Phoenix Arms HP22A 1050 round observations

[@mikebaldwin4517]

Sir, you have produced the most comprehensive video EVER on the Phoenix Arms 22A! (Comments from a very satisfied 22A owner)

[@ajcj1970]

Thank you. I appreciate that. Hope it was helpful.

[@rickeybullington6314]

@@ajcj1970 all parts will wear over time in any gun 🔫

[@rickeybullington6314]

@@ajcj1970 this would not be a 150.00 or a 165 gun if it had parts in the gun as a glock or smithwesson gun . That s why it's the kind of gun it is .

[@rickeybullington6314]

@@ajcj1970 i just got me a new one. And I can tell you I will do these things to mine. I don't have the kind of money to buy me another one if the gun doesn't work any more. I want to be able to seen it back to the company.

[@rickeybullington6314]

@@ajcj1970 i curious will it hurt the gun if I use sae 10 w . 30 motor oil synthetic blend motor oil to oil the parts in the gun. Just wondering.

[@2bearms]

I've had mine for nearly 19 years. Love it. Shot thousands of rounds through it, and it's been great. Customer service is awesome. Sent my slide in for service, and it was lost in the mail. Phoenix arms sent a new slide completely free. Wasn't their fault in any way. Takes a little getting used to with the extra safeties, but once you get it down it's second nature. Great gun and a great price. Great video. Thanks for sharing

[@jackmeoff2396]

Loading a quiet round first in the mag is a brilliant idea. Thank you.

[@vincentwilcoxen6176]

I’ve been wanting a small 22 for plinking and just picked this gun up new after some research so I knew what the issues were. I’put 100 rounds through it and now fully understand those “problems”. Of the videos I’ve watched, yours offers the most info in a no nonsense professional manner. I appreciate that.

[@tulsavol6653]

I also appreciated the organized video: pic illustrations + pic notes was really nice. The pace of the narrative was just right. The whole presentation of the info was outstanding. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and info on the handgun. I just purchased the HP22A with 3" and 5" barrel included.

[@cylo11]

One of the best videos on KZbin for knowledge about the HP22A Thank you!!

[@joed7593]

Doing that voided the warranty if you add a piece of cut paper clip under the bar gives enough clearance to eliminate that safety you can remove it if needed

[@2adave]

They’ve got great CS. Walked into their factory to buy a couple springs and was given extras because I walked in to buy them. Can’t remember the name of the lady at the front desk name but she was super helpful and friendly.

[@appreciativeobserver4732]

Your video deserves MUCH more than 145 views. I would go far enough to say that anyone who owns this pistol SHOULD BE REQUIRED to study this EXCELLENT video presentation..

[@ajcj1970]

Thank you. I appreciate that.

[@dangerdylan5005]

25k baby woo hoo!

[@vinmat3558]

Very comprehensive video. Thanks for your careful work.

[@lemix69]

I really enjoyed your content. You seem very knowledgeable about this firearm and I find that refreshing. One thing I hate more than anything, is someone making a video on something where they don't even know the model number of the firearm they're supposedly reviewing. I just watched a review before yours where the guy didn't even read the model number correctly off the box. There was a scuff mark on the box over the model number, but not enough for me to be able to read the model number, yet he called it the HP22R instead of A, then later, he didn't even know the capacity of the magazine. Like you, I did a bunch of research before purchasing this hand gun and I haven't even received the gun yet, but I already know the magazine capacity, the proper model number, the take down procedures and the parts I should buy for proper upkeep as well as what ammo to run in it. This is largely because of people like you, who share their knowledge, so people like me can have the best possible experience with this firearm. Thank you!

[@medianetwork777]

Phenomenal! This is by far the most informative review of the Phoenix Arms HP22A .22 pistol both from technical and ergonomics perspective. Well done Sir. 👍

[@Joe..3.8.0.9_]

Just purchased two of these and thank you for the video , very knowledgeable

[@eastguntucky9268]

The little screw to the mag for last round lock back of the slide works like a charm 👍

[@nickd1961]

Best review I've seen on this pistol. I have one myself and will be buying some parts for it. I just found out if you buy the .25 caliber barrel, slide and mag you can convert it.

