh, I'm Fujin with 7 different characters. After I reach Fujin I stop ranking. Because after that you need alot of knowledge about how to punish properly, when to flashduck, which way to sidestep strings, how to break throws and good movement. Nah, I play videogames to relax and have fun, not to something that feels like a chore. It's way easier and more fun to just learn your own character and some cheezy strings and flowcharts and just mash away, like Tekken 8 is meant to. If they find a way to avoid it --> powercrush. And just use heat and rageart and all the other silly stuff. After blue ranks you meet people who can deal with all this, then it's not fun anymore. Fujin level is more than good enough.

[@El-Burrito]

Learning the entire cast by gradually ranking everyone up to blue is a totally valid way to play

[@KarmaKomet]

I get that pulling off knowledge checks/cheese feels good, but the “deeper” fighting game past that stuff can also be really enjoyable if you commit to trying it.

[@Sin-pt2eq]

You’d be surprised at how some of these players play at tekken king and above 💀 it feels like 70% of my matches are just fighting mindless players using every gimmick snd cheese move at their disposal, and then the other 30% are decent chess matches

[@alondjeckto]

Fujin with prowess 240k+ agree, fujin with one character nah.

[@GiovanniBallerinii]

I don't think Tekken 8 is meant to reach fujin

[@nna1u39]

I made it to Kishin once after switching to arcade stick; don;t get me wrong I love this game, I just have to watch Phil everyday if I stand even remotely of a chance to see it again :')

[@maaramori3404]

That drill works against anybody except fking steve. No matter how many replays I watch I just don't get a single idea what's his doing upclose. I get the Over here stance and his single kick move transition which is the most obvious, but everything else is just...

[@redwolfkun]

I tend to use the normal mode of punish training a lot to help me memorise visually my punishes. It’s useful for me to get comfortable with my different punishes tools, after that I tend to set the game to defence training to go over moves I struggle with while applying my visual recognition. I find the normal punish training fairly useful, as it helps me get comfortable with my characters tools. I’ve never thought it was bad, as I tended to default to my 10 frame punish whenever I was uncertain. Now I’m far more comfortable punishing correctly.

[@roninhubbard9059]

I feel like if you have your flow chart down and have a little character knowledge. You'll do fine in kishin

[@Mone_M1]

🔥🔥🔥

[@DarkLess89X]

Yes, Kishin here. Im very confusing 😊

[@koneko_x]

Lmao the comment at 29:07 and the reactions to it. "Hello, im a furry..."

[@JBlxckk]

bryan player here just hit kishin today first time i only play customs because tekken at my rank feels so hard i play on discord a lot against god of destructions and tekken gods and do fairly well i take a good amount of sets so i don’t get it sometimes perfect video

[@JBlxckk]

16:58 lol this is exactly how i play i have an extremely strong offense barely defense i know how to stop most of my own options there for when the opponent shows they know aswell i go for a mix

[@JBlxckk]

lol he said what i just said 5 min later !

[@jmyers112]

This was good.

[@keemorg3997]

Wait, according to thumbnail, Kishin is intermediate? Cries in warrior tears...

[@JoaoPucci]

Aren't oki setups important? I feel like they are the cause of most of my wins.

[@ThisIsNotSGHNTZ]

Character depending imo, my main Bryan doesn't have good oki in the neutral for example so it's not that important for him, you can do little knowledge checks, try to do taunt, but meh, he wants to CH launch you and send you to the wall where his oki and taunt setups are immediately becomes important. But a lot of characters don't have good oki, so you better go for the dmg and wall carry, wall dmg, heat burst, into pressure, 50/50.

[@tristanderoo]

PhiDX is so good at Tekken he can even teach a gibon

[@misellus3931]

blue ranks is intermediate? cool i guess im not even decent

[@Lowly_Tarnished]

I don't care what anyone say, to me red is intermediate, purple/ruler is intermediate +, blue is already really good players

[@AfroKing.]

There's nothing wrong with being intermediate or even low level. It's just a category that is used to gauge many players on a general level.

[@GrownManPat]

Blue ranks currently is where a lot of skilled players are. Skilled as in good conversions, decent punish, movement and decent oki.

[@Walamonga1313]

Nah, even if you take out the ranks where you literally can't lose points blue is still not intermediate. If I were to divide ranks I'd say it goes beginner (up to green), amateur (up to orange) , intermediate (up to purple), advanced (up to blue), expert (up to golden) and then pretty much pro (GOD). In blue ranks you definitely have to be at least decent against every character, know your character really well, know the basics well

[@GrownManPat]

@@Walamonga1313 It's not so easy to say. Blue rank now is very mixed. Some players make me wonder how they go that far with how they play. I've made to Tekken King with Lars but I been playing since Tekken 2.

[@JLo安全]

Commonly known as Ludwig's friend is wild 😂

[@silver_dem0n525]

I'm glad I got the hell out of blue ranks 😭

[@Kingkaindal]

stuck on Kishin for 2 months now. everytime I'm closing in to bushin. There's that HoeRang HIYYYAAAing me back

[@Kevin-m4d]

1:48 this guy

[@OrionTekken]

The difference in skill between a Bushin Kuma and a Bushin Bryan, wild...

[@Crimsongz]

🤣💯

[@SugarRoll]

Indeed. Bryan and Mishima's I've faced in blue ranks has been a bigger struggle compared to bears and stance based characters. Their spacing were more solid and much more methodical in their gameplay. I find myself asking why is this guy only fujin? And then there's this stance based character and I ask myself, how is this guy Kishin?

[@zer0cx110]

Bryan’s an easy character to play .. and his strategy is so simple

[@AB-wb9kg]

​@@zer0cx110oh look we have a Tekken expert here. You must have god of destruction rank with Bryan right? I mean you think he's easy after all

[@РоманСмородов-л2в]

​@@zer0cx110 maybe you will also say "Kazuya is OP amd easy"?

[@juanesemamusic9339]

Bear nina would go hard in ttt2

[@Vmannetje1]

Hey guys how is it going?

[@juandor9789]

Good, you?

[@WackJack187]

P good getting off of work soon might lab law later

[@SonDripku]

Horrible, sat down for 4hrs+ grinding ranked just yo end up at the same place I started

[@anso3886]

Eh it’s alright just casual playing tekken in blue/green rank casually before studying for a test 😅

[@syahrules]

⁠ranked is temporary, experience is forever

[@achabacha3328]

Please make a video on a local tournament in Pakistan...

[@Plaprr]

Phi post i watch

[@truonggiangngo6512]

I feel like tekken 8 is turning its players into fow-chart-bots! Ppl think it’s a turn based game that encourages aggressive gameplay and I kinda hate that. For me the most essential things are spacing, timing and match up knowledge and tekken 8 is doing no effort to enforce those things

[@rahahtheking6160]

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