Pickleball Paddle Tier List UPDATE for Fall 2024 | Rackets & Runners

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@BH-qd4yb
@BH-qd4yb Ай бұрын
Luca, thank you for the list update and for your succinct narrative of the paddles! Just a point of clarification, it has recently come to light that it is not real titanium dioxide used in paddles such as the Shogun, but a synthetic fiber that looks metallic in color. Thus, it is called ‘titanium’ as a reference to its color, not the compound titanium dioxide. I confirmed this fact with BNB, as I own the Shogun and love it! It might be a marketing ploy, or possibly some translation confusion with the Chinese manufacturers, but I really don’t care as the Shogun is such a great paddle!
@biagiosguera8918
@biagiosguera8918 Ай бұрын
I don't see any of the new Paddletek's I recently made the change to the 12.7 MM TKO post Joola failure and it's an amazing weapon. Wondering why you didn't consider or place the Paddletek anywhere? Love your work and reviews, very comprehensive and fair.
@minhanhtran5836
@minhanhtran5836 Ай бұрын
Hi Luca, any thought about proton series one ?
@LilNipsFatal
@LilNipsFatal Ай бұрын
Curious how the J2TI is going to fit into the tier list and don't see the J1 or J1H on here. Thoughts?
@hawhiasoo9351
@hawhiasoo9351 Ай бұрын
Cannot find Volair Mach2 . How would it rank on this list?
@lescobar55
@lescobar55 20 күн бұрын
I can't believe the Mach2 isn't included!
@nixeighty6
@nixeighty6 Ай бұрын
Is this list posted somewhere? It's not easy to try to view here. I can't find it on rackets and runners website
@kurtjacobson467
@kurtjacobson467 Ай бұрын
Hey Luca. Great video. Love your tier lists. I'm wondering why you chose not to have the Thrive Azul 16 on your list and if you did, where you'd place it. Thanks.
@lukevialpando261
@lukevialpando261 6 күн бұрын
Hey Luca any thoughts on the Friday paddle
@ginjaninja3627
@ginjaninja3627 Ай бұрын
Do you not review Engage paddles? I’ve been loving the Engage Pursuit Pro1 6.0 though I’d like the sweet spot to be bigger.
@braves2510
@braves2510 Ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to put this together. A nice addition would be at the end to share your current favorite and why, I understand each player looks for different things but would be interested to hear your current main
@matthoward4701
@matthoward4701 Ай бұрын
Still no Mach 2 Forza (arguably the grand father of the continuing widebody wave, and no 11six24 Monarch AC? I don’t know if we will ever see a face that is solely titanium. Given that it is polyester it may not be durable enough.
@kabob21
@kabob21 Ай бұрын
Considering how few titanium fibers are woven in with the carbon fiber in the Nexus and B&B Shogun I don’t think you can
@HM-gm1kn
@HM-gm1kn Ай бұрын
its a canadian company and both of those seem to be USA only. They cost a good bit extra for shipping and fees.
@matthoward4701
@matthoward4701 Ай бұрын
@@HM-gm1kn That can’t be it. There are already older models by Volair and 11six24 on the list.
@James-mk8jp
@James-mk8jp Ай бұрын
No proton or olympus?
@DannyBPlays
@DannyBPlays 28 күн бұрын
I'm surprised no rating for either pikkl paddles. I'd be interested to know if you consider them A or B
@shanepeirce470
@shanepeirce470 Ай бұрын
Is the Hyperion V1 any good? I found a good deal on one and wondering if it’s worth purchasing
@LETHALxMODs
@LETHALxMODs 28 күн бұрын
Also looking for Thrive Azul placement, please talk about it in the next update!!!
@marct6650
@marct6650 2 күн бұрын
can you review the spartus olympus
@shawnmaloney6845
@shawnmaloney6845 Ай бұрын
Don't see the Legacy Pro S (like wider than long -spin player) anywhere on here. Been using it past year and love it but getting ready for upgrade. What's best spin wide body without losing pop out on market now?
