ANTM Needs to APOLOGIZE To This Model

[@kiragrape7773]

One thing is creating drama, but taking advantage of someone's health issues is really unhinged

[@origamipein18]

Super unhinged. ):

[@Itri_Vega]

The lighting issue is pretty much on the same level as making legally blind Amanda in cycle 3 walk in a dark venue. They knew about each respective condition and tried to get drama footage out of it.

[@cd55896]

Making an epileptic person be around strobe lights is worse though. Siezures can kill you. This girl literally could have died. 😐

[@brico9785]

@@cd55896 they also made Nyle who is deaf do a photo shoot in complete darkness and then gave him crap when he didn’t do as good as he normally does

[@cd55896]

@@brico9785 That's so shitty that it's almost funny. The poor guy. Wtaf.

[@alerios9127]

Isabella has epilepsy , the next photoshoot was with flashing lights too.

[@Madkalibyr]

??!! Dude, where is OSHA ffs

[@LibraInSeattle]

I have epilepsy. I can’t imagine trying to be a model or actor and have to deal with the constant flashing of lights. I have stopped going to concerts because they have so many strobe lights these days. (I sound old lol “these days”).

[@shutupnvibe]

It’s sad that people don’t even care to accommodate those with epilepsy. I don’t even have it but man flashing lights give me such a headache & dizziness every time I see them. I couldn’t imagine having epilepsy & being randomly thrown off by them.

[@Topmodelhk]

I don’t know why Isabella would even try out casting and antm approved her into the show. It’s just unbelievable

[@funnyshuttler]

Lethal

[@VioletWaves44]

"I leave my house... periodically" 😂 I mean, same. Your choice of words cracks me up.

[@keltzy]

Honestly, putting Isabella into that situation upset me far more than Tahlia. The execution was questionable, but I can at least see the point they were trying to make with Tahlia and the challenges she could face in the industry. But there is zero justification for knowingly putting Isabella into a situation that could trigger her epilepsy. There are a lot of dubious moments on the show which I give a pass because it's (in hindsight, at least) obviously trying to be an entertaining TV show before anything else. That was not one of those moments.

[@PhoenyxV]

A really simple accommodation that doesn't give an "unfair advantage" for Isabella is to just... turn off the strobes for her walk. They're not adding anything extra to the show. Heck, turn them off for all the models, they're pointless and besides epilepsy (which isn't something to be taken lightly) they can trigger migraines and a lot of other problems. I frequently have trouble with strobes at concerts, they make my eyes hurt and I usually have to put my head down and/or close my eyes during segments of shows that are using them.

[@elizabethmaturin8107]

Did anyone else catch that Jessica‘s earrings in the photo are basically what they made the other girl takeoff saying they look like bracelets????

[@yafelleon]

I'm watching this episode now, and as soon as I saw the picture I was like... wait a minute... rewinded to double check and ran to the comments to see if anyone noticed hahaha I feel seen now, thanks! 😂❤

[@OyayoTheStorm]

I'm sure that, in the application process, they asked about neurodiversities, and how it could affect one's performance, and they might've used that to ruin her chances. I, personally, found that disgusting. I lost a niece to a seizure from a malfunctioning bathroom light, so I was So hurt for her

[@jaybee4118]

@@nellrose4699neurodiversity as a term was only just around around then, but it doesn’t mean they wouldn’t know. Epilepsy was very much a known thing, and the thing most people knew about it was blinking lights can cause seizures.

[@OyayoTheStorm]

And for Tahlia to feel bad about her skin...? The way this show plays on one's insecurities, as if it's to... Make them stronger, or to break them to eliminate themselves...? U-u-ugh... It's heartbreaking, Especially when hers was from a childhood accident/trauma

[@shawnswint1521]

This is Why I sat out this Year's Victoria's Secret Show Revival, The Moment it was Announced that Tyra was gonna be in it, I was like "Nope, Not Watching"!!!

