True or False: Vegan Diet Fact Check | Dr. Neal Barnard | Exam Room LIVE

Eating a vegan diet will negatively alter your mitochondria and destroy your health. That is a claim circulating and widely believed to be true although research shows it's not one rooted in science. It is false.
Nutrition claims are put to the test in this True or False edition of The Exam Room LIVE.
Dr. Neal Barnard joins "The Weight Loss Champion" Chuck Carroll to dispel myths from reality and separate fact from fiction.
On the Show
- True or false: It is impossible to meet all nutritional requirements without eating meat.
- True or false: A vegan diet has half the amount of protein as a regular diet.
- True or false: Plant protein is not complete protein.
- True or false: Eating a vegan diet is 150% more expensive than the average grocery bill.
- True or false: Vegan men often have a low sperm count.
- True or false: Eating a vegan diet increases the risk of developing an eating disorder.
- True or false: Vegans are more likely to suffer from depression.
- And more
Dr. Barnard is the author of The Power Foods Diet: The Breakthrough Plan That Traps, Tames, and Burns Calories for Easy and Permanent Weight Loss.
This episode is sponsored by The Gregory J. Reiter Memorial Fund, which supports organizations like the Physicians Committee that carry on Greg’s passion and love for animals through rescue efforts, veganism, and wildlife conservation.

[@susanlemee564]

Thank you Chuck and Dr Barnard! Going vegan was the best thing I ever did for my health. I am 70 yrs old now and my blood work is better than ever. My dr can’t believe it. Thank you!!

[@extropiantranshuman]

nice work

[@Scor-ah]

I used to be anemic my whole life till I went plant based 7 yrs ago

[@extropiantranshuman]

the foods with the most iron of any - are plants - like thyme - over 100mg/100g of food!!! Look - even b12 anemia is readily helped by a plant-based diet, because it's tested more. Those who think they're getting b12 with meat end up deficient, but plant eaters are already on top of it.

[@kittybeck151]

I'm very happy eating plant based. Thank you Dr. Barnard (& Dr. McDougall). I hate it when people call vegans "soy boy." They so don't understand! I've been eating this way for five or six years (lost track). I don't cook that much anymore & I eat simply. I am not perfect - I like Earth Balance & sometimes vegan mayo. Once in a while, I might have fish & tater tots! But am very strict about no meat or dairy. Vegan almond milk yogurt is great - I mix in a little blueberry sauce & yum! In my 70s and on no meds. I don't miss animal products at all. I think doctors won't encourage a vegan diet because they might lose business.

[@JillWhitcomb1966]

Some outstanding benefits that I've noticed with a plant-based diet are hair and skin improvements. I'm 58 years old and only have about 15 % grey/ white hair. My skin looks glowing, fresh, and smooth. Aside from a few fine lines on my forehead, there isn't an abundance of wrinkles on my face, no age spots, and no dryness. I credit this to eating things like oatmeal, chia seeds, ground flax, beans & lentils, 4-5 cups of veggies per day, along with an abundance of spices such as cinnamon, cumin, curry, red pepper flakes. I also consume hot black tea, chilled hibiscus tea, and spearmint tea-- all which are loaded with antioxidants.

[@extropiantranshuman]

I know - when other people I know who had gray/white hair ate plant based - the color got restored. Their skin got smoother too.

[@extropiantranshuman]

that reminds me - I forgot about making myself some roselle tea too - it's great for skin as well. Don't forget to eat your greens!!

[@blue-fj9ky]

Thank you to the Gregory J. Reiter family. You are making our world a better place.

[@dianamarie1652]

Well said, green leafy vegetables are power houses! I love roasted Brussels sprouts, brown rice, and onions! Yum

[@orthohawk1026]

I'm so over the "a vegan diet is so expensive!" trope! I spend 30 dollars a week on my food (and that's on the high end!) Sure, it's more expensive if you're gonna insist on eating all the fake meats and cheeses and processed garbage. Whole food plant based is the cheapest diet there is!! and about the man boobs: if soy were the miracle boob growing bean like everyone says, the food industry would be marketing the heck out of it for that!

[@extropiantranshuman]

it's still expensive if you can't afford it - because some people just can't. Actually many people who grow our commonly reasonably priced foods of quinoa, chocolate, etc. - can't even afford to eat it themselves. Someone has to pay for it if it's cheap at the store.

