Red Ranks don't ask the right Tekken questions.

[@slickiru2066]

ive been playing fighting games for about 9 years, and i originally started with jojos HFTF, and MVC3, eventually switching to GGST competitively. my entire perception of fighting games was this super neutral based, 2D game with virtually no pressure other than a single mixup, into a TOD. so mechanically I was totally fine coming into tekken, but for everything else i basically felt like i had to relearn fighting games all over again, considering how ultra important frame data and MU knowledge was in particularly tekken compared to other fighters where you can just mindlessly run your own offense without thinking, as well as it being a 3d fighter! I won't lie, when I came into the chat I JUST got off of a loss that felt really frustrating and my question was toned with half-asking and half-venting. After that it was a huge snowball; I accidentally gave the wrong frametraps I was using because I was scared of being made fun of but it actually led to more backlash from the chat specifically. I purposely said frametraps that I knew were sure to work, or i thought would work properly. (For those who are wondering, i was actually using wr2 into db3+4 or wr2 into d2, which we all know has a ginormous gap and I'm getting hopkicked for very obvious reasons on that) It was initially really stressful and i started to panic really bad cuz it felt like the spotlight was just blasted on me by a lot of people that I'm normally not used to receiving, so I kinda had the instinct to run away and just never look back, but it was still a great opportunity to learn something new. I really appreciate phidx's empathy and everyone else who was also very considerate about how I was being treated at the time, but it's really no worries now. I've also dropped dragunov for a while and am playing bryan, and already got him to garyu and notice my defense has improved dramatically from switching to a fucking hyper-aggressive semitruck, to a very defensive counterhit machine. very excited to progress, next goal is blue ranks! thank u guys for the help/support

[@dgmaka6292]

Keep on keeping on. Learning with everyone on a new release is an unparalleled communal experience. Bothering to bring this up and learn despite the blowback is huge.

[@GustavoFandubs]

WE WON, ONE LESS DRAGUNOV IN THE WORLD

[@DiegoXRA]

Best of luck 👍

[@gustavogoesgomes1863]

just to mention, I think that the problem with your question wasn't even how you put it. it was the fact that you were asking about offense and being frustrated about your rank. ranking up doesn't correlate directly to playing better. if you focus into getting higher ranks, you will get good at getting ranks, not at playing tekken. trying to learn fundamentals will actually make you lose ranks, naturally, because it involves defensive play in an offensive oriented game. it involves execution, timing and interacting with your opponent instead of shutting their gameplay with offense. just to mention, there is nothing wrong in just wanting to rank up the easiest way, if that's what you want cool for you. but if you actually want to get better naturally and explore your full potential in the long, long run (talking about years), you should start to invest on defense and fundamentals. I would suggest to get another character as the "learning character", so you don't care about their rank, and keep dragunov as your main "tryhard" character, so you can have both and enjoy the game on your own pace

[@warfighter1988]

Don't worry bro we've all felt that and I'll be honest he got way too annoyed at the question hr could've just said give me more info but he got a little butt hurt because he was playing ranked. Respect to you for sticking around, but don't be too hard on yourself. You did nothing wrong you were just unclear

[@Dyleniz]

Real ones saw this before it got re uploaded

[@alanlegend6751]

I can be very forgetful at times so I was really wondering if I saw it earlier even though it was just uploaded lol Like, I could've sworn I saw it 🥲

[@shavitsapozhnikov1050]

​@@alanlegend6751 same here I was like "I swear there was a guy with similar problems... and Phi was a dick to him... and they were playing lars and drag... Wait a minute"

[@Pwnr145]

Does anyone know why the reupload?

[@suvid9490]

@@Pwnr145yeah that’s what I’m windering

[@Adderflail]

Less shit talk ​@@Pwnr145

[@manofchicken1455]

Glad the video is back up. You being thoughtful about their feelings is a breath of fresh air. You deserve all the growth you've received for not just being a pillar for the Tekken community but for the FGC as a whole!

[@Posdrums3]

it's cool you noticed what you were doing with the teasing and tried to correct it in the moment, and mentioned it in the intro

[@lt_johnmcclane]

He’s too nice of a guy to play around like he’s aris

[@Posdrums3]

@@lt_johnmcclane Not just nice, but mature and holds himself accountable. Respect!