[@ScorpionTDC]

My understanding is that when an actual designer is featured for the challenge, they get the final say on who wears what. I suspect there was a dissonance between production - who handles casting - wanting to feature Tahlia (they very much made her scars her defining storyline of the season and regularly chose to not cover them/allow Tahlia to talk about them) and the designer - who controls the outfits - not feeling the same way. Still pretty poor treatment of Tahlia and unfair, but that’s why the show’s handling seemed contradictory. Different people were making those calls. The Isabella stuff is way awful. Production knew she had Epilepsy before that runway show; they weren’t taken by surprise. Either they put the strobe lights there hoping for an incident at her expense (absolutely terrible) or they simply didn’t care enough to make any type of accommodation for basic safety (not any better).

[@LibraInSeattle]

I had to fast forward through the strobe lights because it will trigger my seizure disorder. I feel bad for Isabella having to walk the runway with the flashing lights. This beautiful lady with should never be made to feel bad about her scars. This show is so problematic.

[@jadebel7006]

Allison was actually semi-famous before the show as one of the very first Internet memes ,she was known as 'creepychan' a fourchan meme, I only heard about it recently

[@thechancan5254]

She was also an artist on deviantART.

[@gloriav7646]

As someone with epilepsy, this is insane and they were begging for a lawsuit. She could have totally had a seizure and then 100% they would have blamed it on her. "You should've said no" etc. This is strictly why I started putting my health first. You have to identify who has your interests in mind and those who care so little that they will risk your health.

[@DH-dl3ll]

Ok I don't want to give Tyra any unnecessary credence but I was in Jr High and High School in rural Oklahoma. You would not believe how common it was to be a teen and your goal to not only be a teen mom but also a high school dropout... this was before the Teen Mom show on MTV.

[@CeltycSparrow]

I absolutely agree with Tahlia. Tyra CHOSE HER as one of the finalist girls, because she supposedly saw potential in her as a model....that she was BEAUTIFUL. Tyra MUST HAVE KNOWN about her scars before she was chosen. So WHY choose her and give her this honor and then immediately cover her up in layers when ALL the other models are flaunting their beauty? What message is that giving to Tahlia? Or for that matter, ANY woman who has flaws that they feel insecure about? Tahlia has a POWERFUL story. She is a BURN survivor. She could INSPIRE so many others who are also burn survivors or suffer from physical or other handicaps. Instead, Tyra makes a MOCKERY of this poor girl. By covering her scars, Tyra is saying "You are NOT beautiful enough or worthy enough to be respected as a model in my game. We have to hide you." And then she HUMILIATES this poor girl at panel for pointing it out. Shame on Tyra. That is VERY BAD FORM. I actually find it VERY hypocritical and insulting that Tyra tells Sandra to take her scarf OFF because "she is covering her lusciousness" but yet THEY COVERED Tahlia's "lusciousness" on purpose.

[@aliselynch]

I will say, for the girls that would be watching Tyras talk show and top model back in the day, were likely also watching teen girls become famous on Teen Moms, too. And where i grew up, rural small town, girls were taught to get married and have babies asap, teen moms were not unusual here. I wanted to be one, too, and only was lucky it didnt happen when i was 16. I could see Tyra doing a survey-- the respondents were young girls watching reality tv, and back in those days, teen girls were taught very different ideals-- her survey likely would come up with a large number of girls hoping for that.

[@roeroe416]

She actually did blatantly address it SOME DESIGNERS are going to show it, where SOME DESIGNERS are going to hide it because they don’t like the look of scars what more was Tyra supposed to say she gave a black and white straight to the point explanation. This was a designer that didn’t want talea burn scars to show so it was hidden plain and simple. The fashion industry especially then was NOT COOKIE CUTTER, BFF, let’s make everyone happy. And talea got a REAL LIFE INDUSTRY LESSON

[@Mel__21]

Exactly this! I don’t get why she kept bringing it back to Tyra like it wasn’t her runway show. Some will like it others won’t that’s the reality.

