Does the SIGMA fp have a future?

This is a semi-review of the Sigma fp. One of the most interesting and perplexing cameras to come out in years. I say semi-review as compared to my usual reviews this is pretty short and I don't go into everything that it does. This is much more focused on the pros and cons of the camera. Make sure you watch till the end as the final edit of the cinema DNG footage is utterly gorgeous. This camera is capable of one hell of a great image!
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[@johnhealey6455]

This camera is capable of producing wonderful images. So small and yet so capable. Lots to like.

[@philadams9254]

This really is the true successor to the 1080 BMPCC. I used that camera for years, so picking this up was like meeting an old friend who had matured and gone up in the world. It's actually FUN to use too. The size and weight are such a big deal! Incredible bit of kit

[@marianoguy]

Do you shoot raw on it? What's your workflow like?

[@philadams9254]

@@marianoguy Yes, it's just cinema DNG RAW which is fairly straightforward. Most of my work at the moment involves colour grading and sending off the files for someone else to edit, so I usually do the colour work in Premiere, then export to DNxHD.

[@isaacroberts9089]

Despite all its claims to fake though it doesn’t have dynamic range!! After sound quality, a high dynamic range is the most important attribute for determining image quality. The specs don’t matter if, after KZbin compresses the shut out of it, it could still look like it was shot on a smart phone

[@philadams9254]

@@isaacroberts9089 Are you kidding me? The DR for this thing is off the scale and low-light performance is insane

[@danielwerjefelt]

This camera has so underrated color science I get blown away every time I use it in a production.

[@daygon128]

Their Foveon cameras are incredible as well. Some of the best image quality and color rendition I've ever seen.

[@DollyRanch]

Corey S. Vaughn I'm not sure why Fuji uses X-Trans... looks very strange when scaled to 100%. But Foveon looks amazing blown up! But not without constraints according to the fp team

[@secondwaveprod]

@@DollyRanch Sigma uses a bayer sensor, i think from Sony, not sure. Not the foveon.

[@DollyRanch]

@@secondwaveprod yes I'm aware, but in their stills camera their "oddball" pattern was actually very nice, whereas in the hybrid X-T3 & X-T4, Fujifilm's "oddball" pattern produces some strange, squiggly results

[@ronronchau]

@Gap have any data shown that it uses sony's? or simply uses the towerjazz one which Panasonic supplies their S series?

This is the kind of review you would pay to see in theaters! Great job, as always. I love the camera, but I'm still fighting in my mind between Sigma FP, Sony A7c or Fujifilm XT4 ... The more I see ... The more confused I get! ...

[@Chris-ey7zy]

I have A7c. Love the color science but want this sigma

[@GabrielSalazarSoto]

You are the Bob Ross of camera reviews; relaxing, inspiring and makes me think there is a better world out there. :) thanks

[@MichaelGAubrey]

While you're frustrated with Sony and software updates, the Sigma FP is on firmware version 4.0. How many of your original issues are still around?

[@ohstanley3058]

There is something magical about the stills this produces. I shoot my M lenses w it and it is amazing. Steve huff did a good video on the photo strengths of the FP.

[@philipbloom]

Do you not have issues with the rolling shutter for stills!?

[@alexcorll90]

@@philipbloom Been wondering this as well, most samples I've seen look good, but some people have said it's an issue with blowing grass, fluorescent lights, etc.

[@ohstanley3058]

@@philipbloom I haven't had any issues as of yet. Im shooting mostly street and some documentary. I find myself grabbing the Sigma FP over my SL2 often. Something about shooting with it is addictive.

[@SD_Alias]

@@philipbloom only at flourescent light and sometimes when shooting faster objects. Yes a mechanical shutter would be nice.

[@whoismatt]

Took 13 minutes to get to the cat footage I was waiting for. Worth the wait!

[@YoungBlaze]

what lens are you using for that Lush Beard of yours? i need the deets!

[@Ed-davies]

I feel rather cheated! Was expecting a 2 hour monster review! In all seriousness, a great review of what could be a great camera, It seems like such a frustrating camera as it is so close to being great. Wonderful music that reflected the sorrow that this isn't a better camera!

[@scottgmaclean]

Thanks for the review Philip. I love your calm, honest and positive approach, and mix of info and images! I always felt this was a special camera since seeing Johnnie’s review at CineD - the colours were amazing and organic-looking. As a GH5 user looking to upgrade to full frame, I was sorely tempted... but then we had a raft of amazing cameras hit the market and it kind of got pushed to the back of the line.

[@StephanBuchin]

If only results count, then this is one of the best consumer video camera there is. Image quality is just fantastic and the edited footage at the end is here to prove it.

[@RealSoundReviews]

my god your work is such a relief when one hears the variety and the relevance of music you use. So tired of hearing the same pre-made music everywhere. And indeed all of this is super well done and interesting

[@rasheed106]

This is an amazing tool in the right hands. Everything you could possibly need. Codec + compact. Don't let the name fool you, Sigma created a masterpiece.

