LEICA M10-P: Quietest Leica M camera ever - First Look

[@8strings]

No annoying music (apart from the short intro) accompanying your review. Also, great background behind you. Thank you for introducing this new Leica to us.

[@JohnRicard]

Yeah, I'm so sick of background music on videos... I often just click away rather than listen to 20 minutes of bad looped music underneath someone talking.

[@Photogearnews]

Only time I tend to use it is when it is more of a ’vlog’ style review, or when I'm trying to hide some background noise. Sony RX100 review - some dancers were dancing to some very recognisable and clear music that would have no doubt raised a copyright claim. Dropping the actual audio then adding some royalty free music gets around this situation... Just fade it out, or way way down in volume when I start to talking.

[@brryesotto58]

leica is always adorable but not affordable

[@Photogearnews]

Could be an alternative marketing slogan

[@MrPhotographerDude]

To you

[@adamvaz9097]

Just rent one

[@elmachomen]

My dream camera! That and a summicron 50mm and I won´t need anything else for the rest of my life. Great video!

[@Halum11]

great video. i really like the removal of the logo from the front. no more fiddling around with black tape. i would like to see a side by side comparison with a M10 and an M6 or M6 TTL to see how much quieter the new shutter really is.

[@michelbirnbacher]

Abhishek Sengupta I have a comparison on my blog birnbacher.com sorry, german but the sound is international:-) Problem: at the table the difference is not that big, if you hold it, you can hear the difference better. I hoe that helps greetings from Nuremberg

[@emptyboxesandrooms]

i had a bit of a hands on in a leica store yesterday. omg the shutter. omg the weight too.

[@robertturner1983]

Many thanks, Brad! Your response will help me decide whether to purchase a Leica M10-P.

[@Wicked_Panda]

Dude's hands are huge!!

[@user-rg6oq4df3t]

see you in 10 years, M10.

[@MrArturhM]

Everything you said about that camera I got it in mine, seems like I saved more than five thousands pounds.

[@crazylikeafox1000]

Why do they expect people to pay horrific prices and still only have 24 mp sensors? The industry is light years ahead of them.

[@jlwilliams]

So to make it “less conspicuous”they removed the red dot and put on a great big gnarly slotted-head screw? What is this, the Lumbersexual Leica? Classic-era M Leicas (M2 - M5) had a smaller, more elegant screw in this same location to cover the rangefinder mechanism's vertical adjustment port, and I'm guessing this one serves the same purpose... but why make it so clunky?

[@attilafarago8174]

Apart from the price, it is the perfect camera.

[@acidsnow5915]

that camera is a beauty! Leica is killing it lately with their lineup thanks for sharing this first look with us this was fun to watch!

[@bernios3446]

I would assume that the Fujifilm X-H1 is quieter than the M10-P. WHile the older FUjis were already quite low noise, the X-H1 is a joy to use already because of the extremely discrete shutter sound.

[@Chenrandyliu]

yea but once you have used a leica you'll never go back

[@jozsefbarabas5466]

Olyan Digitális Leica gépet szeretnék látni aminek nincs hátsó diszpléje. Benne lenne egy nagykapacitású memória tároló. Amit,ha fényképezek azt össze gyüjti.Este kényelmesen átnézem a számitógépemen. Ez vissza ad valami érzést a filmre fényképezés hősi korszakából. Tisztelőjük:Barabás József. Hungary.

[@DrHumorous]

Nice review, thanks.

[@greenophotography]

Wow... 'Live view' with a (wait for it)... level! Sooo fancy. How did we ever get by without one? Only about, what, a decade behind every other digital camera EV-ER. Worthless addition. Not what Leica shooters care about. Never mind it's laggy as all get-out. I'm still happy with my M9-P, but wouldn't mind the larger sensor of the M10.

[@Fjalll]

The M9-P has the same sensor size as the M10

[@milodermick2981]

Very nice review, but I keep my ccd M8.

[@MrPhotographerDude]

LOL!

[@PeteMP3]

Sounded like the camera was in live view mode when you tripped the shutter?

[@Photogearnews]

Yup, slightly different sound... but volume the same Derrrerrrer rip rip (Live View) Derrrerrrer rip (Viewfinder)

[@mariesanchez]

I want this camera!!!!

