I guess I didn't realize how big that Flex battery was until now. Looks like a car battery hooked up to that impact lol. Great test 👊
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the 2.5/5 don't have high output cells so I had to step up to the 8.0 to match the M18 HO etc. I would never use that thing on the impact in real life, it's like a freaking boat anchor 😂. Thanks for stopping by Clint!
@randyross56303 жыл бұрын
40 Volt, now I instantly have Buyers Remorse! Like why can't I have the 40 Volt! Like why wasn't I told about this before!
@AntonioClaudioMichael3 жыл бұрын
Omg clint from @ToolReviewZone commenting on another tool channel whattttt he never does that
@reginalb1243 жыл бұрын
@@randyross5630 Unless you have need for something on that line, like the beam saw or that insane 3/4" high torque, I haven't seen any compelling reason to make the jump. The tools that are duplicated between that and the 18V don't really seem any better, but you will have to use a big battery. Like with Flexvolt, there are no compact batteries in the lineup. Unlike Flexvolt, the lower voltage line can't use the batteries.
@GuyFromJupiter3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they have those Chervon cooling sleeves on the cells that just make them massive.
@gabemckay67183 жыл бұрын
I had Makita 18v line for over 10 years XLT and BL tools. Switched to Milwaukee Fuel for the past 3 years because they are much more powerful. In the past 6 months though, I've been replacing my beat up Milwaukee fuel Gen 1 and 2 stuff with Makita Brushless tools. They are not quite as powerful but not by much. They are far more ergonomic, lighter and smoother and that's more important to me. I've always been impressed with Milwaukee power but as a carpenter, I find most of their tools miss the mark for precision work, smoothness and ergonomics. For me at least.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
I have a video on the different modes for this and the XGT hammer drill in the works as far as precision driving tasks. Lots of settings and options. Stay tuned!
@svn59943 жыл бұрын
Makita is not lighter, and not far more ergonomic.
@gabemckay67183 жыл бұрын
@@svn5994 compared to my Milwaukee tools, they are lighter. Ergonomics is subjective. That's why I said, they are more ergonomic for me at least. The shape and placements of handles, switches, size and shape is more conducive to how I work and my hands. Milwaukee's handles are larger, tools are larger and they feel clunky. They also tend to vibrate more which is a mild to major annoyance especially when doing finer detail work. Again, this is my personal experience. I have absolutely no stake in whatever tool you prefer. Buy and use whatever you want. I don't care.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
@@svn5994 Agree that the Makita isn't lighter, all of these drills are heavy. But I find it has much less vibration in the handle when using it.
@preston16142 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I think dewalt has the best trigger and the lightest drill but also the weakest. I have never ran a makita but the Milwaukee triggers are not as good. I also really like Kobalt triggers, they are a very affordable drill, perfectly capable with a nice trigger. After having dewalt, milwaukee and ridgid for years, my main set is the blue kobalts and they cost a fraction of what milwaukee does and I put them through a ton of abuse including loaning them to coworkers. My coworkers have been trying to break it but I think they have been surprised because they choose to use it more than the dewalt, ridgid or craftsmans.
@aaronj48602 жыл бұрын
my colleagues burnt through 4 Milwaukee impact drivers. I now use the 40v Makita and my 18v $100 budget impact from when I was a first year still going strong. also I genuinely think Makita has a much better feel. so at the end of the day the amount of work I have completed with the Makita compared to a Milwaukee is a massive difference and to me that is what matters. the reliability on site to complete the job.
@rotemtomhagbi19372 жыл бұрын
Carefull you'll upset the red army , and also if you look very closely flex looks like makita on steroids. Even the catalog pictures are the same
@sodapopgoldtooth2 жыл бұрын
My experience has been the same. I bought a Makita mid grade brushless combo.
@Bathtubcrocodile11 ай бұрын
@@AdirondackHomesteadI'm a Milwaukee kit owner. Circular saws and table saws are really bad imo. Better to go with Dewalt tbh.
@l00nybin3 жыл бұрын
Holy moly, the M18 is a BEAST!
@geoffstrickler3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to impact drivers, Milwaukee is the King of Beasts.
@TacticalThib3 жыл бұрын
Watch the gen 4 Milwaukee impact driver coming out in a couple monthes
@greenskiis3 жыл бұрын
@@TacticalThib Has that been confirmed? Haven't heard anything about it yet.
@TacticalThib3 жыл бұрын
Vcg construction has confirmed a new gen 4 impact driver this year
@Mik3yLow3 жыл бұрын
@@geoffstrickler Ridgid is doing away with the octane line and I'm looking for the next best and I'm kind of sad that this is it. Is the impact in the FUEL line more powerful? Or maybe an older model? I don't mean to sound like I'm hating on Milwaukee, I love their tools I own a LOT. But these are all incredibly weak compared to the Octane. impact
@__________f94333 жыл бұрын
I like these test, the Milwaukee is crazy, and yet looks the smallest of them all.
@djjd30273 жыл бұрын
The Flex and M18Fuel are neck and neck. The 40v Makita is like a diesel. Not fast but seemed pretty smooth with plenty of power.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
That's an excellent way to put it!
@theone68053 жыл бұрын
Diesel is smooth?
@ajs963502 жыл бұрын
@@theone6805 Yes, mine certainly is.
