PHYSICIAN TRIES TO PASS VETERINARY BOARD EXAM

[@beachie]

I'm always so impressed with vets and think it would be a much harder job. Physicians need to learn one species' anatomy. Vets need to learn countless. Humans can tell their doctor what's bothering them. Vets have to deduce what the issue is. Physicians also don't have to worry about being bit--most of the time, anyway.

[@lisaenglert3202]

Exactly 😅 plus there are so few vet schools compared to med schools

[@SaltNBattery]

100%! I just said the same thing before I saw this. Human doctors have to learn the anatomy of one species. Vets, multiple species with pretty substantial variation between subspecies. Most vets are surgeons, oral surgeons/dentists, radiologists, orthopedist/orthopedic surgeons, pediatricians, geriatrician, infectious disease specialist, pathologists, endocrinologists, reproductive endocrinologist, OBGYNs, proctologists, urologists, cardiologists, gastroenterologists, palliative care/euthanasia... That's your average small practice vet at any decent animal hospital. Don't get me started on Veterinary technicians vs nurses. It's not even a contest depending on your state, they're also nurses, anesthesia techs, surgical techs, dentists, dental hygienists, radiology techs, phlebotomists, lab techs, pharmacists, medical assistant, etc.. i mean have you ever tried to place a catheter on a severely dehydrated 17 year old cat? Tried to collect a blood sample from the jugular of a 105lb German Shepherd that doesn't consent to treatment? How about from the jugular of a pissed off cat that hasn't had a nail trim in years? Speaking from personal experience, those are the easy parts of the job. The much much harder things are the things you can't forget no matter how hard you try. Or the things you have to do.. Add to that the scars from all the bites/scratches, the constant pee/poop/anal glanding on everything. Then, to top it all off you make minimum wage, or slightly more ($0.50 more)... The clients... Noncompliance... The reality that unless you apply for a CareCredit card, there is no "send me the bill'. It's pay now or fluffy dies. Many animal hospitals, in my experience, are extremely manipulative towards their staff because they know that they're all here because they love animals and will use that to get you to go above and beyond. Sign this paper agreeing to no breaks, no lunches "due to the nature of our job". 12 hour days are standard. It's not just vets who have an extremely high suicide and burn-out rate by the way. We hear about vets a lot now and I'm glad but at the same time.... Anyway...

[@JoannBasilio]

lmaoooo "I dont remember what my score was, but I've been allowed to practice veterinary medicine, so I'm assuming I passed it." - Dr. Cellini

[@KatrinaDancer]

Lol

[@beefield1765]

I took my dog to the vet, I was unwell he asked what’s up. He told me to check my b12 levels as I had abnormal gait and was breathless and looked anaemic. He was correct ! Pernicious anaemia. Why isn’t my GP this good!

[@DVMCellini]

wow

[@alliem8700]

My boss knew somebody that was a DVM and a human GP, and saw patients of all species out of the same practice!

[@JeSuisDeTexas]

Pernicious 😨 dude..you ok?

[@RealGalaxyGamers]

@@alliem8700 That seems unlikely.

[@alliem8700]

@@RealGalaxyGamers Which is why it's so cool! I can't remember if it was in India or the US, but my boss has been a vet for 30 years, and practiced in both countries and multiple states, so he knows a ton of vets.

[@laner.845]

I seem to have missed my calling. I went 6/6 and I'm a meteorologist. I do binge vet shows like crazy, though. Thank you Dr. Oakley, Dr. Pol, Bondi Vet, the Critter Fixers, many more I can't remember at this moment, and all the fine vets on all the SPCA shows from around the world for ensuring I could answer 6 questions correctly on a random YT video.

[@annaleal8944]

As a veterinary undergrad, this made me feel at ease with applying and taking the NAVLE. thank you

[@kmw_mrcvs]

4th year vet student here--this video was so much fun to watch! We need more of these DVM/MD crossovers! Thanks for a great video! :)

[@RealGalaxyGamers]

I think Dr. Cellini is a DO

[@itsneuro]

Your dry humor is cracking me up. Enjoyed the video, and would definitely love more crossover content!

[@DVMCellini]

Deal!