[@ShindigEats]

"16 and Pregnant" and "Teen Mom" were popular reality TV shows around this time, so perhaps girls were being negatively influenced.

[@robotek148]

The naughtiest is the most covered? The good girl was more exposed? Make it make sense.

[@Judah98]

Of course they covered her up on purpose. They love to torture these models any chance they get. SICK! 😮

[@aarondavis2258]

And not to be in defense of Tyra, but she is right regarding the industry & Tahlia's burns. The industry at the end of the day are going to do what they feel is going to sell product. There's some designers who book models that may have scars or other conditions such as Vitiligo (shoutout to Winnie Harlow). And then there's designers that will cover it up as much as possible. Thankfully the industry is evolving & moving more towards diversity in all aspects.

[@julia.e.carpenter]

Isabella was eliminated first. I wonder another factor of elimination is because of due to being a flashing lights photoshoot and she having epilepsy, they wouldn’t want have problems with her?

[@dariakey5318]

If that was the case, they wouldn't cast her in the first place, IMO.

[@LoXena]

Using someone disability to make views should be illegal.

[@Look_look_at_my_cats]

I'm not epileptic, but I still hate flashing lights. Strobing of any kind, even sunlight through the trees while driving... makes me nauseous. It's only gotten worse with age. I'm in my 40s now and I can't handle it (or shaky cam, for that matter. My personal nightmare!). So many people have issues with strobe lights, I don't know why anyone would want to utilize them during a fashion show. It's such a liability, really!

[@vampskeldragon]

The idea of girls growing up too fast and wanting to be adults isn't uncommon, and especially wasn't during this cycle of Top Model back then, Jessica (you have to remember this was still in the early 2010's, so it's not fair to judge it by 2020's vision). It's not right obviously, but it is true. And regarding Tahlia's situation, Tyra DID address it blatantly and clearly. The designer for this fashion show didn't want to flaunt her scars, hence why she was in a different outfit. It could have been done better yes, but still. Unfortunately her scars would've negatively affected her modeling career, ANTM mistreatment or not. The industry nowadays is a bit more inclusive here and there, but even so her having scars would be an immediate turn off for many clients and agencies today, let alone back then. 😕

[@joylove2781]

They did Tahlia dirty! Even if they wanted to cover her scars for the runway challenge so they would not distract from the clothing they could have put her in a long-sleeve sheer ankle-length colorful dress that matched the other girls.

[@alexiskaho]

Did anyone else notice that at 25:55, the earrings in the picture look so much like the ones that Tyra made Amina take off because she didn’t “look like a model?!”

[@kattapilla]

Yessss!

[@brico9785]

I came to say the same thing

[@shawnadennis613]

Merry Christmas 🎄 everyone

[@afrosamuraiwarrior]

Merry Christmas! 🎄

[@BeautyMonster1000]

As someone who has plenty of scars myself, the way they treated Tahlia offends me an insane amount, honestly. If someone has that amount of confidence and self love while having scars, it's really screwed up for others to try and ruin it by pointing out their differences to them and then covering them up so others won't see them. They just wanted her to feel like she should be ashamed of having scars, as if the scars were her fault. Disgusting.

[@davidhartono24]

Something tacky from every first photoshoot started from cycle 7 until cycle 15. Cycle 7 = Model stereotype Cycle 8 = Political issue Cycle 9 = Smoking side effect Cycle 10 = Homeless photoshoot Cycle 11 = Voting for election Cycle 12 = Childhood Games with Teen Mom issue Cycle 13 = Childhood photoshoot Cycle 14 = Nude photoshoot with wearing one item from the mannequin Cycle 15 = Teen Bullying

[@Pinkrosesandagraveyard]

You have to remember that this aired when Teen Mom was super popular on MTV, and it did make a lot teen girls want to become teen moms. Now they want to be OF models.