@ian9toes2 жыл бұрын
Power is defined as work over time.
@THE-HOLY-SPIRIT2 жыл бұрын
Well the flex must be a nitro then with roughness
@McFarrah3 жыл бұрын
I really like that you keep the comparison stats on the screen for each run. 🙌
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
@toolbox13 жыл бұрын
Bro your intro is outstanding. Great video. For older technology Dewalt and Milwauke are holding good. Flex results is very impressive for new contender.
@jascospeed3 жыл бұрын
That new Flex is HUGE with that battery! More volts bigger size, heavier and still couldn't crush the 3 year old Milwaukee. Flex marketing and certain youtube channels pushing this company hard. Good video brother!!
@nohcho843 жыл бұрын
True, all the shills on youtube (you know who you are) are on that Flex train rn
@Nick-oi8lc3 жыл бұрын
I mean the only way it's beaten by milwaukee is with ho batteries I'd say give flex some time to prove themselves as a first gen it's beating everyone else
@gagejernigan52773 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-oi8lc like foreal Flex is beating tool companies that have been perfecting their tools for decades
@nodoubt46able Жыл бұрын
@@gagejernigan5277 flex are heavy as shit, uncomfortable, and butt ass ugly....shewwwww
@davidcook21722 жыл бұрын
I am working with seasoned professionals who have 20-40 years experience and everyone has a DeWalt and everyone uses them everyday on metal studs and they all have had them for over 4 years plus. That was my decision. I was seriously thinking about the flex honestly but went with DeWalt and I am very happy with the quality.
@chrisschneiders6734 Жыл бұрын
Your probably right, but push dewalts to do handwork and there shit.. l have about 20 dewalt cordless tools so it's not like lm biased.
@gregorsamsa1364 Жыл бұрын
I've been a DeWalt guy for 20 years. I see no reason to switch yet. I have a DeWalt impact I've been running since I got it in 2013. Looks beat tf up but still performs. And their saws kick ass Admittedly, if I was someone running huge lags all day I'd be better off with a Milwaukee impact, but I'm not that guy. Thank god
@enockenock41833 жыл бұрын
As a Milwaukee M18 Fuel platform guy, I'm not surprised by these results. FWIW, those 21700 High Output batteries are total beasts and make a huge difference. Props to Flex, considering this is a Gen1 offering, so look for improvements there. Very unimpressed with the 40v Makita, "smooth" as it may be. Dewalt is still Dewalt, and that's not a bad thing. Kobalt wins bang4buck award...what is Lowe's going to do when their prosumer line (Kobalt) can directly compete on a price/performance ratio with their premier, contractor line (Flex)?? I'm gonna keep bleeding Milwaukee red. Philly, love your channel and your tests. Awesome video.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@enockenock41833 жыл бұрын
I might add, that it's not just the simple fact that Milwaukee has the H.O. batteries----the Redlink Plus technology engineered into the tool itself directly communicates to utilize the extra power. Milwaukee was ahead of the game on this. Dewalt FlexVolt has the same idea, but they're on too many platforms between FlexVolt Advantage, Power Detect, FlexVolt 60, etc. It can get confusing for people. Milwaukee has it all nice and tidy in one platform. Tried & true.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
@@enockenock4183 I wish all the platforms had something similar to the CP 3.0 HO or the Kobalt 4.0 Ultimate Output - compact but high output.
@enockenock41833 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyFixed, I'm sure the other guys are working on that. I've no clue whether or not patents are involved (???). Chervon, who owns Flex, Kobalt, Skil, and Ego, has amazing battery technology (at least in the Ego line). Like anything, it's a highly competitive business but guys in the trades (like myself) tend to go with what works for them and are usually pretty brand-loyal. I personally ran Dewalt for years (no complaints) but I switched to Milwaukee and it's going to take a lot to move me away from it. I have heard that Milwaukee is currently working on a 4.0 CP HO, which would be great.
@SweetStat3 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee is the raw power king, it’s more to an impact than raw power tho. There’s been some super unreliable high end impact drivers from dewalt. Makitas 40v and high end 18v are super great tools with some really useful settings. You won’t rly appreciate it unless you got some time with the tool, they also got an automotive fuse inside of them to protect the electronics. I handled the flex, but not enough to form too much of an opinion.they don’t have that high end quality feel and sound you get from the big 3, but it delivers plenty of power. Personally wouldn’t invest in their lineup, it’s not good enough for pros and can’t compete with riobi for homeowners
@cesarlomibao26623 жыл бұрын
That was an excellent comparison!!! Milwaukee came out on top without a problem. With an 18V, 8Ah battery against a 24V, 8Ah battery giving up 25% less volts, that’s pretty good in my book!! I thoroughly enjoyed this video!! Keep up the good work! God Bless!! Best Regards.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Cesar!
@clarkfos34473 жыл бұрын
I just wish the Milwaukee could maintain that speed and power for more than 10 minutes at a time at best without almost catching fire.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
@@clarkfos3447 This is truth right here. Working on a jobsite all day is a marathon, not a sprint.
@greenskiis3 жыл бұрын
Someone misleading in that the Flex is 24v Max while the M18 is 20v Max. Flex's nominal voltage is 21.6 while the Milwaukee is 18. Still speaks volumes about Milwaukee's engineering that they're still able to outperform these newer models and higher voltages while having been out for a good 3 years.