[@orthohawk1026]

@@extropiantranshuman potatoes, dried beans, rice, frozen veg, all quite inexpensive compared to both fake and real meat and cheese. But I guess any excuse, eh?

[@extropiantranshuman]

@@orthohawk1026 I wish that was the case, but with potatoes - it goes bad pretty quickly - as they start budding the next day. Beans - you have to cook them for a long time and I don't have those capabilities. Same with rice. Frozen veg - sure, but it gets moldy in the freezer unfortunately. Or it goes bad if it's not frozen. If you eat it right away - it's reasonably cheap, but then I'd end up eating about 3 bagloads plus other items for a whole meal - and so it's not really that cheap. Real cheese has been cheaper when I bought it in the past compared to what you mention. Even dairy is still extremely cheap - and when mixed with a banana - it's cheaper than the banana mixed with coconut water I buy (because while coconut water has potassium, banana is too dry to eat by itself). Ok if I don't eat banana with coconut water (which is $10 per bottle), then it's spirulina - another expensive item. If not spirulina, it's avocados - another $2 item - and it's not even like meat - which is rich in nutrients. I can afford it, so it's no excuse, but the truth. I feel any excuse not to listen to people who have legitimate concerns to help them out - simply because it's thought of as wanting to be carnistic. Anyway - the only reason why plants are cheaper than animal products - isn't for the reasons you mention - even if I go to the cheapest section of the store - it's just going to be more expensive much of the time (not all of the time), is because I forage for my food. Foraging for animals is extremely expensive - buying permits and equipment, travel and passes - compared to picking fruit off the tree on some street corner. However, you can't really have complete sustenance year round on that alone - maybe 3/4 of the year. The rest - you'd have to buy at the store or grow yourself. And then the 1/4 (and that's the max, realistically - it's on average 1/2 to 3/4) of the year is going to the grocery store - and that's when the offset costs are well made up for by the few expensive items bought - and that's not when you do fake animal products. Sure - canned beans, corn, tomatoes, etc. can be cheap - but prices are going up where I live, as well as a limit on availability - so in the end, I wouldn't say I'm going to be saving much money at all. If someone doesn't forage and grow their own food like me, their expenses - no doubt - would likely be more expensive than animal products - and that's if you don't use faux products. Feel free to excuse it - but excuses don't pay bills. (you can excuse it if you did lol)

[@orthohawk1026]

@@extropiantranshuman sounds like just a bunch of excuses. i have potatoes here that I bought a couple weeks ago: no eyes growing. Veg in the freezer going moldy???? I'm sorry, but WTF? that's what the freezer is FOR; to keep things from going bad.

[@extropiantranshuman]

@@orthohawk1026 well that's you - we each have our own life - so unless you walk a mile in someone's shoes - there's no reason to judge. Your potatoes aren't mine, and your storage isn't mine either. What might be a minor cost to you is major to me and vice versa. Unless you pay my bills, why are we still talking? And yes - I place it in the freezer - and it still gets moldy and not only that - but has freezer burn!! If only life worked perfectly for the ideal vegan vision you had - life isn't like that - it's reality and reality isn't vegan. If you really truly care about costs, why are you on here complaining when you can use this time wisely to help vegans save money by paying for their expenses or finding a way for them to be cheaper? Some people can't afford potatoes - and honestly the place where they sold potatoes is shutting down and now I have no potatoes - so now how am I supposed to get potatoes without spending loads of money if I can even find it? Easy for you to say - you get nice potatoes around you, but not everyone has it so nice as that - and that's just something you're going to have to accept.

[@ZmogusJaponija]

This channel is BY FAR the best source of nutrition information.

[@cathyfitzgerald3032]

It really is!

[@annemccarron2281]

​@@cathyfitzgerald3032Two very nice men.

[@adblas2222]

I eat Natto and it actually makes me feel happy. If you won’t eat natto, eat sauerkraut or kimchi or plant based yogurt. When you eat vegetables it increases your good gut bacteria, which improves your mood.

[@daviddad1234]

I could not stomach Natto I don’t think but I eat real fermented sauerkraut full of healthy probiotics. Not the canned pasteurized stuff..

[@pageharris5693]

@@daviddad1234 I eat Cleveland Kraut. The garlic one. It is raw, naturally fermented (no vinegar) and tasty.

[@daviddad1234]

@@pageharris5693 That is the brand I eat also. Naturally fermented.

[@agnesoversluizen3071]

Cant handle the Natto wish I could, yes instead eat saurkraut, kimchi, soy yoghurt all homemade

[@kittybeck151]

Where can I find natto? I would like to try it.