[@raejinssi]

All the other issues aside, the way they portrayed the innocent little good girl vs bad girl concept was so weird to see. idk, might just be me.

[@minimalcat1987]

Jessica! At the time, Teen Mom was a huge tv show. It was madly popular and unfortunately did encourage a bunch of kids to make terrible choices 😆 family vloggers of today like JessFam are failed Teen Moms who made a youtube channel because they couldn't go the TV route. This is all too true and I hate it 😅 Tyra might be right about her survey at the time...

[@jadebel7006]

Actually wanting to be a 'teen-mom' actually was a trend in the early 2010's believe it or not ..not just in the U.S, the UK n AUS too

[@jaybee4118]

And before “teen-mom” was a thing. I can remember girls in my British school in the 80s who wanted, and/or did, drop out of school and become a mum at 15/16/17. For some it was all they thought they were here to do. It wasn’t anything religious either. Girls were often not encouraged to want to do more, or expect more.

[@megjulia4007]

Watching this show back with you, it's mind-blowing how consistently ableist (among other things) it is. Yikes.

[@cdn0199]

@26:42 If you can dodge a wrench.....you likely still won't dodge an ANTM insult

[@vyvii3293]

This shoot is awful. "Girls are growing up too fast" so... they infantilise grown women and tell them to look gorgeous. Also the teen mum bashing is awful. I was a teen mum, so was my mym and grandmum... and despite the challenges we've all raised emotionally intelligent, competent, confident and kind kids. Teen parents just need more support initially and encouragement. It's utterly vilified these days, but when my mym and gran were teen mums it was normal...

[@cd55896]

The earrings Aminat was wearing that "look like bracelets" (23:54) are the same ones Jessica had on in the photoshoot (25:55).

[@Itsmebik]

Thank you Jessica for serving so many ANTM contents lately. You always make my day :)

[@maplebarr]

I remember this season, and I LOVED Talia. I was so upset when they got rid of her, she is so beautiful inside and out.

[@KMPA531]

Jessica you should review the modeling show called , “The Face”. It’s more realistic and has things as a photographer I think you would appreciate.

[@msrain1235]

Well, after she was on ANTM, she was on a show called Model Latina and she was a runner up.

[@meganh4011]

Merry Christmas y'all🎄💞

[@TheSilentOneSpeaks]

😑 A ghetto black girl = bad girl? Smh! 🙄 Who approved this? And as a black woman, why was Tyra ok with promoting this stereotype? the same thing with the teen mom. A teenager getting pregnant doesn't make her a bad girl.

[@ckilbarger01]

I mean Tyra is right that some people would hire her and make her cover up her scars while others would want to flaunt it But there are better ways they could have done it at the runway show. For instance they could have put her in some skin tone tights or used some makeup

[@earl.c]

The strobe lights lady went through that for nothing

[@Itsjustmaisha]

As a kid who has a burn mark along my arm, it made me feel so bad and thought I’d have to cover up my arm all the time :/

[@ShepSteak]

I've been saying this for years about ANTM trying to trigger her health when people talk about how problematic the show is

[@white_genocide2050]

The photoshoot is also wierd acting like little girls

[@mrobertson8056]

I'm a burn survivor. It's been almost three years since it happened but I still have to deal with it. It was the worst thing I have ever gone through. I was 22 when it happened so I can't imagine how awful it was for a child. I know if I saw a model with scars like mine, it would make my day. I would love that brand. So yeah that's definitely messed of them

[@lizstyla88]

I agree that Celia looked better with the longer hair.

[@robsgamingchannel2077]

This season came around MTV's peak 16 & Pregnant and Teen Mom era, its not surprising some girls wanted to become a "teen mom" to get a shot at becoming famous

[@crowlynna]

During dodgeball I just said "hit me gently with the ball" so I could quit playing lmao. Especially when they made us play with boys in the elementary school. Sometimes we played together (at idk age 10, 11, 12???) Also I was always so amazed by Allison she is so pretty. I don't remember Thalia anymore but yeah what they did is messed up but not surprising. And what they did to Isabella I wish they were sued for that... they really got away with a lot of horrible things.