[@ezrarichardson279]

Yeah, all these people are comparing it to vlogging cameras not cinema cameras. Pretty weird really.

[@chucklos391]

I just discovered it. Seen many reviews. I hope to buy it someday. Some reviews are mixed, but the negative reviews I'm not buying. I love the strengths. Very unique. Masterpiece? It could very well be.

[@matthewvonblerk9675]

low light looks impressive, very clean.

[@surrogatemarker]

Love the balance of your reviews .. at times, and probably intentionally I feel as though you are making a movie to be played in a board room conference room screen by the product’s company executives. Many, if not all of them never having actually used their products as tools to tell stories.. as you do.. I love that you have given them a visually and artistically compelling reason to improve the camera to what it could be.. you certainly did a nice job in your subtle way getting the Sony A7siii to what it could be .. maybe sigma will do the same .. they do make such great lenses now.. they should make a camera to match..

[@smalldeekgeorge]

You need to redo this! This camera is a beast now. They listen and they fix. In love with this little camera.

[@philipbloom]

so what have they changed that makes this a "beast" now? Nothing has changed. Please correct me if I am wrong.

[@smalldeekgeorge]

Firmware Ver. 2.00: Cinemagraph creation and playback CinemaDNG footage playback Still capture during live view and movie shooting in Cine mode Still image capture from movie files (CinemaDNG, MOV) shot with the SIGMA fp HDR in movie shooting Still and movie shooting in Director's Viewfinder mode Supports DCI 4K 12bit / HDMI Raw output Supports RAW over HDMI recording with Atomos Ninja V monitor-recorder* *A free AtomOS firmware update for Ninja V is required Supports recording Blackmagic RAW codec over HDMI with Blackmagic Video Assist 12G models* *Requires firmware update of Video Assist 12G models using Video Assist Update 3.3. Camera movement control is compatible with ZHIYUN Weebill S gimbal* Its kinda better beast now :)

[@philipbloom]

@@smalldeekgeorge that’s the camera in this video.

[@smalldeekgeorge]

Oh sorry my mistake. I though you wer on the firmware 1.0. :(

[@bodarville6527]

So close and so much potential... I hope they make an FP mark II.

[@extrashot]

I love the colours... but it looks like a great RAW camera with quite nice internal proxies! - useful review though, thank you.

[@mrjonkane]

Great coverage of the fp and beautiful footage to finish it off. I simply love the image from this camera in 12bit cDNG and grading it is such a pleasure. I mostly just grade short sequences direct off the T5 SSD on my 2016 MacBook Pro and it handles in Resolve beautifully but I agree a lossless compressed raw like braw to the SSD would be the icing on the cake 🤞

[@marcopervo]

It's future, not unlike it's present, is as a niche camera capable of beautiful images for those willing to put in the effort to discover their preferred settings and work through the challenges presented by it's form factor and menu system.

[@ezsteel78]

I find that SlimRAW is excellent for saving space in post with the DNG files. I shoot 12-bit and always offload as 10-bit log with SlimRAW. This produces lossless compressed files that are usually less than 1/3 of the original size and it is blazing fast, it takes the same time as straight copy from the SSD. And I know others compress to 5:1 lossy or even smaller on offload, which lowers footprint further. Due to the RED patent issues I am fairly certain we are not getting compressed DNG in the future, but an improvement Sigma can easily make is to provide 10-bit uncompressed log footage instead or in addition to the 12-bit linear. This will shave 1/6 of the SSD storage space without any noticeable quality loss. I recall both Canon and Panasonic do this with their raw capable cameras.

[@surajpatankar777]

the voice and the background music is just so perfect

[@philipbloom]

Thank you :)

[@w0bblyd0inkb0ink]

Music is super amazing!

[@prabhakarrao4922]

I actually got rid of my Canon 5D MK 4 because of sensor noise (purple banding when lifting exposure in post) and replaced it with the Sigma Fp and I was absolutely blown away by the quality of the image out of the Fp ( I mostly do Astrophotography). I will be getting into the video aspects come summer. This swap was the best decision I ever made. The Canon 5D MK4 is a very overrated camera in every way.

[@KevinBeckman]

Lovely video, Mr. Bloom. Thank you for entertaining us!

[@pcfreakx]

Bloom can make anything look sumptuous and amazing. Philip - I have a dare for you. Shoot something completely silly, a hot dog commerical, Legos, whatever, and give it that Philip Bloom sheen.

[@kalef1234]

thinking about grabbing one for wedding filming but now I'm not so sure this is the camera for me on such a run and gun style... but man 12bit raw for $1300 on ebay is tempting

[@trevorpinnocky]

Elegant and eloquent work as always

[@gregoryrogalsky6937]

Reviewing the camera at 8 bit was criminal.And love the cats shots. Not sure why you you complaining about the file sizes in 12 bit Raw . It is what it is.. To me your missing the point of this camera . it's not the size. It's the image quality in 12 bit. Of course it needs to be rigged up for serious Cini-work.

