Knee has solved Tekken 8.

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PhiDX

PhiDX

Күн бұрын

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@ghiidra__
@ghiidra__ Ай бұрын
Knee’s bryan looks like the spiked boots guy from spongebob movie
@maxwalton7044
@maxwalton7044 Ай бұрын
Dennis
@arhlein7872
@arhlein7872 Ай бұрын
Dennis
@GetPlanked-x8h
@GetPlanked-x8h Ай бұрын
Dennis
@ute9916
@ute9916 Ай бұрын
Dennis
@shaun6288
@shaun6288 Ай бұрын
Dennis
@Raspberryspy
@Raspberryspy Ай бұрын
Every tekken installment is like: First half - Players hate it, wants to back to previous Tekken title Latter half - Greatest Tekken of all time, waits the next Tekken title 😂
@LudenTr
@LudenTr Ай бұрын
@@Raspberryspy they usually fix the issues in the latter half. say what you will about the devs, they genuinely do take feedback into consideration and try to apply to the game they're working on. The Problem is that they are refusing to balance the game now.
@myriadheartss
@myriadheartss Ай бұрын
@@LudenTr because TWT was in full swing, it's not plausible to completely shake up the game during a pro tour
@matitone
@matitone Ай бұрын
because the game becomes better in the second half you haven't thought of that
@SlCKNESS_
@SlCKNESS_ Ай бұрын
Tekken 7 wasn't like that at all. The more it went on the more people disliked it and most people actually loved it in the beginning.
@RandomDPAP
@RandomDPAP Ай бұрын
​@@myriadheartssThis is easily solvable by running tournaments using older patches. Almost every esport title does this, why can't BNE do it?
@brennanstewart624
@brennanstewart624 Ай бұрын
Knee's adaptivity and defensiveness prevailing is so cool to watch! Hopefully we see him place more often in major tournaments, would love to have an underdog use Bryan.
@StayFr0sty
@StayFr0sty Ай бұрын
wait what do you mean an underdog? you're saying knee is an underdog?
@TenkenAshura
@TenkenAshura Ай бұрын
He doesn’t necessarily have to be calling knee an underdog because his skill level on the contrary he chooses the underdog position by his choice of Bryan in tournament against the crazy more tekken 8. Characters
@myriadheartss
@myriadheartss Ай бұрын
neither knee (a top tier player) or bryan (an arguably top 10 character) are underdogs in anyway.
@El-Burrito
@El-Burrito Ай бұрын
Knee is my underdog. Bryan is my underdog. 🗣️
@brennanstewart624
@brennanstewart624 Ай бұрын
No disrespect to Knee, quite the contrary I think his playstyle requires a keen sense, awareness, and a calm mind. He encapsulates, in my mind, my "ideal" Tekken playstyle.
@danielsteffee7957
@danielsteffee7957 Ай бұрын
Someone on Reddit did an analysis of Tekken 8's stage randomness and found it to be perfectly random. It's a common psychological error we humans make: We notice when coincidental things happen (like the same stage randoming two or three times in a row) and remember them far more than we remember other occurrences, thus thinking they happen at a higher rate than they actually do.
@kinko143
@kinko143 Ай бұрын
Correlation and causation
@benlong495
@benlong495 29 күн бұрын
I’ve done my own anecdotal stuff. Everything is consistent but I have landed on midnight siege almost 7% more than any other stage, and Gemanji Temple 0 times online lol
@LucificNight
@LucificNight 29 күн бұрын
Yeah, players use "Evenness" as a heuristic for "Randomness". it's the reason why a lot of games have hidden mechanisms to smooth things out, such as "no two of the same stage in a row" or "stages which haven't come up in a long time have higher priority". Devs usually start with actual random. They then realise that "feeling random" is usually better than "actually random".
@Jacev_
@Jacev_ Ай бұрын
Hey dude, I really want to thank you for all of the valuable insight, analyses, coaching videos that you put up on KZbin. Your videos have single-handedly led to a massive shift in the way that I approached Tekken to the point that I am now sitting at 440k prowess. If I ever decide to compete professionally, I am absolutely for sure going to be paying to have you in my corner dude. The way you dissect Tekken is practically second to none.
