Frame Traps For Dummies - Tekken 8

[@thenomix-upmix-up717]

Doing 8- or 10-minute "guides" is easy, as they tend to be very superficial. What Phid is doing is incredible: making so much effort to produce these in-depth, super high-quality content for the community and newcomers! I hope one day you get all the recognition you truly deserve.

[@makotyre]

Been a Tekken fan for many years, but with no locals in my area, I've only played offline against CPUs. Now that Tekken 8 has netcode which is (debatably) up to the task I finally found the motivation to hop online. Concepts like frame data have always been super intimidating as a novice, but these tutorial vids have made it all concise, easy, and fun to learn. It's hilarious how simple it actually is once explained proficiently. Thank you so much PhiDX!

[@d9_1056]

Thanks! I'm about the "cheese" the boys out this weekend. Labbing frame traps tonight.

[@johnnymonsterrrr]

9 months and dude still didnt tell us if they pressed

[@oliolieollie3516]

You single handedly have GIVEN me my first major improvements ever in tekken its unreal how helpful this shit is thank you

[@archides2778]

This is really good. Seeing you apply it in a match, and then of course the way King was uncooperative with all his jabs, was exactly like what a match feels like. Thanks for talking us through your logic.

[@Spockability]

Oh man, the live narration over a real match after the lesson is like next-level tutorial stuff. Very smart and super helpful

[@thepersonwho2166]

You're the Aris of the new Tekken generation with all these tutorials you're putting up. Already looking forward to your next video!

[@jacobsteele9825]

Yeah, except Phi's about a billion times more digestible and nicer of a person. That's the biggest difference I noticed.

[@drowsylynx]

he's not stoned enough

[@CloudianOG]

Aris is extremely nice, clearly people don’t understand him but Aris is the GOAT , a great teacher keeps you interested the whole time and Lord Arnis does exactly that , anyways be cool *hits bong*

[@jacobsteele9825]

No part of this comment was intelligible. I wouldn't expect less from an Aris beard-rider, though. @@CloudianOG

[@VocalTK]

phidx is a lot more knowledgeable when it comes to how game mechanics actually work. Aris has a good amount of legacy knowledge but people went to his "tutorials" because he's likeable, not because they were the best source of information.

[@Googlrr]

Really enjoyed this video. I'm in the low ranks right now and know a bunch of combos and have been struggling to actually land them. Really humbling when someone picks your main without knowing any combos and still crushes just with simple concepts. This really helped with developing my game plan!

[@cylondorado4582]

It’s kind of like Dungeons and Dragons. The math seems off putting, but it’s it’s actually pretty straightforward addition and subtraction.

[@mrlion8834]

Man I remember back in the day trying to figure so much crap out by myself on TekkenZaibatsu. This information age is absolutely incredible and I really believe creators like MainMan and PhiDX are ushering in a golden age of Tekken. Amazing content. The average level of the average player is going to be so high.

[@mbfun9298]

On the topic of frame adventage this will probably be part from some other video but what helped me also is treat armor moves impact frames not when their attacks land but when their armor triggers. For example dragunov is around i7-i8 for 1+2. What means that doing it after moves that leave you on minus -2 or -3 makes them uniterupltable by any (non grab) high/mid moves of 10 frames up. Leaving you on -5 makes you absorb i12 frame punihsers etc etc. Why is this important. People will usually test out punish with something like 1,2 first ( their i10) and then move up, and depending on how eager the person is they might want to respond as soon as possible so whey will usually mash out if they think that it is relatively safe to do so. This example shows itself very well for for example 1,1,3 dragunov'v move which is -9 on block. Here hitting imputing a jab will almost interupt anything dragunov will do ( including the armor 1+2 as ) but given the range it leaves them ( a little bit outside of jab range for most characters) they will try with the slower move, which is why 1,1,3 into 1+2 works if used sparingly.

[@chocobolord_]

Finally a video on frame traps, I've been waiting for one on the topic for so long! Thanks PhiDX for the amazing content!

[@phoenixrajiv]

Never saw this clear! Giving example and jotting it down was very helpful. This is going to help a lot of tekken players! Thank you!!!!

[@Swoophy]

Well put together PhiDX. This made a lot of sense, even for someone who is relatively new to Tekken and had no idea what a Frame Trap was. Now I know. I think you’re good at explaining. Looking forward to see a “Punish” video.