[@philipbloom]

how was I reviewing it at 8 bit? I covered everything. You cannot ignore the internal recording. I absolutely did not miss the point of the camera, I think I know cameras pretty well after all these years and everything has to be considered. Uncompressed Cinema DNG files whilst are high quality is a nightmare for data and time management.

[@enricojakobsoriano]

Great video. I too hope the FP has a future because I absolutely love mine!

[@film_insider]

I would really appreciate a video by a top class, like Phillip Bloom, to shot some kind of an ultimate video on best cameras that are not dealing well with autofocus. What are benefits of using these. And a gear for those. There are tons of people that don't know a thing about manual focusing, manual focus lens, advantages in price and control of frame that comes with manual focus. Because all they do, is watching vloggers talking about cameras. And a vlogger starts any camera review with autofocus...and then throws out a 7000$ g-master autofocus lens, and is still incapable of using it the way it should be used. The point of the video for all the boys and girls that like filming anything to be: -teach us basics of manual (many people don't now does manual focus works based on left/right position, or based on distance); -encourage people to at least try using manual; -explanation, that people don't need a full frame if they don't have a money for one; -a person with non full frame camera is not retarded or defected in any way. A bunch of motion pictures are recorded with super 35mm, that vloggers are calling "croped lens", and people that are doing this for a long time, like Mr.Bloom, are calling it super 35 or APS-c. That is the difference between a master and a vlogger yelling WHAT'S UUUUP at the start of every video. Unfortunately, many talented people with cameras, think that Philip Bloom is same what Peter McAnything is. -what are we getting in price and image quality by taking lenses without manual focus and what are a good options to combine with cameras such as Blackmagic4k/6k, Fuji x-t3/4, Panasonic GH5; - few words on cameras that are dealing with poor autofocus, and what they are giving us as a compensation; ... Don't want this channel to become a start up guide for someone that will use camera for a week and throw it away when it gets bored. But, I just think that words that come out out of someone that has been on SKY and dedicated a life to this craft, and went to every corner of the planet with a camera, would have a greater impact on talented people.

[@philipbloom]

I think you should check out my cinematic Masterclass :)

[@TacticalCactusMedia]

@@philipbloom Is your course by chance available on SkillShare, or solely via MZed?

[@TheMrBennito]

Thank you , Mt Bloom. I particularly like the part where you did set up the rig with that wooden shoulder support

[@pavel.suchkov]

As if David Attenborough spoke about cameras. It's a great pleasure to watch your reviews, mr. Bloom! Thank you for the effort you put in!

[@dodmedia]

I remember seeing your wooden rig at the launch event and wondering if it was an adapted rifle stock 😅

[@JamesWilliams-rw6qc]

I use a slightly modified Krasnogorsk-3 shoulder mount I found on eBay, not as stylish as Philips but built like a tank, at some point I want to do another modification and gingerly drill in the bottom to add a 1/4 or 3/8 inch metal thread but you only get one shot at getting it right. If it fails I may see if a local carpenter could knock one up it seems a fairly straight forward design and that way I could choose the wood and finish.

[@kentjensen4504]

Mr Bloom, I would love for you to do a follow up on the original FP, since so much has happened with firmware since then. A suggested cinema camera rig for tiny budget feature productions from you would be very welcome. I'd pay for such a pro guide.

[@briandipierro8865]

I've been hoping they'd come up with a Sigma FP mark II with a screen that either articulates or flips. I know they can keep it small. But it'd get in the way of using a cage. So I dunno. They fixed so much with it over time though, like you didn't even get playback on Cinema DNG at first.

[@UbiquitousBooks]

I currently use a BMPCC 4k, which is great and I don't want to compromise on the 12bit RAW. But even the slow autofocus of Sigma FP is surely better than the 4k that doesn't have continuous autofocus at all. Add in the smaller size, larger sensor, and the amazing warm colours the fp seems to chuck out and I'm feeling pretty tempted to add the fp to my arsenal. Does anyone have any views. Many seem to think the 4k makes the fp redundant, but is there a merit to having both?

[@colinthomas2525]

I’m eyeing this up too. I just want to know when the next update is and what’s to be expected. Apparently the fp L just got false colour in the last update so if fp gets that I just might be all in.

[@globalturfwar]

Buy it - you won't regret it!

[@thomasgunn4146]

This is the best fp review on youtube. Another wonderful video Phillip!

[@adamstorm1984]

Sigma FP2 needs the following (in order of importance): Mechanical shutter, PDAF/CDAF, clip on EVF not the nonsense they tried to sell ppl on, deal breaker on the next cam as those were the issues that made me sell my FP. And minor things include (would be nice): bigger battery, IBIS, grip option with battery upgrade (I should add the battery grip attachment could be the same size as the small grip. Could be just like attaching a power bank or something).