[@michelebonansinga3165]

I adore all that you both do to better the lives of others! Thank you!!!!

[@extropiantranshuman]

not hard when most plants are acceptable to eat and won't cause many issues - makes finding food to eat a breeze.

[@patty-cf7jj]

As a vegan of over 20 years I agree that the vegan diet is not restrictive at all EXCEPT it is STILL very difficult to eat in restaurants. It’s getting better but it depends on where you are. London is easy but that’s about it. I’m in Boston and it’s still surprisingly tricky. It frustrates me immensely to go out to eat and have to constantly make special requests. It can be as easy as asking to leave the cheese off of something or it can be almost impossible.

[@daviddad1234]

You are right. The problem is everything is cooked or fried in the high inflammatory Omega 6 seed oils. If you want clean veggies it is harder to find but some restaurant’s steam their veggies. You just have to find them.

[@extropiantranshuman]

where you can't find - that's your opportunity to create a vegan business. Honestly - veganism provides some of the greatest economic opportunities too.

[@geoc1005]

​@@daviddad1234That's right. Restaurants use the worst, most highly inflammatory oils. Even the olive oil they use is cut with some cheap bad-for-you oil.

[@yukonnoka]

When early humans started eating meat it was because the tropical environment in which they lived began to dry out. This is why the early form of giraffe which was shorter than the modern long necked one died off and went extinct. The long necked one survived because it could reach the food available at the tops of the trees. We began eating some meat due to starvation brought about by climate change. Doesn't mean that we were meant to eat meat.

[@mini4196]

Thank you both so much for all the important information 😇love the lavender color of Chucks tie and shirt combo🙏🙏both of you are greatly appreciated🌴🌞💅💅

[@danarmstrong9433]

Great format! It should be on a regular rotation.

[@margielynch1465]

Great interview! I’m post menopause. A low fat vegan diet is the only thing that is working for me. I have more energy, better sleep, clear skin. I meal prep and it’s easy. It gets easier as you go along. And I bought Dr Bernard’s new book. It’s full of nutrition information and recipes

[@shanasoileau9724]

Thank you for all you do ❤

[@gillesgauthier9541]

Thanks Chuck and Dr. Barnard! You are amazing Chuck, all the topics you choose are interesting. It's always a pleasure to listen to your podcast when I'm in my car.

[@blue-fj9ky]

Going straight to Amazon to buy the book!

[@cathyfitzgerald3032]

I love this book! The recipes are so good and of course the information by Dr Barnard is so well written and educational.

[@fredrickriffel5845]

Green Kale and fruit smoothie will improve your bedroom experience. I was very surprised myself.

[@kindcounselor]

Bought the book for myself....then sent it to two of my friends!

[@daviddad1234]

So is Dr. Bernard he saying we cannot or should not eat meat!

[@kittybeck151]

He never said that. Plant based is just better.

[@annemccarron2281]

He would prefer that you didn't. If you can tolerate the calories from fat, don't mind harming animals, are okay with dieing early due to CVD, stroke, cancer, autoimmune disease, kidney disease, or other high fat and high protein diseases, then go for it.

[@extropiantranshuman]

I love how chuck wants as many comments as possible - as overload, and handles it with breeze. I love those who seek abundance and just want more to have a great selection instead of worrying about too much - like no, with chuck - it's not enough - it's always in need of more! 1 time, 100 times - no - 1000 times messages is not even enough for chuck - we run a race against him - as a collective - and he strides in a breeze.

[@ELLIESHAY]

Thank you 😊 ❤

[@michaelworsham2724]

Great Q&A, thank you!

[@amyglynn9273]

Hey NB… super quick question about cinnamaldehyde… is it water soluble and heat stable? As in, if i brew a tea from stick cinnamon (not cassia) will i interfere with that compound?

[@peggykey5570]

Great information ❤

[@elizabethmadness5277]

I loved that he talked about the link between eating disorders and flesh. So true for me and many as children!!!

[@spreadingwellness]

I became less anemic when I went WFPB.😊

[@marshaelsmere4998]

Thank You ❣

[@vfran838]

Thank you Chuck and Dr. Barnard. 13 or 14 years ago I saw Dr. Barnard on PBS and found him tremendously inspiring. It didn't quite never gone back. Dr. Barnard's talks are getting better and better and I still enjoy them. I still love cooking and baking but I do this the vegan way. PS - Thank you Dr. Barnard also for bringing up the environmental issues.