@MiikeyLawless2 жыл бұрын
I love how tools have gotten so overpowered that super unrealistic scenarios have to be thought up to find their limits lol.
@ian9toes2 жыл бұрын
150x6mm screws is a common task as a formworker and is sufficient to test their limits. From my experience the Milwaukee beats the Makita XGT
@histguy101 Жыл бұрын
@@ian9toes Well, it should. The Milwaukee has higher specs. I believe the gen2 XGT has even lower power specs. They're better for other reasons.
@OmgNoSubs3 ай бұрын
What’s interesting is that the Milwaukee drill that’s outperforming the Makita XGT is a Gen 2 drill, there’s already a gen 4 out which is faster. I use both Makita and Milwaukee and I love both but Milwaukee is always more powerful and can take it harder beating
@OmgNoSubs3 ай бұрын
What’s interesting is that the Milwaukee drill that’s outperforming the Makita XGT is a Gen 2 drill, there’s already a gen 4 out which is faster. I use both Makita and Milwaukee and I love both but Milwaukee is always more powerful and can take it harder beating
@andrewavellino64273 жыл бұрын
Wow you got Makita to lend you the XGT impact driver??!!!?! No shit! I gotta tell you, the quality of your videos and content, your level of testing,timers, editing, type of your tests and everything else is top notch, best of the best, and in my opinion beats out all other tool-tubers that are at the top of the chain, all they have on you is more time on KZbin, your quality content shows and it will reward you.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks Andrew!
@manujaen3999 Жыл бұрын
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. kzbin.infoUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
@elbabyboy203 жыл бұрын
That hex impact driver from milwaukee is the best in power in my opinion 👌 if you guys want power that's ur tool 🔥 M18 Fuel baby and wait for Gen 4 coming out soon 👀
@l00nybin3 жыл бұрын
I really dig the 80s Cyberpunk synthpop intro!
@McFarrah3 жыл бұрын
Definitely loved the intro too! Forgot to mention that in the comment I made on this video.
@edtheoldtechguy3 жыл бұрын
Power and speed aren't everything but I have to give props to that M18!
@derekbross69583 жыл бұрын
Great video. Your editing, presentation, and methods are top notch. Keep the videos coming. Glad to see the M18 put the Flex in its place for the most part. From what I’ve been seeing Flex has nothing on Milwaukee. Flex is going to have a hard road ahead of them to try and stay in the business in my opinion. No one who is running one of the big 3 is going to switch, and even if I were just starting out I wouldn’t go with Flex over the established brands. Amazing head to head Jim.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words, Derek!
@jdelapaz143 жыл бұрын
I just switched from milwaukee to flex. Been in construction for 20 years and I use my impact every single day. The milwaukee lost to the flex in this video. The test that put the milwaukee ahead was the one where the flex came in at 13 seconds which was most likely due to an unusually hard part of that trunk. In the similar test shorty before or afterward the flex came in at the same time as the milwaukee either .1 up or down. Any test with a trunk should be done with 3 to 5 bolts and then use the average. A better test would be to use a hard manufactured wood to give uniformity.
@derekbross69583 жыл бұрын
@@jdelapaz14 There have been lots of other videos out there that the Milwaukee beats the Flex as long as the Milwaukee has a HO battery on it. If Flex works better for you that’s great. I use my impact driver daily as well and I’m happy with my Milwaukee, along with all my other Milwaukee tools, and see no reason to switch. You did, which is fine.
@rickyperkins2323 жыл бұрын
@@derekbross6958 I use a impact daily as well and Milwaukee HO batteries starts at 8amp hours which isn't really practical for most users of impact, 5amp hour is the most and everything else up to 12 amp hour is good for stationary tools, circular saws, sawzall, hammer drills etc. I think the Flex is the best impact on the market especially when you are working with several different bits at the same time. The quick eject makes life easier and product increases. I am 100% a Ridgid fan boy but I am getting a few of these Flex tool and it they don't work I will make returns at Lowes.
@derekbross69583 жыл бұрын
@@rickyperkins232 The Milwaukee HO batteries do not start at 8 AH. They have a 3 AH HO, as well as a 6. I use the 3.0 HO all the time. And the M18 has been in videos with the 3.0 AH HO beating the Flex. But it all comes down to personal preference. Ford vs Dodge if you will. I’m not slamming Flex I just don’t think they had the right to claim they are better then everyone else before being proven.
@adamjolley6303 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the way you’ve structured this video. Great work mate.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Adam!
@ccbowers3 жыл бұрын
I agree with your point about testing vs real life use. The issue isn't just unrealistic tests like driving 1/2 inch lags with those impact drivers without an appropriate pilot hole, but that doing these tests promotes the wrong type of thinking about tools. I admit that they can be fun to watch, but the differences in power alone gets exaggerated by counting seconds in unrealistic situations, and the overall quality of the tool (ergonomics, reliability, vibration, control, quality of overall tool line, etc) gets overlooked. Those other things will outweigh the differences in power, at least within tiers of tool levels.