[@markedman3990]

I've had this pistol for 2 years. For the $$ it's a great plinking gun. I bought all those same parts shortly after getting mine. Haven't had to use any yet, except the recoil springs. This was a great instructional video for anyone who's purchased this gun. I like the CCI Quiet method of protecting the firing pin...i have 2 boxes I thought I'd find little use for...but now 👍

[@paulgonzales3116]

My first phoenix Arms HP22 was black. Liked it so much bought a silver one for my son in law. Great video. I'll tell my son in law to watch this video several times and learn how to work on his HP22. Thanks.

[@jw-sigp2258]

Great video. I actually do a few videos on HP-22 on my channel. It’s good to see others enjoying the HP-22 and doing videos on them. Thanks for sharing.

[@celowski6296]

I stumbled onto this vid. I bought mine in 2011 for $130. Yep, that's what it's worth. I have a cracked frame, divot in the hammer, numerous recoil springs I went through. And yep lotta feeding and extracting issues. I just bought more parts for it. Good thing their cheap!! This is a VERY,VERY good vid!! But in conclusion, it is a good budget "emergency" gun. Thanks for all the good info.

[@za9462]

Maybe you got a lemon, it happens.

[@250rapid]

I purchased the M*Carbo HP22A Trigger Springs Kit which gives you about 35% trigger pull reduction. This kit include a lighter sear spring and lighter trigger return spring, plus an extra power recoil spring, which is more stronger and with more spring tension than the flimsy factory recoil spring. Once you replace all 3 springs, you'll be surprised of the lighter, smooth trigger pull. I don't work for M*Carbo or making any $$ out of my comments, I just recommending this kit which makes an excellent upgrade for the HP22A or the HP25A.

[@albertsanchez2027]

I bought the same Mcarbo spring kit and to be honest it made almost no difference at all. I installed it on one of my hp22as that i had shot over 2000 rounds with.

[@drjcw]

Great video. Have owned one for several years....love it! Just lately started having issues, and this video tells me to order some replacement parts. Have fired 'Many" thousands of rounds with no issues. I guess it is just wearing out a bit. Thanks!

[@1947froggy]

Best Hp22 vid so far, kudos Froggy

[@ajcj1970]

Thank you.

[@dennishelferich8335]

Absolutely awesome video. I have had my HP22A about two years now. Mine looks exactly like yours right down to the grip sleeve. I trust my life to this gun as I pocket carry it a lot. My wife loves it because it is one of the only guns I own that she can rack the slide on easily. All I have done to mine was the safety mods you listed to make it function like any other gun. Thanks for the info.

[@GoonLife___]

where do u get the grip sleeve

[@dennishelferich8335]

@@GoonLife___ Hi. I bought it at my local Cabela's

[@thedreamsoldiers]

Looking to get my first pistol. This is the one for me 😍

[@couerleroi1]

Well, finally someone making a video who know what he is talking about. Thank you Sir

[@michaelbuerhaus8409]

Wow! Thank you for your very thorough evaluation and diligent foresight for additional parts to purchase. I am going to get one now. 😊

[@hipeople9388]

Just bought one. Iv got several other "edc" options but since walmart and a hand full of other stores frown apon a full size gun i carry both. 22 in my pocket and a 9mm or 44 special on my side. Great tips and mods. Have done both the "safety" mods already but i like the idea of the subsonic last round works great.

[@sakelaine2953]

This is a very thorough and informative presentation. Thank you for taking the time to make it.

[@bolshoibooze8010]

Bought mine in 2006. The firing pin finally gave out and misfiring...but a little tac weld, filing and polishing to add more contact with the worn out hammer it's good to go again. Mine doesn't seem to like aguila standard or anything hot above 1050fps at all.

[@user-tp9gy8kt2q]

This is the best video yet made on the Phoenix HP-22. Concise and comprehensive. I have owned my Phoenix for several years and still really like it, and I completely agreed with all the points you made. Due to all the particulars, I always thought this pistol would be better suited for more advanced shooters that could appreciate the peculiar safeties, and manage them. New shooters should probably try other rimfire handguns first - the Heritage mfg Rough Rider revolvers are great, but you might need to Loctite nearly every screw first.. Rough Rider revolvers have a tendency to loosen screws just by staring too hard at them..

