Pi news 91. A New Pi, 16GB Pi 5 & Vulkan 1.3

[@JeffGeerling]

Hope Raspberry Pi adds a cheaper 1 or 2 GB option too, would love to get a Pi 5 under $60!

[@zuggranate8043]

I would love to have a cm5

[@catto-from-heaven]

Most rpi projects can be easily achieved with 1GB ram. That's why they don't release it, this way they can force people and even enterprises to buy a more expensive model

[@EugeniaLoli]

You need a minimum of 4 GBs these days to browse the internet, and 2 GBs to run a server, like Emby or Jellyfin. So it makes no sense to sell 1 or 2 GB versions anymore.

[@TacticianTilted]

@@catto-from-heaven don't even bother making a pi5 1GB just make a better pi0 if you actually need the performance of a pi5 then you should buy it with proper ram nothing less than 2GB Theres a reason Pi4 1GB was discontinued originally

[@TacticianTilted]

I don't understand why Raspberry Pi Foundation can't do similar to other tech companies and lower price on older pis. rather than release a Pi5 1GB model why not cheapen the Pi4 2GB model to take the place as an entry level full pi or how about for the 1GB pi5 take off what makes it cost more like the pcie port and maybe some other things and repackage it as a Pi5 A+ board

[@ricardoaugusto2333]

fwupd is a daemon for Linux distros to manage and update firmware in hardware devices. It's generic for all hardware, RaspberryPi OS has a specific tool for the RPi's, and what it means is that basic support has been added so that in the future generic ARM64 distros can install on the RPi and manage the firmware without Raspberry Pi's specific tools for the hardware.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

Firmware should never be updated automatically through some kind of daemon. Firmware is usually proprietary in nature and can be the difference between a piece of hardware working or just failing completely. It should be manually installed and tested first. Just because something does exist does not mean it should exist.

[@ricardoaugusto2333]

@@terrydaktyllus1320, the fact that fwupd exists does not at all mean that firmware will be updated automatically. It means that there is an open source independent utility that can be used to update firmware removing the dependency on proprietary tools from the vendor.

[@GraaviticusIII]

During the Spring I stopped by a store we have around here meant for farmers, hunters, and anything a rural person might need, so naturally they have a gun shop. I went there to buy a pistol and the guy told me to go to this screen, mouse, and keyboard set up behind me and answer all the questions on it while he runs my background check and all that good stuff. When I went up to it I was pretty curious what was running it bc at first it did just look like nothing but peripherals like I mentioned earlier, but then I noticed behind the monitor a black, plastic case with the Raspberry Pi logo on it and realized that's what I was using. I think it was a Pi 3 model B+

[@alevans51]

Ah! Jeff Geerling! Good going! Thanks for showing him!

[@SpeccyMan]

I'm wondering if we will see a Raspberry Pi 500, with internal M2 SSD drive. That would be something.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

Who would buy one of those? By the time you priced out such a device, it would be as expensive as a laptop anyway - so then just buy a laptop anyway.

[@michaelmayer775]

Thank you for covering my Portable Pi 84 Project!

[@mkumar04]

need raspberry pi zero 3w with 1 and 2 gb ram version

[@WhiteG60]

Yeah, a Zero3W with maybe a clocked down RPi4 chip and 1GB would be awesome for $10-15.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

The Orange Pi Zero 2W has a 4GB version for just for a few dollars more than a Raspberry Pi 2W - it's a great little SBC, but not an option for most people in the Raspberry Pi ecosystem because they only know how to do stuff if someone makes them a step-by-step video. Stick an Orange Pi in front of most of them and say "put Linux on it" and they wouldn't have a clue how to do it.

[@WhiteG60]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 I've got a OrangePi5+, some Atomic PIs and BTT CB1s here. The OPi5+ is pretty good, AtomicPis easy since it's X86, but the problem is that the graphics drivers for nonRPis are typically not good in Linux. Made all the more infuriating by the fact that you put Android on them and they can do 4K60 video flawlessly while struggling to do 1080p30 in a browser in Linux. The Panfrost drivers for the RK chips works well if you can get it to actually work, but even then, getting browser video acceleration is a dice roll. What's good about the RPis is that they do the work and make the software work very well. OrangePi has typically 'made it work' and tossed it over the fence to let the community deal with the rest while they move on to the next shiny SoC. That's seemingly slowed down as the release of new high end SoCs has slowed down, but they don't seem to be putting in much more effort once the hardware is released.

[@mkumar04]

​@@terrydaktyllus132015$ vs 60$ , genius ??

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@mkumar04 I have absolutely no idea what point you think you are making. You've clearly not checked the prices for Orange Pi 2W boards. I suggest you do that now in order to become better informed than you are currently. Off you go then...

[@cgwworldministries83]

fwupd is something that is part of Linux itself, the pi firmware updater was it's own 3rd party utility. Having raspberry pi support native on the Linux kernel vs having a 3rd party utility that runs on top alleviates heavy lifting for ARM64 itself. The Pi Foundation could stop developing the firmware updater tomorrow and now use fwupd and streamline updates to the pi regardless of your distribution. You could be running a custom version of Gentoo and as long as the kernel is new enough, you wouldn't need to switch to pi-os to receive firmware updates.