@KukosEQ3 жыл бұрын
So true. The job you are doing is for impakt wrenches, not drivers:\
@ALEXIS14141003 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what he mentioned towards the end of the video... he knows it. lol
@ccbowers3 жыл бұрын
@@janisuljas1462 Yes, but many viewers, and even channels, seem to forget this. You will notice if you read comments when one tool beats another by 0.8 seconds and ANY meaningful conclusions are made based upon that
@Kirko_bangz3 жыл бұрын
So what you’re saying is stick with my Milwaukee tools 🙌🏼
@plaid113 жыл бұрын
I didn’t ever hear or get any kind of impression that he’s trying to tell us what to go with. If you have a gen3 and you switch based on any test on KZbin because it gets beat by even a couple seconds on a few tests, it’s time to re-evaluate your life. All these video show is that Milwaukee will have to step up their game soon because if Flex improves their tools in the next couple years, they will pass Milwaukee in performance. Obviously there’s more to tools than just that. Many people like the Makita impact drivers because they feel better and do better with everyday use than the sometimes overpowered Milwaukee.
@VikingOlberg-NymoenOfNorway3 жыл бұрын
Someone got a little butthurted here i think🤣
@Fictitious_Character3 жыл бұрын
For impact drivers the gen 3 is a proven powerhouse. I like using the Makita XD16 because it is really comfortable in the hand and doesn't heat up like the 887, in the south in the summer heat transfer matters lol. Plus the XD16 doesn't sound as clackity as the 887.
@pl56243 жыл бұрын
I'll take the milwaukee 1st then flex.
@martylucas85573 жыл бұрын
That’s a great idea! The Milwaukee is Gen3 of their Fuel Impact. How’s the Flex going to hold up a couple of years down the road?
@chrisnunya53273 жыл бұрын
@@martylucas8557 couldn't say about over time, but I just got mine last week and I love it. Btw that lifetime warranty is mighty nice too
@georgedavall94493 жыл бұрын
Excellent Jim, even though I didn’t like the way Makita turned out! 🤨😠😁 DeWalt made a good showing, and there’s no getting around the fact the Gen 3 Fuel Impact is a rocket ship beast! If only Milwaukee would tweak the ergos! Metabo triple good all around and won’t mind a little rain and dust. Kobalt solid. Flex spewing fluid, don’t think it’s gonna hold up, despite its fine performances here? End of the day, which driver gonna hold up, not cramp up your hand, and the one you won’t mind picking back up the next day! Only each individual can make that decision. Like you said in the video, the Makita is smooth, and the ergos are solid on the Metabo and Kobalt. Like how you doing the timing Jim. Say hi to my home state! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😁😀✌🏻🇺🇸
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts as always, George!
@garretmacdiarmid72533 жыл бұрын
That flex with an 8.0 looks like rescue heroes feet
@martylucas85573 жыл бұрын
LOL! The majority of Milwaukee competitors are sporting oversized form factors/clam shells. Why is that? What if the Milwaukee tools were the same size as their competition, e.g. larger motor, magnets, etc...?
@liamflack19743 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅
@pepen2613 жыл бұрын
It's sad that know what you're talking about 🤣
@AntonioClaudioMichael3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao @Garrett MacDiarmid
@sergioserrato18543 жыл бұрын
Damn that intro takes me back to the 80's. Thank you
@joel94052 жыл бұрын
Bought in to the flex tools, happy to see they did well!
@toolhead1473 жыл бұрын
Great video! That milwaukee and the flex are beast. Just got mine in today we will see how they perform.
@elbabyboy203 жыл бұрын
What's up bud can't wait to check out your video 😁
@brotherbrad16173 жыл бұрын
Good video, thank you for doing the testing we can't do. I like to see the out of spec tests as it kinda let's me know how a tool will perform under normal use.
@caseyschmidt65323 жыл бұрын
85% percent of plumbers use Milwaukee or Dewalt. And inside of that percentage it’s usually 70-30 on Milwaukee side.
@J.Wick.2 жыл бұрын
It may not be the quickest out of the group (though not far behind) , but that Makita(18V XDT16 ) is a joy to use. It's super comfy in the hand and smooth as butta. I would love to see this test redone with the new contenders (MW Gen 4, Flex w/ Stack, Dewalt 840/850 w/ Stack, Makita XDT19, Makita 40V DST, Metabo HPT BOLT) That new Metabo is a beast btw.
@PhillyFixed2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. I still grab my Makita for remodeling. The only exception is if I'm doing a bunch of pretty large screws (e.g. timberloks on my deck). As far as the new comparison.... You just might get your wish!
@J.Wick.2 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyFixed yes sir. There are better choices for the big stuff. But for most things, it (XDT16) or an MHPT are what I grab. Awesome! Looking forward to it. DeWalt should have the new XR (840 w/modes-assumption) out soon too! Seriously though...Love that new MHPT BOLT.
@amerintex3 жыл бұрын
awesome video well done. I loved the intro as well. The dewalt did pretty good considering its 5 years old now.
@edtheoldtechguy3 жыл бұрын
Everybody is a Makita fan now! For good reason! Don't forget though I was the original old scbool Makit a lover!
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
I need to find the manufacturing date on my corded drill... haha
@edtheoldtechguy3 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyFixed Bro I have old corded and cordless ones too, sadly I even threw some out and gave some away. If you worked in or around low voltage, Makita was the drills given to us as technicians so I have been using them for a very long time. Great show bro! I personally wish 40v would have done better but in the end power and speed are not everything we all chose some brands for our own personal needs and wants.