[@deannariley4854]

The main difference in human med exam vs vet med exam: humans need to know one species. Vets need to know feline, canine, horse, rodents, birds, farm, wild- even if they are never going to specialize in some.

[@docsavage98]

As a practicing doctor of veterinary medicine for 40 years mostly in rural mixed animal practice, i cringed on some of these questions then realized....i know this! Havent taken an examination since the KY State Boards back in the days when each state had its own basic sciences/veterinary medicine tests...usually a 2 day ordeal. I took TN a couple of weeks after graduating and then KY a year later. Just a few years ago i was going to be in WVA covering for a maternity leave for 2 months. The state board was an on line short exam on particular laws pertaining to veterinary medicine in the state....soooo much better! I still think we need universal licensure where 1 license allows you to practice in any state, with states providing a .pdf or booklet of laws pecuilar to that state. Of course, we've asked for that for 60 years. Maybe things like this video might convince a lot of the self smug M.D.'s ive come across over the decades who said and acted like veterinarians were vastly inferior to human medical practitioners. Always irritated me that MD's are basically one species specialists,leaving the DVM to cover the other 50K species.

[@juliac3933]

This was fun to watch. One of my professors in tech school had a mug saying “real doctors treat more than one species” haha

[@NoThankUBeQuiet]

To be fair though so many vets just do dogs and cats and refuse smaller animals and larger animals. Like I get it's the bread and butter (And large animal is a LOT more work on call days ect) but 2 species doesn't really feel like that much better

[@dvm7005]

@@NoThankUBeQuiet im large animal vet, im lacking experience in small animals. Vets gotta be specialist in at least some species(even systems) in order to show good results

[@anacrea3931]

I loved this! Spent my entire childhood and adolescence wanting to go into vet med but am now on track for physicians assisting. Still big into dogs so this was a fun mix of interests to watch.

[@greyhndz]

Loving this and your channel! 30+ years in human medicine and wishing I had gone the veterinary path instead.

[@DVMCellini]

There......are downsides.

[@bettysmith4527]

@@DVMCellini I am with Grey, I regret doing human healthcare, and if vet tech jobs paid more I would leave human medicine in a heartbeat!

[@DVMCellini]

that's a big "if" betty!

[@Techtonicality]

@@DVMCellini word up

[@kwiggy5091]

The pay is why I didn't go to vet school. Graduate with the student loans of an MD, have to treat hundreds of species, and yet no one pays their vet bills. I made more in specialty pet retail management than vet techs in our attached clinic did.

[@nancyfeldman3464]

I’m not a vet-head, but I once operated a ranch, so I’m glad to learn about BVD and germ layers of CB. And I’m always up for a video with test questions.

[@richardpoplis6777]

MORE BROTHER VIDEOS... YOU ARE BOTH GREAT... LOVE YOUR VIDEOS... KEEP THEM COMMING... LOVE BOTH YOUR SENCE OF HUMOUR... GREAT JOB

[@DVMCellini]

Thank you! Will do!

[@yentelbn262]

Currently a 3rd year vet student in France, I just found your channel and I litteraly just love its content! We need more of those videos :)

[@DVMCellini]

Awesome! Thank you! and welcome!

[@Michelle451]

I love this video! It provides such a unique professional perspective (plus the sibling rivalry aspect haha)- would love to see more videos like this in the future!

[@DVMCellini]

Thank you for watching! Yeah definitely gonna try more to make content together going forward.

[@binky2301]

Quite reassuring to know that I got all of these right. Steve, MRCVS!

[@jennycaldwell1]

5/6! We learned a lot in vet tech school.

[@Pathologymadesimple]

I have a feeling that this video will go viral and be a huge hit 😻 I m eager for the other version of you taking usmle

[@DVMCellini]

I hope you’re correct 😂

[@motundeoke7257]

Literally stumbled on your page today and it was fun to watch the friendly duel! I am currently preparing for my BSCE exam which is a pre- NAVLE exam that international vet doctors have to take before sitting for the NAVLE. I am definitely subscribing to your channel!

[@DVMCellini]

Awww thank you! I’ll be making a video about the BSCE and international vets coming to the US soon. Welcome in!

[@ComfyChaos]

Discovered your channel through your brother. I absolutely LOVE the vids with the two of you. Love the camaraderie and sibling rivalry, haha! More videos with the two of you, please!