[@bmanske1]

Lee, have you uploaded an image of the OS that you have customized lately? I have downloaded a couple of versions in the past and was wondering if you've updated it.

[@leepspvideo]

This is the latest My Linux setup Raspberry Pi 5 part 3. KDE Plasma kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnnMXpyHfptrsLs

[@Kw1161]

Thanks Lee for another interesting video of the new Raspberry Pi Pico and accompanying accessories.! So many offerings but have a finite wallet…😂! Have a great day!

[@SP95]

So Vulkan 1.3 is finally there, nice ✅

[@DamuDamu-t4g]

Just wondering if there is any update in emulating the switch on the rpi 5

[@leepspvideo]

I have launched it with some homebrew games. I didn’t make a video as Nintendo is very litigious at this time and its still a current platform

[@alexallmodelsmechanic]

16gb, SSD , kali linux, portable hacking machine and 3.5 lcd, SSH.

[@joshualachenmeier]

Haha, this is cool my pictures from my local best buy I posted in raspberry pi facebook group were in the video

[@christopher480]

wow you are really speeding thru this :)

[@ernestgalvan9037]

@ 03:58 “if you’re looking to fix your Pi”…. What is the problem being ‘fixed’?

[@leepspvideo]

It’s in the video linked. Is your Pi broken?

[@ernestgalvan9037]

@@leepspvideo thanks

[@WR3ND]

Hit F11. Your taskbar tray panel is confusing me... 😅

[@ralphmcmahan2139]

not that model but we had TRS-80s in my high school

[@SMorrisRose]

We used to call them "Trash-80s" not because they actually sucked but it was just too easy.

[@leecohen1546]

I have a question and I thought you might be able to help me. I recently brought the pironman5 case. I am trying to boot up with a 512gb sdcard, and it doesn't boot. I tried an 8 gb card, and it worked? Would you know possibly why that happens.. Thank-you

[@leepspvideo]

@@leecohen1546 If you re flash the image and it still doesn’t boot. Possible fake or faulty card. Try it in an sd card reader

[@leecohen1546]

@@leepspvideo doss it Matter mircosdxc or the other type?

[@leepspvideo]

@@leecohen1546 All these work Great budget storage for Raspberry Pi. 17 SD cards speed test. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXyYao2iYrGkhcU Raspberry Pi 5 Vs Pi 4. micro sd speed tests kzbin.info/www/bejne/epTcdKWLq5KAgtk

[@shawn4063]

Hey i feel like your the right person to ask. Is it possible to use a raspberry pi 5 and 2tb or more launch box for games?!?! Could be a cool video but what do i know haha love the vids btw cant stop watching ❤

[@leepspvideo]

@@shawn4063 I have used a 4tb

[@shawn4063]

@leepspvideo if you don't mind how did you get it working and what launchbox because I got another answer saying I can't because of windows cause the pi can't run it

[@leepspvideo]

@@shawn4063 I would use Retropie this is an unofficial build from the Retropie forums retropie.org.uk/forum/post/298705 You can run the games on a 4tb drive erase the drive with Raspberry Pi imager. See this video Retropie 4.7.1 Official. Setup USB drive for roms and emulators. Part 1. Raspberry Pi 4 2GB. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2awl4aih9yMfas

[@shawn4063]

@@leepspvideo oh wow thank you your much help🩵

[@Onyx-it8gk]

So glad to see some more OS support! Don't get me wrong, I love RPi OS, but the option to get newer software without having to compile from source will be super nice and welcomed.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

So what you're suggesting is that someone else has to put in more time and effort just so you get more up-to-date software while you sit back and do nothing? What stops you going to Github, downloading some source code yourself and following the documentation on how to compile it? Expand your horizons somewhat, take some initiative yourself to learn by putting in some time and effort, rather than expecting everyone else to do it for you free of charge.

[@Onyx-it8gk]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 I really don't understand the reason for your unhinged comment and personal attack. It sounds like you're projecting. Have a nice day.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@Onyx-it8gk If you don't see my point then it probably proves self-entitlement on your part - and wins me the discussion. Which is now closed.

[@Onyx-it8gk]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 You obviously don't know anything about me and chose to make a series of incorrect assumptions and randomly attack me personally, which reflects on you, not me.

[@lewisgriffiths5997]

​@@terrydaktyllus1320dude grow up already you claim to use linux since 1996 but whine about every little thing it makes you look like a entitled child if you dont like the current state of rpi foundation keep it to yourself and act your age it aint hard

[@lazyfifty50]

I saw your android video to install on pie 5 , but for some reason the system turns off it self .. I have flashed on usb drive .. please help

[@leepspvideo]

@@lazyfifty50 did you changee the config.txt to boot from usb? It’s in the video Lineage OS 21 Android 14 on Raspberry Pi 5. Install the Google Play store and expand the partition. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4Opf5WCfst5q5I

[@123uem]

😮😮😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@therobyouknowtv]

No 16Gb RaspberryPi 5 yet, officially, despite your video subject title, according to their website just now (9pm BST 12 Aug 2024). So unsure of the what the title mentioning it was for. Would have liked to have this video chapter-ised so could skip to the mention of it to understand exactly. But the among the links in the description, there is one about someone's attempt to unofficially upgrade it to 16Gb, so I'm guessing it is about that.

