Pietta vs. Uberti: 1851 Navy

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@GunsOfTheWest
@GunsOfTheWest 3 ай бұрын
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@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison info. Thanks, Dusty Britches!
@jerseyred9554
@jerseyred9554 3 жыл бұрын
Dustin, This episode is a good example of why you have so many subscribers. Precise, direct, and easily understood by those who may be in the market for such a black powder revolver and are too timid to ask for assistance in a busy gun shop. I own a Ubretti Cattlemen, and though it obviously is not a black powder gun, for me it represents the quality & value of the manufacturer
@GunsOfTheWest
@GunsOfTheWest 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Rusty!
@HircineDaWolf
@HircineDaWolf 3 жыл бұрын
idk my 1873 Pietta is pretty nice, the grips aside which I replaced, its pretty plain jain, but action wise, its like butter
@jamesvicker65
@jamesvicker65 3 жыл бұрын
The cattleman come in black powder
@glock92squad12
@glock92squad12 2 жыл бұрын
Hi guys!!! Les uberti sont très bien même au niveau qualité de fabrication et fluidité de l arme mais maintenant le fabricant Pietta aussi c est vrai du sérieux avec leurs nouvelles machines à commande numérique dernière technologie industrielle et l avantage de Pietta c est qu on trouve des pièces assez facilement je parle pour la France cher amis tireurs,amateurs,chasseurs et collectionneurs😎salut!!!
@GunsOfTheWest
@GunsOfTheWest 3 жыл бұрын
For those asking about conical bullets, both of these revolvers will accept them without modification.
@mkultraification
@mkultraification 3 жыл бұрын
Not the lee ones. I had to modify my Ubertis for them.
@taurushipointenthusiast1306
@taurushipointenthusiast1306 3 жыл бұрын
rammer needs to be modified on the Pietta not to smash the conical
@henryofskalitz2228
@henryofskalitz2228 2 жыл бұрын
@@taurushipointenthusiast1306 simple fix is to just get a uberti rammer
@drmachinewerke1
@drmachinewerke1 2 жыл бұрын
Simple fix is a drill Faster than Amazon takes about five minutes
@deandeann1541
@deandeann1541 Жыл бұрын
@@mkultraification The Lee bullets are a little long for stock Pietta 1851's, they will work if you flatten the nose a bit.. They work fine as is in the 1859 Remingtons.
@r669charger7
@r669charger7 3 жыл бұрын
What about the cut out for conicals? Either one historically accurate or better than the other?
@HircineDaWolf
@HircineDaWolf 3 жыл бұрын
looks like ubertis are good and pietta needs modification
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear 3 жыл бұрын
My Uberti Navy has a really long loading rammer: the edge of that rammer extends 3 millimeters below the cutout, which means a conical bullet that _juuust_ clears the cutout is still going to have the nose clipped by the rammer itself. From Dustin's video on changing between rammers, he mentions the Uberti rammer is longer than the Pietta, and now I feel that this may present a problem.
@RooftopKY
@RooftopKY 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Uberti 1851 made in the mid 90's with a brass frame. I love it. Generally speaking, in all of the single action reproduction guns I own both cap and ball, and cartridge, Uberti makes a better gun.
@RiverRat1953
@RiverRat1953 3 күн бұрын
I didn’t know that Uberti made a brass frame bp revolver?
@Schlachtschule
@Schlachtschule 3 жыл бұрын
Another good video, Dustin, and very fair. I think a lot of people are still caught up in the memory of the fact that Piettas were, at one time, having significant quality problems, and they ignore the fact that Pietta has eliminated most of those.
@tannstang
@tannstang 3 жыл бұрын
Uberti for fit & finish...Pietta for better steel
@MatthewQuigley
@MatthewQuigley 3 жыл бұрын
Pietta: The cumulated assembly time in the Pietta workshop is probably less than the runtime of your video. So you get what you pay for.
@eljuano28
@eljuano28 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but I like 'em.