[@KKFWB]

broooo ur so good at teaching the brine vid was awesome, noone has bloced my dragu 1+2 throw into df2 bcs wakeup options are so obtuse

[@deadmanraging8864]

That tech has been with drag since T7. But to avoid it you just wake up while holding back so you block it or you just stay on the ground until they hit df2 and whiff

[@TheMehkey]

@@deadmanraging8864 that is incorrect

[@deadmanraging8864]

@@TheMehkey I could be wrong, what's the correct wake up response then?

[@genzo454]

​​​@@deadmanraging8864 If you hold back after Dragunov's u/f+1+2 throw, the d/f+2 will clip you because the back rise animation from that position leaves your back exposed for enough frames to get hit by the d/f+2. You _can_ avoid it by staying on the ground, that much is true. Or maybe I misunderstood, and you were referring to pressing up to do a quick rise? Because that option also works (you stand up in time to block the d/f+2). And funnily enough forward roll somehow beats the d/f+2???

[@deadmanraging8864]

@@genzo454yep I was referring to pressing up to block the df2.

[@badrmukhtar809]

This so informative and oddly entertaining. I'm an intermediate fighter and I know what a frame trap is but have I encountered such depth and detail yet semplefied, easy to digest and understand concept the way you explain it and easy and intuitive method to calculate. With real match examples and using only bare-bones fundamental ugh! Such a chef's kiss!! Thank you Phi for being such a Chad and down to earth guy. Side note: was waiting for that power crush frames but I can always look it up.

[@robertharris1076]

I thought I was subbed been watching your vids for a while. I think this video will finally help me improve. I've finally locked down high and mid parrys as well as low parry and thats helped me alot with breaking my skill cieling but I've been feeling I've been struggling on punishes and being punished etc and i believe it's cause I use my moves and i know how to do them but I dont pay attention to frames at all but i have a general idea based of feel from playing what attacks and combos are faster or slower but im not 100%. This gonna help

[@DreamingEllie]

Best frame tutorial i've ever seen. I also love the way you use on screen notes. it makes it way more clear as a viewer!

[@Serg_Kot]

😻Thank you for this and other videos on your channel. Your tutorials are very useful and informative. They are very well structured and the way you present the material makes it easy to understand complex things. I hope to see more great Tekken 8 videos from you in the future.

[@PhiDX]

Thank you very much for your generosity

[@AMongoose87]

I just started playing reina and also trying to learn more about frames and traps. This video rolls a lot of things into one place perfectly. Thanks PhiDX for the awesome work you do 🤩

[@AscendArcade]

This is a lot to take in but VERY helpful. Thanks @PhiDX!

[@HalftimeOranges328]

Despite trying to get my head around it as a relatively new Tekken player all things frame related confused me immensely. This video has finally helped it click. Amazing work thank you!!

[@neimyx1]

This is the best explanation I've ever heard on frame advantage. I've been playing Tekken for years and it has always confused me until now.

[@starbutter2730]

This is one of if not the best explanation of not just frametraps but also frame data ive seen. The way you break it down just clicks with me, ty for these as a newcomer to tekken❤

[@99DTC99]

Minor correction PhiDX for option 2 for WR3 to d2 counter, it's side-steppable on both sides but because you're on P1 side blocking and in crouching state, you can not side step downwards, hence can't side step right. So on P2 side on block you can't side step left and you can side step only to the right and still avoid the mixup. But you've demonstrated this earlier @14:53, you showed that WR3 to d2 can be side step both sides. 😀

[@PhiDX]

Good catch thank you!

[@StarRain6]

shouldnt Harada fix that it seems like a glitch.

[@mikenike7225]

Phi is rocking the hell out of the YT content lately. Absolutely love seeing you succeeding man

[@MurphDerty513]

As a new player, thank you Phi for all of the informative videos. I’m trying to learn the fundamentals and not get in the habit of any mashing tactics and these videos really help! Tekken isn’t something you just pick up and go off to the races but the journey has been so much fun and it’s just begun.

[@Ardusades]

thank you for all these vids that are super in depth and beginner friendly!! i've always enjoyed watching tekken and have been wanting to get better, i love watching your videos to help educate me on some tekken knowledge i wouldn't really be able to know as a beginner

[@Christopher-rt1ui]

Learning and using frame traps like this is the single best piece of advice I’ve found to help play Tekken 8 better at lower ranks. Great video!