[@mattyskier]

Very nice review and beautiful footage from the FP! I was so close to buying this camera last year but the lack of IBIS and EVF as you stated were too big for me to give up. Such a pleasing image though!

[@lennutrajektoor]

I watched it twice - on a tablet and then on a 27" monitor in 1440.

[@zigmej]

I woke up today and realized i want this camera. Is there a new version coming in near future?

[@philipbloom]

There was last year, much worse for video.

[@zigmej]

@@philipbloom yeah, seems like pretty much everything is worse in video mode. hight pixel is the enemy. Fp is the one to get. Too bad Sigma doeas not have native pancake lens. That would be amazing for pocket size shooting.

[@CanditoTrainingHQ]

@@zigmej The Sigma 45mm F2.8 is quite close to pancake size. And awesome build quality.

[@Tethysmeer]

@@zigmej look at the Voigtländers, for example 35mm 2.5 skopar with an Adapter.

[@educatetube]

Philip, I have to disagree with you on this one. I just bought the camera and I love it. It does have a future, in my hands. Amazing 4k/2k 12bit 444 RAW cDNG. Low light similar to Sony a7s3 (but better colour science at night). Colour science is beautiful similar to Fuji XT3. And price, wow, half of Sony a7s3. If you are an inspired cinematographer this is the camera for you. I was able to fit my Nikon and Sony A-mount lenses to my Sigma FP using a special adaptors (less $50 each): Imagine Sony Zeiss 135mm F1.8 A-mount lens on Sigma FP, gorgeously beautiful creamy bokeh beyond imagination. I was able to get cheap SSD (less than $100) to work with it. AND I was able get unlimited external power source to attached to it via a dummy battery (less than $40). It has a director's view for Arri and RED cameras. What more do you want for a pocket-sized cinema camera with less than $2k price tag? If this is not the camera, then I don't think there will be a cinema camera at this price point in any foreseeable future, Philip.

[@philipbloom]

I don’t get your reply. I was very positive about a lot of the camera but pointed out that I am 100% certain they will fix in a mk ii. You talk about it being a pocket camera but you are adding all that stuff onto it! Is it really a “pocket camera” and does being a “pocket camera” really matter. You clearly aren’t using it out the box where it is small. So that point makes no sense. It needs an EVF. It needs a tilting screen. Great it records to huge cdng. Quality is great. File sizes are horrendous. So you don’t agree with me that the internal recording isn’t good enough? How is that even possible to disagree with? It’s not. Great you have wonderful manual focus with 3rd party lenses. How is that any different to other mirrorless cameras? £2000 isn’t that cheap. If you look at the new Blackmagic pocket cinema 6K pro that is a superior camera for £500 more. The sigma sits in an awkward spot. It’s small but you can’t really use it like that so you need to build it up but being a small base makes it harder. Anyway I said it all in the video. Don’t be defensive about the camera. It’s my opinion and this is based on everything that’s out there. This is a first generation model and it shows what needs to be done. sigma’s CEO messaged me to thank me for the detailed feedback as it was very useful for them. You can work round some of it limitations but wouldn’t it be better if you didn’t have to?

[@educatetube]

@@philipbloom Philip, thanks for your opinion but you need to respect mine as well. Remember, this is a full frame pocket cinema. Firmware is now at 2.03. Sigma and fujifilm are known to continue to improve their same camera overtime. That is very responsible and honorable thing. This is what customers' need. That is being respectable and loyal to their customer; the ancient Japanese's way. I don't see that in Sony and I own several of them (a7r3, a6100 and fs700r). Sony has lost their Japanese traditional values; they have not earn my respect (except for their fs700r which they did honour and follow through). When Japanese CEO emailed you, it is out of respect. It is something honourable men do even when they disagree with you. This characteristic so rare now a day. Sorry, for side tracking... For less than $2000 usd, Sigma FP is an amazing full-frame camera. Yes, evf would be nice, but Sony FX3 didn't have it. The weird thing is the camera that you are not happy with, I seem to love it: Sony fs700r and Sigma FP. I guess we think differently and use the camera differently. I really appreciate your honest feedback but we have different view point and needs. Keep up with your channel, with great respect, Sip.

[@philipbloom]

@@educatetube I said you can have your opinion. This is my video hence my explanation as to my issues which are generally accepted as problems. If it works for you then great.

[@educatetube]

@@philipbloom Thanks, and looking forward to your Sony FX3 review.

[@PossumReviews]

Doesn't having to carry around big full frame lenses defeat the purpose of a compact camera?

[@philipbloom]

Yes that 45mm lens on the camera that you see is soooooo big. Oh and their new 85mm F1.4? Mate is tiny compared to traditional ones. Oh yeah and what about adapted glass? Ever seen Leica m lenses? You can’t tell me those are big!?