@MatthewQuigley
@MatthewQuigley 3 жыл бұрын
@@eljuano28 I own a Uberti 1861 .36 cal. Beautiful gun!
@deejayimm
@deejayimm 2 жыл бұрын
And yet they both have their fair share of problems...
@jacobshaffer7267
@jacobshaffer7267 3 күн бұрын
I’m bout to get my first black powder gun. Was going to get a pietta captain schaffer. Whats wrong with pietta?
@submanusn3692
@submanusn3692 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that the Uberti also has a more historically correct grip shape than the Pietta, but not owning either yet, I can't say for certain.
@asas-mb4wj
@asas-mb4wj 3 жыл бұрын
thought they changed it?
@keithhagler502
@keithhagler502 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Pietta grip contour is waaaaay off. Uberti has the correct grip contour.
@SquirrelDarling1
@SquirrelDarling1 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Uberti 49 pocket Colt and love it. Fit and finish is perfect. Maybe I got real lucky or they’re stepping up on quality? I went over tuning instructions for it, and everything seems done right from the factory, including hammer de-fanging.
@AllinGold2
@AllinGold2 2 жыл бұрын
@@keithhagler502 Pietta fixed it.
@scotthansenmtbt4110
@scotthansenmtbt4110 2 жыл бұрын
I bought one of each to compare….with my big hands, I prefer the Pietta grip….the Pietta (a 2022 model) has a way better sight picture….my Pietta has a more comfortable trigger….the fit and finish on the Uberti is better….Pietta cylinder engraving is laser etched, and Uberti is rolled….I’m not disappointed with either but I find the Pietta is more comfortable in my XL size hands….I find myself…..haven’t shot either one yet…..the Uberti is a tad more pleasing to the eye….
@vinsonstracke9171
@vinsonstracke9171 9 ай бұрын
I have the Pietta 1851 Navy Sheriff Model in 5.5" barrel in .44 BP. I have no problems, doesn't rattle. Well put together. No gaps between grips and frame. I love it.
@stektirade
@stektirade 10 ай бұрын
The italians just love putting their roll marks in terrible places, like the beretta's for example, right on the side of the front frame.
@linopetro3569
@linopetro3569 2 жыл бұрын
Uberti or Pietta Converted or original Colt Navy always a fancy gun! 😎
@BlueSkyCountry
@BlueSkyCountry 3 жыл бұрын
I own a brace of Pietta 1851s and carry them routinely for woods and trail defense. They are very well made and have no malfunctions. I examined an Uberti 1851 a few years back. It had what was called "short arbor syndrome", where the end of the cylinder pin failed to bottom out in the barrel well, causing wobble and excessive peening of the wedge upon firing. I offered to fix it for him. He agreed and I did, using my TIG welder to carefully add a layer of metal to the end of the pin, then buffing everything down to dimension using a Dremel sanding head. It worked a lot better after the fix. I repair single action revolvers. I have fixed far more Ubertis than Piettas. I would recommend a Pietta.
@82c10
@82c10 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see that someone else prefers function over fit and finish. Pietta makes a great product.
@KlingonCaptain
@KlingonCaptain 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd rather wait a few extra months and save up for the Uberti.
@eljuano28
@eljuano28 3 жыл бұрын
I have two Piettas and I understand the complaints, but I bought them to shoot, not look pretty. Historical accuracy is not a priority for me. As far as fit and finish, I assume that a Pietta is a project out of the box and that's okay with me. Part of the appeal is finishing them, but for thems that would rather skip it, pay a little more. A good fine flat file or emory board to break the sharp edges is a necessary item for a new Pietta, but the advantage is you can hone the action very precisely. The next thing is to replace the trigger group springs. It's a weak point. All in all, it comes down to what you want to do with it. I recommend a Pietta for a mechanically inclined new shooter or to anyone who doesn't intend to pretend it's the real McCoy and just enjoys jackrabbit stew. (A .36cal ball doesn't damage much meat.) Great vid, dude. Cheers!
@adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder
@adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder 3 жыл бұрын
I have two Pietta Navy models. One has perfect exterior finitions, beatifull naval battle scene engravings, but came with one of the 6 nipples too short and preventing the cap to fire and had rough finitions on the internal mechanism. I had to spend quite à lot of time to file the internal pieces, and hat to change the nipples, but now is perfect ! My second Pietta Navy is the Pietta London (it is not a copy of the second London model as the Uberty in this video, but a copy of the first London model with a square brass trigger guard), it has a very shallow naval battle engraving of poor quality, but the internals have great finition. The second model worked perfectly out of the box, but I cant do anything to improve the poor engraving quality. Anyway, nice video. Thanks !
@bruceclark5627
@bruceclark5627 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I have one of each. The uberti is by far a better, trouble free running gun. With that said,if you actually want to learn how to make a gun run yourself, go with a pietta. A complete parts kit to completely rebuild the gun can be had for less than $30.
@darkwater1967
@darkwater1967 3 жыл бұрын
I went with Pietta because in my research the Ubertis were having issues with overly long arbors, which led to multiple problems with running the gun.
@ryancawdor8083
@ryancawdor8083 3 жыл бұрын
Ive also read and encountered Uberti needing smoothing in the actions before working smoothly. Never stoned a Pietta but all my Ubertis needed stoning.
@franklinAll8735
@franklinAll8735 3 жыл бұрын
they have too short arbors, actually
@darkwater1967
@darkwater1967 3 жыл бұрын
@@franklinAll8735 You're right...I spoke in the wrong direction...:)
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear 3 жыл бұрын
My 1860 Army (2019) has a terribly short arbor: the wedge was _completely_ slack even when you took the retaining screw off and slipped it all the way in. I ended up using JB Weld and a brass nut on the end to get the wedge to bind properly at all. However, my Dragoon (also 2019) never had this problem, and even a thin washer dropped down the well proved that the arbor bottomed out properly on its own. The Leech & Rigdon Navy that I just received (2020 manufacture date) turns out to have a properly-bottomed arbor. I did a rough comparison between the 1860 Army and the L&R Navy and it looks to be that the newer frame has a markedly longer arbor, so Uberti may have gotten their act together very, very recently.
@notsosilentmajority1
@notsosilentmajority1 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like people like to bash Pietta but my first cap and ball revolver was a Pietta New Army and if it had been more money I may have never gotten into the hobby to begin with. Now, the Uberti is more appealing to me as well but Pietta is not garbage the way some people make them out to be. They usually shoot very well, and for me that's what matters most, unless you are in it only to play dress up. Thanks for explaining the differences and what to look for when considering a 1851 Navy. Well done, as usual.
@SSN515
@SSN515 3 жыл бұрын
I mostly have Uberti's. Walker, Dragoons, 1858 New Army, 1860 Army, 1860 Navy Pocket. I have a Pietta Avenging Angel. The grotesque markings and stampings on the side and barrel tops, out in the open, always turn me sour about the Pietta's. At least Uberti hides that legal required stuff under the loading levers or on the underside of the barrel, out of sight.
@Bill-yc5bg
@Bill-yc5bg 3 жыл бұрын
I'm new to old west guns. Great informative video.
@davidmcdonald4771
@davidmcdonald4771 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I have 2 Pietta 1851 Navy revolvers. 1 is period correct36 caliber) and 1 is a fantasy caliber(44 caliber). They get cleaned once a month if i am not using them. The 36 belonged to my father and was used as a cavalry officers weapon.. very accurate boomer. Re enactor.
@angrydragon2910
@angrydragon2910 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen a Uberti made Dance Brothers yet. I had to get mine from Pietta and they are fairly accurate on that model.
@KlingonCaptain
@KlingonCaptain 2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for the Uberti ever since I first watched this video almost a year ago. For a while they were almost impossible to find. They are finally available again. I plan on ordering one on Thursday after I get paid. I bought my very first gun also about a year ago. It's a 22lr Heritage Rough Rider (I also have the bonus 22wmr cylinder). I have been enjoying it quite a bit. Not exactly a 45 but it's a cheap gun with cheaper ammo.