@enockenock41833 жыл бұрын
Who says I'm a Makita fan now?? Lol. Nothing wrong with them, but it's Big Red all day, every day for me. 👍✌
@betods10133 жыл бұрын
Ed.....No one even knows who you are. LOL
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
@@betods1013 He's got 1.4k subs, so at least 1.4k people know who he is!
@AntonioClaudioMichael3 жыл бұрын
On some of these tests the flex is head2head with Milwaukee and on others the Milwaukee is way ahead nice testing Jim @Philly Fixed
@iloveknives753 жыл бұрын
Newly into the Metabo line, but I’m loving the triple hammer, definitely the most comfortable impact out of the 6 I have
@robertcasey35283 жыл бұрын
Hitachi. Metabo HPT. Real Metabo is German made.
@edtheoldtechguy3 жыл бұрын
Wow great show for Milwaukee!
@scottbionicnerf8727 Жыл бұрын
When you're using a spade-bit to drill/make a hole, it's always a challenge to do a clean-exit. The technique is to actually pull/hold the tool back a little bit just before exit, and get the rpms up, pressure down so that the bit has chance to gradually conclude (sweep/chip-out the circumference of the hole gradually.)
@ZoneCrasher Жыл бұрын
This is not about correct way to do things, it shows only who is the most powerful.
@taylorsand3 жыл бұрын
I thought your comment about "don't do this with your impact" was excellent. Great work!
@jay1st1st3 жыл бұрын
OK, so i'm living in the indian ocean, small island, and the US brands are unreachable in $$$$, been using Makita since the LXT line came out, changed a lot of brushes some bearings and they're still rocking. Now I've had a huge deal on a XGT kit, DFG001 + TDG001 + GAG005, with 2x 4.0Ah batteries, and i'm really impressed. More power, lasts longer on a single charge . The charger is not backwards compatible so i'm still hauling my LXT charger in the truck. But the LXT line is still amazing for me with all the different tools availible (and wife knows what i want for xmas and birthdays), XGT maybe in the future.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Love the LXT line! By the way, you can get the model # ADP10 charger adapter to charge LXT batteries on an XGT charger: www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/makita-18v-lxt-adapter-xgt-chargers-adp10
@kevinochoa52683 жыл бұрын
Highly recommend the xgt! Smoothest impact out there best imo!!
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Wait til you see the drill video!
@parkerhammond32582 жыл бұрын
Not extremely impressed with the 40v line of tools to convince me to switch from my 18v platform. Reason I'll stick with Makita until otherwise, they're extremely reliable, almost all their tools feel like they were designed to fit me for some reason, and Makita has the most consistent battery platform on the market!
@PhillyFixed2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big Makita fan. But Ryobi has them beat on battery platform longevity... LXT came out in 2005 while ONE+ came out in 1996!
@parkerhammond32582 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyFixed I don't really consider the residential/home owner brands just because they aren't what you would call contractor quality but i stand corrected as far as that matter! The top brands are all great but the drastic change in battery platforms have really been a big turn off for me (one of the main reasons I stuck with Makita)!
@ProxyFinal3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't run them on those big batteries unless I had no choice. My problem with the Flex is that it tries so hard to be the next Milwaukee. Makita xgt has better runtime. milwaukee beast mode.
@matinsandoval113 жыл бұрын
Did again with the intro!!!!! Love it man!
@robertburgard85883 жыл бұрын
I expected the dewalt to get drilled in this test (pun intended). I am just glad it didn't end up in last place.
@pudo37923 жыл бұрын
i think its funny how all the impacts make the screen shaky except for the makitas. They really are smooth and comfortable tools!
@J-WHO3123 жыл бұрын
love the old school intro
@jriv4543 жыл бұрын
I’ll take the Milwaukee first, that one didn’t require a lot of pushing down to get it done.
@kentuckybeardsman3 жыл бұрын
Love that Intro!! Those DeWalt flexys are huge!!!!
@jl93623 жыл бұрын
Im hoping you have a drill battle coming soon with the 40v xgt with electronic clutch
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir!
@8bitsamurai62 жыл бұрын
Love the 80s intro. Whata with the best tool reviews out of Philly. Guess cuz great blue collar Town.
@joshsworld82192 жыл бұрын
its not about how fast the tool preforms but how durable the tool is and how long it’s life span is. a few seconds on driving screws won’t make any difference unless your driving 1000s of screws a day.
@meagaindave20493 жыл бұрын
Not once, again, not ONCE have I EVER had that "what's wrong with thing?" moment using Makita. I have a few times with M18, and it looked like FLEX could potentially spill it's lubricant over time. 🤷♂️
@as-nz2vl2 жыл бұрын
I have makita 40v and i absolutely love it.
@codyfrancis44742 жыл бұрын
Makita has never let me down. They have the best drywall gun and cut out tool hands down so it is my brand of choice easily
@SmokiesDen3 жыл бұрын
That Milwaukee is going to be hard to beat. The offer still stands to borrow a metabo hpt 36v hammer drill /driver if you need one. I have 9 of them in my storeroom just sitting sealed new-in-box that I got for the rebate when they were on clearance at lowes. For ~$55 I couldn't resist.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
I actually picked one up for the upcoming hammer drill testing! I got a good price reconditioned... I didn't get it for $55 though, that's awesome.
