Phonak Lumity vs. Oticon Real Hearing Aid Comparison

Phonak Lumity vs. Oticon Real Detailed Hearing Aid Comparison.
Doctor Cliff Olson, Audiologist and founder of Applied Hearing Solutions in Phoenix Arizona, compares features of two of the best hearing aids of 2023.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:38 Hearing Aid Styles
02:51 Rechargeability
04:13 Custom Earmolds
05:34 Technology Levels
06:29 Programming Capabilities
08:31 Digital Features
09:53 Datalogging
10:13 Customization Capabilities
11:15 Bluetooth Connectivity
12:58 Smartphone Apps
14:48 Phone Calls
15:21 Durability
15:47 Accessories
17:13 Final Thoughts

[@justicecenter]

Great comparison. The thing that’s sad is none of these features matter if the audiologist isn’t capable/knowledgeable with the product. I believe it’s time for manufacturers to require audiologists be trained with their products before being allowed to dispense them. Also the audiologists be required to have specific equipment and software in their practice in order to achieve maximum prescription targets for patients, making real ear measurements mandatory in fittings. Just like car dealerships are required to have certain equipment from manufacturers to perform maintenance services.

[@meric12131415]

Actually I do agree on that point though at minimum they should have a test box you know?

[@nataliel2853]

@justicecenter, I agree with all of what you said. It is not enough just to have the degree. Practices should be required to meet minimum standards including a testing box and real ear measurements.

[@mmarjisr]

one would think that an audiologist has the knowledge need to do all this on hearing aids, bu I guess it's like everything else their too lazy to catch up on new haring aids or too busy when call they have to do is google them or call the Manufacturer, and I think it's better to call the manufacturer to get accurate detail because it would be more beneficial for the client and the audiologist because the audiologist will get more customers needing hearing aids

[@StrongbowTX]

My audiologist recently left the practice to become the regional field trainer for Phonak. I'm sadded by this as she gave me great service and was really good about relaying my bug reports to both Oticon and Phonak, and getting back to me with fixes. I guess that shows why Phonak was ready to offer her the position.

[@skeetdog58]

I tried both for 2 weeks each. In noise, like a restaurant, the Oticon real is so much better in separating speech from background noise. The lumity is not even close. In a quiet environment they are similar.

[@garybombardier9256]

I just got a pair of oticons and love them.

[@markjohnsonfaia]

I recently bought Oticon Real 1 hearing aids. My audiologist recommended them when I asked about music quality. I also read Apple Music has the best music streaming quality, if you’re looking for a huge music library to choose from. Last week I bought a new Sonos Era 100 speaker to complete the system. Oticon, Apple Music, and Sonos have given me hearing I had 30 years ago! My home office never sounded so good! I appreciate all the collaboration in technology to overcome hearing loss.

[@ceciphar]

How is the Bluetooth quality?

[@kennethwoolard5910]

I got my Phonak Lumity from the VA Medical Center! They have helped me a lot!!! Great Dr at the Hampton VA too!

[@leeh9420]

I like the thoroughness and lack of hype - much appreciated!

[@canuhear2]

Nice comparison job, Dr. Cliff

[@bevintx5440]

Thanks! This is exactly what I was wondering about.

[@bobbray4696]

Thanks for your video. I have the P90 lumity. I would rather the hearing aids corrected the hearing loss as much as possible. Kind of like how glasses work not a 100% but close. Then there really wouldn't be a need for Bluetooth functions or streaming. Definitely like these options they do help. Hopefully there more advancement in hearing corrections. With either aids or regeneration. Your videos an other's help us make informed decisions.

[@lydiaorcales3254]

Great comparison. Ty!

[@amazingloveism]

You speak good and fast I understood every word and my background is Chinese👍

[@m_damer]

The video made me more confused which one I should choose!

[@hotshotkeven]

This is a good comparison between Phonak Lumity and Oticon Real. I'm on my 3rd set of Phonaks over the past 12+ years or so, Audeo M currently, and it works well for me but it's draining the batteries very fast now. My audiologist just recommended the Oticon Lumity and we placed an order for a trial. After watching this, I realized that the Phonak is the winner with Android. I'm a Samsung diehard. No matter how good the aid, I'm not moving to Apple. Thanks Dr. Cliff!! One of my main criteria, for any aids, is that as a "hugger" I don't want the constant feedback. The current Phonak Audeo M won the purchase about 6 or 7 years ago!