@IAmTheWei00
@IAmTheWei00 Ай бұрын
Simp.
@whoajaco
@whoajaco Ай бұрын
@@IAmTheWei00 let bro be appreciative. You are not as cool as you think you are
@IAmTheWei00
@IAmTheWei00 Ай бұрын
@@whoajaco Saying that I think I'm cool is an assumption. How about you let me say what I want to say in a democratic comment's section?
@rdDolphinX
@rdDolphinX Ай бұрын
The free marketplace of ideas in action, everybody​@@IAmTheWei00
@ShadowReapZz1377
@ShadowReapZz1377 Ай бұрын
@@IAmTheWei00you look dumb
@glothelion
@glothelion Ай бұрын
I feel like Knee just needed to embrace the heat system. He seemed like he was resistant in the beginning.
@Doflaminguard
@Doflaminguard Ай бұрын
Its an unnecessary addition copying SF.
@ControlShifty
@ControlShifty Ай бұрын
​@@DoflaminguardThe mechanic was in development before SF6 came out. Tekken 7 had issues with slower and less agressive games that took a while towards the end, they created a new mechanic in 8 to "fix" that and also by removing infinite stages.
@enjoysuon
@enjoysuon 25 күн бұрын
its more an "adapt or die" situation
@ojsojs6004
@ojsojs6004 23 күн бұрын
Knee actually has not solved it. He needs to be consistent. The previous 2 ATL tournaments, he got eliminated early
@lazytommy0
@lazytommy0 Ай бұрын
gameplay breakdown commentary has been the most useful thing in learning tekken. nothing else does the job quite as well, i have found.
@NicoSleepyLeen
@NicoSleepyLeen Ай бұрын
When the game came out, a lot of people started complaining, some made sense, some didn't The thing i realized was that most were mad they had to learn new things and that they didn't have their special status of playing the same game for 7 years, starting from 0 felt unfair for them
@TKMotoRolA_RazR
@TKMotoRolA_RazR Ай бұрын
damn.... facts...
@Kjernekar
@Kjernekar Ай бұрын
Eh, the game is boring to watch with hom it is. Everyone looks like the same player, and half the match are cutscenes.
@iura_nagami
@iura_nagami Ай бұрын
​@@Kjernekar😕
@reecerox2
@reecerox2 Ай бұрын
To those people I say get over it. It's the mark of a champion to adapt and overcome.
@AllThingsAction
@AllThingsAction Ай бұрын
I'm sure some felt this way, but as a longtime player this feels like a completely different kind of game. And when you introduce a lot of the new mechanics, some characters are just going to benefit way more than others. I don't blame anyone for being frustrated with having to adapt to mechanics that the absence of made them like the series in the first place. That being said, I am happy to see players adapting and the community growing. That growth is undoubtedly due to the new mechanics. I'd rather deal with a lot of the new things then not have anyone to play with, because no new players will play the game.
@Sandberry
@Sandberry Ай бұрын
I don't think it's intentional, but it's nice to hear some analysis of Eddy's play style in a way that isn't just, for lack of a better term, "antagonistic". Like even here the video's all about Knee and how he wants to play against his opponents but you did go into some small detail about how Eddy is played ideally and I appreciate that.
@aomafura3374
@aomafura3374 Ай бұрын
True learning about eddy in a positive showcase made me want to fight him and try out what I got from here
@Hone_mor2525
@Hone_mor2525 Ай бұрын
THIS DUDE'S DOIN STRINGS
@FollowTheDamnTrain0
@FollowTheDamnTrain0 Ай бұрын
THIS DUDE DID A 10 HIT COMBO
@Kenpachi_White707
@Kenpachi_White707 Ай бұрын
Was so easy to block before, people stopped using them.
@aoneko6813
@aoneko6813 2 күн бұрын
Thought of this immediately too 😂😂 it's in our collective conciousness as the top 1 scrub quote now 🤣
@_illtal
@_illtal Ай бұрын
Tekken 5 Knee was VERY aggressive.
@soju4547
@soju4547 Ай бұрын
Can't spell Tekken without "KNEE".
@danhonorem
@danhonorem Ай бұрын
Damn...