[@cathyfitzgerald3032]

Love this channel! I am lucky enough to be working with Stefanie Ignoffo now because I saw her here. She's the founder of Plantspiration.

[@pollyphillips1682]

What about impact of oxalates on calcium absorption? I know to avoid spinach, chard and beet leaves but what about high oxalate grains - most except rice. Esp if gluten free So if I eat Teff with collards how much Calcium will be left to absorb? Thanks

[@toni4729]

I was horribly ill for thirteen years until my doctor put me on a carnivore diet forty years ago. I'm now seventy two years old and perfectly healthy. The change was in four days.

[@monkeymox2544]

Then you weren't eating very well before then. Plant based diets are objectively healthier.

[@toni4729]

@@monkeymox2544 Plants have thousands of toxins in them. That's what made me ill. I was eating a perfectly natural diet. NO JUNK FOOD.

[@SuperDonnaMO]

I have become worried that I have Orthorexia Nervosa. I have been following a whole food plant based way of eating for 3 years and I have never felt worse. I won't be stopping but I am at a loss.

[@DisHsDd]

Broccoli has the following protein content : A 100-g serving of broccoli contains 2.8 g of protein (x 4 cal/g = 11.2 cal from protein) and 34 calories. Protein accounts for 33% of its calories. (11.2 ÷ 34 = 32.94%)

[@RosannaPerrigo]

Due to a medical condition, my iron, ferritin was always low. I have tried all my physicians (6 of them) prescriptions and orders. With 3 transfusions, I can say physicians no nothing! Four months ago I grabbed the reins and went vegan. Guess what? For the first time ever ALL my labs have fallen into normal parameters- iron, b12, folic acid, inflammation markets..

[@krawlb4walking802]

Thank you. ❤

[@klelusive]

Yup meat is a lot more expensive, especially now

[@GarudaLegends]

Not true. Is is also a super food and the most healthiest thing you can eat on earth

[@orthohawk1026]

@@GarudaLegends What stores is THEE shopping at??

[@GarudaLegends]

@@orthohawk1026 what does that have to with the fact that meat is a super food and the healthiest thing to eat on earth?

[@dliocca7052]

​@@orthohawk1026 Lol, I was wondering the same thing

[@orthohawk1026]

@@GarudaLegends that's not what I was asking about: @klelusive said that meat is a lot more expensive, and thee responded with "Not true." So if thee thinks meat isn't a lot more expensive, I wanna know what stores thee shops at.

[@Miechoman]

Great episode!

[@amasterfuldesktop4935]

I wonder how Chuck feels reading different variations on the same question and Neal the same answers like “damn these people aren’t learning yet??@

[@sabrinayerby9213]

? I am really concerned, I watched day 1 of John and Ocean Robbins summit and they talked about how our fruits and vegetables had tons of pesticides. What's worse, eating antibiotics in animals or cancer causing pesticides? I am scared to eat anything now

[@Itzbrady_]

Ohhh dont be too worried about it. Thoroughly rinse your fruit and vegetables and you will be just fine. Another tip is fruits with skin that you are just going to throw away are going to be pretty clean. Alcohol and smoking is a more dangerous habit than residual pesticides on fruit that can be easily washed..

[@sowmindful1501]

Give those fruits and veggies a good wash, and that should help a lot. Animals also consume foods covered in pesticides, and those bioaccumulate in the animals flesh, so plants are the way to go, at least you can wash them off, possibly buy organic, or grow your own veggies if you can.

[@shannonsiver6143]

Good for you for listening! We love that summit! It's a scary world to live in right now because we really don't know what they are putting in our food. All I know is, there is abundant research that shows meat, dairy and eggs are directly linked to cancer and other diseases. They are never anti disease. Even if our plants are covered in pesticides, they are still full of fiber and dense with nutrients of all kinds; many of which are proven to cure disease. Plus, the animals we would be consuming would be consuming these feeds full of antibiotics and pesticides and would eat far more than we do. These chemicals are then secreted in their milk and in their flesh. There is no better choice than to live a life that doesn't cause pain and suffering to others and is full of plants that allow us to be full of nutrients. You can only do the best you can and just let the rest go. You've got this! ❤️

[@aboutsupplies]

​@@Itzbrady_Sorry they get absorbed into the flesh...not busy soft fruit like strawberries and grapes, but hard like potatoes.