[@mrpickles619]

5:59

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

" Would have liked to have this video chapter-ised" So you can't sit through an entire video in order to try to learn a few things with concentration and focus? How do you ever learn anything?

[@therobyouknowtv]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 mention of the supposed rp5 16gb made me want to pinpoint what exactly this was about. I feel it is a bit click baity I'm reluctant to say given that this is not official. When one comes across a new channel, one doesn't know what kind of content there is, so would want to dip and and out initially.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@therobyouknowtv What do you feel that a 16GB Pi 5 would bring you that a 8 GB Pi does not do already. I can assure you as a Linux user since 1996, it will make very little difference to how well Linux runs. And if you want it because of privacy-hating and bloated Windows 11 then you're missing the point entirely - because the two reasons to run Windows 11 (assuming you despise your own personal privacy) is for video editing and AAA gaming, neither of which can be done effectively on a Pi anyway.

[@therobyouknowtv]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 Not buying a Pi 5 yet, but always curious about new developments, which is why I was generally interested - so I just came here to see what they had to say. I already have a Pi 1, 3 and Zero W, with projects on those keeping me busy. On your point on Linux RAM requirements, yes I run Zorin OS Pro Linux on a 4Gb Panasonic FZ-G1 Toughpad tablet PC. It's beautiful - OS so nicely designed, most good looking Linux - ever. touch gestures all work. OS takes less than 2Gb RAM, fan runs quieter, compared to when it's booted into Windows 10: 3.9Gb usage, louder fan. The tablet is rugged, with bright screen, works so well in bright sunlight, SIM card works too on Zorin. And functional - all the command line tools etc. Why shouldn't we have both form AND functionality and not make a virtue out of complexity. No affiliation, incentive or referral. I paid for Zorin OS Pro and happy to reward a great company with their efforts. I also run Windows 11 on another tablet, a dell 7220. Will prolly put Zorin OS Pro on that in the future. Windows 10 on a desktop, macOS on M2 Air and Ubuntu Studio. And work with Linux a lot on servers.

[@AbeStephan]

Thank you and Jeff Geerling for your pi videos and especially pi news . Always a fun and informative watch .

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

Attaching 50,000 hard disks to a Pi may be "fun" and get you views on KZbin but it serves no purpose in the real world - especially in front of, say, a classroom of kids that you are trying to teach Raspberry Pi skills with small and practical projects.

[@AbeStephan]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 really ? We got a whiner here . Always gotta whine whine whine .

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@AbeStephan No, you have a "true engineer" here who asks practical questions about what some creators do by "educating" their viewers. So do feel free to remove your nose from between Geerling's a$$ cheeks at your leisure and start developing some critical thinking skills of your own. You should question what you see on here, not just "play sheeple" and "consume" everything.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@AbeStephan No, what you have is a "real engineer" here with proper critical thinking skills who questions what he sees on here and elsewhere in his world. The opposite of "engineer" is "fanboy" and you've shown me clearly which of the two I am addressing here.

[@AbeStephan]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 and you're whining about it

[@mhslab3947]

Sorry OOT, my raspberry pi 5 cant detect link from the ethernet eth0, some says it because EEE, but i cant find out how to turn it off, or is it because of the EEE Anyone can help?

[@leepspvideo]

@@mhslab3947 what os?

[@luiscarlosmartinez2382]

fwupd/fwupd = aims to make updating firmware on Linux automatic, safe, and reliable.

[@minigpracing3068]

Need a Zero 2 W with 2gb of ram, 512mb just isnt enough for some things.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

Orange Pi Zero 2W has 4GB RAM for a couple of dollars more than a Pi Zero 2W - but nobody wants those because most people in the Raspberry Pi ecosystem can only do stuff if someone makes them a step-by-step video for them. Put an Orange Pi in front of them and say "put Linux on it" and they wouldn't have a clue where to start.

[@minigpracing3068]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 While that is generally true, you have to admit that the Pi ecosystem has very strong OS and software support where some of the other hardware does not. I'll have to look at the Orange Pi stuff, they have a pretty strong ecosystem, I just generally forget about them. Also, not everyone starts out as a Linux Genius, Pi reduced the burden to entry which seems to disgust a lot of Linux users. You need to remember that not everyone has the knowledge (myself included) to compile a new kernel and compile an OS. If the elitism puts people off, all of these cool little SBC die for lack of popularity. I can do some things, but a weak ecosystem makes it extremely hard and just puts me off (and most other people). You can't learn new things when the system gets in your way for the basic things. I'll say that it's easier for me to get things done and learn on an x86 system than some of the strange devices that use Arm. There are generally more people in the Pi community who will not only help with the issue, but explain what and why, which helps us learn.

[@lnk77]

confusing presentation