@JDarkAngeI
@JDarkAngeI Ай бұрын
Lmao that's not how the saying works, but sure 😅😅
@Gazz.z
@Gazz.z Ай бұрын
Tekneeken
@EggscellentTree
@EggscellentTree Ай бұрын
​@@JDarkAngeI T E 3 K 1 K E 4 N 2
@Justlookingaround19
@Justlookingaround19 Ай бұрын
Teknee?
@Derin_XXVII
@Derin_XXVII Ай бұрын
Man, I love your videos. They mean so much to me. I don't really have any friends that play Tekken, so watching your videos is like sharing one of my favourite games with a cool community. Thanks a bunch for the insight and knowledge. Your hard work doesn't go unnoticed, and it is very much appreciated.
@unidentified4122
@unidentified4122 Ай бұрын
I'm honestly cool with the longer videos, I like getting into the nitty gritty especially sense tekken is such a dense game
@IanLEAU
@IanLEAU Ай бұрын
It's the same with Tekken 7, he had to go through teething issues with the game and it took him a year to really grasp the game's mechanics.
@jon630
@jon630 Ай бұрын
I feel like people don't talk about the effects of grey health enough. You only get it on block or on launch, not vs pokes. So it's like the game incentivizes you to take big risks because if you get launched, you can potentially get 30-60% of the hp back later. This also specifically buffs jumping moves because float combos are usually 100% recoverable damage.
@swolsauce9923
@swolsauce9923 24 күн бұрын
I just now started realizing this and it changed my approach. I use orbital a lot more when im being pressured because I know if I get floated then in a way it’s like I get out of the pressure to get another chance since the damage scales and I can recover that health back, especially if I manage to hit them with a heat engager after
@sebbbi2
@sebbbi2 Ай бұрын
Lots of people complain that devs are not listening. They have done lots of defensive balance adjustments based on player feedback. Sidestepping alone got these buffs: command throws are linear, high power crush heat engagers are linear, heat burst is linear, all heat smashes are weak to sidestep to one direction. Also they removed pushback from demon paws and high power crushes (-9 next to opponent). CH throws are easier to break, launcher throws are i14. Blocked heat engager on wall is +5 (instead of wall crush). The roster is also more balanced than ever. Drag just got nerfs. More Drag nerfs coming in next patch. Nina and Yoshi also got nerfs. Alisa nefs also coming. They also nerfed too strong Lili and Ling 50/50s earlier. Top 8 results seems heathly. No single characters dominates (except Dragunov a bit, but even that’s debatable in latest tournaments and these two batches of latest nerfs will solve that for good).
@TKMotoRolA_RazR
@TKMotoRolA_RazR Ай бұрын
you're correct. top 8s are usually a good balance of characters. dragunov is only in top 8 if ulsan, nobi, or atif are at the tournament. jdcr is struggling to make dragunov work for him
@thmistrapillay1811
@thmistrapillay1811 Ай бұрын
Like the breakdown 👏
@SquashMelendez
@SquashMelendez Ай бұрын
But command throws are homing
@crystaleater2581
@crystaleater2581 Ай бұрын
​@@SquashMelendez only standard throws like 1+3 or 2+4 are homing and a few stance throws. all command throws whether that be giant swing or stone head are not homing
@SquashMelendez
@SquashMelendez Ай бұрын
@@crystaleater2581 thank u for clarifying this for me.
@sinosleep007
@sinosleep007 21 күн бұрын
I just came here to say Brian is hype as fuck, and I'm super happy Knee is playing him.
@brennanstewart624
@brennanstewart624 Ай бұрын
I'm not gonna lie, despite Tekken 8 being a game I get self-conscious about my gameplay. Like a type of impostor syndrome whenever I hear that Tekken 8 is scrubby and requires no skill. It's reassuring as a new player to hear that it happens with every game lol. Thanks for the vid Phi!
@skullmastermasterofskulls3843
@skullmastermasterofskulls3843 Ай бұрын
Not only does this happen with every Tekken game, it happens with every fighting game in general. It's a cycle as old as time itself, with plenty of examples of people calling Street Fighter 4 "baby mode SF." It is never true for a bunch of reasons and you should always focus on improving the exquisite set of skills that fighting games require instead of taking Twitter people seriously. Good luck!