[@palmer426]

Thanks for another great video. This comparison is just what I was looking for. I have been using 4 year old Resounds from Costco, and I thought with my profound hearing loss that either the Oticon Real or Phonak Lumity would be a major improvement. Right now I am doing a 2 week trial of the Real 1 (my audiologist doesn’t know how to set the demo units to Real 2 level), and then I will try the Lumity. So far the Real 1s do, in fact, provide me a much broader soundscape - I am literally hearing things my old aids ignored. And I like the seamless noise suppression a lot. Driving with the window down is actually possible now. However - and this is a BIG however - the Oticon app is absurdly impotent. The ONLY adjustment possible is volume. That’s it. So, I should spend $4,000, $5,000 or $6,000 (that’s Real 3, 2 + 1 pricing in my area - your pricing may vary), and be able to control no more than pushing the physical buttons on the aid? Just like you did 10 years ago, before apps were a thing. Not me. This video points out that many millennials buy the Real 1 because of its “natural” soundscape. Sure they do - show me a millennial that would tolerate the Oticon app. I won’t, and I’m 72. For example, last night at a live music venue the left aid was positively screeching and I had no way to adjust it. Except by lowering the volume to the point that the $6,000 Oticons did nothing at all. Thanks a lot Oticon! My old Resounds use an app that I downloaded 4 years ago and has never been updated - unheard of in the app business. However it provides MUCH more on-the-fly control, and, of course, it allows me to tune in the most pleasing soundscape and save those settings as a personal program. I just hope that the Phonak gives me better sound quality and better control over that sound, or else it is back to a manufacturer that is largely ignored these days. Because of the app. Period. Thanks again for the vids - they are truly excellent!

[@nataliel2853]

@palmer426, I hope you add comments about how it went with the Lumity. I have the Lumity right now but it's my first hearing aid and I have severe/profound loss in the high to high-mid frequency range and I use an Android phone. The Phonak app has many adjustments, I just don't know how to appropriately use those adjustments since I am new to hearing aids. Also, I am really liking the ActiveVent as a person who spends most of my leisure time in nature.

[@palmer426]

​@@nataliel2853 I will, except the loaner Lumitys my audiologist had were broken, so still waiting for a replacement. Many people don't need to make adjustments, some do (like me). The Lumity 90 will auto-select the best program based on where you are, and that is an excellent feature. More to come, hopefully.

[@albertcatalan7382]

I am very much interested in following up with your experiences with these two latest devices. I'm just 3 days right now trying the Oticon Real 1 and will also be trying the Phonak Lumity 90 afterward. One of these will be my first HAs.

[@gsp49]

I miss my ReSounds, they were superior to the Phonak garbage.

[@gsp49]

​@@nataliel2853I have given up on the Phonak App, most of the time it does not work. Very problematic.

[@michaelparsberg2]

Apple Watch compatibility for Oticon Real was released last week. With the Companion update. Also there is a 1.4.3 firmware update available. Probably released after you recorded this video. Good job btw

[@daodoan3596]

Dr. Cliff, I saw one of your hearing up providers here in San Diego CA, Dr. Linda Oliver and she was professional, knowledgeable, and fantastic Audiologist. She followed best practices and completed the REM for my hearing aids. I am so grateful of having Dr. Oliver as my audiologist and the quality of care she provided was exceptional. Thank you Dr. Cliff for your informative videos that changed my life. Thank you

[@JR-br8du]

I have an appt today with that office!

[@watermain48]

I'd sure like to see a comparison between either of these (or both) and the new Starkey Genesis AI.

[@johnfindlay5743]

The wife checked on the phonak ones today and was told that the rechargeable batteries are warranted for 5 yrs. After that the complete hearing aid would have to be replaced.Not good😢

[@markmcduffie364]

I've had the Lumity Life 90 since January (1st time wearer), it is really good for me. I got mine through the VA. When I have my next appointment, I am going to ask for the active vent receiver and custom mold. I miss hearing bass, and domes don't do much for that aspect. Hoping for the titanium.

[@meric12131415]

True good luck I hear the active vent is very good 😁 although they may or may not do it but that's up to them I'm not sure how the VA works so yeah

[@seaweed556]

Thankyou Dr Cliff I have the phonak Lumity. #9 a lot of good information !

[@meric12131415]

@@seaweed556 cool 😁

[@skipker]

I live your channel. I suffer with extreme tinnitus. Left ear being the worst. I just got my Phonak replacing my Starkey, which wasn't 😢 great. I'm excited to learn of Lenire. However, it is way out of my price range. Do you know of any trial programs for this device?

[@angelsepulveda6865]

tengo audifonos nuevos oticon real!!! estoy muy contento. es increible con la tecnologia que tiene. tengo que decirte que ahora ya hay mas modelos de telefono movil con dispositivos Bluethoot asha. estoy usando un OPPO FIND 5 lite.

[@brentj7564]

excellent contrast/comparison! Will you be doing a Phonak vs Signia AX anytime soon?

