PHIL COLLINS: ON AMERICAN DRUMMER CHESTER THOMPSON DRUMMING FOR GENESIS - Revised

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THIS 2014 INTERVIEW, PHIL COLLINS DESCRIBES HOW HE RECRUITED THE AMERICAN DRUMMER CHESTER THOMPSON TO PLAY DRUMS WITH GENESIS, REPLACING PHIL AS THE PRIMARY TOURING DRUMMER. FROM 1976-2007 . THE HIGH POINT OF THEIR TIME TOGETHER WERE THOSE MOMENTS IN THE SHOW WHEN THEY PLAYED HIGH INTENSITY DRUMMING DUETS.
WATCH - CHESTER THOMPSON INTERVIEW : DRUMMING WITH GENESIS & PHIL COLLINS here • CHESTER THOMPSON INTE...
*PHIL COLLINS PLAYLIST - • PHIL COLLINS UP CLOSE
GENESIS PLAYLIST - FULL INTERVIEWS & shorter sections • GENESIS UNFILTERED - P...

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@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES
@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Ай бұрын
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@Rembrant65
@Rembrant65 Ай бұрын
Four sticks, three chairs, two drummers, and one objective, making magic.
@forthwithtx5852
@forthwithtx5852 Ай бұрын
Despite all of Phil’s success as a singer, songwriter, composer, etc. one of my favorite drummers of all time. Such an icon.
@curiousnomad
@curiousnomad Ай бұрын
I asked Chester at a clinic once what his three main band leaders expected of him. He said Zappa expected everything to be perfect- like orchestral music. Everything was as Frank expected. He said Zawinul wanted total creativity constantly- always be soloing and interacting, and never the same. He said with Phil and Genesis he was there to serve the music of those groups and basically fill Phil’s role. I’m sure there was some improvisation, but the music was the music.
@Jeff-rh8mq
@Jeff-rh8mq 18 күн бұрын
I've seen Genesis 5 times since the early 80's and have still to this day been the best shows of of my life!
@klnine
@klnine Ай бұрын
Sir Chester and sir Darrell held my band together . thank you both !
@RBLevin
@RBLevin Ай бұрын
Great drummer. Among the top 10 ever.
@craigchapman8220
@craigchapman8220 Ай бұрын
They are generational talents. I really hope they can mend fences because life is short. I loved watching their duets. We will never see the likes of that again.
@stevehardisty6502
@stevehardisty6502 Ай бұрын
Been to several of Chester Thompsons drum clinics thanks to Terry Wion at Ace Music years ago. In fact, I was able to meet Phil with Chester introducing me to him through Terry and Chesters friendship. Great bunch of guys and mentors, forever grateful for those moments! I still have Chesters autographed photo and Genesis album cover, and have both sets of thier sticks in my collection... Wonderful years of memories!
@simoncooper5803
@simoncooper5803 Ай бұрын
This is about the third time I’ve listened to this & it never disappoints. Thanks John
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron Ай бұрын
Any other suggestions for similar channels Sir?
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron Ай бұрын
Watched the pair of them play together at Earls Court in 1994 Genesis We Can’t Dance tour and they had the entire audience hypnotised and honestly stunned by their skills and awesome dexterity and I’m very glad to have been there, thanks again Mr Uploader of your wonderful channel and please keep it coming Sir. 🥁🎤🎺🎧
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron Ай бұрын
I’m mostly focused on their duet mid concert and the incredible affect they had upon our behaviour in the audience, unbelievable music that was just never to be heard from again and we all knew that fact which made the whole duration of their performance together even more magical..😂👏🥁
@HippoYnYGlaw
@HippoYnYGlaw Ай бұрын
What a smile! Phil's a real trooper. 'Very easy to get on with' ... You did very well to discuss this aspect of Genesis with him. Thanks for sharing.
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron Ай бұрын
I’m so glad I found him before I became a political being but I’m not going to let that affect my views or opinions on him change because his and his bandmates are a magical part of our young lives that can’t be surpassed. Thanks 🙏 🎺🎧🎚️☘️👏
@joecancer6013
@joecancer6013 Ай бұрын
​@@DaveSCameronI liked Genesis and Phil, until he went with Epstein
@TheAmarok87
@TheAmarok87 Ай бұрын
@@joecancer6013 There's a list online with full details on each celebrity, ones which went to the island, ones for business and ones which were just contacts. Phil is listed thankfully just as a contact. Not everyone a pedophile knows is one themselves, thought that would be obvious. Rich people sometimes just like to meet other rich people and hangout and just meet. Doesn't always have to be for devilish things Besides, Courtney Love is in there too. She was one of the first to throw shit at Weinstein so I don't think this in itself means anything.