[@markanthonyguarino990]

where did you watch full episodes of antm? i cant find it here in youtube

[@MrsCrangisMcBasketball]

Merry Christmas, y'all! 🎄

[@Notboredd]

There’s a rumor about the purpose of the lights on the runway, and it was to cause some kind of drama and since they didn’t see any effect on the girl, they eliminated her.

[@malltours]

I ALWAYS disagreed with all of Paulina's takes. I think she was a terrible judge and hardly watched the seasons she was on.

[@robb2biago]

Natalie and Celia were my favorites this season. Oh tight, they got cut way at the end. What is Mistress Jay wearing?! Is he Zenon?!

[@erinnicole3170]

6:41 i highly doubt she was making that face at her. I bet they edited afterwards to look that way. Because youre absolutely right. Nothing she did warranted that expression.

[@justicedinosaur7302]

"You have a very small head" is the highest of compliments in Asia

[@estfer7]

the runway show had a designer.....

[@jeffsanders3453]

So to bring some contents in the “teen mom” topic, at this time, there were shows on MTV and other networks showcasing teen moms. While the show was suppose to discourage teen pregnancy, the girls on the shows became quick celebrities and on the cover of magazines and it almost had girls “inspire” to be a teen mom as well.

[@robotek148]

Absolute L0Lz "Talia, y, your gonna have to be naughty". It sounded like the designer just wanted to get the uncomfortable, upcoming situation over with. But she was all 'cheery' with lsabella.

[@KevinOt2]

It make no sense to cover Thalia like that during the fashion show, again it's completely rigged ; why does she has to hide her scars ?

[@minnie7827]

I leave my house periodically 🤣🤣🤣😭😭

[@kristam1240]

In earlier seasons of Top Model, the girls would be called out for not wanting to do a photoshoot showing too much skin. Now Tahlia wants to show skin, but they instead put an entire body suit on her? Clearly theres alot more Top Model judges are covering up than scars 🤔

[@G34R_B34R]

18:02 They got Isabella out there in Kimmy Gibbler cosplay.

[@sapphirexclaws]

there were so many pictures of sandra where she was smiling, giggling, animatedly hiding...and they picked this one...? also those strobe lights were horrible as a viewer who doesn't have epilepsy, it must have been horrendous for everyone there

[@TwiTheQueen]

I believe the teen pregnancy's because I'm almost certain this season was when "Teen Moms" was airing and because of that show I know many of the girls in my school who got pregnant and applied for it.

[@zarahsgarden2097]

12:39 😭 wth is wrong with these people

[@maydaze5934]

I don’t remember this season at all but the photo shoot was so creepy

[@origamipein18]

They're lucky Isabella didn't start seizing during that runway! D:

[@tj2375]

I'm glad Jessica calls out this "girls growing too fast" concept for the garbage it is!

[@carsonjones6479]

I used to have seizures so the flashing lights I understand how that’s triggering they should of known better not to they could of given her a seizure

[@36993020]

If i have insecurities about my face and my body, can i be your model and feel good about myself?

[@Jalil-wx7rh]

Jessica, don't ever play me in dodgeball. I'm too competitive. Lol

[@GirlGeek90]

Is Thalia doing better now?

[@juliemiller6966]

Are they seriously trying to hurt someone for real? They want someone to have a seizure and then they’re happy?

[@Topmodelhk]

Happy holiday ❤🎉 always love antm series. 🤭🤭🤭

[@msrain1235]

This wasn't a good idea for a shoot. Sorry! JMHO

[@TheKatarinaGiselle]

😂 I loved Zenon! And yeah…this was a weird concept….🤣 like WHAT?!

