Photography Student VS Pro Photographer

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Jessica Kobeissi

Jessica Kobeissi

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@natalieansley2932
@natalieansley2932 3 жыл бұрын
Y’all are missing a keyword here: student. What do students do? They learn. She’s complimenting her while giving critiques as a professional.
@hephaestus5365
@hephaestus5365 3 жыл бұрын
correct
@LilMissTravelPants
@LilMissTravelPants 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah nothing wrong with being a beginner or a student. Being able to shoot next to a professional photographer was my favorite part of my photography course because it shows the skillset you are working for, it's extremely motivating.
@tuyetnhungnguyenthi8871
@tuyetnhungnguyenthi8871 2 жыл бұрын
If Sara Dietschy can have 60 minutes of recording, 150 minutes of live streaming, 9 to 12 times the sound quality of old channels, 24 hours of highway and 30 to 32 times the overall bandwidth quality of Dog, then Maha, Sophia, and Jessica can only have 24 minutes of recording, 45 minutes of live streaming, 5 to 8 times the sound quality of old channels, 14 to 15 minutes of highway and 2 to 4 times the overall bandwidth quality of Dog.
@DM-nh3zr
@DM-nh3zr 4 жыл бұрын
Maha shoots like a film photographer, I feel like that’s what she is at heart. You can tell when she keeps the model still for longer periods of time
@spencermorningstarphotos
@spencermorningstarphotos 3 жыл бұрын
Taking a while to focus the lense.
@lefteyereport6354
@lefteyereport6354 3 жыл бұрын
Also shooting in bright sunlight blows out digital, while it is the prime lighting for color negative film
@saga2828
@saga2828 4 жыл бұрын
I think it is about post-editing as well.
@idislikemints
@idislikemints 4 жыл бұрын
They should have had a before and after editing.
@wolft2953
@wolft2953 4 жыл бұрын
^this. LOL., the unedited should have been included. That would be more interesting
@ryanrootphoto
@ryanrootphoto 4 жыл бұрын
Editing is crucial
@徐野-w8r
@徐野-w8r 3 жыл бұрын
Ilovethisvideo
@stardusty
@stardusty 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah honestly this looked like 90% post editing.
@lesan001
@lesan001 3 жыл бұрын
Would've been nice to compare notes at the end, grabbing the best set of photo's from both photographers and discuss why they made certain descisions and what they were going for both technically and aesthetically.
@victoriao7039
@victoriao7039 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@UK-JOURNEYS
@UK-JOURNEYS 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@LUCHTHANS4
@LUCHTHANS4 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@bekyglez1048
@bekyglez1048 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@taliquality9506
@taliquality9506 4 жыл бұрын
You should do this more to help new photographers and new models too.
@xtonibx5770
@xtonibx5770 4 жыл бұрын
@L D what didn't you like about jessica's?
@DragonCraft07
@DragonCraft07 4 жыл бұрын
@L D possibly meant help with publicity and getting attention
@jakerockfire101
@jakerockfire101 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the student knows their way around a camera
@taliquality9506
@taliquality9506 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t write this comment as a judgement to the student. Both had great pictures, i’m just saying, with the experience Jessica has, she could help new people getting into these things.
@butterfleye
@butterfleye 4 жыл бұрын
Model / photographer insta follow train? @nessabenavente
@riane456789
@riane456789 4 жыл бұрын
maha's first photo made my jaw DROP
@alex_179
@alex_179 4 жыл бұрын
the students laugh is so cute sjshdhdhdh
@clarajosephine3295
@clarajosephine3295 4 жыл бұрын
Yasss, I was searching for this comment, so cuuute
@laylagherfal7423
@laylagherfal7423 4 жыл бұрын
Yes her laugh is the cutest
@徐野-w8r
@徐野-w8r 3 жыл бұрын
BeautifulGirls.Relax
@glitchmanshandle
@glitchmanshandle 3 жыл бұрын
hueheuheue
@lauradoesart
@lauradoesart 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like that first outfit was very editorial for a park 😭
@Jack-oc2xq
@Jack-oc2xq 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought it would look cool again the pattern of the bench, but definitely did not suit the casual sitting by the water
@Roanoak
@Roanoak 4 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about that Is how I always dress for my daily stroll in the park with my parasol
@aflower6955
@aflower6955 3 жыл бұрын
@@Roanoak Luxurious
@tiaradigital1594
@tiaradigital1594 4 жыл бұрын
Maha: “I have touchscreen. We’re not THAT outdated.” Me: -cries in second hand rebel t6-
@marykate647
@marykate647 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have touchscreen either. my t3i is weeping in the corner of my room. "It's okay, t3i, mama still loves you. "
@TimidMC
@TimidMC 4 жыл бұрын
@@marykate647 my t2i still going strong lol
@k.skyl1n3zz
@k.skyl1n3zz 4 жыл бұрын
Touch screen is useless lmao
@ibraheemsaeed6369
@ibraheemsaeed6369 4 жыл бұрын
I have touchscreen....... ....... ....... ...... .... On my phone camera
@lunawroblewski
@lunawroblewski 4 жыл бұрын
My camera doesn’t even have a screen
@the_bob_147
@the_bob_147 4 жыл бұрын
Maha has schooling and Jess has experience. Both are valid ways to learn. I wouldn't say Maha's are worse in any way. I actually like most of hers way more. It's a style choice more than anything.