[@jqueryrocks]

Let me summarize this video: no red dot, touch screen, quieter shutter.

[@Photogearnews]

Oh you were so close.... missed the engraving on the top plate and the electronic level. 😉

[@stevelaferney3579]

Photogearnews Ooohh!

[@eagleeyephoto8715]

The shutter sounds like Fujifilm xpro-1 which is 6 years old camera.

[@robertturner1983]

Which classic Leica M lenses will work with the Leica M10-P? Will those lenses work without being sent to Leica for coding? What are the problems if the lenses are not coded?

[@bradmaestas5206]

Nearly all the classic M lenses can be used with the M10 series. AFAIK some of the early 21mm lenses won't meter correctly and the close-focusing range on the 50mm DR doesn't work without modification. Otherwise, you can use any screw or M-mount lens on your M10X without issues. As far as coding, my 90 APO isn't coded nor are my Zeiss Biogon superwides. I select these manually (for non-Leica lenses you select a Leica equivalent) and it applies geometric and vignetting corrections and attaches the EXIF data including an estimate of aperture (it's not always perfect). Or you can leave it as is and apply corrections and EXIF later. Coded lenses will have everything applied automatically. I'm considering having my 90 coded because it is a bit of a pain to remember to manually select lenses each time I change them and more than once I've shot my 90 with 21 selected and vice versa.

[@ronaldoroda403]

do it vs Fuji on shutter noise.

[@zitnbit]

Nice camera. Great review. Too expensive to buy.

[@cfagil]

Very interesting to the camera collectors but as a photographer I would buy a M10. Not yet though. With the Chinese market shut, thanks to a marketing blunder, I would expect a very drastic price drop on all models in the next 6 months.

[@brasero20000]

What would be the alternative for Leica ? What would be the camera model that for you is as good as a Leica 240 or M10 but in an other brand?

[@peterberger3928]

The alternative to LEICA is a used LEICA.

[@stevelaferney3579]

Peter Berger Yep. Tried for months then got M3 back then.

[@robertturner1983]

Would you happen to know how much Leica charges for coding lenses? Thanks.

[@pelicula9779]

Love the Sony A6500 comparison. The camera has a complete silent shutter mode. That did not make it here though

[@Photogearnews]

Unless you heard me say just after that the quiet shutter is obviously a bit redundant as most mirrorless cameras now have a silent/or virtually silent shutter in electronic mode (which incidentally won’t help you out photographying fast moving subjects unless you have an extremely good camera with low rolling shutter).

[@stevelaferney3579]

Photogearnews An interesting notation. TY

[@357mview2]

This video quality is very very amazing, can you please do a setup for filming a product review, and thank you for the work.

[@Kdkjdjewerdnxa]

This would be my ideal digital Leica. Too bad I could never justify spending that much for a digital camera body that’ll be outdated in a few years

[@MrPhotographerDude]

There are people who are still using their M9s and people who still want them. So outdated is usually bullshit.

[@paulsenior69]

Agree, totally happy with m9.

[@joshtlawrence]

If a camera takes good photos now it doesn't suddenly stop taking good photos in a few years time.

[@martinjn2920]

GAS, that is what makes a camera u/s in a few years time, people think that something more than a couple of years old is no longer fit for purpose, it suddenly stops taking those pictures you can print and hang on your wall and therefore has to be replaced. Gone are the days when you could buy a camera and have it for years and years and years and.....

[@Photogearnews]

Shhhhhh Martin! If you start telling people no one will watch these videos any more and I’ll have to go and do something else!!!

[@MrPhotographerDude]

I wish it had a flash sync like the film Leicas

[@parratt-world]

Why not compare the shutter sound with other Leica M cameras?

[@Photogearnews]

Not got bags of money lying around

[@stevelaferney3579]

Photogearnews Bound to know owners who’d lend you theirs. I too wish someone would do M series for comparison. Very nice for historical use if nothing else. Listening Leica? And please do it Right!

[@lemon58421]

I prefer my analogue Leica MP! much cheaper! :-) and it's a buy for life!

[@leemartin2978]

Yes please......