[@StrongbowTX]

As somoene who has had a previous generation of both devices, I'm saddened that Oticon hasn't done more to complete with Phonak on features. I liked the sound quality of the Oticon OPN1s I started with better than my current Phonak Audeo devices. However tap control is a real game changer. I realize this video is a year old and Oticon has come out with the next generation of their devices, which have now added tap control, but what they added doesn't measure up to what I already have with my Phonaks. Also, this being a year old video, I agree that at the time the video was made, the Phonak app disconnecting when you closed the app and waiting for it to reconnect to the devices each time you started it was truly a PITA. However either an IOS update or a Phonak app update has fixed this. It still has to "connect" each time I launch the app, but it's gone from between 10 and 30 seconds down to about 2 seconds, enough that I barely notice the wait any more. I use it all the time to "mute" my devices before putting on over-the-ear headphones to use with my computer. I CAN use the Phonaks with the computer, unlike my Oticons, but I'm on my computer ALL DAY, and that would really kill my battery life. Also, sound quality when used in the Bluetooth "Headset" profile sucks on a computer. It's fine on my iphone, but my Windows PC just doesn't sound good for anyone on the other side of 2-way communication, if they can hear me at all.

[@shadoet412]

Phonak hearing aids don’t have an app but allow you to make and receive calls directly from your Apple Watch. Oticon hearing aids have a very cool app for the Apple Watch but you can’t make and receive calls. It’s phone calls vs cool app! It’s a tough decision, right?

[@meric12131415]

Ah hey doc that reminds me I meant to ask you does the my phonak app finally have disposable battery indicators or is it still for rechargeable only?

[@debmussallem3892]

I’m trying to get more info on the Nadia Lumity vs Oticon Exceed or whatever else is next in their lineup for severe to profound loss.

[@nsxbill1]

I'm currently on a trial basis for Oticon and the Bluetooth connection sucks. I'm going to try the Phonax next.

[@donwilson9086]

I am 72 and lost my rt. Eardrum when I was 5. Long story but by the time my family Dr sent me to my ENT I had swam all summer ear started draining. Qtip was the reason but family Dr should have done better. At least tell my mom to keep my ear dry. My ent made me an eardrum out of my blood vein in my arm. My workplace had hearing trucks come out annually. I never have had much if any hearing in that ear.. belltone did a hearing aid in it in the 90s. It was horrible. I know things are different now. I live alone so I really don’t need a aid unless I eat out with my children. Just can’t rear conversation on the table. OK. WHAT I would like to know in the video is how the onicon would work with my Apple Watch 8. Also on the ONICON CAN YOU USE YOUR IPHONE AS A TABLE MICROPHONE KINDA LIKE A ROGER TYPE DEVICE in a restaurant. My sister has the phonak paradise and like you said she gets so frustrated with the app using her iPhone. Since I live alone I’m going to try using AirPod pro 2 through my phone using live hearing and go from there. Insurance is Blue advantage using TRU HEARING , both these brands get a discount on tru hearing…do you have any videos on the actual TRU HEARING BRAND HEARING AIDS. I think they work with apple. Enjoy you video. Forgive the length of this

[@susanblanford5814]

I'd love to see a comparison of the Oticon Real and Philips 9040.

[@waynebeck7801]

Same here

[@billscott9723]

me too

[@mmarjisr]

As always good video, then I mentioned that I would gain my Phone Lumity hearing aids On August 17 I haven't tried it at a restaurant yet Thy world this Wednesday And so far I like them the only thing I don't like it doesn't take pulse like the paradise does why they took it out I don't know but I wish they kept them back in and I'm not going to step back in technology just to get that when the phonak lumity Has better features than a paradise does and that outweighs the pulse sensor

[@jeffbaillio1383]

I originally purchased phonak OTC hearing aid years ago but wasn’t satisfied with their performance. Another audiologist from a different group was recommended and she put me in Signia hearing aids with domes. I wasn’t satisfied and then she suggested molds. I used the mold for a while but was getting a lot of feedback and still had issues with them too. Now I’m back to domes, but my hearing seems to be getting progressively worse. Is Signia a good brand. Could another brand be more effective? I now simply leave the conversation once more than 3 other people join in. I’m desperate to find a better solution than what I have. What would you suggest for me to do?

[@LauraKnotek]

Which of these is better for listening to live music or a stereo (not streaming)?

[@waynebeck7801]

With oticon you can stream between your iPad and iPhone and automatically connect to which ever device is streaming…the feature is called audio hand off.