[@michelefinizio6520]

​@@Itzbrady_it's not that simple just rinsing your fruits and vegetables with vegetable spray is not going to get some of this new chemical that sprayed on fruits and vegetable called appeel off a lot of people are concerned and we should be because this new appeel does not come off even if you wash it

[@william4202]

I wish I could make clips of this.

[@sajsrn]

Chuck, how did you finally get off the junk food addiction and stick with WFPB diet? I can’t seem to stay with it. I’m a junk food junkie 🤬

[@ZmogusJaponija]

I am an addict as well. Not so much to "junk food", but to sugar/fats. Yes, WFPB helps me to stay clean, but I have to watch: a) no oils b) no sugar or sweet foods, e.g. raisins, dates c) no fast carbs (rice, white potato, white flour) d) be careful with "crunchy" texture. Good luck for you.

[@annamurtaugh3435]

It will take time. I try to replace junk food with healthier food, ex. I'll eat plain air popped popcorn instead of chips.

[@kittybeck151]

Find alternatives. I like chocolate covered almonds or raisins. A little chocolate is healthy. "Nice cream" is good (made from frozen bananas). Try chickpea choc pudding, avocado chocolate pudding, tofu choc pudding, tofu cheesecake, homemade vegan choc chip or oatmeal cookies, choc chickpea smoothie, sweet potato smoothie, sweet potato pudding (sweet already + a little maple syrup) (recipes online). Sweeten puddings, smoothies & baked goods with dates, maple syrup or agave instead of sugar. I personally feel that a little sugar (natural cane, turbinado, or coconut sugar) is okay. I found some sourdough pretzel bites by Snyder's that are really good. Hippeas (chickpea puffs) are a little naughty, but are vegan & taste great (Nacho flavor), but addictive. Better to have some of these than to totally give up! There are tons of recipes online for vegan cakes, cookies, puddings, etc., that are good & healthier options, plus vegan cookbooks. Have you tried any of these or bought any vegan cookbooks?

[@extropiantranshuman]

he showed his story and meal plan swap on his website. Realize there's plenty of WFPB 'junk foods' - because fruit's nature's candy. As he said - fruit that's in a basket in easy reach makes it easier to be WFPB. Then again - Chuck makes sure his foods are palatable and like junk food but healthy - how he air fries brussels sprouts for breakfast. Then it's like junk food without being that way. It's not hard to create WFPB snack boxes, but dessert - super easy. 100% chocolate dipped strawberries, dates with nut butter, watermelon on a stick, Dr. Barnard's nice cream idea (mix avocado + banana + mango together like I do - instant replica of melted ice cream - but you can freeze it too). Look - chef aj's channel - has a whole recipe book being sold right now that's only desserts. My personal website has many wfpb recipes and a list of halloween treats - which is a junk food list - but you'd have to double check it all for WFPB.

[@extropiantranshuman]

@@kittybeck151 I would say those aren't the best recommendations. I looked at the young at any age's bob n fran's website - they have really great foods that'll keep anyone from missing junk food!

[@marvariley]

When I eat High carbs I always gain weight!! I have to watch my carb intake. 1/2 potatoes instead of a whole potato for example. I have to eat More non starchy veggies like greens, squashes etc

[@Kiyarose3999]

Really the correct term is Vegan suitable diet or a ‘’’plant based diet’’, we don’t want to conflate a plant based diet with Veganism which is not a diet! 🌻🌎✊🏽

[@gogreen5984]

Being a vegetarian how can I get choline?

[@elizabethmadness5277]

My first year vegan was more expensive with trial and error and buying a nice blender and juicer but after that it has been a cost savings! Yay! 💰

[@ashabas1053]

fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, herbs and legumes have always been healthy. Horrifying that so many are actually omitting those things and only having carcass flesh, dairy and eggs which is exceedingly unhealthy and messes with their minds as well as the rest of their bodies, first started seeing this insane trend last year (2023).

[@danii26269]

The brain fog actually went away for me when I went WFBP!!!

[@palmajavier]

The best advice I can give is; try eating meat ONLY for 6 months, if you're not feeling better than ever then change it for whatever you want though I'm sure that won't be the case if you do it 100% for at least 6 months.

[@jacjac_0]

Except you meat only eaters never wanna test your cholesterol to prove your theory, its all "trust me bro" blind faith and food addiction based.