[@PossumReviews]

@@philipbloom What if you need multiple focal lengths? If the whole point is to save space and weight, then you might not want to carry around multiple prime lenses. What's the smallest L-mount zoom available?

[@cucumberworks]

@@PossumReviews But it's FF so you can always crop/digital zoom. Carry a 45mm and get 72mm equiv in apsc, and 90mm in m43

[@tailehuynhphat9570]

@@cucumberworks but you dont get the same angle of view that you desire if you crop

[@cucumberworks]

​@@tailehuynhphat9570 You need to understand what digital zoom and crop means. Cropping a FF sensor 2x essentially gives the same FOV on a m43 with the same lens. Optical zoom uses the whole sensor size while changing FOV. If you compare FF sensor in its un-cropped wide angle state with a m43 lens, you get 4x more sensor area to play with.

[@BuildABergGroup]

This is the video that made me consider subscribing. Really great images from this camera.

[@Keyser-0]

For a photographer I always thought the FP should go 'boutique' on this and give us a full-frame Pentax Q. Video specs that match Philip's requests, small EVF accessory, on body hot shoe for flash, and contacts for proprietary lenses with built-in leaf shutter. It's a pity flange distance does not provide too much hope of a lens adapter with aperture ring / leaf shutter built-in for any lens make, esp, Leica M. I'd pay £600 for the latter accessory to avoid red dot snobbery and the masking of such with black tape.

[@deel7114]

my needs for sigma FP in future firmware update or 2nd generation : ① 3:1 or 5:1 dng raw to SSD or whatever ② 4K 60 fps raw(at least 10 bit please ), even in Crop mode S35 is nice ③ allow raw video with electronic stabilization ④ More control on focus peaking ( current tiny screen without big output monitor can not show the peaking accurately). by saying that , Sigma FP it''s still my most favorite run and gun gear to take out and shoot.

[@bottle273]

Thanks. Good summary. I have one and I love the images out of it. Either raw or mpeg. Having said that I just sent sigma an email literally seconds before I saw your video (funny that) asking sigma to introduce a compressed raw, so I echo your call. Also would like to find a easier way to listen to sound whilst recording. That’s a pain. However I find the internal mics are some of the best I have ever come across but outside the wind makes it very hit and miss. Inside or in calm conditions the internal mics are really surprising. Also agree on AF but I just go manual and forget about but it would be good to have better face detection. Overall I really like the camera and it’s versatility. Good on gibs too. Keep the pressure on Sigma, I believe they will respond either wise they are wasting their time, imo. Thanks.

[@Bruno_Saucedo]

These videos got me learning and getting sleepy at the same time😂 love it and awesome view on the camera 👍🐠

[@bigshooter461]

WOW! for all that this camera may lack anyone shooting Video on a 5DmkIV ( and there are a surprising number of people who still do ) this camera with an EF to L adapter would be quite enough of an upgrade to make it considerable!

[@selfscience]

17:00 Now you can put a DJI Lidar focus system.

[@srt10acrx]

Finally a review of the fp!

[@SD_Alias]

I had that camera for a week to test it for photography. I love the imagequality but i wish it would be about 40 MP not 24. What i missed was a EVF, a tilt display and a bigger grip with a bigger battery. Although it do not eat batteries like my Merrills, it would be good to have a bigger one in a needed grip. I did not like the attachable Viefinder. It turns the camera into a telescope and does not help shooting at low positions or over head in a crowd… I do not care about the not perfect AF. I would not need it for my kind of photography. There is a rumored FP-L. I hope it has the wanted features plus an IBIS and a mechanical shutter to avoid banding at flourescend light.

[@ChrisWhittenMusic]

The Sigma LVF comes with a new baseplate, identical to the body, the thing you attach the LVF to with the two Allen screws. It's a one time thing. The baseplate with LVF attaches to the FP body with a single large tripod style screw. When you want to remove the LVF you just unscrew the one large screw. same when you want to reattach it. I put the Allen key away and have never needed to use it more than once.

[@philipbloom]

Chris Whitten so am on a tripod. Low shot. How? Oh wait. Tripod base plate too. Dammit! Am handheld, I am 6 foot 2...I need to film or photograph a kid, my cats....if you don’t get why it needs to flip up or pull off like every other camera loupe ever used on a camera then I have no idea what you shoot.

[@ChrisWhittenMusic]

@@philipbloom Ugh, honestly is there any need to be gruff and rude. Jeez !!!! The first thing I posted was a 'very fair review' comment. I was simply trying to help with my LVF comment. Yes, I use a tripod too. Just trying to help! No idea why posting a simple attempt to help elicited asuch a rude and blunt reply. maybe stop posting KZbin videos!!!!!

[@ChrisWhittenMusic]

@@philipbloom I did agree I didn't like the LVF either and that is one of the major negatives of the FP. Maybe take a chill pill.

[@AllThingsFilm1]

But, but, but, it's not shaped like a cube!!! Just kidding. You're right. The images out of the Sigma fp are quite beautiful. Amazing colors.