@baseballdude84913 жыл бұрын
My Metabo HPT hammer drill is ridiculously more powerful than my Milwaukee Fuel-I would love to see it compete against FLEXY-just don't break your wrist
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
@@baseballdude8491 It's coming!
@Apinp183 жыл бұрын
Smokey I’ll buy one off ya
@thepewplace13702 жыл бұрын
Geez the Milwaukee and Flex really massively outperform the competition. What I can't figure is their differences in driving the lags (I guess the oversized lag was a self protection mode on Milwaukee that the Flex doesn't have, but still).
@chrisschneiders6734 Жыл бұрын
Seen it many many times with my own eyes and hands, Milwaukee murders dewalt when the going gets tough.. l own dewalt.
@cajunice35883 жыл бұрын
That flex hammer drill with the turbo is pretty beastly
@jathanrademaker92743 жыл бұрын
No surprises here Milwaukee will rule every test with flex right beside it
@rjakiel733 жыл бұрын
The intro is awesome!
@russellsickler59613 жыл бұрын
Man, the smoke plume on the 3/8 lags out. I need these tool companies to do slomo promos with that. Also, I’m really glad I bought into the Milwaukee lineup. I was on the debate last year, and have gotten both the m18, and started snagging some m12 tools. I do low voltage work, but it’s great to have for general purpose stuff.
@PostUp_Time3 жыл бұрын
*GLAD ADDED METABO. BUT WHY DOES EVERYONE OVERLOOK THE RIDGID TOOLS. THEY ARE GREAT. THEY ARE SLEEPERS IN THE BUNCH OF TOOLS. JUST LIKE HITACHI HAS BEEN FOR YEARS. PLEASE CONSIDER ADDING RIDGID NEXT TEST. THEY TOO HAVE A NEW LINE (Octane Line now surpassed) GREAT VIDEO BTW*
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I will have Ridgid coming up, as well as comparing Octane to the new "Max Output" brushless line!
@michaelthornton70023 жыл бұрын
Deep impact? Lol You going to make a second channel about what to do when you get sued for trademark infringement? Good video. Keep them coming.
@ajgreen868 Жыл бұрын
Crazy that Kobalt can keep up with and even beat some of these brands. Way to go Kobalt!
@AntonioClaudioMichael3 жыл бұрын
Which triple hammer from metabo hpt is it jim the 18v or the 36v multi volt hard to see NVM looks like the 36v model @18:40 @Philly Fixed
@misha0303023 жыл бұрын
Awesome intro! Would still choose my Makita
@luigigreen9823 Жыл бұрын
Dewalt is by far best all around value. When used in real world rigorous scenarios its very efficient and will take a beating better than any other. Can't beat the yellow and black
@ProToolsApproved2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I ever spent a day on site trying to run fasteners quicker than anyone else. Factor in the ergonomics, the tech(special settings) longevity of tool and battery, and it's much harder to compare these tools. I own them all(still waiting for my xgt to arrive, and my XDT16 is japanese direct model) they each have their place, but I reach for the XDT16 or MetaboHPT Bolt more than the rest. Not including 12v impacts.
@rickyperkins2323 жыл бұрын
That Flex is the beast man. @phillyfix your intro is better every time. I hope you getting paid soon for your videos because of you I realized the Flex Sawzall is the saw that replaces my Ridgid sawzall. I love all my Ridgid tools and I am a fan boy but I can't take the reckless vibration going through the palm of my hands anymore.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ricky! I started monetizing the channel but I have a long way to break even on the tools purchased. Torque Test Channel took 6 months to break even!
@baseballdude84913 жыл бұрын
The Metabo HPT sawzall is better than the flex in many ways Power, multiple speeds, lowest vibration, 36V runs much cooler, and all the 36V line can be plugged in to AC adapter, lifetime warranty(for all yrs/not just first yr like flex)
@rickyperkins2323 жыл бұрын
@@baseballdude8491 do you own one, the big thing for me is the vibration in the palms but it has to have the power of the Milwaukee Super sawzall or better.
@baseballdude84913 жыл бұрын
@@rickyperkins232 I have the super sawzall with a 12.0 battery and two of the Metabo HPT 36V recipes They are significantly more powerful and have state of the art vibration control Had them for over two yrs on jobsites and have held up well and for big jobs we have used the AC adapter for all day runtime when needed so the batteries will also last much longer for their lifetime
@AntonioClaudioMichael3 жыл бұрын
Little disadvantage for the dewalt on the last test the timer was started before the tool 20 or so seconds early @17:40 just wanted to point that out Jim @Philly Fixed
@AntonioClaudioMichael3 жыл бұрын
@@marcosluis421 not sure what your comment has to do with mine but okay
@89dhvac3 жыл бұрын
Crazy the Makita 40v didn’t do better...and crazy how inconsistent the flex is
@Fictitious_Character3 жыл бұрын
I believe the 40v 2.5hr batt is 18650 cells so I expected it to be marginally better than the 18v Makita and it was running against some beefy batt options for the other contenders. My opinion is when it comes time to saving a employee a couple seconds per use sounds great but those seconds will still get squandered while they crap on company time lol.