[@Hyperion1040]

Algae oil is mostly DHA and no EPA. There is no good source of EPA on plan based diet

[@audither]

Your thoughts… for most plant-based, doctors and health professionals are sending mixed messages in that. They are not speaking with one voice and one way of eating.. When we think about the Atkins diet, we know exactly what that means. When we think about the South Beach diet, we know exactly what that means. When we think about that old grapefruit diet, we know exactly what that means. When we think about the whole Food plant based lifestyle, we don’t know exactly what that means. it would be very helpful to our movement. If all these doctors and plant based health professionals would get together come up with one name for the lifestyle change and say the same thing., even if it means compromising in order to set a standard, so we will know exactly what that means… what is good to eat and what is not good to eat

[@ZmogusJaponija]

If we look at 3 giants of plant based eating (Dr. Greger, J. Fuhrman and N. Barnard) they all promote "WFPB free of SOS" diet (whole food plant based diet minus salt oils sugar) which is very loooong name :)

[@audither]

I agree

[@orthohawk1026]

@@ZmogusJaponija I've taken to saying I'm a "holovore" ("Whole eater" in analogy to "carnivore", "herbivore" and "omnivore.") Of course, since it's a new word for most people, they tend to ask, "oh, what's that?" and that's when you can go into the details.

[@joeblow2183]

I’d say wrong bc humans have been eating meat for millions of years. That’s evolutionary. For myself I’ll eat lots of plants but grass fed meat and raw dairy. Since then I have noticed a vast improvement in my health. No more vicious herpes outbreaks. Also I can exercise 7 days a week without fatigue. Great sleep. And no more anemic blood test. Eat organs too

[@annemccarron2281]

Dr. Barnard said that we came from apes. Which is the commonly accepted theory. Apes do not eat meat except in extreme circumstances. We are not natural omnivores. Meat was not always readily available.

[@stefbmccoy8297]

I don't supplement b12, more people need to talk about nutritional yeast!

[@annemccarron2281]

Not all nutritional yeast is supplimented with B12.

[@Kiyarose3999]

We would of got our B12 from natural water sources such as Rivers, Lakes, Springs etc, B12 is in the Soil so is in the water Hydrology connects the two. Also we came from the Congo forests not from the Serengeti, picking fruit & leaves and drinking from Rivers etc, Fruitarian Bonobos are our closest non human animal relative ✊🏽🌻🌎t

[@dove72]

New study -- to get enough protein for muscle protein synthesis, vegans should eat 47% more protein than if eating meat. Google the study entitled Higher Muscle Protein Synthesis Rates Following Ingestion of an Omnivorous Meal Compared with an Isocaloric and Isonitrogenous Vegan Meal in Healthy, Older Adults

[@extropiantranshuman]

it really depends on bioavailability - and certain foods, like potatoes, if eaten - are going to lead a vegan to not worry as much about getting more protein.

[@gogreen5984]

Yes

[@Kiyarose3999]

When I was a kid I used to feed all my veg to our dog under the table and for a while only ate the ‘meat’, then became so anaemic that I couldn’t even walk up the stairs in our house. I ended up having to drink a disgusting tasting Iron medicine from the GP, so it’s not ‘meat’ but plant foods that provide our Iron!. ✊🏽🌻🌎

[@HeartHealthyVegan]

Is eating sugar substitutes bad for you

[@kittybeck151]

I think so, except for stevia. Erythritol gave me abdominal cramps.

[@extropiantranshuman]

@@kittybeck151 I agree - it depends on the substitute

[@snehaldave7218]

All Heart Surgeons and cardiologists nowadays talk about insulin resistance and improving metabolic health by eating more FAT ( Keto diet) and no or low carbs and little protein. As opposed to this, on the other hand, you talk about eating NO FAT and more carbs and moderate protein. Who is right? I feel lost in the crossfire.

[@jacjac_0]

All of them? Dr Caldwell Esselstyn doesnt recommend fad high fat diets.

[@Battery-kf4vu]

Ask him about C:15.

[@Jeffs60]

He does not know anything about C15:0, Sphingolipids, Oleocanthal, Omega 7, Heme Iron or Carnosine. He also has no Ph.D in nutritional biochemistry so he can't tell you how these plant anti nutrients may affect some people's health depending on their own genetics: Aquaporins, Gliadin, Furocoumarins, Cesium, Serpins, Solanines, Cyanide, Thallium, Bergapten and Pyrrolizidine Alkaloids, Acetogenins, Saponins, Cyanogenic Glycosides, toxic Alkaloids, Persin, Urushiol, Caramboxin, Hypoglycin, Solanine, Aconitine, Atropine, Coniine, Chaconine, Colchicine, Cytisine, Dimethyltryptamine, Harmine, Harmaline, Raffinose Oligosaccharides, Ibogaine, Kawain, Mescaline, Scopolamine, Trypsin inhibitors, Amylase inhibitors and Taxine. I left out Lectins since if you cook them there is no problem so Gundry is wrong since he also has zero credentials in nutrition.