[@DemonKnight94]

It's also worth mentioning that you can Frame Trap on hit too not ony on block. Great against players who likes to mash and don't like to block, most moves are + frames on hit. When you have conditioned the opponent to respect the Frame Trap, you can instead go for a slower but powerfull 50/50 or a throw.

[@Miss_Majin_Anime_Queen]

I just wanna say I’ve watched a lot of tekken tutorials and content and you are by far the best for my brain and I’ve learnt how to actually implement things in match just from watching you demonstrate them. So, thank you 🙏🏼

[@ageofthegeek8972]

Honestly glad I saw this video I was thinking about trying to play Reina and I know this was for store early levels but your explanation of frame tattoos while seeing it in game was enough for me to try her out as well.

[@CELINExDION]

You’ve always been one of my favorite competitors and I’m only just discovering you make insanely useful, easy to understand tutorials. Thank you for helping me suck less.

[@kisuke5491]

I’m new in tekken and I’m really hooked up with the game. Your teaching is very easy to understand and put and practice. As a profesional musician I’m totally agree with you about learning the rules first in order to break it after, thanks for helping me to understand the world of frames. Keep the good content 🤜🏼🤛🏼

[@RikkusguardianLanif]

Been loving all your Tekken 8 guides lately! It's been really helping me get a deeper understanding of the game and what I need to focus on to improve, be it breaking throws, or in this case the reason of Frame Data existing.

[@rafaeldefier]

The content phidx is doing lately is just immensely valuable, this isn't a guide, this is a full-blown class. Keep up the good work, man!!

[@prancinfairy]

Great video, learned alot even tho ive been playing 10 hours a day! Keep it up phi!

[@PhiDX]

So glad it helped. Let me know if any other topics are interesting to cover

[@Hakido]

As soon as I saw the explanation on how frames worked I understood what frame trapping meant, but this was super helpful still. Ty!

[@grumpysourdough]

you earned my subscription. you really do know how to take something as arduous as frame data and how to utilize it in a match.

[@kessone3400]

Even as a decade-long casual player, this info is extremely crucial to have a base-knowledge of! Amazing job with these tutorials. Instant SUB.

[@skittyjazz]

you have no idea how much i love this video, thanks for making this

[@davealaya]

Please pin this comment: The reason this tutorial is so excellent is because Phidx is not using "terminology into terminology into terminology" method of explanation. Each layer of terminology is broken down in the correct order, which is extremely conducive to retaining information. The best teachers explain each step without assuming the student is familiar with concepts by name alone. As many of you have noted; frame traps are simple math that a 4th grade could understand. However, terms like "plus on block", "punish", "advantage" leave much to the imagination and require immediate understanding to make progress.

[@ThyGippo]

Thank you, Sensei.

[@malikepperson6164]

your tutorials are AMAZING!!! I have been playing tekken casually for years and your few videos have taught me so much. thank you

[@subzero200]

These guides are incredible I'm massively grateful.

[@giovannirotondo1097]

I was just trying to figure this stuff out earlier today. Thanks for trying to make me a better Tekken player!;)

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

I think the most fun I have watching people go over their old content is seeing patterns in how they speak

[@sindur3446]

The look on Phi’s face while trying to explain frame traps during King chain throws lmao 😩

[@fifteenbongos]

Coming from fighting games where a jab gets you a really good frametrap, getting a handle on them in tekken has been really difficult. Appreciate this video a lot, already feels so much more clear what I should be looking to do.

[@rinnafeuglace]

This is every informative for me who's learning reina, thank you for the content you are making keep up the amazing work

[@Vospi]

I know it's not on topic, but I would love to know what Notepad program is that, which font is that even (very comfortable to read) and do you open that on a second monitor? I wanted to try and lab visually for a long time. In the previous game, glorious Applay's tables helped me so much :)

[@Vospi]

In another stream, Phil've mentioned that it's Notepad++, I should've guessed, my old np++ looks way different; the font is under investigation :)

[@cristiandoce7436]

I love this videos you are uploading, as someone new to fighting games and tekken, they are incredibly usefull. From the theory, to the practice, to the actual application on a match. Very well explained! Thank you very much, and keep it up!