[@DVMCellini]

Welcome aboard! Thanks for watching and yeah we're gonna try for more family content in the future as much as possible.

[@joshbritton]

Loved the video! Kind of cool how some questions in veterinary medicine can be answered if you know human medicine. It’s like a cross over episode lol

[@DVMCellini]

Absolutely. I've gotten some USMLE questions right too back when he showed me.

[@ettinakitten5047]

As someone who is not certified to practice any sort of medicine, I'm proud to say that I correctly diagnosed the X-ray of the dog with the distended abdomen.

[@pamelaroundy9814]

I found this fascinating. Looking forward to more.

[@mckenziekurtz9710]

Man I wish my NAVLE had those questions 😂 I took it in December, it was infinitely harder and more ambiguous than any of those sample questions...

[@michellelindsey742]

Just found your channel. Loved this. I took the NAVLE over 20 years ago (was actually the first class to take it after they got rid of the old tests). Small animal GP, but I still managed to get the large animal questions correct ,which was a bit surprising. (although I had to extrapolate the BVD one from cats). I think you should have made him do a puppy count on the last one. And I'm seriously tempted to start telling my clients their pets have Beaver Fever (we see a ton of Giardia). 🙃

[@DVMCellini]

Welcome! I think my first merch item is gonna be a “beaver fever” tshirt

[@shannontucker4621]

Yeah I took boards long ago and can’t even remember what our test was called!

[@laurennichole161]

Third year vet student and I can’t wait to tell my classmates about this golden nugget of new new knowledge 😂

[@NoThankUBeQuiet]

@@DVMCellini ummm as a female if I didn't know the context and saw that in public I'd be super creeped out....

[@adamgill618]

Rewatching some Dr. Cellini videos and love to see ones where they interact since they are great together. Realized I can’t find the video of DVM Cellini taking interventional or diagnostic radiology board questions though. I can’t remember if I saw it before or if they never uploaded it but it would be fun to watch.

[@DVMCellini]

I never did it! I would love to though

[@wordsfindme]

I'm a vet and a human doctor... would love to see you do USMLE questions (you'll be fine, btw, basic monogastric physiology and pathology is the pretty much the same between humans and non-humans - how well you do will depend on whether you can dredge the Krebs cycle back out of your subconscious from vet school, but I managed after 10 years so you probably can too).

[@k3stra]

You are both? That’s amazing! How does that even happen? So you went to school for 8 years and became one professional and then went back to school for 4 years to switch professions?

[@Cr7fanclub1]

How a vet and human doctor?

[@wordsfindme]

I went to school for one, qualified, worked for a while, then went back to school for the other one, qualified and kept working.

[@noeljohnson3918]

The Veterinarian lived across the hall from me at one of my duty stations. When I wouldn't get help at the Army clinic, I would knock on his door. As long as I swore on my mother's grave that he had absolute confidentiality, he saved my life more than once.

[@DanceLover6499]

Vet tech listening to him say “oh well there’s a bunch of crap in it” “oh she pregnant” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lchaconxo7932]

Dr. James is so funny and Mike just lets all the jokes go flat 😭☠️

[@DVMCellini]

Not sure he gets it....:)

[@gracielac.p.reiser4320]

@@DVMCellini 😂😂

[@vanessao.7032]

Vet pathologist (anatomic) with a human doc SO, here - this vid was right up our alley. Can't wait to see how you (and those of us playing along at home ;) ) do on the USMLE. =)

[@crystalkarlson5491]

Love this!!! Can't wait to see the flip side!!!

[@MSUSpartansRock]

I've been a Licensed Vet Nurse/Tech for 22 years. Got a 5/6- missed the BVD question.. which would hurt the feelings of my two mentors(boarded AABP members). I know I get almost as many questions from family and friends as to what could be wrong with them in addition to what might be wrong with their pets!

[@Iamnosey]

Love my vet and my Dr. You two. Could not deny your related 😁♥️👍

[@joannebryant6217]

These are fun (and educational) videos!

[@DVMCellini]

we had fun making it and i think it shows

[@joannebryant6217]

@@DVMCellini It definitely shows! Not bad for a “grasshopper “, right? 😉.