@nattaponperavanichkul4842
@nattaponperavanichkul4842 Ай бұрын
Does 6.0 Ruby is good for me as I'm a beginner which used to play badminton before, 36 years' old speedy and control play style thanks!!
@troymhamner
@troymhamner Ай бұрын
When will you be carrying Reload?
@Everheartt
@Everheartt Ай бұрын
Have you tried the new slk halo’s? Power and pro?
@michelepo323
@michelepo323 Ай бұрын
Can you review the new Engage Evolution Extreme V2? Is it a good paddle? Is it a power paddle? Thanks! 🙂
@mr.mr.3301
@mr.mr.3301 Ай бұрын
They really need to come up with a metric that limits the speed of a ball based on a certain amount of force. If it’s too fast or goes faster than that, then the paddle is not approved. It’s pretty simple really. They have done that with baseball bats over the years as technology got better. I like the ability to get a paddle that specializes hell one place but on the other side, there’s gotta be limits . I’m nowhere good enough that it even matters but I will say at my older age. It’s hard for me to enjoy a pickle ball game that doesn’t have volley and I can’t return the serve. That sort of takes away the fun of Pickleball for a large majority of us.
@jvu1277
@jvu1277 Ай бұрын
What are your thought on the ProKinnex? I've been using the black ace for about a year... but this seems to be a brand that is off the radar
@hay-z318
@hay-z318 Ай бұрын
Where would the Selkirk SLK Halo Power and Selkirk SLK Halo Control will be in your list?
@declan2253
@declan2253 Ай бұрын
Hey Luca. Have you tried the 6.0 Black Diamond Amethyst Pro JMV edition?
@Ethan624-b6s
@Ethan624-b6s Ай бұрын
Started out with the Vatic Prism Flash and just upgraded to ProLine Energy S. I’m happy!
@davidchapman5853
@davidchapman5853 Ай бұрын
Great video! I’m thinking of getting an elongated paddle. Which would you recommend between the R3 and J7K? Thanks. Hope to place an order with you tonight.
@zachcarmichael699
@zachcarmichael699 Ай бұрын
Ronbus Ripple R1.14 = God tier
@kabnis2022
@kabnis2022 Ай бұрын
Try out the Perseus Gen 2 again (new batch). It plays pretty much the same ( a touch less aerodynamic) as the Hyperion C2 now
@hellobenny
@hellobenny Ай бұрын
It seems like your rating of paddles is heavily influenced by your singles experience, however singles is rarely played by most players bc it's essentially just tennis.
@garygorgo3600
@garygorgo3600 Ай бұрын
Have you tried the new Ronbus Ripple paddle? Would like your review !
@blowtorchxl
@blowtorchxl Ай бұрын
where would you put the friday challenger?
@realreviews2427
@realreviews2427 Ай бұрын
Don’t buy friday
@mr.mr.3301
@mr.mr.3301 Ай бұрын
Titanium is polyester. I enjoyed this.
@andrebyte
@andrebyte Ай бұрын
Thanks for backing up my Shapeshifter purchase 😂
@kyleseber
@kyleseber 21 күн бұрын
What about the Hudef viva green three. I need y’all’s opinion on this and where it would be on the list. Why is it not on the list is a better question.
@kyleseber
@kyleseber 21 күн бұрын
Also why not the Spartus Apollo
@prithvibumia2941
@prithvibumia2941 Ай бұрын
Was just waiting for this tier list. Ordered myself the j2k. Now just gotta wait
@anthonyfernandez5875
@anthonyfernandez5875 Ай бұрын
Best paddle I’ve ever owned
@mattwyro7339
@mattwyro7339 Ай бұрын
Have you tested anything from carbon pickle. Not crbn carbon but truly carbon pickle. The have the air pro and max as their line and I am super curious how those play
@thomasmosley5376
@thomasmosley5376 Ай бұрын
I’ve got one and it’s awesome
@Itsyourmonee
@Itsyourmonee Ай бұрын
Where does the Shogun go? I love that thing. Please update.