[@pkcoffee33]

I watched a few of your videos before I bought Tekken 8. I'm not sure I would have bought it if there wasn't such good videos for beginners, and yours are the best I've come across. They should be giving you a kick back on sales!

[@pawlaczyna]

I don't know if it's even possible to explain frame traps clearer than this. Great vid!

[@KingQuetzal]

Great video. Most helpful video I have ever watched on tekken. You talking about your thoughts and strategies out-loud while playing was awesome. I could learn so much if you upload more videos like that.

[@henrymendoza4259]

Man I got lucky finding your videos. This is my first Tekken and your videos has really helped me understand the game better.

[@Rizu-Senpai]

I really have to thank you PhiDX, your Videos helped me understand Tekken on a different Level. With your traps and movement advice I've finally become a Tekken King! Keep up the good work, Sensei! 🎉❤

[@TowBoatSam]

Bro thank you so much for this! This is EXACTLY what I’ve been looking for.

[@deadmanraging8864]

I have been playing Tekken properly since tag 2 and I still don't understand the concept of frame traps this video is a great informative resource!

[@deldrickchatman2023]

I'm not really a math person, but his logic did have me go "hmm..." "hm..yes..yes....I see his logic" lol

[@janelippert8033]

You are actually goated man thx. Especially when you brought all that theorie into live action. Really helped the knowledge to sink in. 👍

[@Jabogers]

That statement about climbing the ranks using only frame traps early on is so true. As a Feng main, it's insane how many rounds I've won just from frame trapping someone using his b+3 into a 1,2,2 or 1,3 string. It no longer works as well in the Red ranks, but it definitely served me well up until Orange.

[@paulolivo9618]

This was a good video, I always wanted to see how frame healing worked in tekken and man it’s interesting how it’s similar but still different in other fighting games

[@RiceRocket777]

Looking forward to the other side of the coin (punishment) video. Love these guides, really helping me learn the game!

[@DustySpecter_Mage]

Really well explained. You’re a legend!!

[@alimwooden4874]

Thanks for choosing Reina. She seems to have a ton of plus frame and fast punishment options

[@QuimZangui]

Thank you very much bro, this is the type of content we need, I'm not a Reina player but I was able to learn a lot and I'll definitely practice this on my character

[@AndyNocturne]

Straight fire, as always!!! And great music analogy at the end

[@sgt.rudolf3811]

Glad the algorithm let you spawn in my suggestions! You gained another follewr dood, thanks for you work, quality!

[@Joetime90]

I don't know why you don't have at least 100k subs. Your Tekken content has been top tier.

[@shizan292]

I would say the plus frame/frametraps tips are half of the Truth and they only work so well on your showing matches, because all the other things you do are so perfectly executed, most important movement. My personal explanation/experience: Tekken 8 is the first Tekken i took serious, when it comes to grinding, learning and playing online, i have a lot SF experience though. When i reached Warrior while learning from theses KZbin videos, i hardstucked for (luckily only) 1-2 days. I spammed these frame traps and tried to pressure with the fastest punches, but it didn't work out, i had no control over the match and the stage, the outcome felt like a coinflip. I thought "why the hell does this stuff not work for me, he showed IN MATCHES that it works" After a little bit more playtime and watching even more videos, i realized the most and best punishes you can get are from whiff punishes, so i stopped being in the face of the opponent and putting out my attack string and kept distance. Enough distance to be safe, but also to go in, when the enemy does unsafe stuff. And that's basically it, adding more movement basics and watching for timing when to do things and not just do it, like my monkey brain did. So in addition to PhiDX amazing tips to using frame advantage, use your backdash and forward dash a lot, play less aggressive and more observing, and keep a good safe distance to the enemy. Maybe its obvious stuff for a Tekken Player with a lot of experience, but that was the missing info for me, when it comes to the frame advantage to me and myb with a similar situation reads this.. got from warrior to orange rank in 3 hours with this 👍

[@PhiDX]

Yes movement and whiff punishment are key fundamentals for sure, I'm glad you were able to figure that out 🙏🏼

[@VillainessAO]

Bro this is a very comprehensive video I'll recommend it to many of my beginner friends

[@Phatsnake]

I’m only 12 minutes in and I’m impressed. You’re a great teacher. Also, I’ve been avoiding learning about the concept of frame data for over a decade because I thought to myself there’s no way I can count frames with my eyes 😂

[@kingizengar]

Bro you are the greatest coach of so time. You taught me something no one else has ever been able to. Frame date.