[@SouthernEngineering24]

This kind of recognition and the immediate attempt to correct it is why I will always support phidx. Most if not all streamers would just ride the lul train into the ground yet he realized after a few mins how messed up it was and pulled himself out of it.

[@soJellyman]

Twitch chat acting like they've never asked a stupid question lmao

[@mariocruz591]

There's one thing on asking ONE stupid question and another one who is asking MULTIPLE stupid questions

[@mariocruz591]

Like Phidx was trying to say, u need to ask the right question for someone to understand and help you priperly

[@Taiwainui-qw3xb]

​@@mariocruz591Everyone in twicth chat has asked multiple stupid question at one point.

[@cartmansnipples]

Thats like the main function of being a twitch chatter 😂

[@csabanagy7898]

They mostly don't, because their ego would be crushed then, so they never learn...

[@ADukesJustice]

2:51 Felt like I was watching Avoiding the Puddle for a second

[@teero121]

lmao

[@CA_Shake]

Now that he's the go-to teacher for tekken 8, he's getting all the stoned chatters that Aris would normally get from playing 7 lmao

[@ADukesJustice]

@@CA_Shake Lol very true

[@_Jay_Maker_]

Hey, alright.

[@neonfatum]

Chat also gave AtP chat vibes. Very cringe and unfunny.

[@pedroscoponi4905]

The thing about being positive, welcoming and helpful is that it's not always the natural response in the spur of the moment, specially if you're already stressed. It's why knowing how to apologise and make ammends is such a valuable skill to have. Love to see both you and the chatter turn that into a positive situation in the end!

[@spironan]

Let's get this going again! I know phi struggled to reupload this but I think the underlying message is good

[@hydra2019]

? It was reuploaded? It was here b4?

[@mattswain552]

0:33 Exactly. As much as I can understand the perspective in the moment of roasting him, especially mid-game (and a stressful game at that) and mid-stream, at the end of the day it's a person on the other side of the screen who's genuinely trying to learn by asking a question. There's no harm in saying that you'll come back to that person after the fight and answer them then. You can even grill them a little bit for asking a question in the right way, but that's way better than straight up roasting or shooting them on the spot. It's nice to see you correct this mentality and it's one of the reasons I really enjoy your content, man: humble and analytic are major strengths for your channel. As ever, thanks for the upload! Great for my own learning, too.

[@shahs1221]

Phi is genuinely such a nice dude omg. The community is blessed to have you ❤

[@sakulyah]

This video is weirdly helpful in ascertaining the mindset you need to improve on certain situations. I should really start putting these in a bookmarks folder or something...

[@aarondelacruz5019]

As someone who is thinking of entering the world of Tekken as a beginner in fighting games, it makes me glad to know your view in teaching newbies. You are a real one. 💯

[@TheTyroofToriyama]

I heard a decent point made that it’s hard to help advanced intermediate players on general advice. Their flaws are all really unique and even when watching their matches, no one can adapt for them or always be there to point out all answers. Even with perfect tech, they still have to read their opponent, which only they can do

[@pleaseno326]

"Remember where you came from." 💀💀💀

[@pedroscoponi4905]

And he's so right, we've all been the dumb twitch chatter of the day before 🤡

[@MDobs-ko8bp]

I don't think you get the irony of it all......

[@garymichalles8383]

He's not wrong. Also great username and profile pic lmao

[@phenom504]

Phidx: “I don’t think making fun of someone who wants to learn is a good vibe.” Also Phidx: “I kinda roasted him a bit” 😂😂

[@CG1337Noob]

PhiDx quickly owning up and apologizing to someone who was gaslit trying to learn (even if they didn't provide the best info initially) is something to be appreciated / respected

[@TOKYO_SLIME]

Just hit Kishin last night. One of the biggest things that helps me is taking my time and being deliberate with my moves. Watching what the opponent is doing and using my characters tools to work around what they’re doing. I still get hit with cheese now and then, but with enough practice, I’ll be able to deal with cheese a bit better.