[@norvillharthart]

Please turn the tables, wanna see u vet take a physician board exam, too! Haha! Currently a DVM student from PH. Love your vids!

[@kellysherrard257]

You two guys are fabulous! You should be on here regularly!

[@forestslovenature6416]

11:28 "...oh wait, there's something crap in it..."🤣 those craps are Puppies🥰😍😂

[@yuwenmchen]

You threw Michael a couple of soft bones with the Giardia and X-Ray questions. Secretly you didn’t want him to fail 😅

[@DVMCellini]

perhaps. although i would love an episode where he gets 0 lol

[@obiwan7840]

Wow. I'm a 5th year vet student and I'm surprised at how easy (or should I change that word for BASIC) the questions are. Not that I want to sound smart or anything but since I read online a lot of people having to study on their own and also people failing it I was expecting it to be a lot tougher and with more clinical questions, for example the video on the USMLE on MD cellini's channel gave me the impression that their exam was actually harder IMO. BTW great video!

[@DVMCellini]

Honestly I get the impression the USMLE is orders of magnitude more difficult.

[@obiwan7840]

@@DVMCellini I agree.

[@nived8476]

I'm a medical student, and I chose all the same answers. Except for number 5, I picked syringomyelia since that can be caused by post-traumatic or infectious adhesions. Still, got the same score though.

[@bestfriendsvet]

I took this exam 20 years ago and passed it the first time. I'm not so sure I could pass it at this moment though, without prior studying...too many non dog/cat questions!

[@edgargonzalezgallegos3024]

I´m from mexico, and passed the equivalent there without studying, but I already failed my first NAVLE, after studying for months.

[@BeKindToEveryKind295]

11:30 “there’s a whole bunch of crap in it” ahahaha the technical description

[@DanTheVeterinarian]

Great Video, Doc!

[@DVMCellini]

A fellow vet! Thanks for saying that.

[@MyChrisfish]

loved it , great job Micheal!! thinking like a scientist always works. Good work. I cant wait to try and answer the MD questions. Chrisfish DVM

[@marykaywohlert9228]

This was fun to watch

[@DVMCellini]

thanks for watching it!

[@urielromero5069]

Very nice challenge for the opposite specialty.... Man vs Beast :)

[@DVMCellini]

i mean the kid did pretty good

[@wandat7275]

I showed my dog the video she said, “woof.” I think she likes it.

[@jean-sebastienlatouche3678]

This got on my home page likely because I am also a DVM (clinical pathology specialty) and this was both entertaining and validating! I also got a 4 out of 5 and my NAVLE was in 1997! :D The more you specialise, the more difficult the general questions become.

[@DVMCellini]

Oh absolutely. The non dog/cat stuff especially for me.

[@jean-sebastienlatouche3678]

@@DVMCellini Yep! My math did not get better with time though... I meant to say 5 out of six! Now back to my MCT staging LN sample ;)

[@shreyabahl3305]

Damn just loved it! Vet from India who passed her NAVLE! You guys be awesome!

[@completecareanimalhospital]

This was great. I missed the cerebellar hypoplasia answer and I’m a vet. 😬. Thanks for the great explanation.

[@DVMCellini]

All good! Let me know if you need help with any neuro cases (small animal).

[@Kittiesinclair5]

The calf’s signs actually depend upon the pregnancy stage at which the cow was infected. BVD can cause normal looking carrier calves as well. An insidious disease as it’s easily missed in herds, thus easily perpetuates causing economic hardship.

[@BJbear2001]

I liked this fun game time segment. Great video, keep going!

[@shope1426]

I diagnosed that puppy w giardiasis too :) good to know I'm learning something in med school 😄

[@DogDocLou]

I’ve definitely limited use of metronidazole in my Gia puppies. I’ve also never used metro alone in 5 years of practice, if I use it it’s always in conjunction with panacur.

[@DVMCellini]

that's interesting. also the BVD question was wrong they definitely can get hydranencephaly. go navle.

[@gracielac.p.reiser4320]

@@DVMCellini oh! Thats the one I had picked.

[@ThatSuzanneSchmid]

I don't think DVMs are necessarily smarter than MDs, but they do have to learn about several species while MDs only need to learn about one. My dad was a veterinarian btw

[@kathysedillos5108]

Liked it !! Please present more like this!!