@alyssarh
@alyssarh 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree!! Love this comment
@FromTheHipp
@FromTheHipp 3 жыл бұрын
Jess' are objectively better
@gilernt
@gilernt 3 жыл бұрын
@@FromTheHipp Not necessarily, from the ones I saw in here all she really did was go down to f/1.8 and color grade the image. I, like others in the comments, appreciate Maha's style. Perhaps with either a different setup (like a film camera) or some basic editing, her photos could easily rival if not surpass Jess's in my opinion. Honestly to me, the word objective should never be used when talking about photography. Art is subjective, and photography in this case is a form of art. If you think Jess's work is better, that's your correct opinion, and since other people have different (also correct) opinions, it's subjective.
@FromTheHipp
@FromTheHipp 3 жыл бұрын
@@gilernt art is subjective and what you like is subjective but quality is not.
@gilernt
@gilernt 3 жыл бұрын
@@FromTheHipp What's your definition of quality? If it's raw gear power, I'd again disagree with you since I've seen many photographers be able to pump out top notch artistic work with point and shoot cameras. If that's too hard to believe, just watch any video on KZbin where a pro takes a $500 camera and shoots pictures that still look professional. If it's editing, that's still subjective. Everyone can edit how they please and everyone can have their own opinions on it. The only thing I can think of at the moment that could possibly be labelled as objective is composition, but even then if you break the rules in the proper fashion, "proper composition" is nonexistent. In this case, I think Maha's composition is just fine. I again ask you to please share what you mean by quality.
@andrejnawoj8471
@andrejnawoj8471 4 жыл бұрын
I love seeing Maha getting more vocal and more comfortable with the model as they're shooting. I love her little asides, gettin' sassy. I love how supportive Jess is with the flash. Love how good this whole shoot was, honestly. Just love the positive vibes all around.
@susannahvera575
@susannahvera575 3 жыл бұрын
Maha has such a calming personality. Watching her shoot just made me happy.
@akshitapasricha2014
@akshitapasricha2014 4 жыл бұрын
I have watched all your KZbin videos and I love them. I'm 15 years old and a beginner in photography, just like you were when you were at the start of your career. I look up to you. I could relate to you when you said that you took pictures of dry leaves and nature because you didn't have any model to shoot. You are an inspiration to me.
@joymwendwa6959
@joymwendwa6959 4 жыл бұрын
I pray that Jesus helps you to do well at it and that you don't forget to grow in Him in the process. In Jesus name. Amen. I'm 17 and I'm a beginner at photography too
@professionalpotato4764
@professionalpotato4764 4 жыл бұрын
@@joymwendwa6959 If that works for you great :) Not sure if there's any point in bringing religion up though. Completely irrelevant imo.
@joymwendwa6959
@joymwendwa6959 4 жыл бұрын
@@professionalpotato4764 1. It's not religion to me. It's a relationship with Christ to me. 2. Jesus is my life and it's totally normal for me to pray for someone. I have the same freedom to share prayers etc just like anyone else has freedom to share their opinion or leave a comment. 3. Someone encouraging someone by saying "Good job. Never give up. Keep going" is the same as me saying prayers etc to encourage someone. So yeah...totally normal for me. Thank you
@徐野-w8r
@徐野-w8r 3 жыл бұрын
Manythanks
@DianaMi1
@DianaMi1 3 жыл бұрын
@@joymwendwa6959 "you don't forget to grow in Him in the process". Yeah, you can pray for yourself, but do not insinuate anything about anyone else following your own religion. That's the problematic line in your reply.
@DanielJMadden
@DanielJMadden 4 жыл бұрын
"Get better shots than Jessica" lol love it!
@徐野-w8r
@徐野-w8r 3 жыл бұрын
Hihi,nicetomeetyou
@simeslays_oninsta
@simeslays_oninsta 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who wanna see Jessica model? Like a photographer tries to model challenge?😍
@simeslays_oninsta
@simeslays_oninsta 3 жыл бұрын
Up!
@徐野-w8r
@徐野-w8r 3 жыл бұрын
BeautifulGirls.Relax
@sakuranovaryan9261
@sakuranovaryan9261 3 жыл бұрын
I really like Jessica's personality she's like big sister...
@chichi2931
@chichi2931 3 жыл бұрын
she actually did a "photoshoot as a model" video long time ago
@stepford702
@stepford702 4 жыл бұрын
"Are we ready for some arthritis?" Truest statement of all time. My wrists, hands, and knees are SHOT. I was a photographer for 20 years. I quit about 4 years ago. I really just can't do it anymore. But it was truly a dream job. If you can make a living by creating something... you are living the dream.
@filmecke2618
@filmecke2618 3 жыл бұрын
What are u doing now :D
@stepford702
@stepford702 3 жыл бұрын
@@filmecke2618 I'm an in home caregiver. But I specifically care for people who are quadriplegic and people who have traumatic brain injuries. It still physically takes a toll on my arthritis but it's not as hard on my hands and wrists.
@stepford702
@stepford702 3 жыл бұрын
@@filmecke2618 I love what I do now too. I feel like I am making a small difference in the world. But I can tell you, it's an extreme pay cut.
@filmecke2618
@filmecke2618 3 жыл бұрын
@@stepford702 reading it was interesting I hope you’ll doing fine ☺️✨ thanks for your good work
@esterhalagova92
@esterhalagova92 4 жыл бұрын
In the first round I liked Jessica's photos more but in the second round i feel like Maha's photos stood out more. It was obvious she took and adapted advices from you and it made her better. Really good video Jessica!!!
@star5839
@star5839 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the outfit of the model doesn't go well with the place they are shooting in ...
@TA0L1U
@TA0L1U 4 жыл бұрын
It could work.