[@kanoball3391]

Thanks ill try this ive been stuck in mighty ruler for the past weei

[@knightmareGS]

When i first got into tekken (tekken 7) my buddy played king and i kept eating his shining wizard. He eventually stood up and screamed at me to fucking duck or break the throw. Will never forget that moment and will always stick with me. Most people that are willing to help you are going to rib you from time to time but its all in the fun of learning. PS: I can break shining wizard now. =)

[@FreeMovies01]

I never break shining wizard but it looks cool so idc

[@garymichalles8383]

​@@FreeMovies01 It only looks cool when you're the King doing it. When eating it, I wanna delete King from the game

[@tongpoo8985]

​@@FreeMovies01it looks even cooler when you break it imo. Just press 1+2

[@FreeMovies01]

@@tongpoo8985 thx now, I can quit copium

[@MultiAwesomered]

I think i agree with the majority when i say, you turned the whole interaction around. You were cruel at first, but your presence in the moment and eventual humility worked for the good.

[@Squeeze86]

Solid video and approach dude. I seriously like your delivery and explanation and generally your vibe. Always easy to laugh at newcomers but helping and spreading knowledge is always the right answer. Nicely done dude ✊🏽

[@SemiAI-.-]

I’m sure this guy learned to become much more self sufficient after this public roasting lol.

[@EnvyMizuhashi]

To reiterate what I said last time: Step 1 is admitting you have a problem. Step 1.5 is knowing what the problem _is._

[@ASlopedRoof]

if your +8 ur opponent cant do cr@p unless your using slow enough moves, like 14f+ I dont have t8 so but in previous games the first evasion frame from sidestep activates in 6f, sidewalk in 8f, backdash in 7, moving foward and extending hitbox in 4 frames, low crush usually at 9f and high crush usually at 4, duck and low parry at 1f, and the fastest parries at 2f. Those are how many frames your opponent needs to perform an action, doing a correct frame trap needs to take into account, or at least testing every option against a mixup, but knowing the height of the move, the tracking of the move, and comparing those to how many frames your opponent needs to beat that move, can be done in match instantly by pros or anyone, because guess what, knowing those numbers by heart, for years, gets pretty repetitive.

[@requiem9167]

Video is the definition of “feeding a man a fish vs teaching them how to fish” nicely done

[@Rama-VI]

The intro is literally why I never ask questions in chat lmaooo

[@DiegoXRA]

Just don't ask for solution without properly explaining the problem. Sounds like a simple and reasonable thing to understand

[@Rama-VI]

@@DiegoXRA also have to take into consideration new players have no idea what’s going on that may have been the best way he could explain it

[@DiegoXRA]

@@Rama-VI Yes you are right. But this is where people should at least try to put an effort to understand the problem instead directly asking for a solution to someone else . That was the case here . The guy clearly didn't put the bare amount of effort to know what move he or Lars player used before asking the question .

[@Rama-VI]

@@DiegoXRA I agree

[@shinobuu__]

tbf, as a new player, going into the movelist of someone you dont play can be very intimidating as there are like 90+ moves and finding the one that hit you could be overwhelming for them. @@DiegoXRA

[@travishurst2242]

You're such a helpful bully, phiDX 😂❤ It's like the Key and Peele skit with the super introspective bully

[@gamingjustfornaught6765]

What i think happened was Drag's 2,1 is getting high crushed by the uf+3

[@Zaboutine]

I like how Phi is trying to navigate his success, being in a spotlight gives you a lot of backslash and responsibilities and instead of "faking" the geniune approach I appreciate him being himself and roasting people here and there but always making a point of showing that nothing is ill intended by spending extra time to fix the situation and give it a learning experience for him and his audience. As a creator myself I struggle sometimes with that and I have a lot of respect for it.

[@wojtekgr87]

Play tekken since 1995. I am red rank. I enjoy easy and relaxing play. Higher you go harder it gets. Have fun guys

[@thoraero]

I know the feeling 😂😄😂

[@imotje]

this honestly felt like watching a guy roast his little brother to have him preform better from my point of view. Glad the dude has a chin of steel and took it well and used the feedback to improve. Respect to both of you guys

[@juanwique]

2:50 the ghost of aris really possessed phi for a moment lmaooo

[@archides2778]

I respect what you did and said PhiDX. And you touched on an important point later - you were on the vergef of losing when the question came in. Anyone who interacts with people. There is a real effect that fight stress and losing has on the immediate mood. Once the match was out of your head you did a respectable job helping him out.