[@COACH-CARBOHYDRATE]

Dietary fat causes insulin resistance, the fat you eat is the fat you wear, SUGAR FTW! 💪💪

[@leezhang81]

vegan diet help with aorta enlargement

[@donaldobrien9171]

Why do all male vegans have 12 inch circumference necks?

[@abdelilahbenahmed4350]

May I ask you what do you mean by 12 inches necks? Too skinny or too fatty or with a lot of wrinkles?

[@WFPB_4_Life]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@gogreen5984]

B12 deficiency

[@joeharvie8362]

Spam and gravey!!!!!

[@traveler65]

💚🌱😊

[@hj8607]

So this video was recorded in ~ 1985 ? AND for 98 % of human history a vegan diet was rare simply because of limited availability (seasons) PLUS the life expectancy was not even half and most diet caused illness (carb heavy grazing) manifest in 40+ age people. You really need to do better on selecting guest speakers.

[@bohditony]

💚💓

[@steffenfrost]

“Meat eating didn’t really begin until the Advent of the Stone Age” Yeah, the Stone Age started 3 million years ago, to say that we didn’t evolve eating meat is specious.

[@annamurtaugh3435]

I think the idea is that we were already evolved by the stone age. And if our relatives were apes, they eat fruit.

[@steffenfrost]

​@@annamurtaugh3435 The genus was homo erectus during the start of the Stone Age. Our species, homo sapiens, didn't arrive until about 100k - 50k years ago. Agriculture didn't start until the beginning of the Neolithic which was only 10k years ago. And even if the idea is that we had already evolved 3M years ago, we had evolved into meat eaters at that point. Homo erectus were meat eaters.

[@extropiantranshuman]

well the stone age lasted a long time. If you talked about cenozoic era for instance - that's a very long time. Just because the stone age started 3 million years ago - doesn't mean we started eating meat 3 million years ago - it was actually around 2 million years ago. Humans ate mostly plants for about 2.5 million years at least before animal products - making animal products something we 'evolved' to do - but we never fully 'evolved' for it - otherwise it wouldn't cause people the health issues of today. And honestly - if we look at dairy - that's only about 10,000 years ago. So we have to realize animals products haven't really been in our diets much.

[@extropiantranshuman]

it still took millions of years for humans to take stone tools and use it for meat - what's your point? Yes - the introduction of stone tools led to people starting to think about what to do with it - and then sooner or later they figured it out.

[@steffenfrost]

@@extropiantranshuman I wasn't talking about the entire Cenozoic Era, the beginning of which our ancestors were shrews. Whether we started eating meat 2 instead of 3 million years ago, you still are making my point. That is over 100,000 generations since we have been eating meat, and thus our bodies are evolved meat eaters. The cause of people's health issues is not from eating meat or animal fats, but rather from seed oil, refined sugar, and processed food which were introduced into our food supply about a hundred years ago and particularly have increased over the last 20 years. If you eat factory-raised meat with other processed foods slathered in seed oils, you are going to get sick. If you start eating whole foods without seed oils or salt, you will get better regardless if you eat meat or not.

[@vLadybugRN]

Fat does not make you fat… Dr Gundry.

[@traveler65]

"The fat you eat is the fat you wear." Dr. McDougall Makes sense to me😊🌱💚

[@TLC717]

People love to hear good things about their bad food choices.

[@dj.h7424]

Gundry is widely and reliably debunked.

[@extropiantranshuman]

@@traveler65 me too - dr gundry - super not logical. That's like saying eating protein doesn't lead to your body building muscle (I've actually heard people say this!).

[@MrSteve_Luddite.]

Ludicrous way of living 😂

[@aboutsupplies]

It seems irresponsible for a doctor not warning or giving guidance around the pesticides in fruit and vegetables when recommending them.

[@daviddad1234]

Absolutely. Unless someone can afford eating all organic we are consuming glyphosate which is killing our microbiome so what good is it to eat all vegan full of glyphosate’s.