@enockenock41833 жыл бұрын
@@Fictitious_Character, if Makita is going through the R&D process to make a 40v, WHY not utilize 21700 cells? That's a question for Makita. Seems they dropped the proverbial ball on this one.
@EVnewbie3 жыл бұрын
@@enockenock4183 I would assume they will but probably have issues getting those cells initially. I also wonder why Makita won't upgrade the 18V line using 26650 LiMn cells, they can punch 32 amps constant, 64 amps surge and have 3400mAh capacity per cell. A "super duty" 18V 6.6Ah with 64 amps constant/128 amps surge is 1.5 horsepower (1,150 watts) constant and 3 horsepower surge (2,300 watts) Sure, the packs would be really thick but no wider and I'd love a 26650 6.6Ah pack for my 36V X2 trimmers so I can really beat the pack at the highest speed. Of course, blow off LiMn and go for the Tesla 4680 9Ah NMC cells for a portable welder.... :D
@np-bl7qc3 жыл бұрын
I watched this to see if the Flex was worth it. After seeing how big it is, I don't even care. Now I want the m18.
@reaperreaper50982 жыл бұрын
@@enockenock4183 Price, weight, and availability. Those 40V batteries take a minimum of 10 cells, so they can't make anything smaller than the 2.0/2.5Ah batteries that run the 18650s. Which is fine, they pair those batteries primarily with the drills, impacts, and stick vacs, tools where you would want lighter batteries. The 4.0Ah also only has 10 cells, but they're 21700s, and you can see that it's a chonkster in comparison. They pair that with their Recipro and circle saws, rotary and demo hammers, and grinders.
@hunterhunter69752 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!!!!! Milwaukee fans 💪
@hunterhunter69752 жыл бұрын
I use Milwaukee for Contruction it seems like there is a trigger problem, all my Milwaukee tools r the new ones the FUEL
@steveocirinooo87033 жыл бұрын
Love your video & channel. Philly! I’m subscribing!
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Stèveo!
@aircommuter3 жыл бұрын
I gave up on Makita when my worm saw stopped and I took it apart to fix and it had plastic gears.
@mexicant7773 жыл бұрын
That was a great video! Keep em coming
@delosaurasrex7323 жыл бұрын
Great video...Not too shabby...👍👍
@kaizen78523 жыл бұрын
nice review there brother keep up the good work
@3vil3lvis3 жыл бұрын
Nice 70's Neon flashback graphics! Did you drill pilot holes for the lag bolts in the log segment of the video?
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Nope, no pilot holes. Definitely a torture test and not real-world.
@papabear463 Жыл бұрын
I am a dewalt fav myself but can’t go wrong with anyone of them
@LaigledeMeaux Жыл бұрын
I've been watching several videos compairing the 40v makita with the 18v makita and others. Both impact and hammer drill. On first seeing that the 40v was even a thing I was like, "who is this for? Isn't the power going to be crazy compared to the 18v? Would it just snap auger bits and driver bits?" But after seeing all these videos I came away with a completely different mindset. The 40v is neck and neck with the 18v in many tests, there are some (like with the hammer drill) that the 40v does outshine the 18v quite handedly, but it doesn't look like that was what makita was going for. Instead, it looks like they wanted a new battery system for their bigger tools, rotary hammer, right angle drill, lawn mower, etc. Before they had the 40v line they had options to use 2 18v batteries for the bigger tools to give more power. Now that they have the new system, it looks like they are trying to make it so customers will only need one set of batteries. So if you want all the big boy tools that utilize the 40v (or 80v) to their full extent, you can still have the more moderate tools like the impact driver and hammer drill without having to lug around 2 sets of batteries. I don't know if this was the intent because I haven't seen makita, or anyone else, talk about it, but it makes the most sense to me why the 40v is not leaps and bounds ahead of the competition, or even its 18v cousin.
@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын
I saw some interviews at World of Concrete the year the XGT line was announced where Makita reps said exactly that -- focus on heavy construction tools that previously required gas or cords, but make everything available on the platform for convenience.
@paulhughes39613 жыл бұрын
I don't expect anyone to jump on the Flex bus, but there is no denying the Flex was very close to the Milwaukee . Give Flex time to show if is a reliable tool and see what improvements they come out with over time.
@trentroberdeau63993 жыл бұрын
...and the Milwaukee has been around for three years... proven and still out performs
@djjinerson3 жыл бұрын
Love the intro 👍
@Aladinscave3 жыл бұрын
I never use drill bits for drilling holes on my impact drivers that’s what the combi drills are for it does it better ( I know this is just a test I’m just saying) I have the Makita 40v and I’m really happy with it I actually run it on setting number 3 out of 4 most of the time because it’s to powerful so don’t understand why it’s not doing that well in this test? It will actually sheer of the hex on 4 if provoked ……
@cwd12323 жыл бұрын
Awesome work man! Great vids
@akaredcrossbow3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! 👍🏻👍🏻
@FunAtDisney3 жыл бұрын
A couple thoughts: First, I wish you would have weighed these because I kept thinking at what point in time will you need a brace just to hold one of these tools. The Flex is ridiculous and I mean that in a bad way. A bigger heavier battery is not always good. So you get a 1-second better time, is that worth the fatigue after using it for a few minutes? So thank you for pointing out which tool has the best ergonomics in your opinion because that is a huge factor. Secondly I was in my local Lowe’s today and I got the biggest laugh in a long time. The Flex tools were there….. A tiny display at an end cap with ZERO tools out on display (whereas the Skil tools have double the space, a larger sign and have tools out that you can hold. No big section, no huge sign, no tools out. All that after the big buildup and hype!