[@KKFWB]

you know what phi? imma watch it again you deserve it

[@imidesu]

Hey Phi, I commented on your original video and criticized how you handled it when you were in the middle of the match. I know Tekken 8 can be really stressful, and having to handle a question badly elaborated is pretty hard. Maybe just go back to the question after the match if it's too vague, I don't know. I love your content, and I know you're a nice guy and people makes mistakes. Had my question answered right away when I asked you something in your chat. It's nice that you reuploaded the video with the good parts, I do believe the message is great. Keep up the good content!

[@pampamtamtam4001]

I love the common decency you showed here, it's not encouraged on the internet enough. Building up the community instead of putting people down feels a whole lot better. I really respect how you handled this!

[@kinginthenorth1437]

I think even if you aren't hyper focused on your rank; when asking a stranger for help it's a good reference point to provide so that they have an idea of where you're at and can give appropriate advice.

[@duckman6403]

stayed for the slickiru glowup lets go slickiru! o7

[@FlokiTech]

Crazy how we considerd someone that is mighty ruler a new player. also crazy how somone can get that rank without knowing the very basics of tekken

[@NT_01]

Roast - Inhale - Repeat, baby 😂 Glad to see my guy Slick got to learn something new and ranked up and how you explained it to demo your frames in practice mode was awesome.

[@El-Burrito]

I liked the original video, didn't realise it had been taken down

[@dannyrpt]

Why was it even taken down? This video is pretty good

[@D3v1ance]

More brutal on the guy.

[@NYG5]

Frame traps to dictate situations and punishment gets you from greens to reds. Alternating your timing to be unpredictable, recognizing opponent's tendencies, and keeping your spacing tight/reducing whiffs gets you beyond.

[@alloutofgum1]

I appreciate you bringing this video back. I thought you handled yourself very well on stream and I think being clear/direct when communicating (especially with a streamer) is something the community can get a lot better at and it's a topic not disscussed enough.

[@baronwest]

On one hand, it was easier to learn Tekken during the T3/TTT1 era because the game was less complex. However since TTT2 a lot of new players want to be spoonfed information without having to lab themselves, or as Aris calls it, "having someone else do your homework". This is a game where you can literally take control of your own replay, and people are not taking advantage of that feature...but in their defense the game doesn't actually teach you this.

[@Harveeee]

Oh, it's back! Lol

[@bozcy8791]

2:52 Beautiful aris energy

[@phenomic]

14:40 @PhiDX From the viewpoint of being a new player myself, and having asked a lot of question in your channel as well I really appreciate you, your videos, and your adives a lot. From the viewpoint as a twitchviewer though, I feel like you should allow yourself to not answer question while you are in a match, you don´t need to ignore them, just say "ask again after the match". Sorry if that sounds like I´m telling you what to do, I do have a bit of a language barrier (german native). All I´m trying to say is I bet a most people would understand and wait a bit, and you wouldn´t have to stress yourself out in your matches. Love your streams, love your videos.

[@mastergrapes]

im so grateful for your help phidx. before i watched your channel i was stuck at initiate but after watching the videos i improved greatly. im proud to say you helped me become the first god of destruction kuma on arcade quest. thank you friend ❤

[@shinobuu__]

seeing the entire chat get on someone new to the game and make fun of them to the point of him almost leaving is probably why the FGC is so small. One day they will understand that beng a dick to new players is not the move, especially coming from twitch chat where 90% of them are just as shit as the new player

[@KingslayerSenpai]

Dont let the reupload distract you form the fact that this is still PhiDX in his Aris Arc

[@victorycalls4179]

Dude frame trapped your entire first game with that question 😂

[@Grozdor]

Love the video, very informative while being hilarious. Glad you reupload this 🤗❤

[@isshintheguy4172]

I'm positively suprised at how much consideration you've put for this one chatter. Like you said, any other streamer in your place would've mocked him or insta-banned him.