@bzeishaj
@bzeishaj 4 жыл бұрын
That’s usually how fashion photography works most of the time... it allows the outfit to stick out and be seen as more exquisite
@bleu9396
@bleu9396 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's really nice though, it gives contrast to the subject being photograph, a lot of fashion photography are like that
@xtonibx5770
@xtonibx5770 4 жыл бұрын
I think that's the point. Both outfits were very .. elegant and editorial. I think the contrast of the nature green and the glamorous blacks and whites are intended.
@徐野-w8r
@徐野-w8r 3 жыл бұрын
Manythanks
@anneko6842
@anneko6842 4 жыл бұрын
Can we see the editing too? Cause that has a lot to do with the final product as well
@jerichastudio8123
@jerichastudio8123 3 жыл бұрын
There are people who don't have a photography classes or not a pro but their shots are awesome because their eyes are gifted.
@desirrearrais5209
@desirrearrais5209 4 жыл бұрын
"my lens were like 99$ on sale " the photographers that live in the U.S.A don't know how lucky they are . Here in Brazil, the same lens it's almost 700 Reais. The minimun salary of an employee here is 1.045,00 Reais. 1 dollar = 5,36 Reais. View for youself ....
@user-to4fo2xb8v
@user-to4fo2xb8v 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same lens and it was $2900 Mexican Pesos on sale plus shipping, that's about $140 USD so yeah, they have it good
@theaverageguy6068
@theaverageguy6068 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-to4fo2xb8v i still ended up paying over 150$ for my nifty fifty lense and I'm in the USA 😭
@lavacaqueri5454
@lavacaqueri5454 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it was on sale. 700 reais is about 130 dollars, so not that far of tbh
@martin931018
@martin931018 4 жыл бұрын
Here, in Argentina i don't even want to look for prices. LATAM understands
@user-to4fo2xb8v
@user-to4fo2xb8v 4 жыл бұрын
@@theaverageguy6068 on sale? that's a bit too much if it was a 'sale' :(
@PS-co8ux
@PS-co8ux 4 жыл бұрын
Maha’s photos are more interesting, fresh, out of the box while Jessica is just “I’ve seen it before” kinda photos
@obandutra1
@obandutra1 4 жыл бұрын
To me it's the difference between their backgrounds. I think a lot of instagram and modern modeling photography is very within Jessica's style so that's why it's hard to differentiate yourself from the rest. It's a very commercial space with specific standards. Whereas being a photography student teaches you about the art of photography within the fine arts space and so other things are important, but those people are not necessarily selling or having their own businesses. I don't consider Maha's photography 'fashion' portraiture like Jessica's because fashion photography has become a very specific thing. I think Maha's photographs are more portraits, not fashion portraits. For example, Jessica's approach is definitely learned through what's seen online, which many times has that blurriness in the background - when she spoke about putting it in F1.8. You see that a lot in TikTok photographers when they get random people from the streets. It's definitely a challenge to blend both though between composition, trends, innovation, and have a sense of depth. I find it really interesting when portrait artists (not fashion photographers) end up making portraits for fashion magazines when they never intended to be in that space.
@PS-co8ux
@PS-co8ux 4 жыл бұрын
@@obandutra1 that was just my opinion. Maha’s photos are more interesting. Jessica’s photos are good but I’ve seen that a lot all the time :) again that is just my opinion
@obandutra1
@obandutra1 4 жыл бұрын
@@PS-co8ux Oh no I wasn't defending or attacking anyone, and I absolutely agree with your opinion. I find it super interesting to hypothesize why that might be. Full respect for both of their styles :)
@thea5817
@thea5817 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same! There is "something" in Maha's photos that really catches my attention, whereas Jessica's ones are just smooth!
@alexandravanpaassen5441
@alexandravanpaassen5441 3 жыл бұрын
Maha studies art and has photography courses, she doesn't only study photography, which I guess has a very big influence on that.
@camilanieto8673
@camilanieto8673 4 жыл бұрын
you should do one that’s like “mediocre broke college student VS professional photographer” challenge, and invite me 😌
@徐野-w8r
@徐野-w8r 3 жыл бұрын
BeautifulGirls.Relax
@PurposefulHomeschool
@PurposefulHomeschool 3 жыл бұрын
Maha's images were more thought-out and she needed a lot fewer shots to get excellent ones. The fact that she didn't shoot portraits often is pretty mind-blowing considering how well she did. The image with the hand shadowing the face was jaw-dropping. As a former professional photographer, I prefer fast primes over the 24-70 2.8 (which I own) hands down - especially for full body shots. Headshots are beautiful with the 24-70 but I always shot those at 70mm when possible to avoid lens distortion. I also hate the flat on-camera flash. A reflector would have been so much more flattering, or off-camera flash. An urban setting would have been really cool for this shoot.
@TalkWithJoce
@TalkWithJoce 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I think a less soft, more modern, luxury, pristine, dramatic, or glam background would've matched the outfits better. Like say a ballroom or fancy opera theater or high-end hotel for example or by a grand piano or like a Moulin Rouge feel. Or all black or all white. Or maybe even a bold, bright, cool pop of drama color like red or royal blue or possibly even bold orange or bold, cool yellow, etc. Glass, metal. Maybe sleek, shiny. Or if nature, a nature with more drama to it like maybe pristine snowy winter or Grand Canyon or really dark sculptural trees or tall, very manicured bushes or huge flock of birds flying or thunderstorm or metal sculpture or something. But this was a great exercise in just working with what weather and light and nature were around. I think the model probably wore outfits which really express her which is great and authentic! After I wrote this I glimpsed on her Instagram and sure enough I see tons of those luxury and drama vibes I was describing! Nice! I feel validated in the vibe and style cues I picked up.