[@mercelingawanas3241]

Sitting for my veterinary board exam next week all the way here in Namibia and I feel so much better knowing I could answer all of these😅

[@DVMCellini]

That’s awesome. Good luck!

[@coles5243]

Great video!

[@DVMCellini]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@MrCharlaay]

I loved this! You two are awesome 🙂

[@billygoat7060]

This is great content!

[@DVMCellini]

thanks billygoat!

[@victoratta-dakwa3642]

Lol at “didn’t get the joke”

[@DVMCellini]

Guy's as dense as lead (rad joke).

[@MrVetBryanLEE]

I have been working as a general practitioner and I FORGOT a lot of stuff about large animals, but I at least got the answer right. The minute I saw the questions, I answered them right away but with a lot of doubts!! haha :) liked, subscribed, and commented. haha :)

[@DVMCellini]

Thanks doc!

[@thelittleway]

great vid!

[@DVMCellini]

thanks!

[@gabynicolex]

How do I get these hints whispered to me while I take the NAVLE???

[@AK.ALMAHASNEH]

hahaha very coooool please we want more 🙏

[@zhvanrekani1408]

Thank you 👍

[@DVMCellini]

you're welcome!

[@marieprokupek669]

Haha! Found this video in our Swedish veterinary group on FB. Very funny idea and my favourite comment about the "who's best" topic : Human doctors are veterinary specialists for great apes

[@DVMCellini]

haha thanks and welcome in! what's the facebook group?

[@rei_cirith]

I got 4 out of 6 right from a Bachelor of Biology degree that I barely graduated from (and subsequently would not be admitted to Vet school for) and watching Dr. Pol. I don't know whether to feel good or extremely sad about that...

[@TheMarionetteKitty]

I’m an LVT in NY. I got 6/6. Admittedly I guessed the BVD one. I knew it messed up the calves I just didn’t know how.

[@melissapresti7024]

CVT in pa also got 6/6!

[@littleczbear]

Did you have a go at doing some of his exam questions? Would love to see that video!

[@DVMCellini]

No but I’m going yo

[@SuneOli4]

This video brought me so much joy 😂

[@DVMCellini]

glad you liked it!

[@evenc13]

I’d be curious to see how well you answer human neurology board questions as a veterinary neurologist

[@DVMCellini]

The problem I'd run into is the sheer volume of conditions, syndromes, diseases, symptoms, etc that are named after some white dude from France who discovered it in the 1700's. There's just so many "proper noun" names to things. Whereas with vet med, everything is medical terminology in its description.

[@yarnmaniacs8936]

@@DVMCellini lol

[@alexisybarra9731]

@DVMCellini I’m currently in my first year vet school and loved trying to answer the questions along with other Dr.Cellini! I was curious is what resource you used to get the NAVLE practice questions?? Love both of your channels and videos like this since I have a lot of friends in medical school too it’s fun to see the differences and similarities in human and vetmed!

[@DVMCellini]

thanks alexis best of luck with everything

[@zhangyninja]

Fourth year vet student here who just took the NAVLE last month. These sample practice questions are from the ICVA website!

[@monicajohnson1088]

You can also sign up for daily questions from Zuku and VetPrep if you're looking for some free NAVLE prep questions!

[@DVMCellini]

feel free to email me any questions you want me to throw at him for future episodes [e-mail]

[@mckenziekurtz9710]

@@zhangyninja I took it last month as well, the wait for the results is killing me!

[@carolinevel94]

I am a Belgian veterinarian and inappétence is definitely used in french or maybe also dysorexia 😄 coming from "appetit"

[@gracielac.p.reiser4320]

Passed!!! 5 ( or 6) of 7! I would have known the last, but the options where shown too fast. Greetings from a veterinarian from Uruguay, finished my carrer in 1995.

[@DVMCellini]

I worked with an amazing vet from Uruguay in my last job. Nice work.

[@gracielac.p.reiser4320]

Oh, interesting. If you visit my country, let me know, it is really Nice. And perhaps I know that vet, due to the size of our country!! 😃🇺🇾.