[@lbrown7164]

Great idea with that subsonic round

[@Sandwebbspider]

Thank you for sharing and all the great information. I bought one today at a gun show and can’t wait to break it in .👍

[@ajcj1970]

Glad the information was helpful. Be safe. Have fun. 😎

[@TheGearGatherer]

Great review! That last subsonic round is genius 👌🏼

[@TwinGunz]

This is the most underrated firearm ever. I have at least a thousand rounds threw mine, did the much needed mods and it is extremely reliable.

[@onceagain227]

Only thing stopping me from getting this is... All my ammo is high velocity.

[@TwinGunz]

@@onceagain227 I carry it with mini mags, but just bought a few packs of standard for practice. In my opinion it’s ok to shoot , hi velocity once in a blue moon. Just not all the time. I’ve shot mini mags in it twice just to make sure they are good to go

[@mikewelch3903]

Just bought mine 2 days ago. Then I ordered the 5” barrel and case.

[@sammyprestwood3182]

I bought one of those little guns over 30 years ago when they were actually double action handguns the hammer and even the trigger on that gun can actually be remanufactured using stainless steel it is a cool little gun the only trouble I've ever had out of mind was when you tried to clear the gun you had to be real careful make sure it ejected around cuz lots of times it wouldn't in that case if you didn't really check it or was it careful it would still have a loaded round in the chamber so you hadn't really be careful with that little gun but other than that I never had any problems with it

[@phuffman3671]

I'm using the M*Carbo springs. They seem to reduce the recoil impulse a bit more than the factory springs. The Aguila standard pressure is best performing in mine. Thanks for the tip about making the first round loaded in the mag a lower pressure round. It definitely keeps me from firing on an empty chamber.

[@GBall_Vision]

P Huffman I got the MCarbo springs too. I’m having a hell of a time getting the pin out for the trigger spring. It will only allow so much movement from my hammer and punch and then it stops

[@GBall_Vision]

Do you have any ideas on how to get that to go the distance I need it too and did u have any trouble like that

[@rbm6184]

Great video and very well presented. I am the guy that modifies the mag follower with a pan head screw. Your way works also but one round short is not that critical to me since this is a practice, small game, and range pistol. I do not use it for defense unless it was all I had since rimfire ammo is not reliable enough with common misfires. I agree about parts inspection and recoil spring change after every 1000 rounds. The old recoil spring is compressed considerably shorter than the length of a new one so it for sure needs to be replaced when it gets that short. I do add a very tiny amount of gun grease to slide rails and wear areas to cut down added wear on those friction hot spots. I mostly shoot either CCI standard velocity or Federal Auto Match in mine both are in the factory rated velocity. Thanks for sharing.

[@ajcj1970]

I’ve watched your videos a few times, very interesting. I didn’t mention your channel because I never know how someone will react to that, or the legalities. I appreciate the comment. There was a gentleman, some time ago, that sold a “last round hold open” magazine follower on EBay but has since disappeared. In world full of 3D printers you would think someone would be selling something like that. I also tend to use grease on firearms that are not in my EDC rotation. If you use grease on an EDC firearm it will collect a tremendous amount of debris. CLP and other “oil” lubricants will tend to run off, when grease will stay where you put it.

[@cntrshot1]

I've had pretty good luck with this using the extended baseplate mags and the 5 inch barrel. It's my first pistol so I wanted something that could use as a trail pistol, backup defensive gun and a varmint pistol

[@gracewthomas]

What an awesome video and finally someone who knows how to talk English and make sense ! I boudht two of these Gems , one black and stainless and then I switched the slides so that I would have 2 two tone versions of this Gem ! Please more videos Alan Thomas

[@MrSmith-ok7tl]

Excellent review! I just inherited one, and enjoyed your thorough video detailing use and maintenance tips. I may buy another one, and use them for backup, when out boating and general plinking. Thanks.

[@RevGunn-jq3cq]

I love that little gun. I have it in 25 & 22, both have been modified

[@7jrel7]

Great job of covering so many important issues...THANKS!

[@russbilzing5348]

I got mine with about 200 rounds having been put through it. I've found that Federal standard solids work well. I'm thinking of getting the 5" barrel for 'just because'. Seeing the softness of the hammer, I intend to oil harden it. Failing that, case hardening it would be next.