@jamilgotcher365
@jamilgotcher365 Жыл бұрын
Maha would have struggled even more if the model was a new model rather than an experienced professional model. And also Maha learned to be more assertive with giving direction because she was able to watch Jessica and learn. I couldn't help but think the entire time, they needed an off camera flash or strobe.
@MatijaKaze
@MatijaKaze 4 жыл бұрын
i honestly dont understand why people are bothered by the concept of this video :/ saw someone say she should have done pro vs pro which she did already, people commented on the music choice in the background which was some silly some lofi. also left me super confused cuz the music was just fitting the moment. also people are mad that about it being pro vs student. but she gave her tips and advice. i dont get it because one of the best ways to learn is to see how someone else does it and then try and recreate that. plus i think we can all agree that she wasnt degrading her or embarrassing her in any way??????
@carmennelson5341
@carmennelson5341 4 жыл бұрын
I really liked how Maha kind of learned from Jessica by watching her, I think her second round of pictures were a lot better and we're super beautiful.
@brunosaadcine
@brunosaadcine 4 жыл бұрын
Jessica you should start including the settings both of you use for the photos, that would make the comparison more interesting
@thechemicalorchestra
@thechemicalorchestra 4 жыл бұрын
"Are you ready for some arthritis?" I wasn't ready to be reminded that I should be studying 😞
@theaverageguy6068
@theaverageguy6068 4 жыл бұрын
And i didn't need to be reminded I have arthritis and carpal tunnel 🤣😭 and im just 21 fml
@dg415
@dg415 4 жыл бұрын
the student just killed it! knocked it out of the park
@Sunshinehonk
@Sunshinehonk 4 жыл бұрын
Am I missing something? I would love to see all the photos on a blog or something. I thought at the end of the video there would be a photoreel comparing the two.
@Kim5SOS
@Kim5SOS 3 жыл бұрын
omg the black and white photo was the best👐🏼
@ZanStermecki
@ZanStermecki 4 жыл бұрын
Maha's strategy: be better than Jessica Challenge is over, we have a winner!
@anthonypc1
@anthonypc1 4 жыл бұрын
5:53 I love speckled natural light. Getting organic patches of the light and shadow that still flatter the face or enhance the expression is the tricky part
@KemiiLou
@KemiiLou 4 жыл бұрын
A really cool challenge would be to see you do different styles of photography, like documentary or street photography (not the ones when you ask for portraits) for example :)
@Ulrike121
@Ulrike121 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jessica! I would love to see a video where you show the photos you took but didn't choose! And tell us why you didn't choose those but other ones?
@aranzoa
@aranzoa 4 жыл бұрын
She won't lol
@ciaradiam0nd
@ciaradiam0nd 4 жыл бұрын
I assumed this video would be you, as the pro photographer showing “dos and donts” that would set a pro apart from a student. I did not however think it would be you literally putting yourself up against a student who clearly from the get go felt insecure because obviously you’re going to “win”. Ouch. This should have been thought through better.
@teduaweddings
@teduaweddings 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t even agree more with you. It’s embarrassing for the professional, she should do professional versus professional, and see who gets the better shots.
@iwantabiscuitplz
@iwantabiscuitplz 4 жыл бұрын
I think it was more meant to be about comparing than competing but I could be wrong
@paige_archer
@paige_archer 4 жыл бұрын
I see what you mean, but as a student myself I thought it was helpful to see the difference in how they interact with the model. I think the student in the video actually got more confident as the video went on and I don’t think Jessica meant it to be malicious in any way. Plus the student agreed to do the video in the first place
@bxhija7898
@bxhija7898 4 жыл бұрын
it really depends on how you look at it. to me, and a few others, we see it as something to help us improve on with our photos. it helped me to compare my work to jessica’s without having to ask her personally. i think it was a fun video, and i didn’t see anything negative about it. everyone was having a great time and were doing their own thing.
@victoriaveeart
@victoriaveeart 4 жыл бұрын
Regardless mahas was better so 🤷🏾‍♀️
@Elena-Studio
@Elena-Studio 4 жыл бұрын
Someone should make a video where you help beginner photographers learn how to guide models, be confident behind a camera, and tips on shots versus just a challenge where no one learns anything.
@Saveara.
@Saveara. 3 жыл бұрын
u know the respect i have for Jessica has increased so much after seeing how she is encouraging new people to learn from her. i wanna do internship in film making but none of my seniors are letting me in because i might get better :( i wish i could have such experience...
@therabbithat
@therabbithat Жыл бұрын
They just want you to pay them because it's tough to pay the bills doing what you love. They love photography, not teaching
@reignforrest4116
@reignforrest4116 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's because I'm new photography myself but I liked Maha's photos more
@jessicamartinez8239
@jessicamartinez8239 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no you’re definitely new to photography lol
@mj-yd4fz
@mj-yd4fz 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with Jessica Martinez, maybe you just have a different vision. I am a visual arts student too, almost 10 years doing photography and I still don't like the "commercial" style portrait, still both of them had good shoots
@bereal8253
@bereal8253 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessicamartinez8239 Could you provide some insight on why you believe Maha's photography is significantly worse? I would love to know, I'm also a student and in the process of learning.
@jessicamartinez8239
@jessicamartinez8239 3 жыл бұрын
@@bereal8253 I never said that? I liked Maha’s images and thought they were good for her being a beginner. I was just saying as someone who is not new to photography, I know that Jessica has the technical skills, and is able to pose her models with ease, and has invested in good equipment. Maha still did a good job. Art is subjective of course, but if you look at professional work Jessica has that factor.