@stymeron
@stymeron Ай бұрын
Great list. Thanks for putting this together, and props for comments around the subjectiveness of this. I gather you haven't hit the Monarchs yet? No Thrive paddles?
@forspamhaha
@forspamhaha 23 күн бұрын
Where would the paddletek Tko-c/cx go?
@HowieB-isMe3885
@HowieB-isMe3885 Ай бұрын
Luca, where can we examine your top tier list????
@zzq727
@zzq727 Ай бұрын
Where do you put B&B Shogun?
@akgballa02
@akgballa02 Ай бұрын
I second this question, trying to decide between that and the j2k
@umbcTKE53
@umbcTKE53 18 күн бұрын
I didn’t see you mention any Ace Pickleball paddles. I just bought the Ace of Clubs without trying it, so wondering how you think that one is!
@RacketsandRunnersPickleball
@RacketsandRunnersPickleball 13 күн бұрын
We don't carry them unfortunately.
@Tal13
@Tal13 Ай бұрын
J2K owner looking for a little more power/pop without sacrificing spin/control/stability. Shapeshifter seems to be the go to recommendation. Would you agree? Any other recs? (Mark one, Apollo, j3k, j7k, etc.) thank you
@codywalker2250
@codywalker2250 Ай бұрын
Spartus olympus
@hungfbi69
@hungfbi69 Ай бұрын
Edge 18k power pro
@hungfbi69
@hungfbi69 Ай бұрын
Shapeshidter for sure
@sebastiengagnon8370
@sebastiengagnon8370 Ай бұрын
I have the new gearbox ultimate and it’s awesome paddle
@iammedranoja
@iammedranoja Ай бұрын
what’s the best value paddle?
@buffalufacus
@buffalufacus Ай бұрын
Depends on what you mean by "Value" - $100 everyone used to recommend the Prism Flash Pro, but at this point, find a discount code an grab a J2K - it's such a crazy paddle for $135 after discount
@matthoward4701
@matthoward4701 Ай бұрын
@@buffalufacus I’m hearing great things about the 11six24 Monarch Jelly Bean. I have the Monarch All Court ($129 with code) and am loving it!
@TheJonbonesjones
@TheJonbonesjones Ай бұрын
Have you heard anything about the new J2TI paddle in comparison with the J2K? Debating if I should wait for the j2ti if it’s going to be a better overall paddle than the 2k. Thanks!
@HowieB-isMe3885
@HowieB-isMe3885 Ай бұрын
I think so. Ti is looking good! I was going to go with Rhombus Ripple, but there are some issues for them to resolve.
@tielles2806
@tielles2806 Ай бұрын
Help me choose j2k or perseus 3s plz
@rollingchopsticks
@rollingchopsticks 20 күн бұрын
J2ti better
@DaveBourland
@DaveBourland Ай бұрын
Paddletek would be awesome….number 1 players paddle….
@dv8tion388
@dv8tion388 Ай бұрын
Where's the M2F???
@modified93tc
@modified93tc Ай бұрын
Mach 2 forza
@deadjeem9904
@deadjeem9904 Ай бұрын
thoughts on jojolemon?
@whatthefyke
@whatthefyke Ай бұрын
Where is the B&B shogun?
@greentea1155
@greentea1155 Ай бұрын
He put it in A tier @27:35
@shockingbanglay535
@shockingbanglay535 Ай бұрын
Could you review the Gamma Airbender Paddles?
@meedamaster6850
@meedamaster6850 Ай бұрын
Shogun by Bread&Butter??
@VB6000.
@VB6000. Ай бұрын
J3K Pro lover here!
@ClownAl3n
@ClownAl3n 17 күн бұрын
Where does the Ezone Plus rate? I dont see it.