@genesishandboards
@genesishandboards Ай бұрын
I've been playing tekken since tekken 2 and it happens EVERY new release 😂 I used to be one of the ones crying about it but after years I've learned to just adapt to the new game. Glad to have you enjoy your journey!
@Gabi24492
@Gabi24492 Ай бұрын
To the game, to the character you play, to whatever. People gonna bitch. Ignore the haters and do your thing
@LegendaryPlank
@LegendaryPlank 22 күн бұрын
Of course it takes skill. But we can't pretend we haven't all had those rounds where you dumpster someone/get dumpstered almost entirely with mechanics rather than genuine play.
@genesishandboards
@genesishandboards 18 күн бұрын
@@LegendaryPlank this is true I've been trashed by mechanics alone more than I like to admit haha
@via_negativa6183
@via_negativa6183 Ай бұрын
Yeah I said this from the beginning. Every new tekken game comes out the pros all cry for the first year that's it's bad until they adjust to the new design. I've been seeing this happen since tekken 6
@LegendaryPlank
@LegendaryPlank 22 күн бұрын
Well, what happened with the last 3 tekkens is they launched, they sucked, they got a huge update (DR/BR/FR) then were good.
@AdrianGuillen-x4h
@AdrianGuillen-x4h 22 күн бұрын
I genuinely feel like this guy's videos are gonna raise the overall level of play in the tekken community.
@Unknown-el1jy
@Unknown-el1jy Ай бұрын
9:42 i think he did jet upper cuz the wall carry might be better for the jet upper, but wr1 always hits and has pretty good wall carry too and get like 110 dmg if u get wall, the wr1 combo is wr1 qcf3,4 b2,4 dash uf3+4 b2,1 into either 2,1 to get the wall or 3+4 for max dmg without wall and possibly for activating more wall carry with the heat dash if u hold forward
@TKMotoRolA_RazR
@TKMotoRolA_RazR Ай бұрын
shout out to phydx for digging up the recepts. this is a common thing when new fgs come out
@Kenkyou_Nogata
@Kenkyou_Nogata Ай бұрын
Appreciate the breakdown and lessons as always. Knee plays Bryan in a very effective almost perfect way (playstyle for Bryan). I let go of Bryan for Lee, despite linearity on both Lee is better because of his faster recovery. Stepping Bryan is free damage. However watching how he plays with patience looking for and forcing his opponents to make a mistake before enforcing his offense changed my whole perspective. Perhaps it is how I should pilot my characters too as a defensive player.
@Dead-Eyed-Man
@Dead-Eyed-Man Ай бұрын
It always confused me how much ppl claim “movement is dead”. Even tho sidestep is extremely buffed in this game, making it highlight 3d.
@LegendaryPlank
@LegendaryPlank 22 күн бұрын
Buffed compared to 7 but that's a really low bar.
@Saeed-j8t
@Saeed-j8t Ай бұрын
bro, you are the best tekken 8 content creator with your analysis from players and tournaments perspective, i couldnt find time to play tekken 8 but i really enjoy watching all trailers and twt tournaments of 2024, thanks alot phidx, keep up uploading your informative and helpful insights.. respect and appreciation from saudi arabia
@TheWizardofMNT
@TheWizardofMNT 27 күн бұрын
Knee's patience and defense in this game is highly admirable. It shows that defense is still just as important if not more than ever, even though aggressiveness is the name of the game now.
@pian-0g445
@pian-0g445 26 күн бұрын
Because the offence is so much stronger in 8, it makes the skill needed for defence even more important as well. You have to be active defensively and offensively all the time now (complete 180 from 7 where there was that heavy neutral style).
@hairitisbarbershop
@hairitisbarbershop 15 күн бұрын
Truly enjoyed this breakdown! Great JOB!
@munki9820
@munki9820 Ай бұрын
thank you for working so hard to make it a shorter format, I actually much prefer the shorter videos so this is much appreciated!
@derp3870
@derp3870 Ай бұрын
Knee has a unique skillset in learning new tekken games at a tournament level. It's really cool to see him take his time learning and find unique ways to be better than everybody.