@bereal8253
@bereal8253 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessicamartinez8239 Ah got you, that is what i wanted to know, those technical skills you mentioned reflected in the photograph itself that would differentiate them. It's difficult to understand the line where artwork becomes professional, without being stale and something that's already been seen a million times. Also, i don't believe the rest of the factors matter, whether the photographer was vocal or able to pose the model with ease is something that a viewer of the image would never know.
@masuta.tonberi
@masuta.tonberi 3 жыл бұрын
Jessica came across a bit too arrogant and a bit up herself in this video. Both had some cracking shots, but Maha's B&W photo was fantastic, let's be honest.
@clouds8668
@clouds8668 3 жыл бұрын
Agree! A little? I think way too much.
@ann8860
@ann8860 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree too
@KarinZibrat
@KarinZibrat 3 жыл бұрын
She knows what she's doing, I didn't find it arrogant at all.
@lucasgarcia1274
@lucasgarcia1274 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t find her arrogant at all! She just knows what she’s doing!
@RachaelChine
@RachaelChine 3 жыл бұрын
My tots exactly, i don't like jessica’s energy
@josenotmarichan
@josenotmarichan 4 жыл бұрын
Jessica's and Maha's shots with the flash still look like a natural light shot. 😍 I use both natural light and flash, and I also like it when flash photos look natural.
@TA0L1U
@TA0L1U 4 жыл бұрын
We should give more love to Jessica! Definitely deserves more subscribers and likes. Some self claimed photographers on KZbin just overated and most of photos just preset, Lightroom and photoshop tricks. Cannot stand!!! Please call yourself as a digital artist not a photographer.
@ciaran6291
@ciaran6291 4 жыл бұрын
Well most photographers use things like lightroom/photoshop to edit and help style their shots so I wouldn't say you're not a photographer if you do use them !
@angelicalsensations
@angelicalsensations 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that Jessica deserves more subscribers and likes! Using photoshop/Lightroom or presets doesn't make anyone less of a photohrapher though, editing is a part of the process.
@TA0L1U
@TA0L1U 4 жыл бұрын
@@angelicalsensations 40% composition 40% lighting and 20% post process. It is hard to keep the balance. Otherwise I would consider them as digital artists not photographers. They use photos as base to create a media art. Photographers rely on composition and light to create art pieces. My opinion.
@angelicalsensations
@angelicalsensations 4 жыл бұрын
@@TA0L1U 20% post production for a whole shoot or for one photo? If you mean per shoot I think we'll have to agree to disagree, that's way too little for professional photography in my opinion. I wouldn't say using a preset or "photoshop tricks" (unsure what you mean by this? Turning up the brightness? Removing one zit? Where do you draw the line?) turns a photographer into a digital artist by default. Again, editing is part of the process.
@TA0L1U
@TA0L1U 4 жыл бұрын
@@angelicalsensations not referring to time but he emphasis and planning process. I am an old school. To illustrate my point: Peter McKinnon vs Peter Lindbergh. I know their level are not even close but it is a funny 🤩 comparison since they have the same first name. McKinnon’s photo appealing as well but it is a digital art not photography. I consider him as a content creator or a digital artist but not a photographer. I do lots post editing as well but I am currently working on how to minimize the post editing process and give more thoughts on composition and lighting. ✌️ thanks for sharing your thoughts and nice chat.
@d1xita
@d1xita 4 жыл бұрын
Maha has such a contagious laugh
@Lisobrn
@Lisobrn 4 жыл бұрын
So I have to say I liked the first girls pictures better. The professional photographer cut off the elbow, she underexposed and had scattered light in her images. The first girls though her direction was not as on point had good lighting, great poses and overall I just liked those pictures better
@laylagherfal7423
@laylagherfal7423 4 жыл бұрын
Maha’s laugh is literally the cutest ☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️😍😍😍🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
@debratorres1606
@debratorres1606 4 жыл бұрын
This video helps me a lot. I'm a photography student and yesterday i had my first photoshoot with a model and i did it so bad, but now with Jessica's video i know what to improve for my next one. Thank you so so so much Jess
@kawaiipotato1788
@kawaiipotato1788 4 жыл бұрын
"someone who has barely any experience in photography VS Pro Photographer" As a nearly graduated photography student myself, I couldn't help but wonder what this video was supposed to show. like ok cool... you're more professional, you know what you want in your images and know your gear very well, whereas she was struggling with directions and handling the camera, making mistakes like anyone learning photography would. Chill lofi beats while you shoot and basically Benny Hill show theme while Maha was shooting... that's just straight up mean. Like other people have commented as well: This should have been thought through better, instead of showing off against an inexperienced and insecure student. You even said it yourself that she was very insecure.
@TheCosmicNote
@TheCosmicNote 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@emilyrisner7238
@emilyrisner7238 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with this! I feel like there is a huge difference between helpful criticism and bragging/show off criticism. I feel like Maha was a good sport through it all, but it gave me a very “you’re okay but I’m better” type vibe.
@ninoslanguagejourney6002
@ninoslanguagejourney6002 4 жыл бұрын
@@emilyrisner7238 I got the same impression like "aww cute baby stil learning to walk" but the funny partnis while the student seemed more insecure, I think if you pick top 3 shots of the shoot she'd cover all 3 of them at least in my opinion
@surreal5864
@surreal5864 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree I don’t know if I’m seeing it wrong but all I could hear is maha trying to seem like she’s better. And idk if you’re a frequent viewer on this channel but she’s not showing off she’s just a talkative person, the model discreetly even brought to light that Jessica is better. This video wasn’t to show who’s better but to expand people who are in a similar position to mahas perspective on how they conduct their photography and also the difference between taught and self-taught photographers
@kawaiipotato1788
@kawaiipotato1788 4 жыл бұрын
@@surreal5864I fully understand that the video was meant to show the difference between self taught and educated photographers. Where Jessica went wrong however is, that she'd have to compare her work to someone who has been in business as long as she has been, but completed a formal education, not comparing herself against someone who is only starting out in photography. I think Maha was just very insecure in her own work as well as standing in front of a camera herself.
