Philippine Navy Candidate Frigate For Horizon 3

Six potential candidates for the Philippine Navy's upcoming Frigate Phase 2 Acquisition Project as part of AFP Modernization Horizon 3 phase.

[@bryandiel3606]

Navantia's Alpha 5 would be great specially if TOT is involved! 32 VLS is awesome for our PN!

[@llanciousluyor9059]

Transfer of technology must be our top priority. Not freebies

[@digger9384]

The best option is the cost effective one. And because the primary rule was a coastal and territorial defense.

[@phil_nebula676]

Just some minor correction on the HDF-3800 0:24 to 1:04. Looking at the model, it only has 16-cells VLS, not 32-cells as, mentioned. Also the PN upcoming HDC-3100 has 16-cells VLS with potentially space for additional 16-cells, while displacing 3,200t fully loaded. Which I expect to see a follow-on order with some improvements. Although it's best to wait for the PN to published its requirements, I think 32-cells VLS should be the minimum with the ability to quadpacked 8 of them with short-to-mediun ranged SAM for a total of 32, while the remaining 24 are dedicated to Long-range or ABM SAM like the SM-2 or SM-6 equivalent. 8 SSM should be the minimum while having space for 16 SSM if needed, a single CIWS preferably Missile-based like the RAM , 2 30mm RCWS, 2 triple-tube torpedo launcher, and mounts for small arms such as 7.62mm or 12.7mm machine guns. As for dimensions a larger design should be preferred. But will depend on cost and the final requirements!

[@chrysllerryu4171]

they should downgrade the status of rizal class into corvette, and BUY 6 new REAL HEAVY FRIGATES

[@jakejake8921]

I think they will, when two bigger corvettes arrived..

[@jeromegutierrez9297]

Dpat talaga gawin corvette yun dahil maliit. Then ung frigate bumili na lng bago ung malalaki na pwede mkipaglaban malayo sa phil shores.

[@phil_nebula676]

I think that is the plan the plan once the delivery of the 2 HDC-3100 Corvette is made, the JRC will be Re-classified. I'm not sure what the hull classification will be either PS as with the BRP Conrado Yap (PS-39) or FS, which I preferred moving forward. Example: BRP Jose Rizal (FS-150) BRP Antonio Luna (FS-151)

[@vhoisarmiento3972]

Jose rizal frigates must be changed to Jose Rizal corvette flight I and HDC 3100 shall be called Jose Rizal corvette flight II

[@MonkeyDZuki]

Actually that was the plan of the Phil. Navy after acquiring at least a 5000 ton destroyer type Class Frigates, at least 3/6 units of it... Then re designate the 2 units of Rizal class to Corvettes after up grading it's armaments to full equipped missile capable warship. Then acquire additional units of HDC-3200 Corvette class to complete a 12 units of it, Then after that acquire at least 2/3 units of a Navantia or Damen Offered Frigates with Tech. Transfer too, so we can build our very own warships locally... Coz the HHI deals are without tech. Transfer deal, we just choose HHI due to cost effective and freebies reasons only, so after acquiring enough missile capable warships that practically cheap, we should consider getting a warship deal that can give as a long term solution in terms of warship production, to supply our Phil. Navy more modern and missile capable warships in the future.

[@reycobasanez5016]

Wow ang ganda ng meko A210 at malayo din ang range higit sa lahat heavilly armed.

[@edgardolemque7214]

Good choices, but does the government have the money? Already having a difficult time acquiring used ships.

[@eduardoquirino8131]

Remember, RP is on a tight budget. A well built warship that is affordable like HHI, will be formidable as long as it's missiles, torpedoes are great and deadly. If Korea has been building good ships, why spend more hundreds of millions of dollars for a European built of the same standards, Use the money saved for the best missiles and torpedoes.

[@MonkeyDZuki]

I totally agree!.. Why spend more funding on a very expensive warships, if we can acquire the same missile capable warships in a cheaper price? At least we can acquire as muchwarship as we can if we do get the Cheaper but has the same power and capability as well...

[@TheLance1391]

Australia Austal or HHI is better choice.. since Austal has Shipbuildng in Balamban and they could potentially develop here with Transfer of tech, and also good for economy and gdp for the Central Visayas..

[@kerbytamares6403]

HHI din ang makakakuha ng contract nyan, pareho lang din naman ang specs ng Korean ships kumpara sa mga European builts, mas mura pa.