[@jerryrigger3040]

Another good video. I got one when I started concealed carry, just wanted a 22 until got comfortable carrying. Yours seem to be a much better build, my first range trip was spent banging the slide back into battery for all 50 rounds. First fix was to literally file the top of the hammer down over 1/8" where it was dragging on slide. Next was order stronger recoil spring and the safety parts to modify so I could keep the original unmodified. Ran mostly cci minimag with no issues. Traded it for a larger caliber pistol, and the new owner was still happy with it 2 years later. May get another one.

[@theslowride66]

Great Video Thank You. I've been carrying one of these for 20 years . Accurate ,Light ,Dependable , I just purchased 3 more. I paint the Safeties Green & the Fire's RED .I know this gun & I know if someone were to get it away from me they would not figure out how to fire it before I can get it back. Furthermore its gotten me out of a few jambs. Brand New Guns ,No Bodies on them , their not just for poking holes in paper ( Can do that with a pencil)

[@jestomacco1594]

My friends laughed at me when i brought it to the range. After the few mods i did too it they were AMAZED! of how well it performed. They tried it and were having a good time with this little 🔫.

[@kennethseibert5711]

Have you tried stretching out your recoil spring when cleaning it; to get more use out of the spring?

[@ajcj1970]

I have not. I’ll keep that in mind. Thx.

[@oddballschtuff]

I wish this was my experience. Fun for the money, but anything but reliable. Pretty impressive that you fired 380 rounds with no issues.

[@albertsanchez2027]

I cracked the frame of my hp22a after shooting about 1400 rounds of remington golden bullet. I should have read the manual. I ended up buying a used hp25a and modifiyng the barrel of the 22lr to fit on the 25acp frame. Ive shot about 500 rounds of aguila standard velocity 22lr through this setup without issues.

[@ajcj1970]

The lifetime warranty should have covered the cracked frame as long as the firearm wasn’t modified. I’ve heard stories of people having their entire firearm replaced at no charge ( most likely said that they were using the proper ammo ). This is the first I’ve heard of someone modifying a 22 lr to fit a 25 acp, very interesting. I personally think that the Aguila 1130 FPS round is the best round for this little pistol.

[@albertsanchez2027]

They were going to cover it but fedex wanted to charge me $75 to ship the gun to phoenix arms. I only paid $45 for the hp25a including the ffl transfer so it came out cheaper that way.

[@ajcj1970]

Yeah, I can totally understand that.

[@GiorgosC-rp5ms]

@@albertsanchez2027 man phoenix paid for my shipping they sent a pre paid package

[@markbrown7449]

@@ajcj1970 was sent a brand new gun !

[@za9462]

I love mine, for the price it’s a great shooter! It’s accurate and reliable as far as 22 goes. I’ve even bought extra recoil springs, a firing pin and firing pin spring just in case. You get one hell of a wallop for your dollar buying this fun little shooter. Only downside is the safety’s are so redundant and unnecessary. For the money you can’t beat it though.

[@frankbrowning328]

Great tips in this video. What kind of accuracy from the bench can you get at 15 or 25 yards? What is the trigger like? Have you weighed the trigger pull? Any videos available showing trigger mods?

[@ajcj1970]

After reading your comment I measured the trigger pull, it’s a consistent 5 1/2 lbs. The trigger actually feels really good, slight take up, no creep, definitive wall. I never actually shot this pistol from a bench rest, but I will say that shooting it offhand at various distances, I am actually pretty impressed with the accuracy and that’s without the extended barrel. I’m not aware of any trigger mods, I would imagine polishing the trigger components would improve the trigger pull.

[@frankbrowning328]

@@ajcj1970 Very good for an inexpensive little pistol. Thanks for the video and feedback

[@KillTonyClipz]

Ive shot roughly 1000 rds through mine with cheap Winchester mostly but i have recently found a love for cci velocitor rounds, ive shot only maybe 100 so far through it due to the ammo shortage in my area so i need to conserve but i have found it runs flawlessly

[@user-tp9gy8kt2q]

530-scan, be careful with that higher velocity stuff - I would use it very sparingly, and only with a fresh spring, like the man said. These Phoenix pistols are made of Zamek, not steel, and they can't take the abuse and punishment steel guns can take. Not trying to be a know-it-all or busybody, just looking out for you.