[@jacobcollins8649]

The fact that they choose a weird preteen photoshoot and she's pregnant. Wtf

[@rachzainhass]

Dodgeball in middle school was so tramuatic as in out tiny mussionary school we had to do it with competitive older boys in grades above us. My little sister and i would let the ball touch out legs ans go sit down to avoid in the face shots. Yes they had to tell them not to hit people in the face. I remember one boy in the 9th grade i was in the 5th would get hit. Sit out them come back and hit people again when the P.E teacher was not looking

[@Jalil-wx7rh]

Fo actually did get called 2nd in the callout order.

[@johncaceres7552]

Wait until the panel because tyra tries to help her understand what to expect with the scars. Im curious if it's good advice or cruel. Because I'm thinking what r people like in real life with clients that make decisions like this.

[@Jalil-wx7rh]

What was everyone's favorite childhood game?

[@caitlynglaser474]

Jays hair is literally purple

[@sarahrebeccatippling]

They cover up Thalia, but did they do the same to Winnie Harlow? Because that's double standards! Not that I'm surprised my ANTM but still...

[@thewanderingorphan]

13:49 still have her covered head to toe, and she's the only one.

[@Jalil-wx7rh]

Yeah, I thought I remembered liking this shoot. These pictures came out way too blurry on some.

[@cherrybomb1386]

Who got best photo?

[@keltzy]

Allison.

[@cherrybomb1386]

@keltzy cool. She is such a great model fr

[@mockingjayzzzz]

Can you make a reaction video episodes for Asias Next Top Model Cycle 5.

[@ryankcdr8367]

“Zoom zoom ZOOM”

[@graveyardbaby669]

They literally just copied Effy and put it out 😂

[@chunkysushibread]

Could someone possible have signaled Sandra to stop so she did ? Lol idk my guess I loved her picture

[@h.b.theminimalist489]

Her foot hit her other foot while she was walking and she did that pose to cover up that she almost tripped. She just refused to admit it so it wouldn't seem as bad. That's my guess, but if you look closely at her feet, the second before she stops, her foot hits the back of her other foot.

[@isaaclim8645]

Isabella was robbed

[@DESIGNS-vo1mt]

Is this a new show? I've seen a few of her videos about this show, but it looks old.

[@nicolasesparza8156]

isn't this body-shaming?

[@Andy224]

They did Tahlia wrong here. Seriously

[@henriklarssoneurovisioncha6515]

Sometimes I wonder why did people apply to the show, you can try out with an agency to become a model and not with ANTM.. 🤷🤷

[@shutupnvibe]

I think a lot might want to seek the approval of Tyra & some of the other judges too. Plus the fact that it puts them out there for other agencies to see them. Yet, I do agree with you. I couldn’t imagine applying after seeing what they put models through.

[@henriklarssoneurovisioncha6515]

@shutupnvibe This is cycle 12 , these girls had at least 10 cycle to prepare for the show .. and so , yeah why did people apply for the show?? ..

[@michelledawn7446]

It’s a major television show with exposure. The behind the scenes wasn’t talked about much so I don’t think they understood the extent of all the bad stuff happening. Some models from early seasons became TV stars and were well known, so these girls probably thought it could happen for them too.

[@keltzy]

Fame is pretty alluring, and this was the height of reality tv, so it's not very surprising to me. I do think there are a few girls who also would've had things preventing them from going the traditional route (age and location seem to be pretty common in this show). It also sounds like there were a few who tried out because friends asked them to.

[@mkxv1]

holy crap, I've seen rerun of this season,but looking back now with the knowledge we have after so many contestants came forward... oh it's so obvious they were riggin it for Alison... my gawd, she was mediocre in this shoot looks really tiny and didnt do much at all Runway was awkward but no one talked about it. . I remember in All Stars even Jay was pissed at one point about her giving the same face... sure, here she was new, and got somewhat better but on the show they really hyped her because tyra had her "alien beauty" obsession phase. Nigel was really stretching it Side note, no black girl got this amount of praise from the judges.