[@zombieFeet_us]

Good on you for reuploading. Fuck the haters this is important content for the lower ranked players to see and understand.

[@jburga6637]

That wasn't a roast that was a polite scolding

[@RayGoSan]

9:04 I'm sorry to jump in here after all this time. This video just came across my feed. I 100% agree every player has the tools to lab and learn, and probably don't know how to use those tools correctly. This has happened to me and probably too many others. I know where I come from and I'm grateful for having pros that help us casuals understand the game better

[@TriceratopsUnicorn]

Glad you re uploaded this, it was a very informative video

[@MrIceio]

Having to hit the inhaler is hilarious

[@danhurikan]

Love your videos, while there's lot of repeated stuff it doesn't hurt and there is always a new thing to learn (character specific at the very least) and you always choose new angles. Keep it up, hope your numbers keep improving, happy you are getting the attention you deserve!

[@robertharris1076]

I got the low and mid/high parrys on lock in practice and training. Figures out alot of punishes and got better at sidestepping too in training. Very useful

[@crazyman1905]

"Goes to AOP" after Phi started banning was hilarious

[@dizzygunner]

I skipped to the end because i seen the original upload, thought Phi was a bit harsh, but seems he's took the criticism on board, which is nice to see.

[@daronofennell3474]

Yeah it might have been rough but you are the coolest and most informative fighting game content creator

[@Carlisho]

This had a very wholesome ending, love to see it 😌

[@Zachary_Sweis]

GGs, I was the Dragonov WR2.

[@valocrazy]

Petition to save punishment options in practice mode 😢

[@BlackJustice2637]

YES! I hate reapplying them, especially when im labbing King, the monster with 200 moves (cool character tho)

[@Giraffinator]

I think a good takeaway from this is to not try too much to fix a problem when you're frustrated. Come back later with a clear head and you look at your issues with with a more objective perspective.

[@burnpisces7733]

This video has serious Aris vibes. I’m here for it.

[@minister_godz8868]

Came from rdc stream tryna see you coach them soon

[@pewpew3528]

doing 1 jabs, b4,2,1 and db3+4 got me a 38 winstreak with drag lmao

[@jakobs9453]

8:17 "GOES TO AOP" lmaooo

[@phenomic]

07:14 Margnus Carlsen: "Hold my beer"

[@larrytate1657]

Tenryu, Kazuya myself. Nearing mighty ruler. I lose 400 points playing someone who is two ranks higher than me(who should usually win) but then I play someone two ranks lower than me and only win 200 points. No wonder the people two ranks lower never won run a rematch when they lose, they’re losing 400 on a match that they’re expected to most likely lose.

[@Mellophenomenal]

Glad you put the video back up! I appreciate you not just ignoring the question and/or roasting him, but roasting him and then giving really good feedback on how to ask better questions *and* answering his original question! Your videos have helped me a lot and this video is no exception

[@joealestra]

Glad for the reupload. Couldn’t make it through the original, was a bit too rough on mans

[@SemiAI-.-]

Was the original even worse?! 😂 my man had to change his name and go into hiding after that one lol.

[@joealestra]

@@SemiAI-.- haha Phi was rough on buddy for sure at first but I like the message highlighted in the reupload, we don't want to make fun of people for trying to learn and Tekken can be super overwhelming at first

[@icehousemuzik]

12:45 learned a new word here. Thanks. #Cathartic

[@kinginthenorth1437]

It would be cool if more streamers/KZbinrs would show their own labbing. There is so much content where we can see how people play the game but it's so much harder to find insight into how to properly learn the game.

[@IANDURBECK]

Being stuck in red ranks means your fundamentals are still lacking. Train your character, learn your tools, try them online, thats enough for red rank. Learn what are the generic tools, how do you punish them, work on defense, grab breaks and side stepping, that's already purple rank territory. Now comes the hard part. Learn each character's match ups and here is where the real game begins.

[@OTVVods]

Let's go!! New Upload! :D

[@countlessbathory1485]

PhiDX is one of the goats. Love the T8 content.