[@stephanes.]

Sigma FP 2 soon ?

[@stuartfeldman]

Very helpful. Thanks.

[@alexcorll90]

That little Zacuto finder looks way more reasonably sized. Zacuto did make a finder for the fp, but everywhere I've seen it's marked as discontinued, not sure what that's about?

[@philipbloom]

For the reason I explained in the video. The frame doesn't stay on due to a coating on the glass.

[@alexcorll90]

@@philipbloom Ah I see, I misunderstood, I thought the one in the video was the generic DSLR finder from them, not the sigma fp specific one(I didn't think anyone managed to get the Z Finder for the fp before it got discontinued).

[@blender_wiki]

The best FF image quality under 2000$, the best RAW lightweight crash cam and the best director viewfinder on the market is a no brainier just buy one. You can't use on professionals set it because the ergonomics is a nightmare but the image quality is unbeatable even for much much more expensive cameras. SSD space is a false problem in 2020 SSD are damn cheap if you can't afford it maybe is because you propose the wrong qually standard to your client. In post just use slimRAW to save alot of space.

[@philipbloom]

Rigggght. So many things wrong with your comment. Plus a typo changes the whole meaning! 🤣

[@blender_wiki]

@@philipbloom 😂😂😂😂😂😂, I know it your a stand up comedian.

[@mrvk699]

Worth Buying into the L Mount Ecosystem??? Like the LUMIX S5 as a 2nd camera but 1st Full frame camera

[@franciscomejias6994]

Greatings!! Do you know a workaround for playback, to see of the shot was good? Thanks

[@TheEnglishExperience]

Is the back ground music, row, row, row your boat, or am I going crazy from spending too much time with a toddler.

[@philipbloom]

The English Experience for the opening, yes of course

[@GUILLERMO.NESPOlO]

I don’t know what to get the black magic pocket 4K with the metabones ( to get full frame looks ) or the 6k what u think mr bloom ? ( wish this camera form factor was use by black magic )

[@Warkis666]

So is it better to use the Neutral mode with contrast and sharpening pulled down than using the OFF mode because there is no option to get rid of sharpening? But if you shoot raw it actually does not matter, or does it (all the modes)? Sorry for dumb question and thanks for answer.

[@philipbloom]

Yes. Never use “color off”, well not until they fix that. Cinema dng is proper raw so it’s all metadata.

[@jmssun]

Yes! It needs a smart hot shoe! And an USB on the right side so we can make an external HDD into a grip

[@Grow_Everything]

Would love to see a review of the Zcam E2 F6 from you!

[@philipbloom]

I don’t have one...

[@cloutgroup5957]

Any idea how the image compares with RED?

[@JOAOAUGUSTODIASABREU]

Phenomenal review and inputs about this imperfect yet little wonder SIGMA FP! Did you use the MC-21 adapter for that 70-200mm Canon EF glass? I'm a owner of too many EF glass, willing to buy the Sigma FP but keep asking myself if the MC-21 does enable total functionality for my EF canon's? Much appreciated if you could help me out with this doubt. Thank you and please keep it up 👍

[@philipbloom]

Thank you Joao. Yes you can use it but there’s of course no AF so manual focus only and that’s a fiddly lens for MF especially on the long end. Fully functional though!

[@JOAOAUGUSTODIASABREU]

@@philipbloom That was really helpful! On one side MF it is then, but on the other aperture and stabilization is a go :) ! Sounds good to me! I don't mind the extra stretch in M.Focusing myself! Thank you so much Philip and, please, keep posting (when possible, of course), your work! Love it as your channel, so much! Its one of a kind! All the best from Madeira Island, Portugal!

[@colinthomas2525]

Have you tried firmware 4.0 yet? I would love to hear your thoughts on the new false colour.

[@colinthomas2525]

Did you ever go back to this?

[@bleuebloom]

Ummm correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t DNG already lossless compressed? Is cinema dng not? Also isn’t cinema dng better than ProRes for highlight recovery and changing white balance and stuff?

[@philipbloom]

No and yes but it seems you have missed the key point I was hammering. FILE SIZES!

[@bleuebloom]

@@philipbloom ohhhh sorry u just didn’t say it outright I don’t think, but yeah I agree, 187GB for 10mins is insane

[@edwardnoble9897]

Not quite the smallest full frame mirrorless. I just bought the Sony RX1 & converted to full spectrum (which might interest you). It have very good IR perforance btw. The RX1 is smaller and lighter than the Sigma with its smallest lens, which is also a stop slower and nowhere near as sharp. Of course the RX1 video is pretty lame by comparison. The RX1R II has a built-in viewfinder but don't be tempted to convert that to IR.

[@philipbloom]

Doesn’t count am afraid. Fixed lens.