[@barrysmith8193]

The reality is that the majority of hearing aid users are technically unsophisticated seniors. The more features the higher the frustration by us. The audiologists do a miserable job of setting the stage for success with an upfront conversation/explanation of the intended performance. They believe that magically we will see from their point of view. In the month that I have had my phonak nadias nothing has gone as advertised. My wife has spent hours and hours daily resetting, repairing, re etc. this Wednesday will Be my third visit in as many weeks so the audiologist can figure out what is working and what is not. Lastly I believe that the creators/providers of hearing aids do not wear hearing aids so they have no point of reference or understanding of daily performance or the lack of. A comprehensive list of possible problems with a simple and clear resolution in non technical language would be in order.

[@gbkworf]

I have Phonak Lumity Life. I also review police camera video for a local police department. My desktop does not have Bluetooth, though it can be added with a BT USB device. Which would give me better sound (All Voice/Talking) into my hearing aides? Adding a BT USB device to my PC or connecting the Phonak TV streamer to my PC desktop. Please advise...thanks

[@mattr3576]

I had the Roger on, it was a nightmare. I just switched from Phonak P90 to Oticon real. My overall hearing improved, I mean hearing my wife, she noticed the Real as being better for me. After many adjustment of the P90 and only one for the Real I think they work for me. That is not to say the P90 are not good just not for me. One note the P90 were sent in twice for issues. I did like the features on the P90, however redoing the app was an issue, I think he mentioned thast.

[@mpd5259]

He probado Phonak Lumity 50 y 70 y como conectividad con Android está a años luz del resto marcas. Estás a 6 o 7 metros de distancia con pared por medio y se desconecta y cuando te acercas al teléfono vuelve a conectarse, con otras marcas pones el teléfono en el bolsillo de la chaqueta y se acabó. Además tienen un sonido genial. Lo que no entiendo es que en lumity no tengan Cross.

[@ronaldmohr5915]

They now have a cros for lumity

[@PhilZwick]

Clearly Phonak blows away Oticon when it comes to the connectivity capability and gadgets. On the other hand, Oticon offers a more inclusive hearing possibly g experience with their More approach to listening. I use the Oticon More 1 and find the inclusive rather than blinder hearing and noise to be enjoyable. Also, despite your comment, the music quality with ear molds is outstanding and the connectivity is good even when I am out walking. I am a techie so I would love to have tried the Phonak Lumity but it was never suggested by my audiologist. I will ask her why during my next visit.

[@meric12131415]

It was probably based on what you told your Audiologist they usually pick one for ya based on your needs

[@nataliel2853]

@PhilZwick, I am a first-time hearing aid user and would like to explain/clarify what you mean by "inclusive hearing possibly experience" and "inclusive rather than blinder hearing and noise to be enjoyable".

[@meric12131415]

@@nataliel2853 you want him to explain what he means by inclusive hearing possibly experience?

[@geocape7060]

I would rather hear higher frequencies then streaming calls and videos .. I didn't do well with the phonak so I use the Oticon level 1 and it does its job for me.

[@roberre164]

Yeah, me too.I have high frequency loss and found the Lumity much worse than the oticon for speech recognition. I place much more emphasis on speech recognition than all other features so I simply compare hearing aids against my speech recognition % and the aid that gets me the closest to 100% gets bought.

[@vickycarden1511]

I currently wear Oticon Real 3. My audiologist is ordering me Phonak waterproof version. Since I use an android phone. She can program the Phonak hearing aid through bluetooth for tinnitus support epecially since I like the Relief app.

[@locnlovely]

How have the Phonak hearing aids worked out for you?

[@vickycarden1511]

@locnlovely Fantastic. I can hear better. I can't even notice my tinnitus anymore. I have an upcoming audiologist appointment. Last month, she made some adjustments. Since I could hear more environmental sounds than people. The adjustment worked very well. I love bluetooth, especially when on the phone.

[@locnlovely]

That is fantastic to hear! I am an Android user and have used an Oticon Real 3 and a CROS for almost a week. I am seriously considering asking to switch/trade the Oticon's for the Phonak because the bluetooth issues are driving me a little batty. I think I need a custom mold too. Thanks for responding!

[@vickycarden1511]

@locnlovely your welcome. I use an android as well. Phonak app works well.

[@Foxycourderoy]

Dr Cliff, thank you. I have recently started losing S/Z/V/F sounds... I had an audiology exam and my hearing in the 2500K and lower is very, very good. Frankly I am terrified of losing my ability to communicate. My Dr didn't think a hearing aid would help with my issue. I love listening to music but understanding my friends and loved ones is more important. Do you have any thoughts? I also want to say, Thank you to all the people who posted their stories

[@RebbekkahMalynn]

I have the Oticon Level 1 and loved it for the Bluetooth reasons. I hate to say this but it’s not loud enough or clear enough for me to hear.. we’ve tried adjusting but it’s maxed out so I’ll be testing out new hearing aids next week and hoping for Phonax as I had that brand before switching. Phonax to me was much more clearer! I’m 31 with 92% hearing loss in each ear!