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
My local store (Oaks, PA) STILL doesn't have ANY Flex tools in-store!
@orijimi3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, your endcap isn't the legit result they're moving to. The "reset" hasn't happened yet.
@FunAtDisney3 жыл бұрын
@@orijimi Probably true, but they never moved the SKil tools from the end caps (maybe they will as well). And I do think that Skil could possibly outsell Flex just because Lowe’s caters more to homeowners and DIYers than HD does.
@johnmorrison6426 Жыл бұрын
I like the 40v but I'm so happy with 18 and 36v got a lot of money in it
@travissmikle25078 ай бұрын
Those numbers are a huge difference. Even if its a second or two faster with the Milwaukee, in my line of work that would be a big gain for me as i will be fastening over 150 screws at times. With those 2 seconds or more adding up to 5 mins or more, i would be home and in the shower vs still working at the job site if i was to use some other tools.
@baseballdude84913 жыл бұрын
Let's get it on
@01snoll3 жыл бұрын
Any chance of getting the new Ridgid brushless impact driver and comparing it to these ones?
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
I'll see what I can do! (Read: Afford 😩)
@01snoll3 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyFixed I hear ya on that! I love my ridgid tools and am trying decide if I should upgrade to the new impact and hammer drill kit. I've seen videos on the new hammer drill vs others but haven't seen anything anywhere comparing the impact and I'm interested in it's speed/power against the competition now. I appreciate and thank you for all your efforts! May God bless you and your channel.
@OUTILSCLIPSQC3 жыл бұрын
Very good test fun to watch and well made love my milwaukee tool i think they are the best
@skelley5213 жыл бұрын
I was researching the Flex driver, but now I like the 40V Makita. The Makita seems more innovated with it's technical settings.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
I do like the options on the Makita -- although, to be honest, I think they may have taken it a bit too far. My old Makita has 3 speed settings and I was always happy with that. On the XDT16 -- identical modes to the 40v -- I rarely use anything but the 4 speed settings, the assist modes are almost never on. The only one I use, if ever, is the wood mode where it slows down so you don't overdrive the fastener. But if I'm that concerned about overdriving, I switch to a drill and set the clutch or modulate the trigger with my finger.
@skelley5213 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyFixed As a Industrial Mechanic (Millwright), I look at the tools for use on machinery and equipment that has many different size bolts. Using a battery tool is much nicer than using hand tools, but wondering if the tool is over or under tightening fasteners is a gamble as no one wants to drill out broken bolts. I'm in the process of choosing a battery platform that will make mechanical applications not only easier but also produce quality work. The General Contractors provide many battery Red & Yellow tools on the job site. We build Power Houses; Chemical Plants and Car Plants, so I've used those brands enough to know I want something more. Most tools seems to have adequate power now days, but being able to tune or fine tune the power for a specific application only makes the tool more versatile I think. Thanks for the reply and I enjoy your view of tools and your presentation. Keep up the great work. Subbed. :)
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
@@skelley521 That's a great argument for the bolt functions the Makita provides! I think the XDT16 is the right tool for you. Honestly, the 40V line is really made for heavy construction -- the standard impact driver and hammer drill and other light-duty tools are really just included in the XGT platform so that users of those heavier tools don't need to have 2 battery lines on the jobsite.
@engdarfatgalalyelectrical10762 жыл бұрын
It was useful information, thank you very much
@46739623 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the new Ridgid impact would do. It just made a new record on Shop Tool Reviews. That was done with a 2 amp hour battery. Everyone that has reviewed it has liked it. Not too impressed with the mitabo or the makita 40v. You should stick in the ridgid in your reviews.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
I will do that! 👍
@jimkane9832 Жыл бұрын
How does an impact wrench compare to these for the same lag test?
@josuetorres54353 жыл бұрын
Great video love it.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rickyperkins2323 жыл бұрын
@@PhillyFixed question if the Flex & Milwaukee are faster impacts how much vibration in the palms do you think they contribute compared the other impacts?
@martinkolew24193 жыл бұрын
Try the same wood test with impact wrenches, really curious in the bosch 18-1050 i don't know if it is available for you, but it will be nice to see.
@PhillyFixed3 жыл бұрын
I will do impact wrenches soon! Hammer drills are next...
@softwarephil1709 Жыл бұрын
Milwaukee and Flex are in a different league from the others.
@giovanysantiago75623 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee gen 3 is still the king of impact drivers.
@matthewtrenhaile58583 жыл бұрын
Except the collet is a liability. Which bumps it below both the 40v makita and xdt16
@SlashAFD10003 жыл бұрын
They’ve fixed their collet. They put a second ball bearing in
@dustind2923 жыл бұрын
Best intro ever.
@AntonioClaudioMichael3 жыл бұрын
Love the intro
@aubertbethencourt32413 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or this video seems like a 1980's MTV music video opening