[@son-my8rb]

Great content the Phoenix is good firearms for the price parts and ammo are also Affordable

[@jackpalance9509]

? I've had one for 8 years getting a little pitting spot in my feed ramp. Do you think warranty would cover?

[@ajcj1970]

Not sure. Can't hurt to try

[@JoeZ-et1pr]

Good review.

[@lilladyo2cute414]

Hello, thanks for your review. i just bought this from a friend. When I took it to the range, i noticed that as i shot it was kicking the mag out causing it to jam. Any clue how to fix that?

[@ajcj1970]

This issue is new to me. My first guess would be, the way you grip the firearm, you might be hitting the mag release while operating the firearm. Try firing the weapon with just your right hand (or in a manner that nothing is anywhere near the mag release) and see if you still have the issue. My next thought would be a possible worn out mag release, depending on how many rounds have been put through it.

[@waynehajek6346]

Excellent review, tips, and summation. Well done!

[@martindelrosario4786]

Great video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and suggestions.

[@TheBlackLionNetwork]

Great content I just purchased one and now feel like I know so much more. Liked and subscribed👍🏾 thanks!

[@nelackey]

This is a very informative video ... clear and concise. Thank you.

[@jdom01354]

Thank you! Im looking to get one..

[@rhllnm]

I love this gun. No problems with the safety issues. I prefer revolvers for the safety aspect, especially for daily carry.

[@RobertD_83]

Excellent video, very thorough and concise. Thank you very much for the info.

[@ScottWiecenski]

I have an HP22A, and when I put on the long barrel, it wiggles up and down relative to the frame. The short barrel doesn't have this problem. Any ideas?

[@astraltraveler257]

excellent video, thank you! just ordered mine.

[@phaethon4595]

Great review and great info for a new owner, much appreciated!

[@joeylopina]

Great video on the HP22A. 👏🏽👏🏽

[@aidanwalsh2606]

Mine must be built with all the luck then because I've put just over 2000 rounds into it, and it rarely misfires or fails to eject ive also found that it can run surprisingly fast up too 600 rpm

[@squirrelatwork]

Have you had any issues of the magazines baseplates falling off?

[@ajcj1970]

I have not. This is the first I've ever heard of this issue. Are you letting them hit the ground during reloads? If so, they could have been damaged in some way. Do you have one that functions properly? If so, compare, see if there's anything different. sorry i couldn't be more helpful.

[@squirrelatwork]

@ajcj1970 I have the original flush mount and the extension mag I bought separately. I don't drop those mags. I used it 3x and I loaded it the other day and the extension base plate fell out

[@ajcj1970]

My first thought would be that the after market base plate is defective in some way. Any way you can return it for replacement, then see if the problem continues with a new one.

[@Nate_HarietteYouTube_Adventure]

Mine loves remengtion target and thunderbolts

[@BamBam-ur7sf]

Thank You .

[@user-in3mg1sg1w]

Thank you sir. How's it running 3 years later?

[@ajcj1970]

I don’t get this one out as much as I would like but it’s still running great. Haven’t replaced anything but the spring.

[@jamesbranham2217]

I have one.. haven't shot it a whole lot but happy with it.. no wear yet only a couple hundred rounds max.. but as neat as these are I would think they would use even higher quality parts and charge a little more.. 👍 but I get it keep prices down

[@MTGbecausewhynot]

Thank you very much for this very informative video.

[@chrisswezy5506]

great work my friend thats one good review do u like the 25 caliber version

[@jorgepadilla4053]

Thank you for the information love the video thank you sir

[@mikeofmanymikes2630]

Perfect firearm for novice, easy to work on, cheap parts.

[@ajcj1970]

Totally agree.

[@abrategiovanni]

Excellent review. Thanks for sharing!

[@deere3321]

The CCI quiet idea is a good one. I've been using a spent shell case which works, but the quiet round is a better idea.