[@locnlovely]

How have the Phonak hearing aids worked out for you so far?

[@charlesmalone4379]

Great information, but the array of technology is so complex and the delivery so fast that my mind turns to mush. You have presented one presentation stating the Phonak waterproof is the simplest foolproof. My other research told me recharging increases maintence15%.

[@eliogheriani208]

I just bought the Oticon Real 2 and I am sorry I did because of the Oticon Companion application. This application does not work and it freezes on me. To get it to work I have to re-boot my Apple Iphone 12 Pro 3-6 times a day. It is ridiculous to spend close to $ 7000. to live with problem. Plus, the bluetooth is so bad so that if you move away from your phone more than 6-7 ft the other person cannot hear you. Plus half of the time only the left or right ear piece works and the other one keeps on looking for a connection. I cannot how Dr.Cliff keeps saving about this product. Dr. Cliff, I hope you give an answer.

[@brianmoran1968]

Really appreciate it as I’m going to make this decision

[@Jean69100]

The main thing im interested in is hearing sound quality especially in background noise.

[@dougk7965]

The most important issues and not fully addressed.

[@freddyortiz5625]

I have the same problem.

[@MichaelEAConn]

Any word on when the Lumity will go CIC or RIC disposable battery? Currently wear phonak virto B power CIC which I purchased in early 2018 so due for a new pair. Am curious if the RIC hearing quality difference is worth exploring as I get older and less conscious of been seen with aids. Thinking about trialing the Oticon Real RIC disposable but cautious about trying a new brand/sound philosophy after being on Phonak for 20+ years.

[@meric12131415]

🤔 that'd be entirely up to you but see if there's a trial period for them with your Audiologist

[@DLXLDY]

Thanks Dr. Cliff, you know I was waiting for this. :) I go back today to return the demo Oticons (More 1s since they did not have the Reals yet) and may ask to try the Lumity for a week. For a small and close ear and glasses wearer, when I slipped the Lumity on in the office, it felt large compared to the Oticons that are as if not more comfortable than my Stylettos. That said, I would be interested in hearing the difference.

[@DLXLDY]

And all that said, I may be interested in the Slim but after seeing your review that it is not so slim (and no one has one to demo here yet) I may not be able to decide just yet. Can I get the Lumity in the Oticon shell? LOL

[@johnmerte1694]

I have the Oticon opn1 hearing aids is tge Jabra pro 20 a big upgrade for me?

[@pmf2994]

The VA gave me the Oticon More 1; which I have been using for more than two years. I’m very satisfied with these hearing aids. I would like to know what the difference is between my Oticon More 1 and the Oticon Real 1 ?

[@sabiencarton9333]

i try both, more is better

[@tomhorman7196]

@@sabiencarton9333 I am making a decision between the different models of Oticons. I have demo'd the Phonak Lumiity and the new Starkey. I don't like the sound as much as the Oticons. I have worn Oticon's for the last five years. Can you tell me what you liked about the More's compareed the Reals? The more's are less expensive but supposedly quite a bit better than what I had.

[@John-xk2ud]

I just got the Philips 9040, the sound is good and very natural but they do not work with my Galaxy Android phone model...going backward there. I need high frequency so I will keep them despite the inconvenience of not being able to stream. Going from batteries to charging is wonderful.

[@RudiXeno]

I have the Philips 9040s. Their sound quality is extraordinary. I have always preferred Android phones. But when it comes to HA compatibility you can't beat Apple. Sadly, I'll be replacing my OnePlus phone with an iPhone 15.

[@leesmith8453]

Would the oticon Streamer Pro 1.3A work with costco phillips heraring aids?

[@dcweber1]

Great Summary/Comparison Doc. You are a wonderful resource in the intentionally opaque realm of Rx hearing devices. Echoing other commenters, the knowledgeability of Au.D's here in the Florida retirement belt is all over the map. And when you find a good one they soon move to another office :-(

[@meric12131415]

Oh yeah? Care to elaborate?

[@dcweber1]

What don’t you understand about my comment? Are you a native English speaker?

[@meric12131415]

@@dcweber1 no I'm a Spanish speaker 🤦‍♂️ course I speak English why wouldn't I? In any case you mentioned when you find a good audiologist they soon move to another office that's the part I never completely got

[@dcweber1]

@@meric12131415 I apologize if you thought I was being flippant. There’s a million hearing aid stores near The Villages, Florida where I live. Many companies have multiple offices and they tend to swap around the audiologists (AuD) after a certain period. In the past two years my local TruEar branch is on its third audiologist.

[@sjk7619]

Can you do a Oticon Real vs Resound Omnia comparison!