[@BeneBang]

So Phidx is a bully…😢 It’s hard to see your goat fell off

[@Spideyfan562]

Do you guys have any advice to help with the mentality to stop choking games? I feel like it happens to me all the time I go up 2-0 and then all of a sudden final round and I lose. Currently stuck in orange rank with Jin and idk what I’m doing wrong tbh. I know my combos need work but sometimes I feel like I can’t even hit a button, my punishes are ok I know I need better work with it. I probably just need a break from Tekken overall tbh I got super frustrated tonight 😅 I know losing is part of the process but man it’s a painful road. P.S. I come from Street Fighter so I understand the transition is a hard one and it takes time.

[@evanjeun3910]

hey phidx this is the king player that played you idk it was you ggs man

[@piglink10]

the inhaler made me cry hhahaha

[@Boyzby]

No game ever teaches you how to use training mode, so most people just use it to get combos down and that's it. I play SF6 and there are so many tabs and options, I don't even know where to find things sometimes-it's a mess. I think the worst thing, which is kinda demonstrated in this video, is that you probably don't know a character, so you can't even replicate what they did, or maybe they're DLC so you don't even have the option to lab. This is why the ability to play during a replay is so brilliant and I hope it becomes a common feature in games and is added in SF6.

[@thomasschmidt1452]

At least it was just an execution problem. My character frame traps don't work even on hit - u can SSR and guard crouching, it will beat 80% of my option while the 20% left are lauchpunishable.

[@jandipopo_art2012]

I broke the red ranks but im a hard stuck mighty ruler now because of knowledge checks. All the characters in that rank are rare menaces, Leo, Yoshi, Hwoarang, Nina. Characters that are strong because you don't know how to respond.

[@Ben-uc9xn]

I dont lab too much but if those characters give you some trouble then punishment training is good! It’s not going to give you practice on avoiding getting hit by their panic moves… but at least you’ll see their punishable strings/moves

[@NotaFrom99]

Ah so this is the full version of that red Drag who got owned because he wasn’t asking the right question during a ranked match

[@josephmarodis7627]

You're a great teacher. Sorry you had to appologize so hard. Keep up the good work.

[@ninjagrime4287]

Ayy this video back up. It’s so good.

[@ExpiredRubber]

Lmaaoo the typical King experience

[@altmair9936]

Hello PhiDX. I want to say thank you for your videos, they really motivate me to study Tekken 8. I would like to ask the following, as I still don't understand some nuances. I noticed that inputs in 8 have changed slightly. I play on an Xbox controller. In 7, I could easily do a hopkick from crouch, now with Jun I can't even press 1+2 on ws and end up doing regular 1+2. I would like to ask, how can I understand how controls work in 8 in general, because even when I input correctly, I can't perform the desired move and can't figure out what's wrong. Understanding this is very important, as the character has many powerful options and I want to quickly learn how to transition from neutral to crouch and perform the necessary move. I would be very grateful if you could take the time to explain the moment of pressing different movements, because even playing with friends and acquaintances, there are often cases when there is no understanding why a string didn't work correctly or something similar. Me, like many inexperienced players, will be very thankful to you. Thank you for your content and inspiration to strive for more.

[@Playerways]

Thats so light if u consider that roasting. Ur cool bro

[@kendallmarin1010]

That's what he needed to push through. ( I'll show them who's dumb)

[@ItsJpex]

Surely this isn't my Phi video for the day 🤔

[@MastaBroshiX]

Soon ill pay off the mortgage i took on in red ranks, its been cozy but my neighbours keep disappearing

[@suto9233]

Phi a better man than. I'm simply not a teacher

[@PabelekPL]

The most polite roast ever 😂

[@cairax23]

It wasn't as polite in the original upload lmaooo but I understand, he was playing an intense match while trying to answer the question. Love Phidx being very apologetic here tho, massice grace coming from a streamer ❤

[@aqueelkadri8371]

This is probably the most important semi beginner/intermediate video for Tekken 8 that there is. A practical example of how to use the beautiful tools this game provides to encourage self learning and improvement. I wish it was titled a little more......"generically" so that it appealed to a wider audience. Something along the lines of, "You don't need help to improve at Tekken 8" or something

[@alan133]

Well you just fought a Leo. Getting frustrated is reasonable.

[@steel_azul2508]

Hated the bullying but at least the guy learned something lol