[@DVMCellini]

Sofia Cerda-Gonzalez

[@nechamia]

very interesting. The USMLEs are brutal because the question style is not testing first degree knowledge. Often a question will expect you to know the first degree knowledge (like the giardia one), the treatment (i.e. metronidazole) but ask what is the most common side effect of that treatment (third degree knowledge).

[@DVMCellini]

Yeah my suspicion is that its way way harder but we'll see when I take some questions.

[@kwiggy5091]

I have been in animal husbandry and care for over a decade so I knew 4 of these as well. Looks like I'm headed to Jersey to be a vet 😎

[@islesofmets]

I did 4/6 here even so I don't have a Biology Associates yet due to failing Organic Chemistry I/II... Ugh, if I can pass those, I'm probably going to be able to head up... But awesome to watch, definitely a dream despite the money challenges...

[@DVMCellini]

best of luck with everything. just keep grinding.

[@erintintin24]

The only reason I remembered the cerebellar hypoplasia one was because the cause of it in cats is viral as well haha

[@kentGrey]

My dogs gets infinitely better medical care than I do.

[@Helder-]

Great video 😂 these questions remind me of Step 1

[@JoannBasilio]

Can somebody please explain the joke at 0:44? I didn't understand it either and I've already played it back a couple times haha

[@DVMCellini]

i was just saying how we tell each other the careers are different to avoid being competitive and ruining our relationship. it was....admittedly....dry and dead pan (my style)

[@JoannBasilio]

@@DVMCellini oh hi doc! Thanks for clearing that up. I love your humor that I do catch. I watched the other video you did with your brother on his channel and laughed at the subaru vs audi joke and the straight up, "how much money do you have?" question at the end. Looking forward to more of your videos! (:

[@nickiedannunzio3827]

Y’all should do a part 2 3 4 5 of this video and so on

[@Alasmira]

it's been a hot minute since i've done non dog/cat vet medicine and im so happy i still remember the random cow things. granted its easier when there's multiple choice versus pull it out of your brain.

[@janetroush5775]

I got 3 correct but I'm not a medical person. I picked acities for the last one because I didn't see the skulls and spines so I thought it was fluid.

[@MonicaGomezVeganMutterGov]

AQ! The good thing that you studied vet school, and then take the exam. Great news, if you passed!)

[@sevenshotz4690]

Thankfully I haven’t seen a rawr cow yet

[@DVMCellini]

Pffffff 😂

[@paulettern9913]

Very fun video.

[@TheCarlScharnberg]

Got a 3/6, LOL! Never formally studied medicine (though I wanted to become a medical doctor) or gone to vet school. The last one got me because I forgot that dogs usually carry more than one baby. Hahahaha! Remembering that certainly would've helped. Love tests! Fun.

[@NoThankUBeQuiet]

Lol. I was like underweight and malnourished. Sounds pregnant.

[@RealGalaxyGamers]

He got half.

[@autumnmoonfire3944]

I want to know how the vet does on USMLE step one!

[@mariamshahzadi3796]

hi . congrats for little struggle on phd aspects ..

[@mkyeung15]

Bust out the actual nalve questions. Those made me cry.

[@DVMCellini]

send 'em to me

[@lisajohnson521]

Vet brother had to explain the questions so that’s kind of cheating 🤣🤣 This was a fun video!

[@DVMCellini]

next one i'm giving him 0 help whatsoever.

[@angelamason9840]

I didn’t guess hydrocephalus for number 5, because I have it. For the cow question I would have said dairy cow. Moo cow 🐄 made me LOL! 😂

[@DVMCellini]

i should have made fun of him in real time. missed opportunity.

[@robertsteven7722]

I'm happy because I was able to pass the exam at first sitting thou it wasn't easy 😂😂

[@carlospereyra9479]

DVM here, would be hard pressed after over two decades to respond to any of the large animal questions!!

[@sophiexxttv]

"Like a moo cow?" 😂😂😂

[@schues317]

That last one? Really? Probably most bums off the street would have gotten that! Looking forward to you taking the human med test!

[@DVMCellini]

I showed it to a homeless person a few blocks from me and they were not able to produce a radiographic diagnosis.

[@SheltinkaBH]

Great content! ...Though now I desperately need to see the vet brother ace the human medicine board exam 😄 You know... not that vets were smarter or anything 😁