[@Claude-3]

You mention how great Oticon is for High frequency hearing loss. I have a mild and stable loss in mid frequencies, but 60 decible Low frequency loss which is progressively getting worse. What would work best. Is there another hearing aid or type of style designed for Low frequency hearing loss (i.e. dome vs. ear mold)? My audiaolgist reccommended the Oticons even though they carry the Phonak.

[@ArulaesseSender]

I have low frequency loss (~40db by now), Oticon Real 1 with ear mold just do a great job for me Note that I’m having the earmold not because it was bad with normal dome, but I just have very sensitive ears, so with silicon domes my ears were always irritated and itchy. Low frequency loss is very rare and tricky from fitting perspective, but I now that Oticon should still do a good job even with more severe hearing loss, but just give it a try and see if it works for you

[@mehmeta.164]

Which one would be better for low frequency hearing loss?

[@DrCliffAuD]

Both would be good as long as they are physically fit and programmed correctly.

[@fatherglyn]

I have just got the costco ‘Jaba Enhance Pro 10’ - what are your thoughts? I do not seem to be able to find any independent review of them. I am thinking of returning them for a Phonak Lumity 90 as bluetooth connectivity is really important for me and the ability for my hearing aids to automatically adjust to my environment. Do you think the switch is worth it?

[@gbkworf]

I love my Lumity Life. I'm on the phone allot! They just work!

[@waynebeck7801]

Phonak Lumity for the win 🥇

[@kaylasmusic]

I have the lumity and they’re amazing hearing aids.. although not sure why they I’ve been having problems with them acting up.. My audiologist is atill trying to figure out but i think i may have damaged something and need it sent for repair but we’re still seeing what the issue is

[@watermain48]

I'm still in my trial period from the VA with my Lumity devices. The connectivity is fantastic, but the wind noise attenuation is almost non-existent. I'm thinking of trying the Starkey Genesis AI.

[@kaylasmusic]

@@watermain48 Your audiologist could probably fix that as well.. There's a feature for that that probably has to be applied.. I usually never have the wind issue unless its super windy or going straight to the microphones, which is normal for any BTE hearing aid.. How do you find the sound quality to be? I find them to be better than Starkey's sound quality.. I have started out trying the lyric (which is also from phonak).. Those have the best sound quality that exists because it uses your natural ear's anatomy to amplify the sound, so I've ever since used that as the reference of sound quality.. I unfortunately wasn't a candidate for the lyric in the end because it gave me infections and stopped working in my ear a lot.. So unfortunately I had to switch :(.. I've tried the IIC but I'm sure the new Genesis AI is probably also great too and probably both have similar sound quality. I find tI tried resound but had no luck with those, but the Lumity microphone piece fits behind my ear the best and I think offers the most optimization. It also depends on your hearing loss and needs.. And as just like a cellphone or any device, its all up to you and your doctor how it will function.. There's many great features on a lot of the new hearing aids now a days.. I have also wanted to try the new genesis AI but was told I am best off with the lumity and that I also can't switch devices since my trial period is up..

[@watermain48]

@@kaylasmusic My audiologist has the wind noise attenuation maxed out already. I have ear gear spandex sleeves on my Starkey RIC hearing aids which helps. Maybe I'm going to need the same for the Lumity HAs. Thanks.

[@kaylasmusic]

Ya, probably a good idea forsure. How do you like the sound quality overall?

[@Malcan2424]

OMG! All most seniors want in a hearing aid is to generally hear better in simple day living. All these new technology hearing aids have capabilities which could be too complicated for them to use or they really don't need for, and are wasted cost.

[@fritzmunoz]

Doc good day quick question how good is the Oticon real for SSD vs the phonak audeo paradise and Audibel arc cros hearing aids ? I appreciate your input thanks

[@meric12131415]

Bit of advice there pal don't go with audibel or belltone from what I inder stand I know belltone is locked but that's about it I'd imagine it's the same with audibel from miracle ear I'm guessing?

[@chaldreader1753]

I just started wearing Phonak L90 R about a week now. After about 4 hours of wearing, I have a strange feeling in my head, hard to describe but it does not feel good with slight lightheadedness and nausea and feel tired. I then take it off and the symptom slowly go away after about 3 hours. This is my first hearing aid. Does anyone possibly know why this is happening? Could it be the electromagnetic frequency from the hearing aid? Thank you.

[@ChethanaKalanaMahindapala]

better check with audiologist again then, Once i had ear pain due to ear molds structure issues,

[@hannahlowell44]

Hi this is great information. Would you consider slowing the video? The review was spoken very fast, and I had trouble following. Maybe it is a KZbin problem?