@LukewarmHoliday
@LukewarmHoliday Ай бұрын
I tried watching some other knee match analysis that really only involved putting down the opponents character, so explaining situations and how he's making sidestep reads based off assumptions the other player is going to try to be plus really helps explain the decision making choices I should be looking to imitate and exploit. Even with all the best intentions and knowlege, other people trying to describe eddy trying to be plus as a "stupid tekken 8 thing" makes me think at some point people shouldn't be trying to do that, and thus I shouldn't be looking out for the obvious strong options. Total mindset inversion.
@LukewarmHoliday
@LukewarmHoliday Ай бұрын
The situation where Bryan uses db3 to be -1 into the heatsmash to enforce his lows is very similar how Nightmare in soul calibur 6 had to enforce his low game at certain points by doing similar 2k into enhanced 6b that was easily sidestep punished. Even if your opponent waits and sidesteps, its valuable information that if you use more lows they will not be challenged and you can slow the pace of the match. Wheras if they try to take their turn they lose 30-40% of their health bar.
@lilvermi11ion
@lilvermi11ion Ай бұрын
Really appreciate the segment on Eddy's flowcharts and counters. Would love to know more information like this as a newcomer to Tekken
@shuaibseedat9066
@shuaibseedat9066 Ай бұрын
Knee is just phenomenal in quick thinking and patience. Legendary ❤
@роматарасов-о8л
@роматарасов-о8л Ай бұрын
i like this video format with more description of certiain moments
@Straaaayyyy
@Straaaayyyy Ай бұрын
Knee is true defensive warrior in a world of tekken 8 spam
@ilovetubing44
@ilovetubing44 27 күн бұрын
Phenomenal video! Thanks, PhiDX!
@MediocrityAtItsBest
@MediocrityAtItsBest Ай бұрын
Very good video, Phi! Thanks for that info on that Eddy string at the end.
@marcoliviertoure1676
@marcoliviertoure1676 Ай бұрын
Excellent analysis! Thanks!
@isshintheguy4172
@isshintheguy4172 Ай бұрын
I wish the opposing player hurtbox wouldnt just disappear whenever they wallsplat in any other way than on their back standing up. Is there a reason its balanced this harshly?
@kylelogan5013
@kylelogan5013 29 күн бұрын
"Knee is alot my comfortable putting out" Phidx 2024
@DarkAsylum25
@DarkAsylum25 Ай бұрын
Bryan should be able to down ws1 to punish that low I never had a problem with it.. he probably did jet upper because it could do more damage
@derekreynolds8407
@derekreynolds8407 Ай бұрын
He probably was catching the low with his kbd and having to jet upper because he already crouch canceled with his natural movement
@ShaunInce123
@ShaunInce123 Ай бұрын
It was only a matter of time before Knee would get the hang of Tekken 8. It wasn't a smooth start, but he came into his own at the end of this tour season, going off of his run at TGU and Afreeca Tekken League.
@zackbrubaker4459
@zackbrubaker4459 Ай бұрын
i've been learning bryan hes so fun and knee has been a lot of my inspiration
@oss279
@oss279 27 күн бұрын
Sensei PhiDx, Superb video as always!
@LudenTr
@LudenTr Ай бұрын
I think people understand the philosophy of Tekken 8 at this point. It's more about whether it's more fun or not.
@xLeavf
@xLeavf 6 күн бұрын
Perfect greedy Analysis.
@mathewrynes
@mathewrynes Ай бұрын
The game was also adjusted since release. Heat smash was nerfed and ss was buffed
@NoWBrian
@NoWBrian Ай бұрын
KNEE WON BRO A TOUR?... WHAT A BEAST UNLEASHED
@jns90
@jns90 Ай бұрын
In a really stacked tournament too
@xiayu27
@xiayu27 Ай бұрын
9:12 Agree. The randomization of the stages in this game is far from good. I might as well pick the same stage half the time I play because it's almost always the same.
@Fariorn
@Fariorn Ай бұрын
Finally. Knee found the Heat engage button! GJ!
@PerkoVY
@PerkoVY Ай бұрын
The spikes on Bryan’s shoes gave him extra damage on his d4s.
@meursault223
@meursault223 Ай бұрын
I was looking forward to your analysis!