@jensenvu3525
@jensenvu3525 4 жыл бұрын
Jessica is so good... her quality of work is just outstanding.
@HappyPineapple99
@HappyPineapple99 2 жыл бұрын
Amateur photographer here in 2022 binging all your old content! Loving it xx
@SURREALL69
@SURREALL69 4 жыл бұрын
Wow the way she puts that funky music on the student 🤣🤣
@raulmedina1859
@raulmedina1859 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed it
@GingerDrums
@GingerDrums 3 жыл бұрын
"Mixed media" is being used here as a euphemism for "collage". Be proud of what you do, that confidence is the main difference between the two photographers. Models are at ease when they are being directed.
@strang3sagie
@strang3sagie 4 жыл бұрын
I think it would be interesting for you and her to go over the photos afterward and compare to see what changes you would make as a professional. Comparing the differences is interesting to me and also I think it would be good to learn from that comparison too- I lot of my photos end up looking like the student photographers photos and I don’t know why
@grafix8789
@grafix8789 3 жыл бұрын
I love the friendly banter from Maha towards Jessica. I just know by her tone she adores and respects Jess to the moon. As we all do. Keep up the great work Jess!!!
@phortheone
@phortheone 4 жыл бұрын
Strangely, I'm more introverted yet I enjoy taking pictures of people !! I got to overcome my awkwardness though. 17 atm and idk where life will take me, still deciding whether or not I should go to school for photography or for something else but you inspire me Jessica! Looking forward to your online course tomorrow.
@josenotmarichan
@josenotmarichan 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes my awkwardness lightens up the mood of the shoot and can make my clients loosen up a bit. 😂
@phortheone
@phortheone 4 жыл бұрын
@@josenotmarichan haha that's good to know
@daniellemarie8420
@daniellemarie8420 3 жыл бұрын
I think Maha did a great job at choosing the poses and the view behind and Jessica did a great job at choosing the best light. If Maha's photos had the same lights/shadows I would choose her photos because they are more interesting
@tayehcreations5557
@tayehcreations5557 4 жыл бұрын
i don't know why but Maha reminded me of Lauren from Cimorelli
@alexia4655
@alexia4655 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah!! Their personalities and way of talking are matching a lot.
@milliesaflores6731
@milliesaflores6731 4 жыл бұрын
they have the same face shape as well, and their voice kinda sounds similar too
@Coffee.for-Breakfast
@Coffee.for-Breakfast 3 жыл бұрын
The student is so pleasant and kind 🥰 really great energy, I feel like even the most camera shy people would feel comfortable being photographed by her
@shikachen7854
@shikachen7854 3 жыл бұрын
I like the lights and shades MAHA uses in her photos.
@jufranz6726
@jufranz6726 4 жыл бұрын
Her laugh is contagious 🤣
@vic7623
@vic7623 4 жыл бұрын
Watching the video almost at the end and I think Jess just taught me how to use flash properly 😂
@Nearest_Neighbor
@Nearest_Neighbor 3 жыл бұрын
Right? 😅👍
@doflya129
@doflya129 4 жыл бұрын
You both have such beautiful pictures I feel like the major difference from the photos is the blurriness of the background and lighting.
@bleach_meds599
@bleach_meds599 4 жыл бұрын
Student photographer: *takes photos* Pro photographer: "I'm going all the way down to 1.8.." *smug duck face* Supposedly us: 👁👄👁
@tiagodacunha_
@tiagodacunha_ 4 жыл бұрын
Ahahahahaha same! I instantly said "all the way down to 1.8??? pro????"
@doflya129
@doflya129 4 жыл бұрын
@@tiagodacunha_ wait what does 1.8 mean. I’m not a photographer as you can tell
@jamesd8671
@jamesd8671 4 жыл бұрын
e@@doflya129 Its the aperture setting. regulates amount of light but more importantly regulated depth of field
@doflya129
@doflya129 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesd8671 oh okay thank you
@CalebWolf
@CalebWolf 4 жыл бұрын
I always go down to my lowest setting when taking portrait shots.
@FacebookQueen
@FacebookQueen 3 жыл бұрын
Love how you described her as an “introvert photographer” that’s how I would call myself. This was great to see the two different perspectives. Great video ❤️
@aldeen1982
@aldeen1982 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh the biggeste difference is the color grading at the end. The first "pro" shots were highly edited in LR and Photoshop. Thats the difference.
@candy2325
@candy2325 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! Post editing changes the game big time!
@EdwardKilner
@EdwardKilner 4 жыл бұрын
Jessica, this was one of your best videos. You were working two delightful young ladies, each of whom were quite intelligent in their approach and serious about doing their best. Good luck to all three of you.
@pabmore
@pabmore 4 жыл бұрын
I could totally ask Maha out for a photo date ;)))) she's so cute
@dancinboi89
@dancinboi89 3 жыл бұрын
Omg that lil tip on adjusting your on camera strobe was literally the perfect piece of info I needed. 😭🙏🏾
@IndigoA144
@IndigoA144 4 жыл бұрын
Defenition of introverted Photographer.... i just saw myself in her the whole time wow, didnt know how this looks to others. I dont know if its good? There are alot of people who said to me "well if you cant speak up its not the right job for you" ,but for me its like i need to get startes and then warm up. Im just more cautios about everything, i dont want to get into personal space right from start.. i How do i get more self cofidence, guess thats the biggest problem,also not wanting to hurt the other party
@mavfan1
@mavfan1 4 жыл бұрын
Talk to the model like you would any another human being because they are. Be positive (don’t say “that’s not working” or “that looks bad”) just move on to something different.