[@edwardnoble9897]

@@philipbloom hehe, I know but you didn't specify 😛. On a serious note - As far as infrared stills are concerned I'm going to be testing it in Switzerland next week (fingers crossed) so will put it through its paces some more. The leaf shutter is nice being used to the noisy A7r. I've written a bit about it here if you're curious.: www.edwardnoble.com/rx1fs

[@alexamickey]

amazing review. however can we talk about the cat having a tile on it? lollll

[@philipbloom]

What about her? It’s what my mum uses to find her.

[@alexamickey]

@@philipbloom I've never seen those used on an animal before. I thought they were for electronics, keys, etc. I thought it was funny but also brilliant

[@oscarm4154]

i was close....but waiting for a MKII

[@towermedia5940]

So can someone explain to me how the rolling shutter has impact on the micro jitters?

[@TacticalCactusMedia]

A lot of people hear the term rolling shutter and think of all the YT reviews where the camera is whipped back and forth horizontally. This is done in order to see if the lines in their shot stay straight. If they warp and appear curved, this is an indication of rolling shutter. However, rolling shutter is not exclusive to side-to-side movement, it also occurs during quick vertical movements, which our hands do naturally to varying degrees (at a small scale), hence the phrase micro jitters. How bad the rolling shutter is on a camera depends upon the speed in which each frame is scanned and captured by the sensor. If you've ever heard of global shutter, that means a camera is capturing the entire frame all at once. A rolling shutter camera doesn't do this, as it scans the frame from top to bottom instead of all at once, which unfortunately can produce visual artifacting. This is where I find a lot of misinformation on the FP, with so many reviewers claiming that it features the same sensor as the Sony A7iii. Having owned both cameras, I have extensively tested this exact feature. On the A7iii, rolling shutter is a rather significant issue. On the FP, not nearly as much. This has led to my belief that these two cameras do not share the same sensor, although it really is speculation since the details of Sigma's sensor have not been made public (at least that I'm aware of). Hopefully this helped!

[@deelofilms]

Sigma FP.. or, you could get a Panasonic S1H.. I know, it doesn't have the cool RAW feature super curious to see your thoughts on the upcoming Canon C70, which looks like Canon's take on the S1H? (no EVF! bad IBIS! but that AF and 120fps)

[@philipbloom]

Daniel has Questions Canon’s take on the S1h? Erm...no. It’s a video camera, basically a new C100 and it’s S35

[@annekedebruyn7797]

Suck that they did away with the Foveon. I always liked the images coming from that sensor. Those cameras weren't sadly popular either despite being close to perfect.

[@philipbloom]

Can’t do video with those. They went perfect! They are super speciality. Great for landscapes. Painfully slow and a pain to post process

[@govtyule]

Thank you Philip for this review! It's a great help. I've owned this camera since February 2020 and loving it. Note to SIGMA: Please add functionality for the DJI RONIN - SC. I've bought a couple of manual M-mount lenses for this, no regrets, it keeps the form factor small and easiest to balance on the small gimbal.

[@JimIBobIJones]

It doesn't have a future. What has kept them afloat (as opposed to their dedicated stills camera lines which have dropped like a lead balloon) are that until recently the big boys hadn't really made "semi-professional" video cameras that bridge into the cinema camera territory. This segment has been worth it because of the lack of competition to the niche user base that want a "proper" cinema camera but at a lower budget than an entry level "real professional" cinema camera like the Red Komodo, Sony FX6 or equivalent (i.e. smaller "new media" - i.e. social media - entities and independents/contractors). But Sigma won't be able to compete now that established players have caught the scent of blood and have entered the same segment. With the likes of the sony FX3 and FX30 entering the same market segment, Sigma can't really keep this part of the business profitable whilst staying competitive on technology. You also have video camera getting so good that they can pretty compete directly with Sigma's "Cinema Cameras" without specifically being cinema cameras - a la Sony A7S, Canon 80d, Nikodn D750 etc. The reality is that cameras have become a small niche Sigma makes a little bit of extra money on the side rather than a key contributor to their bottom line. Sigma makes much better revenue and profit margins through their lens sales. If the business rationale for their cinema cameras disappears because the market leads invade their niche, they are much more likely to take the hit and redouble focus on their more profitable businesses rather than sink more good money after bad money trying to stay competitive on cinema cameras.

[@武俊-b9y]

Exactly, an EVF is must have for this tiny guy.

[@blaspayri]

Shouldn't Toneh be more accurately called Bloomeh? or Philipeh? Phileh???

[@blaspayri]

Someone needs a bokeh intervention....

[@formerlydave]

Ninja "5" it is.

[@philipbloom]

Yes! you are one of them! :)

[@homechoicehk]

How about Sony a7c

[@philipbloom]

What about it

[@kevincarter7633]

I like it a lot!