[@westsenkovec]

I don't know. I'm on the fence. There isn't even a red dot, so what exactly are you paying so much?

[@stevelaferney3579]

West Senkovec For me the much quieter shutter. Tape used to cover the red dot for less chance a thief recognized my Leica 2 miles away. But there are a few additions nice but not so needed. Depends what you do. Too much click and I got noticed in the offices... Pros are gonna love the shutter. Probably.

[@bradmaestas5206]

Nice troll.

[@ManyDoors777]

Sweet camera....

[@billyabroad8057]

I really wished they stopped beating around the bush and bring out the Q2. Great review though!

[@Photogearnews]

Thanks

[@stevelaferney3579]

Yes, good review.

[@-grey]

50,000 oi-es-ohw seems a lot. What can you usably shoot? 1600? 6400?

[@clarencelaboranti4835]

のぢGrey i've seen pretty usable shots by Steve Huff at 25 600 ISO.

[@MrPhotographerDude]

10000 is still really nice

[@stevelaferney3579]

I was pretty impressed at 25,600. Wish Tri-X pushed further than 5000-6400 back then. Oh the lost shots.

[@ericwilliamjohnson]

Damn, that is one sexy camera.

[@talleyrand9442]

As close to a film camera except a film camera. It's too bad Leica wouldn't take it a step further (break the mold) and added an improved sensor to that monolith of bra$$ that surrounds it.

[@bngr_bngr]

No black paint model?

[@Photogearnews]

🤔

[@stevelaferney3579]

Photogearnews Pass the brush and paint, please. I remember the camo Mary Ellen Mark used in Latin America. Now That was blending in! Self painted for all you youngsters.

[@chizhang001001]

ppl that need those new features should just get the sony a7RIII for 1/3 the price, you also get AF and better sensor

[@weizenobstmusli8232]

But no rangefinder and microlense array for older Leica lenses.

[@gyrovague]

On quietness rather than format my early Kiev IIIa is quieter.

[@MrPhotographerDude]

My M3 is quieter than your Contax IIIA knock off.

[@andrewfwf]

waiting for the m11 upgrade

[@PYYYYYY]

I will start to save up for m20

[@Photogearnews]

Inflation may be against you. Make sure you get a good interest rate 😎

[@felixmilleniantosetiawan5530]

What's the p stand for?

[@dennislam8102]

profesdional

[@stevelaferney3579]

Professional or hopefully you won’t see me. Much... ;)

[@jqueryrocks]

So, when your M10 is screwed, it becomes an M10-P

[@chirag4]

Will they also make a Silver model / version of M10-P ..... or only this jet Black edition?

[@raksh9]

Yes, silver chrome M10 P is available.

[@MrPhotographerDude]

Of course

[@Stop4MotionMakr]

Shame, the screen is still there.

[@Photogearnews]

Leica M-D is the camera for you 👍

[@jacopoabbruscato9271]

No reason to upgrade from the M6, If I had one

[@ianboard544]

Nice, but it is hard to believe that my pictures are going to be 10x (the price ratio) better than those taken with my fuji (which is just as quiet). It does look like the menus are a bit better.

[@pinkeye00]

"New series" .. no, it's just a Leica M10 w/ less bits for more money. Call it what it is. Nothing has changed.

[@spoolindsm127]

"less bits" like the quieter shutter, touchscreen and electronic level? Yes "Nothing has changed" smh...

[@cornspy]

I think the shutter sound is bad . I love the m8,m9 or m240 it better than m10 and m10p

[@MrPhotographerDude]

So you don't have a M10 I take it? The M9 sounds like dog shit. Who are you trying to kid? LOL!

[@spoolindsm127]

I personally like the M9 shutter and don't think it sounds like "dog shit". So mechanical and visceral with only the necessary digital bits added. Love that camera.

[@cfagil]

I don't give a damn what the shutter sounds like as long as the image quality is good. I do know many friends who buy Leica not for photography at all.

[@akhyarrayhka4048]

M10 is lovely but other special edition version is basically BS

[@mikejett2028]

The Zagato? That was ugly as hell imo.

[@ItisBean]

But you lose less money on those versions, or sometimes you can sell them for more than what you paid.