[@misha791]

Austal/Navantia in Cebu for the next Philippine Navy robust acquisition of Frigates more jobs for Filipinos and will boost the shipbuilding economy in the Philippines- powerhouse and young smart labor force. They can also ask for Spains EDA of modern M113A2 4OO units as package EDA agreements including very close cultural ties with Philippines and Spain.

[@Ryan-he2qz]

I like to try navantia si ce they are partnered with austal which already in philippines. Giving jobs to more fiipinos. And if granted transfer of technology that will beef up the advancement of

[@Harldin]

Any of these would suit the Philippines nicely and a couple of them would certainly improve the PN. Any such competition would not come down to who has the best Frigate, but who can offer the best terms and offsets, the best training, logistics and support solutions.

[@PHMalaya]

price is the number 1 factor

[@franz9039]

Hindi naman.natin kailangan bumili Ng mga warship kung magtitiwala.lang ang ating gobyerno sa mga shipbuilder natin sa anim na frigate na gustong bilhin Ng ating gobyerno sa Isang taon tapos lahat yan.bigyan Ng Isang project bawat shipbuilder may plano naman Yan na sinusunod sa paggawa Ng mga warship.

[@TheBongReyes]

Well, as seeing the current modern frigate the Philippines recently purchased. All these potential frigates can easily mirror the limitations of the Antonio Luna & Jose Rizal. Ships that were originally designed with VLS & CIWS but ordered without either. I get it. Most people think the Philippines just need coastal and territorial vessels. Well, if a certain neighboring nation continues to encroach further into Philippines territorial waters. That nation isn’t coming with coastal vessels.

[@better.0]

You are still planning to choose a heavy ship (but not necessarily buying one) while your neighboring country has already built it and it's just a matter of time. My brothers, don't take too long choosing and immediately urge your government to buy it, a real threat could come at any time

[@meanbumboy3108]

walang price?

[@reggieballares3804]

Bilihin na natin yan lahat 4 to 6pcs each.

[@ayamayamblackwhite3190]

Lahat yan bilhin nyo , oras ang crucial at critical ngayon , pag isa lang pinili nyo ilan lang magagawa ng manufacturer nila ?? 1 - 2 sa loob ng ilang taon ! Pag lahat yan binilhan nyo ng tig 5 units ay da loob ng 2-3 taon ay medyo may pandepensa na tayo . Wag maarte at wag patulog tulog sa pansitan!! Mangutang kung kinakelangan basta importante makapaghanda sa lalong madaling panahon !!

[@PHMalaya]

Depends on our politicians well

[@serpapstvblog]

Ang rizal class is corvette lng talga yan kung titgnan yung standard internstional navy ships standard

[@lapasaran13]

We need to know what kind of missile and Mac speed of the missile it should be higher speed of 2.8 mac to 4.5 Mac speed weather Exocet or THAAD or Brahmos within the quadruple luncher surface to surface missile also the VLS system what missile and speed along with it's AD Surfaced to surfaced missile and direct to line of sigth target missile .

[@obigarcia7772]

You need to know eh? Then read up

[@josecorazon.bautista]

Its good also to have even one amphibious assault vessel design since if the mission is China, its too far from the Phil, so we should go nearer

[@obigarcia7772]

There is going 'nearer' as there is no going after China and operations in Chinese waters. The Constitution prohibits (offensive) war as an instrument of national policy.

[@JB-cj9wy]

best option will be affordability

[@LeoSuniega-lw7pj]

Germany 32,vertical launcher ,16 anti ship missiles

[@jaydenmende2295]

I choose japan heavy frigates..,

[@cashcowkids5441]

Rizal class ginawang super light frigate sana wag nga downgrade para mas maipagtatanggol ang bansa

[@Nee19258]

Budget meal palagi, yung capability tuloy ng mga warship, limited

[@Nee19258]

Yung dalawang paparating na Corvettes mas malakas at mas capable pa😅

[@MonkeyDZuki]

Inaming nga ng Phil. Navy ang pagkakamali ng paraan nila ng pag acquire ng Furst Frigates natin, kaya nga binago nila ang procurement plan sa Acquired Corvettes ng Phil. Navy... At sya na ring gagawin sa planong pagbili ng 6 units ng brand new 5000 tons na Frigates, fully armed na at wala ng FFBNW scheme, para after delivery e, commissioning ka agad for combat missions, ng ang poproblemahin na lang e yong maintenance at armaments ammunitions at munitions din... At least combat ready na...