@RacketsandRunnersPickleball
@RacketsandRunnersPickleball 13 күн бұрын
We haven't tried the new Yonex paddles yet, unfortunately.
@karepy
@karepy Ай бұрын
No halo pro xl? Come on brand new paddle with Kevlar and carbon. Kind of a miss here
@DisPickleball
@DisPickleball Ай бұрын
Nice crib Luca AUSSIE FAN🇦🇺
@SteveAtkins-c3y
@SteveAtkins-c3y Ай бұрын
Why are none of the Paddletek paddles anywhere on this list?!?!?
@catalinbobe2342
@catalinbobe2342 Ай бұрын
Yes, you are biased about the J2K! I bought a J2K from your store and after two weeks of playing it looks way worse than an SLK Halo after almost one year of playing. I wish I could upload a pic of the paddle...
@forrealfifavids7144
@forrealfifavids7144 Ай бұрын
What is the lowest priced S tier paddle?
@justinh1258
@justinh1258 Ай бұрын
No shogun?
@kimjaesung5938
@kimjaesung5938 Ай бұрын
What i have been waiting for
@kiwiroy48
@kiwiroy48 Ай бұрын
No Gearbox paddles?
@billgrather6509
@billgrather6509 Ай бұрын
He has 5 on there, including my new Pro Ultimate, best paddle out there imho.
@trumpisastump9382
@trumpisastump9382 Ай бұрын
Reading is hard.
@DJShiv29
@DJShiv29 Ай бұрын
you are the GOAT
@PlayLegendsSports
@PlayLegendsSports Ай бұрын
Waaay too many awesome paddles off this list to make it totally flawed. Gruvn? Thrive? Paddletek? Several others!
@ernest4483
@ernest4483 Ай бұрын
Another great content and tiers explanation, no Engage and Paddletek paddles
@AlanThorsen
@AlanThorsen Ай бұрын
Know $'s involved, but interesting no pros using kevlar paddles. Volair Mach Forza only B tier ?
@matthoward4701
@matthoward4701 Ай бұрын
And that’s the M1F, no listing of M2F
@carlrodrigues6919
@carlrodrigues6919 Ай бұрын
Mark paddles great paddles and priced right
@RC-tm8jo
@RC-tm8jo Ай бұрын
Mark One and Spartus Apollo are my two favorite paddles I've ever used.
@prithvibumia2941
@prithvibumia2941 Ай бұрын
Lets freaking gooo
@joeluk9976
@joeluk9976 Ай бұрын
Plz review Hush thx
@limlimma
@limlimma Ай бұрын
Thanks as always Luca! Curious about your thoughts on the Thrive Azul? How come no Thrive paddles?
@SamiraMahi-l2k
@SamiraMahi-l2k Ай бұрын
Walker Paul Johnson Sharon Anderson Shirley
@antoniosyrakis9329
@antoniosyrakis9329 Ай бұрын
Where would you put thrive surge?
@ginjaninja3627
@ginjaninja3627 Ай бұрын
Nice update. You convinced me that I made a mistake getting the j2k pro. I should get the J2K or the J7K. The tighter weave on the Pro versions just muddies the waters, taking away what the paddles are best at. I want the extra dwell time.
@DisPickleball
@DisPickleball Ай бұрын
No Engage Pursuit Pro1 Luca
@MonohanMedia
@MonohanMedia Ай бұрын
Would love to see this covered.
@brandonhurt3947
@brandonhurt3947 Ай бұрын
Lets goooo
@yummybong148
@yummybong148 Ай бұрын
GIVE ME A MARK ONE X 16MM AND GIVE ME A PADDLETEK BANTOM TKO-CX 14MM I NEED EM BOUGHT TO BE PRIME TIME PB SEASON SOON NOW THAT GOLFS ENDING.
@buffalufacus
@buffalufacus Ай бұрын
I'm a J2K enjoyer, but throwing the 7K and 3K up top has my wallet shaking...