@Deadmeatsz
@Deadmeatsz 12 күн бұрын
It apparently depends on what kind of tekken you want whenever you like the changes or not. (Also speedkicks stays free in tournaments) 😎
@Ttangko_
@Ttangko_ Ай бұрын
If this pattern is true, it would be cool to see other matches in these type of videos to drive the point home
@tekkensora
@tekkensora Ай бұрын
17:09 bryan's 1+2 is actually -7 on block the thing about it is the mental frames
@brabababus8216
@brabababus8216 Ай бұрын
i hope knee gets one more world championship title because he is an absolute legend
@DaGuyz47
@DaGuyz47 5 күн бұрын
Its like everyone forgets he using bryan. One of the most honest characters in the game. That shows his skills shine brighter than most players. In tourney, thats beyond impressive playing him at this level.
@PatrykG59
@PatrykG59 26 күн бұрын
now everyone will have to adapt to knee instead of knee to everyone
@Blobertbigly
@Blobertbigly 22 күн бұрын
Bryan is so back, but only for those that can handle the neutron style
@TrickyEileen
@TrickyEileen 29 күн бұрын
Yes Ty for showing how the complaints are literally with every new fighting game. Almost bar for bar the same with newest versions of games.
@Tom_Bombadil3000
@Tom_Bombadil3000 Ай бұрын
random is i believe just random. there's not "good" random and "bad" random, that just means you either like or don't like the outcome.
@BlackPegasusBP
@BlackPegasusBP Ай бұрын
"They rolled the same stage, so the random is not that good" Well that's the thing with random: you can never tell for sure
@Blobertbigly
@Blobertbigly 21 күн бұрын
Yeah that take makes no sense, sometimes you roll the same thing, there's only like 10 stages
@mcbill7352
@mcbill7352 Ай бұрын
fgc 'veterans' when the sequel is different to the original:
@Joshbehe
@Joshbehe Ай бұрын
All the discourse around the stage randomization being broken is silly. It would be the easiest thing to program a random selection. Random includes streaks and clumps, it's simply confirmation bias that we all notice when the same stage comes up twice. You see the same thing in every card game where gamers complain about the shuffler being broken constantly.
@xRhychux
@xRhychux Ай бұрын
I dont believe that the random is actually random, i think its cycling the stages and you can choose when it stops. Would love to see someone study this
@Crimsongz
@Crimsongz Ай бұрын
Tekken 7 had the same issue. Random isn’t actually random
@TheLibra97
@TheLibra97 Ай бұрын
I think they should include an algorithm to give less weight to the previously played stage while going back at least till character selection, so the chances of the same stage showing up again is greatly reduced, but still possible. It won't really be random (what really is random in computers), but would be much better to play in my opinion
@ShaunInce123
@ShaunInce123 Ай бұрын
​@@Crimsongz Reminds be of the time where Artic Snowfall got picked so many times on random select in a Tekken 7 tournament
@TheOceanManTV
@TheOceanManTV Ай бұрын
"Heat Smash for 50/50" isn't accurate in my opinion, it's more like a rock paper scissors for some characters because it's a 3 way. For example: Jin enters Breaking Step, but if he tries to apply a 50/50 of Mid/High - he can be denied by simply jabbing him, making the third option (EWHF) the correct choice in that case.
@R37R063
@R37R063 Ай бұрын
Hey Phi , I don't know if you gonna see my comment or not , but Bryan plays with 1+2 mentals frames , they don't finish the string , instead they use a new move like df1 , F3 , D2 . And because the opponents visually confirm that " oh Bryan didn't finish the string let me take my turn back " and he jabs , but Bryan's move connects first , so I think because of that johnding played the gamble to jab after 1+2 , so he can get +8F with jab hit , but knee only did 1+2 and no mental frame move , just my theory, i could be wrong also ... And yaaa BiG fan PHiii ❤
@overdriver99
@overdriver99 Ай бұрын
it is impressive that Knee beat Ulsan in this tournament.
@albertrex3813
@albertrex3813 Ай бұрын
When Knee beating Ulsan 2-0 (3-1 & 3-0) in TGU, I already know, Knee's finally finished downloading this game.... Knee have so many comeback, especially vs Claudio Hafiz Tanveer....