@mathewj.deroko4856
@mathewj.deroko4856 Ай бұрын
Phenomenal line of questioning sir. Phil’s sticks produced by Promark in the late 80s to early 90’s were in fact shorter than your average drumstick. Another question I’ve always wanted to ask him was how he did the drum bit of the tom crash tom crash (usually simultaneously hit or in beat) as part of the ending to “Against All Odds” and incorporated in a lot of his solo/Genesis work came about and how he developed it. Thank you for sharing!
@davidwylde8426
@davidwylde8426 Ай бұрын
It’s interesting how many times I’ve had discussions on line or even in the ‘real world’ and praised Phil’s drumming,( I’m not a drummer, although I have programmed beats and been lucky enough to work and compose with fantastic real drummers), and they’re almost a little shocked that I could rate him ‘so’ highly….. until you drop the quotes of other world class drummers,( often their heroes), and what they have said about him, and suddenly they’re all like …. ‘I should probably check him out’. Precisely, … if you haven’t even bothered to listen to him then don’t comment. Same as the other half of his rhythm section … Rutherford. Fuckin insane player.
@silvia6068
@silvia6068 Ай бұрын
Great interview, I love listening to Phil talk...thank you!! 🥁🎤🎶
@WintersWar
@WintersWar Ай бұрын
Primo material John. I always wondered if Phil ever talked about his tambourine dance routine idea? Another fun moment along with the drum duets.
@396Cap
@396Cap Ай бұрын
Great interview. Watched lots of your Genesis and Phil Collins interviews. Thanks John.
@steveton9155
@steveton9155 Ай бұрын
Thank you. Fantastic
@Neal_Schier
@Neal_Schier Ай бұрын
Thank you for uploading this. Very much like the story here!
@jeffdawson2786
@jeffdawson2786 Ай бұрын
Adding Chester was a great move.
@fd1930
@fd1930 Ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this John As always, insightful but responsible and non pushy, you bring the best out in Phil and in all these docs you do Great to hear you again!
@abundantYOUniverse
@abundantYOUniverse Ай бұрын
First! I appreciate these so much Mr. Edgington!
@rogermoscrop4523
@rogermoscrop4523 Ай бұрын
Before Genesis Phil Collins was a successful session drummer. Chester mentions Phil was self taught). The study (transcription of Genesis and Phil’s playing, including his technique which was represented in ‘Phil’s style’, was the foundation of Chester’s observations. CT was emphatic Phil and he hit it off from the ‘Go’. The drummer will use, the sticks, mallets, brushes etc for the music and situation. Stick weight & length will be more to personal taste / technique [sticking and style]. The interview process seems boarding on confrontational? The line about kids sticks, very funny 🤣 Well taken Phil ✊
@krusher74
@krusher74 Ай бұрын
Compaired to standard length/average drumsticks andthe average length on most pro players signature sticks, Collions are about 1 inch short and thompsons about 1" long, they are at the 2 extremes. about as far apart as you would find in signature sticks.
@volkswagent6raillad850
@volkswagent6raillad850 Ай бұрын
I’ve often wondered how the years would’ve transpired if Bill Brufford had carried on
@cintrepdchannel5854
@cintrepdchannel5854 24 күн бұрын
Why do they refer to Chester and Daryl as "American" drummer/guitarists all the time? You don't see people referring to Phil and Mike as British musicians.🙃
@alkebulansan
@alkebulansan Ай бұрын
Love both theses dudes, Phil and Chester. When Mr.Collins said he wanted to put the funk into Genesis, when I listen to The Lamb, that's exactly what I feel, there's so much groove and funk in that album starting with obviously, Fly on a Windshield. And should you be curious about Chester's jazz drumming you must check out Air Pocket and their album Fly On, super heavy changes and delightful intricacies. And finally, Phil Chester I hope you've made up and are now friends again, dumb to squander a deep friendship.
@RGB06084
@RGB06084 Ай бұрын
Who'd have thunk it? Chester had a longer stick than Phil, but Phil hits it harder!