@BlackburnTraining
@BlackburnTraining Ай бұрын
What about any Thrive paddles??
@JaxxCrash
@JaxxCrash Ай бұрын
Damn no monarch all court
@carlrodrigues6919
@carlrodrigues6919 Ай бұрын
To me the best also have the Apollo
@JaxxCrash
@JaxxCrash Ай бұрын
@carlrodrigues6919 yeah alot of surprising no shows. But he reviewed the monarch
@matthoward4701
@matthoward4701 Ай бұрын
@@JaxxCrash I can’t find the 11Six24 Monarch review
@RC-tm8jo
@RC-tm8jo Ай бұрын
Mark One (formerly Mark Kinetic) should be S tier on this list, as should Spartus Apollo. Hudef Viva Pro Gen 3 is another great paddle.
@OnRappel
@OnRappel Ай бұрын
What about the Diadem Edge 18K?
@kimjaesung5938
@kimjaesung5938 Ай бұрын
Where would Azul and Monarch all court go to?
@kaitrinh7613
@kaitrinh7613 Ай бұрын
Where's the Shogun?
@benw63
@benw63 Ай бұрын
Up in the top right
@princetonnguyen9984
@princetonnguyen9984 Ай бұрын
It's added at the end because it was out of stock in their store.
@Syndrome88
@Syndrome88 Ай бұрын
Ruby on S tier...
@wensdaypickleball
@wensdaypickleball Ай бұрын
I mean it’s the best Kevlar paddle
@tbrophwg
@tbrophwg Ай бұрын
@@wensdaypickleball I think the J2K is slightly better and so does Luca
@AlanThorsen
@AlanThorsen Ай бұрын
@@tbrophwg I don't think he is saying that at all. Depends upon what you value more, for example do you prefer the longer handle of the Ruby vs. the slightly wider face of the J2K. I've tried both a bit, my complaint with the Ruby and J2K is that they both feel significantly slower in the hands than the DBD and Vatic Flash. No doubt the kevlar faces feel softer, but I don't find the kevlar paddles any more controllable or spin friendly than the DBD (or even the Flash, although the Flash feels stiffer and poppier than the DBD). What feels better also depends a lot on the ball and playing conditions. Soft indoor balls, stiffer and poppier not a big deal, actually helps. Harder outdoor balls a slightly softer paddle definitely helps.
@tbrophwg
@tbrophwg Ай бұрын
Full disclosure, my J2K and my Chorus Shapeshifter have excellent hand speed because I have 28g Slyce end caps installed on both. They help with more than just hand speed, but that is one of the advantages gained. Can't say enough good things about my experience with them so far.
@CurmeLeila-m5w
@CurmeLeila-m5w Ай бұрын
Williams Karen Lewis Donald Martinez Amy
@limulus61
@limulus61 Ай бұрын
Nothing from Gruvn?
@afterthesmash
@afterthesmash Ай бұрын
Too much S tier.
@rafaelramos4164
@rafaelramos4164 Ай бұрын
What about Proton?
@RC-tm8jo
@RC-tm8jo Ай бұрын
Where is the Mark One, Hudef Viva Pro Gen 3, Spartus Apollo?
@jonmac380
@jonmac380 Ай бұрын
No Paddletrk tko??? Insane!
@avswish33
@avswish33 Ай бұрын
How are the pikkl paddles not on here? Can’t even take this seriously
@landonp.4073
@landonp.4073 Ай бұрын
Proton
@helloman3676
@helloman3676 Ай бұрын
No Spartus paddle is a crime to humanity and should be get you fine until you fix it. 😂😂😂
@brod1998
@brod1998 Ай бұрын
Engage?
@Ozziepb42
@Ozziepb42 Ай бұрын
No Paddletek! ....useless
@Mack-k6e
@Mack-k6e Ай бұрын
What about the Diadem Edge 18k?
@caveman1416
@caveman1416 Ай бұрын
No proton?
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