@tylerreda687
@tylerreda687 Ай бұрын
PhiDX: I want to try to make shorter videos Also PhiDX: 20 minute video
@mikeestill1672
@mikeestill1672 14 күн бұрын
Ars Ash needs to watch this PhiDX video
@dmendust54
@dmendust54 23 күн бұрын
Time 9:49 does jet upper bc had faster frame advantage than rising upper.
@shaftmastr7753
@shaftmastr7753 20 күн бұрын
i do wanna say while yes, people always say every tekken is easier than the last, and thats because its usually true, i do think tekken 8 is different. and for me personally, while i played tekken as a kid, i never took it very seriously until 8. i played very little tekken 7, but after i got about 400 hrs in tekken 8, i was getting burnt out and went back to tekken 6, 7, and tag 2 to round out my tekken knowledge. and honestly those games are just so much more fun than tekken 8. and this coming from someone who never played tag, and played tekken 7 like 3 or 4 times. i played 6 as a kid but obviously never really actually learned how to play it. so im not a tekken oldhead by any means but i still think 6 7 and tag 2 are all superior to 8. but maybe im just saying that because i never played those games competitively. but lets talk about tag 2, newer players being carried by "all that movement", giving players better movement is a good way to open things up for new players, making the game feel smoother. and really no tekken game feels as smooth as tag 2. whereas the thing that gives newer players an edge over older players in 8 is because 8 is honestly so much more different from 7 than 7 was from tag 2. and the newer mechanics are generally just frustrating and not thought out very well. the game feels stiff compared to 7, and mixups are way too strong. obviously, pros are pros, and they can adapt, but just cuz you can adapt to something doesnt mean its well made. humans adapted to the great depression but that doesnt mean we liked it.
@Concealed.Revealed
@Concealed.Revealed Ай бұрын
For me, controlling the fifty-fifty with defensive movement and limiting your opponents options (at critical moments) is what makes Tekken great. But in this particular Tekken, (though it can be a fun game at times) is extraordinarily frustrating most of the time because it swings in a direction of "press a button" rather than "step a move" - you can see this clearly in the Knee vs. Shadow final round. For now, I think I'll just reserve myself to playing through everything except rank mode because its way too stressful in a bad way.
@troygorl
@troygorl 28 күн бұрын
It was only a matter of time 😈
@Sadbringer
@Sadbringer Ай бұрын
Have been playing that matchup a lot lately but in t7; can confirm ws1 of Bryan whiffs on Eddy's slide low. It just doesn't reach far enough horisontally. Kinda insane that Jet Upper does reach lol, never tried that. Fisherman Slam works just fine in that situation.
@WickdUser
@WickdUser Ай бұрын
Grand final on this tournament please!
@BruhY2k
@BruhY2k 20 күн бұрын
we speak sceam. dont underestimate us.
@Penoodle
@Penoodle Ай бұрын
I don't know if there is a matchup specific reason for not launching eddy sweep with while rising 1, but in my experience opting for jet upper will get you much more wall travel. Could be talking out of my ass for this one but I believe you can on average squeeze out a bit more damage as well.
@ThatLadyAgatha
@ThatLadyAgatha Ай бұрын
i need all the eddy mu knowledge i can get tysm!
@spacebarvideoproductions
@spacebarvideoproductions Ай бұрын
Amazing video as usual.
@garymichalles8383
@garymichalles8383 Ай бұрын
Wait, ATL is now STL? That was a quick rebrand lol It was just ATL during the masters event earlier this year
@avgoldhead7207
@avgoldhead7207 Ай бұрын
Ngl I'm that old head that will die without using heat😂😂😂. But I'm coming around to it. I hated rage arts and I didn't use it at first. Then I just gave in and leaned into it. Same thing with heat. I hate but it, in order for me to get better I have to let go of the mentality that it's scrubby, lame,etc. Just use the tools given.
@delor42
@delor42 Ай бұрын
W mindset. Not the biggest fan of heat either, (This my first Tekken game I'm grinding, been a casual fan since 5) but I do think they are better than rage drives, at least from the little I played of 7 seriously.