[@dianamarie1652]

Organic

[@blackpalacemusic]

Pesticide poisoning is not a wide spread issue.

[@aboutsupplies]

@@blackpalacemusic Warning: 75% of Conventional Produce Contains Potentially Harmful Pesticides, "Dirty Dozen" Worst Offenders at 95% 75% of Conventional Produce Contains Potentially Harmful Pesticides, "Dirty Dozen" Worst Offenders at 95% This year, EWG determined that 75 percent of all conventional fresh produce sampled had residues of potentially harmful pesticides. But for items on the Dirty Dozen, a whopping 95 percent of samples contain pesticides. EWG’s 2024 Shopper’s Guide to Pesticides in Produce analyzes data from tests conducted by the Department of Agriculture and Food and Drug Administration on 47,510 samples of 46 fruits and vegetables.

[@ZmogusJaponija]

@@daviddad1234 I really do not understand issue with pesticides. Animals and fish eat plants which at the same time are contaminated and the consentration of chemicals in the animal foods is much higher. But yes, you can buy organic if you too much concerned about that. And here in Europe it is only marginaly more expensive.

[@sandracook7868]

Has Dr Barnard lost his marbles we are not decendents of apes! God made man and he made Animals.

[@extropiantranshuman]

says you - but unless you back it up - a random youtube comment doesn't mean anything.

[@abhayagarwal5097]

I do believe that God made everything but we don't really know. All we can do believe in things based on science as that makes the most sense instead of believing in some magical being but having nothing to back up the claim. Even if God doesn't exist we would need to have some proof that we were created by them at some point.

[@extropiantranshuman]

@@abhayagarwal5097 well absence of evidence is a logical fallacy, but at the same time - we shouldn't believe in something without proof. The fact that there is something written in a book somewhere is some proof of some existence - so there is something that is real, rather than 'magical', but the whole telling everyone we're not descendants of apes without proof that stacks against all the proof out there - it's just to prove a non-point.

[@sandracook7868]

Thank you all for you're replies which I accept as you're views. please do read Genesis chapters 1 - 3 in the Bible which I believe is the word of God along with millions of people around the world. I would add if we are all supposedly descendent from apes and monkeys ,why are apes still around?

[@extropiantranshuman]

@@sandracook7868 you're welcome - thanks for taking it graciously. The thing is - in a large enough population, there's divergence - where a few that become different in some way (genetically, geographically, etc.) will start to turn into a new species, but the ones that're left stay the same. Sometimes the divergence leads to the remaining population so small - that they go extinct, but not all. Think about technology - maybe some people switch to digital downloads for music, whereas the rest of the population uses CDs, and some of the ones who didn't switch to CDs are still listening to vinyl and so on. Just because there's a shift to something new doesn't mean everything else goes away - and that's a good thing! You can (sometimes) tell that us becoming humans is relatively recent if who we're related to's still alive! And yes, I read genesis - but just because the bible says something - who knows if it's accurate or not due to invasions and destruction of temples and different versions of the same book - what's what. Everyone has a different idea of what their religion's about, so who really knows the correct answer?

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

Homemade lamb curry today. Nootrishuss & deelishuss.. but quite expensive, as the meat is local.

[@TLC717]

Your point? You are talking about eating meat on a discussion about a diet that excludes meat. Disrespectful.

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

@@TLC717 The BS that is WFPB is disrespectful to the entire human species.😜

[@tia8489]

It would have have taken less effort to just spell nutritious and delicious properly. I wouldn't take dietary advice from you...

[@Unmasking_Viandalisme]

@@tia8489 I'm not offering dietary advice. My hope is that people adopt an objective approach to diet, rather than that of an overwrought skoolgurl.

[@extropiantranshuman]

pay with your health and wallet - that's consistency for you.

[@polibm6510]

Barnard is one of the biggest liar of the vegan world.

[@tia8489]

Can't wait to see your evidence...

[@extropiantranshuman]

and you're his biggest supporter for boosting the algorithm. Well if he's a liar - you're a part of contributing and encouraging it then.

[@eugenefirebird8938]

Nah. He's telling the truth.

[@polibm6510]

@tia8489 He's lying from the start. We definitively evolved eating meat and our body is a proof. For example pH human stomach is more accidic than lions. We didn't start as carnivores but scavengers... Enough?

[@extropiantranshuman]

@@polibm6510 not quite sure - they both have HCl - which is the highest you can go. Also if we started as scavengers - how's he lying?