[@95MerlotMica]

KZbin actually lets you pick the playback speed now. :D Hit the gear/settings icon, choose playback speed, and you can pick slower or faster than the default to suit your needs. Hope this helps!

[@hannahlowell44]

@@95MerlotMica great thank you for this. It works much better.

[@meric12131415]

Nice analogy doc🤣 sniper vs shotgun guess who's gonna win with that one?

[@DR-zj4od]

Phonak has true Bluetooth connectivity so that is ALL you need to know. Phonak connects to ALL Bluetooth devices with NO need for other devices to do it. Phonak wins hands down.

[@barthjackk]

I think this video might be outdated because he says the Find My Phone only works on Apple and not on Android but that feature works on my Android. The video is 10 months old so maybe at that point Android didn't support it but it does now...maybe an update to this video would be in order to identify any firmware or software updates.

[@garrisonshriver3074]

I had been wearing the Oticon OPN 1 custom hearing aids. I've been wearing hearing aids for almost 20 years, so I'm not new to hearing aids. The Oticon OPN 1 hearing aids are with out a doubt the worst hearings I've ever owned. I've had them for less than 3 years and have been back to the factory 4 times for issues. If they were a car they would be a lemon,. Is there any recourse I have for these hearing aids that just don't work?

[@northwales1000]

Get to use the phonak L90-RL this week, see if they make any difference to a moderate loss

[@kaylasmusic]

I have the lumity and have a moderate hearing loss.. they’re amazing devices but just as like a cellphone or any device you own, its up to you and your doctor how they will perform for you

[@northwales1000]

@@kaylasmusic here in the UK, get them through work and have access to quite a few different Audiologists, due to who I work for.

[@kaylasmusic]

@@northwales1000 Ya, But they're great devices overall but just need your audiologist to make sure they're working their best

[@northwales1000]

@@kaylasmusic pretty confident they will give the best treatment.

[@gsp49]

My Phonak App doesn't work half the time.

[@void2258]

Has phonak fixed the long running issues with their android apps not connecting to the aids even when the aids are otherwise connecting fine. I can hear phone calls and media just fine, but it's been literal weeks and dozens of resets and re-pairs I still can't get my older (audeo P50) aids to connect to the android app. The app may as well not exist and the aids may as well have no ability to adjust outside the physical switches.

[@deberrc]

My new 90's are staying connected and reconnecting perfectly. My last phonaks disconnected several times a day.

[@swedishbob_7315]

Still waiting for you to go Global... 😁

[@billscott9723]

can you adjust to real ear my costco ‘Jaba Enhance Pro 10’ , for a fee???

[@user-ug5vt2jt4c]

Oticon👍🏻

[@terrylindsay445]

Hello. When are you going to test the new Philips 9040 that was just released. They look very good. Thanks

[@DrCliffAuD]

I won't be. That is a hearing aid only sold at Costco. I only review the current Kirkland models from Costco.

[@terrylindsay445]

@@DrCliffAuD There currently is no Kirkland hearing aid!!!!

[@billsstudio2528]

Dr. Cliff, Had a pair of Widex (my first) aids and after about 2-3 yrs, they started to so south...got a pair of Beltone Achieve. I'm trying to like them but they have an offensive upper mid/high freq oscillation. Most of the time when transitioning environments / sound levels. Widex seemed more organic where I'm still dialing in the Beltone's. Don't see much on Beltone's on YT, even though they have been around for decades. Have 40 more days to decide. Your thoughts on Beltone? Already have heard plenty on Oticon/Phonak. Thanks! Love your channel!

[@DrWhat2]

From an Audiologist. Battery life and reliability after a couple of years for each brand should have been discussed. And which product has had many repairs on their products vs the other. At least with their previous models. Both great products though. I agree that to focus more on voices in noise go for phonak. For sound that appears transparent, like you aren't even noticing amplification but hearing better esp for milder losses the Oticon is great. And yes for very sharp high frequency losses go oticon if you want open domes. Although phonak has improved its anti feedback recently. They just keep getting better

[@thecyclingengineer7752]

How about water/sweat resistance for Phonak vs Oticon - do you have any experience? Sweat can make a pair of hearing aids useless at high ambient temperatures or during fitness exercises.

[@timsmith5980]

@@thecyclingengineer7752 You need to buy the Ear Gear protection covers available in all sizes and washable! I have hyperhydrosis so without the above protection sweat kills my aids!

[@TheKurtLyon]

I am an iPhone guy and I’ve worn the Oticon More 1, an MFI device. currently I’m in a trial period With the Phonax Lumity 90 which is a different Bluetooth protocol. Just as an MFI device probably plays better with Apple. Do you think in your professional opinion than a device like Phonax works better with an android device? Thanks in advance.