[@magnusgundersen2779]

Nice in depth look at frame data, very very helpful and very understandable, thanks a bunch! :D.

[@cykedelik]

you have no idea how good these videos are to us beginners, thank you please make more!

[@Cherilyn_45]

Thanks a lot for this video, it's very helpful! I did know what a frame trap was, didnt know how to use them efficiently in a match. Thanks for sharing some strategy 😊

[@MTARay]

This is insane, I have just been using whatever moves look cool and gets me the win. Didn’t realise it was this deep.😂

[@frozenpryde]

I learned a lot in this video! Thank you for sharing this, and am looking forward to new content for beginners! I was a button masher from Tekken 3 days and I'm trying to get into 8 properly (Also to beat my friends!)

[@delimann0]

Amazing. Can’t wait to start my homework (learning Jin’s frame traps and options) thank you ❤

[@froilanidica996]

Thank you for this! I was stuck in Orange for 1 week and finally reach Red today after reviewing my mistakes.

[@MorganFuse]

Now it makes so much sense. Special thanks for using Reina as an example. Now I now that I can use WR +3 into 1+1+2 sentai 3, since it’s hit confirmed 😮 that’s crazy. 1+2 and cancel into WR3. Thanks a lot man!

[@zorojuro8860]

dude I'm ngl i luv tekken but now u make me feel like idk nothing about it and now i even luv it more cuz now i understand what a frame trap is so thank u thank u thank ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@gliath888]

If more Tekken players understood these concepts better, the player base would improve drastically overnight. Great content as always!

[@RickRothstein843]

You’re so technical but yet very understanding with your vids 💯💯💯 I love that shit

[@TheMichaelAntonio]

I already understood frame traps, but for some reason the bit where you focus on doing just ONE thing during the match really helped me. I usually 100% lose to Kazuya, but after this video I 3-0 one w/ ease. Thank you for this! Ous!

[@TheMichaelAntonio]

Nevermind. I loss immediately after

[@MechaMefi]

Super usefuil video, gotta check all the frames for my main to figure out the frame traps myself (I know I could look them up but it's fun to check it myself and probably good for learning)

[@WhatMACHI]

This was a really well taught video! As a returning player to tekken, some of the fundamentals you explained of how to utilise a frame advantage or mixup were great. Really liked how you overlayed the game screen, your camera and the text pad too. Keep it up!

[@impy808]

Excellent video. I will be putting this into practice. Thx.

[@sobo089]

Man watching all of this as a newcomer is really tough. So many nuances to this game it’s crazy 🤣

[@kgeo2686]

Ok wow. Can’t resist nor do I want to. You have won my first tekken sub. You are absolutely crushing it with the content 💪🔥🔥

[@fancysinigang_tk]

Great video man! Learned a lot and like many have commented you really do have a talent for teaching. Glad to see your channels growth!

[@jkdman2007]

He also has great skills and execution. It's hard to win with only a few moves even at low level gameplay.

[@Master_Poizan]

Been playing claudio for last 6 month's and finally decided to switch to reina for tekken 8. I have watched quite a few of your videos and the quaality is out of the world man. Thumbs up and sub is on me ^^

[@triv4555]

You're honestly goated PhiDX, thanks for this knowledge 😁

[@SoloKrypton]

Loving the tutorials. I dont have T8 yet, but i'm err, 'labbing vicariously' through these

[@GHJ22]

Dragunov anti frame trap video needed. Guy destroyed me in rank with the same move . Looking at this video you made me realize what he was doing .

[@gagagag7051]

In the middle of the video i was like okay how do i counter it, and then it got mentioned that this will be covered later. 👌 Perfect!

[@nihilistblues]

I’m not sure if this is too much to ask for but would it be possible to make a frame trap video guide per character? So what the best and most effective punishes are in general for each character? Love the videos this is my first tekken and fighting game and you’ve been helping me understand A LOT! Hope you’re well much love 🫶🏻

[@pektuspektus612]

I am enjoying your tutorials despite long video. Will be waiting for further tutorials. Thank you so much PhiDx!!! 🕹️

[@QwikDa1st]

Excellent work as always!