[@akhyarrayhka4048]

@@ItisBean if it's well maintained... At least they did something with this version of M10

[@stevelaferney3579]

Not sure if you are saying M10-P is the “special edition version or not. If so for pros or those who just prefer a quieter Leica there is a quite audible difference twixt the M10 and M10-P.

[@shakalaka7502]

so... little to no reason to upgrade..

[@Photogearnews]

Depends how much you value the quieter shutter, touchscreen, electronic level and the new look

[@PYYYYYY]

Depends what are u upgrading from mate

[@ZappaBlues]

Lottery Lottery !!

[@BigAppleEmperor]

Damn, touch screen and quiet shutter? I guess they ran out of ideas.

[@iNerdier]

They pretty much ran out of ideas in 1958

[@raksh9]

The P versions of Leica M cameras are largely cosmetic upgrades with a few functional tweaks, like synthetic sapphire LCD screen or larger buffer.

[@-grey]

> has a screen. How obscene.

[@ianboard544]

The sapphire lcd makes no sense. Just get a gorilla glass protector - cost $7.

[@mauriziomauricone]

They even put a electronic level in there, really ground breaking

[@NetvoTV]

Review Leica D Lux 7 please!

[@roni910]

Fuji XE3 is better imo

[@KevinEscobarCo]

The fact that he’s fine with rubbing his greasy fingers on the viewfinder is NOT OK

[@Photogearnews]

I place butter on my hands before every review

[@temporal0044]

Jui.

[@stefanfranke1901]

Not enough to buy this upgrade to the original M10 ...

[@MrPhotographerDude]

It's not an upgrade. It's a different version of an M10.

[@mauriziomauricone]

1:06 I wonder why? To adjust the rangefinder yourself instead of sending it back to Leica every 6 months? LOL

[@alandavis9180]

Have bought 2 new Leicas over the years, one digital, one analogue. Never had either rangefinder go out of alignment.

[@calvinchann1996]

Finger prints everywhere

[@Photogearnews]

You can use cameras, or put them on a shelf and look at them 😉

[@stevelaferney3579]

So long as they’re only yours. ;)

[@renaissance6745]

YAWN !!!!!!!!!

[@abigailsockeye1586]

the P stands for Poop

[@spoolindsm127]

Which judging by your comment and picture you never do right snowflake?

[@ianbrown704]

oh well each to their own.

[@husamuel530]

Expensive is not leica's fault, it's your fault..

[@Photogearnews]

That's an interesting take on it, that I've never considered. I guess it comes down to whether expensive means 'can you afford it?' versus 'does it represent good value compared to the competition?'

[@stevelaferney3579]

Photogearnews Or as I really liked the difference in shutter sound and size of my Nikons., Canons. You choose your tools according to need and virtue.

[@captainawasome8985]

6500 £ :(

[@user-mf9bn1yt9d]

All are outdated, especially the sensor. It is no match with the japanese.

[@dontbeaculpus]

ricoh gr

[@fellowcitizen]

Ricoh GR-P

[@rotvonrat]

no without the red brandmark it is completely uninteresting, nobody will know i got a leica

[@manipaquiao2031]

Too expensive

[@Ed-lz4jv]

What a lovely bold printing on the back of MADE IN GERMANY, got to get me one to impress my friends LOL fucking overpriced crap

[@parratt-world]

A7Rii .. twice the meg, half the price and articulated screen. So much more usable. If I want a marginally quieter shutter, I use the Leica M7 with an inaccurate rangefinder. Legendary Leica build? Not since the M3 and M2.

[@Chosen_Waves_Music]

Sony a6500 has a silent shutter. More quiter than that leica......also you can save $6,500 no pun Intended......

[@schlemielschmock7149]

Don't compare a toyota with a mercedes.

[@gacs7424]

Sure, Toyota is cheaper and more reliable 😂

[@fellowcitizen]

Almost all cameras have silent shutter modes except SLRs. Or X100F and GR have leaf shutters for flash or other mechanical features

[@PYYYYYY]

Sell your bitcoin! 😏

[@Photogearnews]

Or Hodl and buy 2x M10-P when moon 🚀

[@nastynate838]

guys will buy this camera and still be an awful photographer ... "hey!" " i have a Leica."