[@TheLance1391]

Australia Austal or HHI is better choice.. since Austal has Shipbuildng in Balamban and they could potentially develop here with Transfer of tech, and also good for economy and gdp for the Central Visayas

[@ayamayamblackwhite3190]

Lahat yan dapat bilihan ng barko tig 5 units kung gusto natin makapaghanda ASAP , bawal maselan at mapili ng sobra pag emergency at oras kalaban .

[@rexsonacuno4225]

I choose is navantia Australia is the best frigates

[@Noel-to9kf]

The best advance weapons buy Philippines

[@thedesk954]

Sigma 1. What a name 2:45

[@r_ic7]

What we needs are heavy destroyer( Sejong. )

[@r_ic7]

6 Destroyers are much better aginst bully. !!!!

[@PHMalaya]

Depends on our Politicians well

[@robertkho7280]

Wala bang Destroyers sa H3?

[@PHMalaya]

Frigates

[@enzostrikervincent]

That German ship is a badass

[@Harldin]

Its also nothing more than a paper design.

[@optimega]

Damen Sigma,just the right size and have 32 VLS,problem with Koreans they will downgrade the armaments and techs to fit the budget and a 16VLS is a no go.

[@batangpantalan4638]

Mogami Class

[@clintonfrivaldo2203]

#BongBongMarcos #DND #PhilippineNavy

[@jestonipagunsan8090]

NAVANTIA (Alpha 5000) or DAMEN (Sigma 12516) pls minimum 6 units of this vessel will be enough.

[@PHMalaya]

Hopefully in rehorizon3

[@alejandropalima4935]

Navantia maanufacccturer is the best for Phil.navy frigate

[@jolieytv]

Sa horizon 3 na frigate yung sigma class para ma iba naman

[@princecor2108]

Gaya gaya nalang tayo sa Indonesia😅

[@umu8934]

Only Japan Mogami class frigate is the most sophisticated one out of all in the video because of it's radar mast unicorn integrated sensor.... The next one is the Damen ship ther rest is okay ship nothing special

[@better.0]

FYI: the first Asean country to be offered the mogami class by Japan was Indonesia, and Indonesia also already has Damen Sigma (and is currently building the AH140/type 31). I hope that our neighbors buy quality ships like Indonesia does, so that they can ward off interference from Chinese ships. we must protect each other for peace

[@user-in7fk9sz6j]

Dapat bilhin na LAHAT Ng mga iyan dahil paruho langyan mga malalakas na warships mixed kahit tag 5 units bawat brand niyan pagnakumplito LAHAT yan marami na tayung warships at dagdagan nalang meko A300 . At mga destroyers warships

[@djago1891]

Wow Sana all May budget😂

[@user-in7fk9sz6j]

Ang hirap sa pilipino hindi maari na walang budget iyung masamahirap nga nabansa nakakabili mahirap lang kamo mag apruba Ng nasa gobyerno piro sa mga project nila trillion Ang bibilis mag Aproba Kasi andududon Ang kurakut

[@obigarcia7772]

Even if there was a budget to acquire from all of the shipbuilders featured here, there are problems - that of training and logistics. Different systems ensure different training requirements for operational crews and maintainers while different onboard systems will complicate logistics

[@reggieballares3804]

Phils. Buy 2pcs each design.

[@marinettemamiit7666]

Ins magen is the best candidate for frigate..

[@obigarcia7772]

Why do you think so? Is that based on looks alone?

[@regorflora7915]

We cannot compete againts china ship per ship. Subrang dami nilang barko nag aaksaya lang tayo ng pera sa mga barkong iyan. Sa halip ay bumili nalang tayo ng medium range tactical nuclear missiles at e base sa palawan. Ito ay mas mura, less personel required, less maintenance, at hamak na mas effective deterence against china keysa mga barko.

[@MonkeyDZuki]

Ok po yan, pero mas effective ang deterrence ng Pilipinas kung, meron tayong LBMS at GBAD's at MLRS systems sa ating Shore lines at least MR/ LR systems, at several warships na merong Missile capability to literally confront and deterr any aggressions while being back up by our Missile system and gave security if Aggressors try to intimidate or bully our warships due to lack of numbers...

[@tab529]

Just buy 60 Nos Jose Rizal Class fully arm all with CWIS VLS Torpedos ,then 20 Nos Destroyers similar to Japan Destroyers with Aegis System add 60 Nos Fast Missile Attack Patrol Boats The above will be sufficient from 2026 till 2050

[@princecor2108]

In your Dream😂 dalawa destroyer nga di kaya 60 pa kaya

[@humpreygarduque8220]

MAHAL ANG DESTROYER WARSHIP...$ 2 BILLION ISA..