[@1nkd]

Thanks for the RAW explaination! Very helpful. SSD only & no additional recorder - was dreading spending a bit extra for a adiditonal recoder. Using this for future rare video use for architectural (still movement shots) movies for some clients landing webpages

[@picattiu4813]

As usual just came here watching your content, not the gear

[@OzzieTech]

Cool camera and unlike Sonys Claim this one is the actual smallest full frame camera. Too many limitations for my liking though. I think ill keep saving up for the A7Siii though by the time I have the $$ the A7SIV will be out :(

[@philipbloom]

Their claim is for a full frame mirrorless with in body image stabilisation.

[@OzzieTech]

@@philipbloom ahh ok I will give them that then ;)

[@antonzimin4930]

It will never have a lossless compressed raw recording cause it doesn't have enough processing power. It just can't process data. It throughs dng files to the ssd. I guess they've tried to make a log, but found out it's not possible as well. Takuma told they are working on a new innovation. It could be EVF)

[@philipbloom]

They can easily take the artificial sharpening in the colour mode off. Wouldn’t take much

[@antonzimin4930]

@@philipbloom But it is still 8 bit and about 8 stops I guess.

[@philipbloom]

@@antonzimin4930 it’s more like 10 in that mode and if it wasn’t for sharpening it’s robust enough for 8 bits.

[@antonzimin4930]

@@philipbloom But still it is a rec709 color space which is not that wide for grading. It would be great having rec2020 or wide gamut in mov. Then without a sharpening it could be robust more than enough)

[@philipbloom]

@@antonzimin4930 there’s definitely things they can improve for sure

[@HarriRomppainen]

Thank you for another lovely video! However, I would prefer to see you completely in focus, not only you eyes and parts of your face. KZbinrs seem to be fascinated by extremely shallow DOF. To me it is a bit too dreamy look.

[@philipbloom]

Mate you really don’t want to, it ain’t pretty! 🤣

[@HarriRomppainen]

@@philipbloom :)

[@CarlBergsdorf]

9:07 The gentleman with a hat on the back on his head

[@0kirai]

I still like your Philip montages as much, great music and great image I have great affection for your work, you were someone important at one point in my life, so thank you to you❤️. I own the Sigma FP ans i'am very happy. love guy 🤙😉

[@Aloewells]

BRAW is open, Sigma can incorporate that.

[@werem369]

Without log ...no unfortunetly

[@fellowcitizen]

DaVinci etc can convert RAW into LOG if you don't need the flexibility of RAW

[@werem369]

@@fellowcitizen I like raw but I would like to to have this same level of dynamic range just like on lumix S1 for example and that what can give you a log profile

[@fellowcitizen]

@@werem369 For sure, different options and avenues are better. Sigma always goes their own way, though, and has to prioritise since the team is small. There's a good chance that the FP successor will have some kind of LOG, from the remarks made during the fw2.0 release: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZ_WomaVj7CFjpY Since the fw2.0 release I've decided I'm almost certainly getting an FP eventually, but I went for the S-series as well for my first FF due to the versatility.

[@roygertel]

What do I care ! I certainly don't have a future !! 😩

[@bombthamrong]

👍👍👍

[@blarkdexture8899]

No but D700 has

[@Continuity]

6:01 8:30 9:22 13:19 💘

[@creativeleo]

Well I think your idea for this camera is that you're expecting too much from this camera which is not supposed to do all those things. I find your review very conservative you are expecting it to perform like old cameras while the industry has changed a lot. Even if it doesn't have the image stabilization, you can always hop on this camera on Stabilizers. Or Shoot like Pros... I know there are some flaws in this camera but it's a bloody beast you can do so much if you know how to use it correctly. After all camera is just a tool and all the output and creativity depends on the person.

[@philipbloom]

What a truly bizarre comment. A camera is a tool? Really? I didn’t know that. My review is actually what’s called realistic, I know the market VERY well and I know what it needs, in addition to what it already does, to survive in such an over crowded market with a 30% decline in sales each year.

[@symparanekromenoi]

Its doesn't do 6k to 4k down sampling in CDNG. The 4k is line skipped and the effects are magnified in 1080p with horrible artifacts. Also the dynamic range even in raw is not as good as from the other L mount cameras from Panasonic. Sadly we are still a longtime away from a true pocketable cinema camera.

[@symparanekromenoi]

@Matt here you go- www.slashcam.de/artikel/Test/Vollformat-RAW-fuer-2000-Euro--Die-Sensor-Bildqualitaet-der-Sigma-fp-in-4K-und-FullHD--Die-Sigma-fp-in-FullHD.html#Die_S You might need to translate it to English though

[@manchumuq]

No, it doesn't.

[@philipbloom]

Such a deep and convincing argument.

[@Stop-All-War]

Dynamic Range = to 14 stops +? Weatherproofing? Tilt screen? Menu, easily navigated? 2x SD Cards? Bracketing capability? Etc, etc. These are things folks who know how to use modern Cameras expect (generally). Video (imo) is a waste of time for me & millions of others if not being used..for example- Landscapers & Portrait Shooters. I've not used my video once, yet.