[@terrylindsay445]

This is interesting since Costo probably sells more hearing aids than anyone else.

[@lauramaeda7214]

So nice that there’s a comparison video between these two hearing aids. It’s nice to be able to compare any features that could become a dealbreaker. I do have a question about the Phonak recharger and tap control functions. My understanding is that the onboard carry and go chargers is only available on the Phonak Life and that some tap control features are only available on the top 90 and 70 technology platforms. I don’t think that either is a dealbreaker at this point. And I have a wonderful hearing care provider at Salem Audiology Clinic in Salem Oregon from your network of providers. Not sure i am allowed to mention his name. He is knowledgeable, kind and helpful and takes time to answer any questions i may have. And unfortunately for him, i ask many,many questions but he’s always prompt to respond. I could not have better care.

[@DrCliffAuD]

Hey Laura. I didn't know Dr. Scot Frink was your Audiologist! 😆

[@cottagegirl612]

Can you disable the tap motion on phonak hearing aids?

[@DrCliffAuD]

Yes. In the app, or the programming software.

[@meric12131415]

Ah seems the cros and bicross users of the world ain't getting no love from phonak with the lumity line ah how unfortunate

[@billscott9723]

which is best in noise like a resturant? or is that impossible to say for each person.

[@DrCliffAuD]

Yeah, depends on the person.

[@_masz_tomasz]

Could you elaborate more detailed on ASHA disadvantages? Im testing phonak lumity right now and i am very dissapointed with battery life, i have to recharge it in the middle of the day. So oticon with disposable batt is a great option IMO. Thanks

[@DrCliffAuD]

Poor connectivity and limited features compared to MFi

[@VLiviu]

​@@DrCliffAuDwhat do you mean by limited features? I am using Samsung note 9 and all cool. What would iphone give better? the only bad think I've found was when I was speaking on the phone in noisy area and the person could not hear me well. thanks

[@richarddecarolis7178]

Great content...talks too fast.

[@user-ev7hp8si1m]

Stop whining about him talking too fast. Turn on the subtitles, adjust playback speed to 0.75x, upload the video to an online transcript generator

[@edwardmclean4892]

I am sure Dr. Olson is giving lots of good information on hearing aides BUT his manner of speaking is appalling for people (or anyone) with hearing problems. It is far too fast, presented in an aggitated manner. I simply can't listen to him

[@TheBluealan2000]

You can reduce the speed on KZbin on the settings menu to 0.75 speed also all of his videos have closed captions (subtitles)

[@007dub]

I've owned both Phonak and Oticon. I would never buy Oticon again. Their Bluetooth is worthless. If you like to stream music, etc you will be disconnected on a regular basis.

[@yodelersparadise]

I had that trouble with my Oticon OPN3s and iphone. It's an iphone problem caused by their updates. Now they work together all the time, no disconnections anymore.

[@VLiviu]

iPhone or Android?

[@gsp49]

Im wanting something practical that you wear over the head like headphones, im sick of the digital minature stuff. Bring back analog devices.

[@dellparker7686]

How much do they cost?😂

[@amazingloveism]

No ne

[@eliakimsando2919]

Did you just say a dumb phone😂😂😂😂😂 ai

[@danclark9987]

Oticon Bluetooth features are a complete failure for me. FAIL.

[@Art-bq9zz]

Why do you speak so fast, making the viewer difficult to follow your technical information? not to mention your body language. Calm down!

[@vmcconnachie]

I have this problem as well, it's usually the first sign my hearing aids are starting to deteriorate. You can slow (change) the rate up or down under settings, go to lower right corner of the KZbin video for settings, Left click, choose "Playback speed" Hope this helps! Wonderful option.

[@Taid44]

@@vmcconnachie on my iPad, the settings wheel is in the upper right corner. Thanks for the info - I didn’t know that adjustment was there!

[@karenrose7]

I love that you speak fast and yet are still understandable!

[@mr.fantasticbaby1831]

Just rewind it . Or don’t watch him he’s doing just fine and you the one need to calm down!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Art-bq9zz]

@@mr.fantasticbaby1831 Nobody asked for your opinion. You are not the one doing the presentation and my comment was not directed to you, so, mind your own business.

[@konracciesla]

@konracciesla 3 tygodnie temu the best would be phonak b titanium for 13 bareries instead of 10 batteries

[@gabric9413]

Any good hearing care provider in Belgium?🥲

[@FalkoDoornenbal]

Amplifon

[@user-fo1vw8ey2h]

I've had the Lumity Life 90 since January (1st time wearer), it is really good for me. I got mine through the VA. When I have my next appointment, I am going to ask for the active vent receiver and custom mold. I miss hearing bass, and domes don't do much for that aspect. Hoping for the titanium.