@malcolmhobden4350
@malcolmhobden4350 Ай бұрын
Thought Phil might have mentioned he had actually asked Simon Phillips first to join Genesis but Simon was contacted to the Jack Bruce band so he had decline Phil's offer. So Chester got the gig. Genesis
@SuperQdaddy
@SuperQdaddy Ай бұрын
Well I hope chester got paid well..after dedicating most his career playing Phil's music...ive noticed the look on his face...alot of the music is emotional..its just a shame..thats all
@stevewoo8154
@stevewoo8154 Ай бұрын
Did he say he didn't want to talk about the fall out, or did you just not want to go there?
@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES
@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Ай бұрын
I understood from Phil that they did talk privately in 2014 shortly before this interview. It was obvious there was sensitivity about it. I didn't feel it was necessary to go there for the purpose of this filming, which was a very broad brush mainly covering the 1980s,90s.
@IThinkYouLookLarvely
@IThinkYouLookLarvely Ай бұрын
​@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES I'm hoping things are better between them now (and either way, at least it's not as feudal as the Waters/ Gilmour situation, which I'm sure it's not!)
@user-qt1rr5tk9i
@user-qt1rr5tk9i Ай бұрын
Chester said he got the blame for this and that
@IThinkYouLookLarvely
@IThinkYouLookLarvely Ай бұрын
11:50 I think that's Mike joining in, he's such a diplomatic chap! Hasty edit : On listening again it's not him- I'm hearing Giles Martin (vocally similar, but probably not him!!)
@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES
@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Ай бұрын
It’s Graham - my wonderful cameraman who’s also a musician.
@IThinkYouLookLarvely
@IThinkYouLookLarvely Ай бұрын
@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Ah, thank you for the clarification John. And for all these uniquely insightful videos of course.
@christ.8547
@christ.8547 Ай бұрын
🆒caT!!...💙🎯💯🌎✌🏽😇..(RoCK ON!...🤘🏽)
@robertnobody
@robertnobody Ай бұрын
Chester spent 30 years in Genesis as a touring drummer, but he had a falling out with Phil Collins in 2010 and they haven't spoken since.
@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES
@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Ай бұрын
Not according to Phil. He told me he called Chester shortly before this interview in 2014
@scrambaba
@scrambaba 18 күн бұрын
@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIESNot sure if it was 2014 or whenever, but Chester himself says that they haven‘t spoken in years, if I recall correctly.
@gatchpaints
@gatchpaints Ай бұрын
It's tough to have two drummers in a band unless you start out on world tours with large stages. Local bands playing in bars don't have room for two drummers to set up. Where would a band like that even play?
@TVGuy729
@TVGuy729 Ай бұрын
Too bad they dont speak to each other anymore...
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron Ай бұрын
Really, sad to hear about this…😊
@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES
@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Ай бұрын
@TVGuy729 I understood from Phil that they did talk privately in 2014 shortly before this interview.
@rodericde876
@rodericde876 Ай бұрын
Can’t swing Collins subs a jazz drummer to play for him.
@gnyx1566
@gnyx1566 Ай бұрын
Bit forward of the cameraman there interjecting. How dare he. Although, could have a point?
@gnyx1566
@gnyx1566 Ай бұрын
hee hee.
@j.t.cooper2963
@j.t.cooper2963 Ай бұрын
You can tell Phil has drank a lot of alcohol in his life.
@codersexpo1580
@codersexpo1580 Ай бұрын
How? How can you tell?
@j.t.cooper2963
@j.t.cooper2963 Ай бұрын
@@codersexpo1580 First of all it's no secret that he was a self admitted alcoholic for years and you can see the damage it's done to him physically. If you want to know the exact damage I suggest you read up on what alcoholism does to you and then you will see the signs yourself.
@Bobaman5400
@Bobaman5400 Ай бұрын
No you cant. Youre just trying to sound educated on youtube. 90% of long term alcohol effects are with blood/cholesterol, organs & digestive. None of which could you tell by looking at somebody for a few minutes. He looks normal. Dont be a 🤡
@joecancer6013
@joecancer6013 Ай бұрын
Epstein client
@user-nv2gw1tt5o
@user-nv2gw1tt5o Ай бұрын
Yup - you can see the regression in motor skills, eye contact, taking. I just lost my 44 year old boss to it. Same changes.
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