@yaboibSLT
@yaboibSLT Ай бұрын
I liked using rage drives but always hated how it consumed rage and rage arts felt like pausing the flow of a match. Heat feels like somewhere in between because you actually need to connect for it to work.
@Reayashin
@Reayashin Ай бұрын
Adapting doesn't make them less scrubby mechanics, if only modern fgs have "high" standards instead of rewarding bad plays.
@pian-0g445
@pian-0g445 26 күн бұрын
Dude, happens with me on every new release. At first I kept forgetting about heat. Then I released how much pressure it adds (cause the opponent always used it against me).
@michaellee7630
@michaellee7630 Ай бұрын
1:50 thanks DoA devs
@nightskysniper1553
@nightskysniper1553 Ай бұрын
almost spat out my coffee hearing you call dropped combos/misinputs a PhiDX combo LOL
@WhensMahvel
@WhensMahvel Ай бұрын
Phi doing tricks on it.
@hallzerb
@hallzerb Ай бұрын
Where is my perfect freeze frame of bryan and eddy :P
@NicoSleepyLeen
@NicoSleepyLeen Ай бұрын
One thing to notice is how mid match Knee starts taunting, means he feels really confident about his offense at that point
@AT_BASE
@AT_BASE Ай бұрын
Taunt jet upper? Na it’s unblockable tech
@myriadheartss
@myriadheartss Ай бұрын
taunt is an unblockable that gives guaranteed follow ups
@sourcesauce
@sourcesauce Ай бұрын
lol
@AK-sw1nj
@AK-sw1nj Ай бұрын
are you brain dead?
@Sean_Lee99
@Sean_Lee99 29 күн бұрын
Bryan's taunt isnt really meant for taunting
@loto7197
@loto7197 23 күн бұрын
"Every time a new tekken comes out" says the guy whose first tk was 7
@Blobertbigly
@Blobertbigly 21 күн бұрын
Is this true? If so, damn
@loto7197
@loto7197 21 күн бұрын
@Blobertbigly phi hasn't been playing that long, both to his credit and detriment
@mrjuan234
@mrjuan234 21 күн бұрын
People would still be upset if nothing changes from the previous Tekken. You can't win either way some won't adapt or don't like the new style. I like all the Tekkens
@awepsalmgamin
@awepsalmgamin Ай бұрын
Knee uses Standing 3 a lot these days
@emswonkenoon9104
@emswonkenoon9104 Ай бұрын
Tekken tag 2 was everything but easy! The most difficult tekken game, at least for me
@JBlxckk
@JBlxckk Ай бұрын
i would love to see knee start playing against brryans like ty inkognito tk some of the more unique bryans that use a lot of there moveset and i understand knee plays his way with his tools but would love to see him implement some of the crazy frame traps and combo into oki setups these guys use i feel like it would make him unbeatable so many of these lead into 2 tap setups
@dr.albantross1686
@dr.albantross1686 Ай бұрын
He stomped lowhighs Bryan in this very tournament.
@duskkkk17
@duskkkk17 Ай бұрын
I love PhiDX
@oobagoo8797
@oobagoo8797 Ай бұрын
I don't mind the long video format personally
@dylaroo24
@dylaroo24 Ай бұрын
I think the monetisation for Tekken 8 is fine except for the new map drama, that was stupid, season pass owners should’ve gotten it. Besides that I think things like the battle pass is fine.
@Yorsem
@Yorsem Ай бұрын
19:10 Um actually qcf1+2 is an elbow attack ☝🤓
@tenquestionmark_s
@tenquestionmark_s Ай бұрын
Yknow I’ve been curious as to why phi hasn’t really played much Bryan . He seems like a good fit for his playstyle. Could be he has tried him and just doesn’t vibe with Bryan, but I’d be interested in seeing him main Bryan.
@Mr440c
@Mr440c Ай бұрын
16:46 He maybe is but that's definitely not WHY he is. Knee eats a jab and immediately goes b1 at -8. Is that a defensive play according to PhiDX?
@depsi4518
@depsi4518 29 күн бұрын
Holy glaze
@BandaiSCUM
@BandaiSCUM Ай бұрын
Do you think that since Knee won Bandai will hive us the Heihachi stage for free?
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