@sofiazarlenga
@sofiazarlenga 4 жыл бұрын
I think you should start practicing more trying to speak and say more stuff. Little bit at a time you are gonna get better and be less shy
@allegramess
@allegramess 4 жыл бұрын
I'm also introverted and have been a professional photographer for 5 years in LA! I think you can even tell your models straight up from the start that you're more introverted and it takes you a little while to warm up - people are open to that kind of transparency! Gradually, photography will become more comfortable and you'll be able to think about that side less and just focus on directing / complimenting the model :)
@abbi_ablaze
@abbi_ablaze 4 жыл бұрын
This is me too 😭😭😭🥺
@seeyafornow2642
@seeyafornow2642 3 жыл бұрын
make sure you form a rapport with the model first thing, just talk to them like you would with a friend and be positive! eventually with experience you'll become way more confident and won't have trouble speaking where you need to!
@candy2325
@candy2325 3 жыл бұрын
I think the location is giving senior portraits energy for sure lol. Also, post editing really does make a huge difference in the final result
@nothingness7580
@nothingness7580 4 жыл бұрын
Jessica tryin’ to put emphasis in saying “thank you” to the model hoping she gets it too by the student hahaha 😂
@jacobkitchens
@jacobkitchens 2 жыл бұрын
Great job by both of them. Photography isnt just gear or knowledge based, the creativity and style of the photographer play a big part as well
@dianagr4992
@dianagr4992 3 жыл бұрын
The outfit is just not matching the location. I can hardly focus with this combo. I don't know if it's just me, but maybe an 80's home set up or something more urban would match
@lagomarian1456
@lagomarian1456 3 жыл бұрын
Hihi,nicetomeetyou
@martisan1400
@martisan1400 2 жыл бұрын
Best advice i get from this video is " if it's weird it's good for a photo", it's true and practical 👌
@kingweddingmedia
@kingweddingmedia 4 жыл бұрын
You might have already done something like this before, but I think instead of something like this that could come across as “look how good I am compared to this student” to some, perhaps a challenge along the lines of this but the pro gets an entry level camera with a kit lens, and the student gets a high end camera with a top of the line portrait lens would be a more interesting video. I didn’t read into it like this, but I can see how many might see this video as quite egotistical.
@Vee09015
@Vee09015 3 жыл бұрын
I lovee Maha’s giggles!!
@amdenis
@amdenis 4 жыл бұрын
So cool. When I first started about 45 years ago I did a lot of time-consuming setup, although it was then about 90% a hobby, with about 5% paid and 5% professional and related learning. I worried about the time spent, the film costs, the development time... Every shot had to be a lot more planned. After about 10 years I no longer had concerns as it was much more creative, and the money supported the costs without issue. I started to get a bit of a voice, and realized how far I had to go (and still have to, even decades later). After another decade of shooting (in the late-90’s to maybe 2010, the challenge became staying creative, and I started focusing mainly on high-end portraiture for wealthy family, estate photos etc using everything from 35mm to medium and large format. The money was good, although I only shot maybe 15 hours a week. During the last decade plus it has become more about fun and trying new things, and digital cameras have been a major part of that- and especially mirrorless. Most importantly, the tools have progressed so far since the late-80’s. I know people say the gear and tools don’t matter, and while that may be the case for some types of shooters, subjects and styles of photography, I feel that the new post options alone has exploded the creative possibilities. I no longer have to use a bunch of lighting and related gear to craft so heavily during acquisition; and instead, can decide in post where I want to take and tweak things- far beyond what we used to do in the 70’s - 90’s in the dark room. I feel we are entering a new era of acquisition and post all over again, where any inherent technical or related limitations will no longer be the major issue, but rather, what creative composition, subject and post ideas you have. Most cameras have advanced to the point where lens choices and digital post are the major factors now. For me, this is wonderful, as I have so much I need to explore and learn still, and being able to do this so easily is amazingly engaging and fun- and the fact that there are no longer chemicals and hundreds of pounds of supporting gear, make it that much better!
@pholomotshidisi845
@pholomotshidisi845 3 жыл бұрын
Showing how adjust exposure for the sky and model was a life saver
@londralupercio9369
@londralupercio9369 4 жыл бұрын
I love that maha laughs after everything 😂
@kasidycunningham7151
@kasidycunningham7151 3 жыл бұрын
is anyone not gonna talk about how Maha's life is literally the cutest!
@kasidycunningham7151
@kasidycunningham7151 3 жыл бұрын
laugh I meant
@yoshis-m9s
@yoshis-m9s 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are all beautiful!! And I love the models outfit
@anastasia.vasiliev
@anastasia.vasiliev 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the fact that you used both equipments. I learn so much from you. Thank you Jessica! 🧡
@constantin9536
@constantin9536 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one thinking that Maha is prettier than the model?
@anchomia
@anchomia 4 жыл бұрын
you shouldnt bring others down for someone! their all beautiful
@nikeossler
@nikeossler 4 жыл бұрын
the black and white photo maha took was amazing!
@rishikapaul4740
@rishikapaul4740 4 жыл бұрын
Came to know Jessica through Brandon Woelfel, she is an amazing photographer. I am slowly taking inspirations from her although I am a Honours student. For me, photography is a gateaway from this pressures of life and love to see the world in a new dimension. I am very grateful that I came to know her and taking some of her ideas for polishing my skills.