[@williamrutledge8367]

Good job. This is a great pistol for the price from a company that takes that extra effort with their customer service. I had done the same modifications that you mentioned before seeing this video and it was reassuring to see yours. I had already ordered a couple of extra magazines from the company and was very impressed with their response times. Will be ordering the new slide springs now. The only thing I did different was in addition to using red fingernail polish on the “Fire” lettering I put white fingernail polish on the “Safe” lettering plus a white dot on the safe position of the trigger safety. Just to make it easier on these old eyes. Also a white dot on the front sight and two white dots on the rear sight giving me three white dots for rapid target acquisition. Thank you for posting.

[@capnbly]

I like putting a subsonic round, as the last round!

[@ogarzabello]

Excellent vid!

[@kinggideono.b.k.a.o.i861]

Great Job, very (INFORMATIVE)... DUN'KA...

[@Five0]

I enjoyed your review. Thanks.

[@dannyrodriguez7325]

Cant find a inside belt holster for this gun. Will it fit under a different gun? Looking for one like you have in video @AJC

[@outlaw6849]

I got a lot from this video, Thank you

[@megaman010391]

I broke my hp22 around 1800 rounds or more. The slide cracked on one side. The frame cracked on both sides in the middle of it.

[@ajcj1970]

I have a few questions, for research purposes. Did you replace the recoil spring around 1000 rounds? Where you shooting high valocity ammo on a regular basis? Did you try contacting the company for a free replacment?

[@megaman010391]

@@ajcj1970 yes I replaced the spring after 800-1000 rounds. 70% standard velocity ammo and the rest 1200ish velocity ammo. I contacted the company yesterday I'll wait for them on Monday to see what they say. I don't live that far from their factory so I might just drop it off if they say it's okay. And most shooting was done with the 5-in barrel.

[@ajcj1970]

Thx for the response. I’ll be curious to see how you make with the company, please let me know when you get a chance.

[@megaman010391]

@@ajcj1970 So Phoenix Arms got back to me, they said unfortunately since the frame is cracked, it is "unrepairable". I asked what else can be done? They advise just not to use it anymore at all. 😭🤣 That's all they wrote. Basically nothing can be done.

[@ajcj1970]

So, they didn't offer to replace or sell you a frame?

[@kibble5071]

Very good video, sold me on getting one

[@royshobe6642]

Thanks for making this video

[@guaporeturns9472]

How’s it holding up?

[@ajcj1970]

Don't get to shoot it as much as I should but it's still going strong. No failures.

[@guaporeturns9472]

@@ajcj1970 nice .. thanks

[@alleycat1117]

Great video.Thanks and God bless

[@PeterLigeti]

Excellent video

[@flyprincess69]

I took mine out the other day and had several failure to fires. I’ve never had this problem before.

[@ajcj1970]

How many rounds? Is the indentation on your hammer getting deep?

[@flyprincess69]

@@ajcj1970 ive had the gun for several years and might only have 500 rounds threw it. Always shot flawlessly, now its the worst.

[@flyprincess69]

I will have to look. Don’t have the gun with me right now.

[@V10GROOM]

Very useful video, thanks. Mine is on the way.

[@AB-kg6rk]

Very monotone but intelligent and excellent info!

[@Joe..3.8.0.9_]

Humm Have my 7 years 900 rounds later , not one issue . Have my other one bit longer , after four years sent it to P. Arms and they gave me brand new gun . Life time warranty..

[@aaroncortez8347]

Just purchased one in each color

[@GoonLife___]

what grip is that

[@jerrysmart6109]

Sorry if I missed it but where did you get the rubber grips for the hp22....

[@ajcj1970]

It’s a Hogue rubber grip handall jr. small size grip sleeve. Got it off of Amazon for around $9.

[@jerrysmart6109]

@@ajcj1970 ....Thank you. Oh great review I have two hp22's and bought one for each of my 3 grandchildren.

[@Surreal6969]

Ah ! nice looking weapon.

[@ronnguyen8287]

Damn. What state?

[@Surreal6969]

@@ronnguyen8287 Ah! My man. We don't play in the Midwest.

[@88Heckenlively]

Wow. You stopped a criminal - kept yourself safe - and probably saved the criminals life w/smaller caliber. Hope it taught his wounded ass a lesson.

[@Surreal6969]

@@88Heckenlively if it didn't the next caliber maybe higher.

[@petermonck5448]

Very well done. Thanks. 🇱🇷👍😎

[@ajcj1970]

Thank you, I appreciate that.