[@MonkeyDZuki]

Merong mura yong sa Japan na $400 million lang isang light destroyer, at yong sa SoKor na worth $900 million lang din. Pero parehong may firepower at combat capability na pwedeng katakutan ng PLA Navy ng literal. Yon pwede tayong bumili at subukang makakuha ng tech. Transfer deal kahit sa Japan o sa SoKor para makagawa tayo locally ng mixed force ng Frigates, Corvettes, at Destroyer class para sa Phil. Navy.

[@TheLance1391]

Increase the Defense budget by 5% Modernization to protect international waters, 1% will be for research and devwlopment.

[@anselmoubalde60]

Just the same hhi 3000 ton ships with cannon, nothing else

[@Garden_FarmLovers]

Money money money

[@PHMalaya]

Lack of politician support

[@user-pc8ji1xn2g]

Bumili n po' kayo ng pinakamaganda

[@jovitoalamag8962]

FULL OF PLANS TO ACQUIRE BUT WE ALL KNOW IT'S ALL TALK AND PLAN BUT NOTHING HAPPENS JUST LIKE THE MRF PROJECT THAT IS OVER 20 YEARS NOW AND STILL FULL OF OFFERS. ALSO THE SUBMARINE PROJECT THAT IS OVER 50 YEARS OF PLANNING AND EVEN TRAINED A CREW BUT NO SUBMARINE CHOICE UNTIL NOW

[@PHMalaya]

Lack of politcal will

[@maxchannel1117]

Yes go go go mabuhay PH PBBM GOD BLESS YOU

[@johnaaronsilvano4243]

Feel q South korea na naman yan

[@MurderPierrot]

S. Korea parin makakakuha nyan.

[@PHMalaya]

More likely since SK HD Hyundai plan to invest in former Hanjin shipyard

[@clarobesenio9731]

ang bagsak nyan ay sa HHI at maLabO makuha ang mga frigate ng japan, germany, at austriLia😂 aLam naman natin ang pinOy Lagi tipid sa budget kaya tipid din sa armas ang ship na nabibiLi or kuLang sa armas kaya parang pinagtatawanan ng chekwa ang ship natin kaya ang Lakas mambully😂😂😂

[@packohub1145]

WALANG PROBLEMA KASI MAGKAPAREHA LANG NAMAN NG RADAR , WEAPONS YAN ..

[@obigarcia7772]

What's a 'closed-in' weapons system? why is it closed and not open? hahaha

[@ricardoreyesjr7750]

HHI na nmn yan halos parepareho lng nmn sila armament at capabilities eh..mas mura ang korean warship may freebies pa at para commonalities na din ng mga barko ng PN.

[@PHMalaya]

HHI have advantage in rehorizon 3 aside from they bulit the warship during phas1 and 2 they will also invest in the formee hanjin shipyard in subic

[@pepebeboso9433]

Habang hndi pa mga yan nahhawakan Ng pH navy Hanggang pangarap nlang ang pinas😅😅😂

[@arnelllandelar9815]

Puro na Lang po Balita Wala Naman nangyayari nakakaumay na🤣🤣

[@LeoSuniega-lw7pj]

Puro South korea,freebies lumang Pohang

[@serpapstvblog]

Wag nman puro korean made may mga mass magaganda pa na halos di nman nag kakalayo ng presyo...tignan nila sana yung mass malkas na armaments...

[@renecollado3476]

Japan is the best offer

[@louie-dee]

Feeling ko sa Japan talaga sila kukuha ng warships

[@Nee19258]

@@louie-dee Dapat lang, para sakin, yung Japan talaga yung isa sa pinaka trustable ally ng Pinas, so its only right na bumili tayo sakanila ng mga mlitary equipments

[@packohub1145]

​@@Nee19258PROBLEMA SOBRANG MAHAL NYAN ..

[@user-iv5xm8gh9b]

PAY THE 203 BILLION PESO ESTATE TAX OF THE NARCOSES AND RETURN THE BILLION OF DOLLARS WAR REPARATION OF JAPAN FOR THE ACQUISITION OF PHILIPPINE NAVY SHIPS AND COASTSGUARDS.

[@obigarcia7772]

War reparations from Japan already done, my dear. The only thing to do s for Congress to step up defense spending to at least 2.5% of GDP. Sadly the 2024 Philippine budget allocates 500 billion for 'ayuda' but the DND did not receive the budget it asked for. Now THAT is absolutely moronic