@alepnce
@alepnce 4 жыл бұрын
mahas black & white photo made my jaw drop 😍😍😍😍
@zoecooke4082
@zoecooke4082 3 жыл бұрын
a HUGE difference is technology. Jessica's camera does a lot of the work for her that a Nikon D3400 won't do for its average user. Still interesting to see the difference!
@phamtrieuduong1619
@phamtrieuduong1619 3 жыл бұрын
Jessica's pictures are more natural with soft and subtle color tone . Both women are amazing.
@lagomarian1456
@lagomarian1456 3 жыл бұрын
Funny,Thanks
@kaely6286
@kaely6286 4 жыл бұрын
Jessica’s outfit is so cute!!
@tiffanyanderson7115
@tiffanyanderson7115 4 жыл бұрын
Your work is incredible. I cannot believe you’re self taught! As a beginner, it gives me hope!
@freabisch
@freabisch 4 жыл бұрын
Jessica I would like to see where you photograph a group photo (Pro. Photogrpaher vs. Fashion stylist perspective) xoxo
@allyssaniris825
@allyssaniris825 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please show us how you edited your photos specifically for these shoots? I love how smooth and golden it looks
@Issyeva
@Issyeva 3 жыл бұрын
I like Maha's overall. Maha seemed to be more professional in directing the model and definitely in regards to the outcome of the photographs. Her work was stunning! Jessicas directions involve an awkward laugh at her own jokes which weren't funny and made the situation feel odd and trying too hard. Her way of directing was "Can you do something were you, yeah bring in your shoulder yeah" (which the model already was doing).. "let's do one of you just standing" (where the model already is in a standing position and then creates her own pose whilst standing). " OR where Jessica says "Have like one leg out a little bit more" she was not specific on which leg, her leg was out already and only moved it out the tiniest bit. I feel the model is creating her own poses with Jessica and then Jessica is just agreeing, like again when the model had her arm up with her hand over her head and near her face, she just says "yeah, that's beautiful, very nice, I like the hand" Her arm was already there on her own. The point being is that the model knew how to pose and create the look. I didn't see Jessica directing her and I didn't see any creative compositional ideas and not utilizing the wondrous space and is just stuck in one little zone. Personally, I thought Maha did more, as she specified what and how she wanted her to be positioned. Adventured to spacious areas, was also creative with her shots. Jessicas lighting to me seemed dull and had light and shadows where I don't think there should have been. Jessica seemed introverted herself and a slight bit more towards being extroverted only when throwing out jokes and laughing at her jokes which seemed like a cover-up for her anxiousness. I think they both can take a photograph, however, id probably go with Maha as I feel propelled towards her talent, which she seems to show throughout her work. Also, the black and white photo was amazing. Maha's style is just my personal preference of choice :)
@keepsmiling1360
@keepsmiling1360 3 жыл бұрын
I guess maha is like in her beginning phase and a bit unsure about the poses she wants but Jessica has more experience hence has more clear direction. I feel its important to make your model comfortable before so Jessica was joking a bit around. I really liked the shadow effect in Jessica's photo as it just adds depth to photo but its just personal opinion Overall I think both did a fantastic job and I would like to work with both of them
@remberkd9585
@remberkd9585 3 жыл бұрын
I totally disagree with you, she didn't need to do unnecessary directing that you are referring to because the model is already so good and knows what she is doing, her job was to validate the model's pose and adjust it a little bit so it looks the best in the photo (also there are non-verbal words that only the model will understand since they have a connection at that moment so your example of "Have like one leg out a little bit more" and "yeah, that's beautiful, very nice, I like the hand" says a lot to the model than to an outsider) the only awkward moment the KZbin channel owner made is her giving her back to the model while talking to the camera when there were no need to it.... other than that there were no awkwardness in taking the actual photos
@videocarler
@videocarler 4 жыл бұрын
beautiful laugh from Maha and obviously her work. Perfect.
@Jetstreamhustla
@Jetstreamhustla 4 жыл бұрын
The whole location is senior portraits LOL
@candy2325
@candy2325 3 жыл бұрын
Facts! The location was dry 😅 they should have scouted a different location
@scaredtosharemynameonthein1578
@scaredtosharemynameonthein1578 2 жыл бұрын
Your photography videos are so helpful, thanks for uploading
@jennytai88
@jennytai88 3 жыл бұрын
Maha is like me in photo taking, although I am not as technical but the type of feeling she is going for is what I would have gone for. I did almost do fine art.
@lagomarian1456
@lagomarian1456 3 жыл бұрын
Bestexperience
@achraf9946
@achraf9946 4 жыл бұрын
what are you shooting your video with? looks super soft like camera from 2005
@oisingaffney1353
@oisingaffney1353 4 жыл бұрын
“I have a touch screen, we’re not that outdated” while I’m sitting here with a 2012 T2i
@thomasngo2504
@thomasngo2504 4 жыл бұрын
Its ok i shoot on a T3i currently using an old camera isnt bad as it seems you just have to learn to be happy eith it and work with it rather than being like" ugh i use an old camera"
@oisingaffney1353
@oisingaffney1353 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasngo2504 I’ve been working with it for the past 4 years I am happy with it, it does everything it needs to do
@kerrykennedy6398
@kerrykennedy6398 4 жыл бұрын
This was fun to watch. I've never done portrait shots, but I felt like I learned a lot from watching yall and I want to try it out. To expose the sky and the model, you should expose for both in separate shots and layer them together in photoshop. Use a tripod and a very still model
@beriberries
@beriberries 3 жыл бұрын
am I the only one that likes jess photos more? but I can't argue maha's first photo is such a bomb
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