@GunsOfTheWest
@GunsOfTheWest 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of what anyone says, I love those Heritage Rough Riders. They’re a lot of fun, especially for the money.
@HansBelphegor
@HansBelphegor 11 ай бұрын
​@@GunsOfTheWest i have an assortment of single actions and my heritage gets all the attention
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting at the doorstep, waiting impatiently for a package containing an Uberti Leech & Rigdon steel-frame Navy. It is basically a Colt 1851 Navy with the old-model two-hinge loading lever, but has a round barrel. Pietta doesn't offer the Leech & Rigdon per se, but they do offer the Griswold & Gunnison with the same style of round barrel in a brass frame instead of steel. Anyone with a Pietta G&G could try fitting the barrel and cylinder to a steel-frame Pietta 1851 to carry off the same effect as the Uberti L&R.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like I'm getting an Uberti! I have to find one with the brass grip frame though, I have my reasons! I'm glad I waited for this video. Thanks Dustin!
@gymshoe8862
@gymshoe8862 8 күн бұрын
Anyone can sweeten up an Italian pistol with simple hand tools, a small file and/or some sandpaper. Yes it leaves marks but you can touch it up with cold blue.The hammer spring is often way too strong--it can be made lighter with careful trimming (narrowing) with a grinder. It is fun to improve your handgun for little cost.
@JB-wj6vc
@JB-wj6vc 3 жыл бұрын
What do think a bout ballistics gel testing some of these guns
@jayn8392
@jayn8392 3 жыл бұрын
Both seem like fun piatols, but that Uberti looks like a much sharper gun as far as finish and final construction. I also like the look better, accuracy be damned.
@davidnicholas7624
@davidnicholas7624 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informative video. One thing many people over look is that some repro revolvers have forged frames and some have cast frames. If the distributor's description says "forged steel frame", then it is. If it just says "steel frame", then it is probably a cast frame. It's just my opinion, but I think they take a little more care with fits and finishes on the forged frame guns, that is why they cost more.
@claytonalexander9105
@claytonalexander9105 2 жыл бұрын
to my knowledge, neither Uberti nor Pietta have Cast frames. They offer the frames in Case Hardened Steel finish and normal bland steel finish which is why you often see different listings to pay attention to. If you get to looking hard with good distributers like Taylors you can also find the other finishes like blued Charcoal and engravings. But that is generally the difference in product listings. All of them are forged or machined the same.
@justme_gb
@justme_gb 3 жыл бұрын
Now how did GOTW know I was interested to know which 1851 was better?
@patrickhascall7401
@patrickhascall7401 2 жыл бұрын
One major difference you neglected to mention is the relief in the loading area. The Pietta is correct while the Uberti is horrible. You cannot properly load conical bullets in the Uberti, especially when using paper cartridges. Every single Uberti... including the Walker, had to be modified and re-blued. Second: the grip shape on the Pietta is horrible. That... and the stampings... is why I will not purchase Pietta open tops. I like Pietta Remingtons though due to the larger frame and grip over the Uberti. Not historically correct, but they fit my hand better. I will note that the 1858s all had to be tuned, lighter springs, and smoothed out to function properly. Uberti as well. Out of the box every Uberti (Pietta too) were clunky, heavy hammer draw, and the timing was awful. I have become quite skilled tuning my own revolvers over the years due to crappy Italian quality and turning them into smooth as butter. I just expect to have to do it when a new gun arrives.
@KowboyUSA
@KowboyUSA 3 жыл бұрын
Everything on the Uberti I prefer, except the plastic looking finish on the wood. The wood finish on the Pietta appears to be a light application of rubbed oil, such as tung oil. Much better for tools, imho.
@DK-gy7ll
@DK-gy7ll 3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty easy to just strip off that glossy varnish and refinish the grips. I did that to both my Ubertis and they look more authentic now.
@gymshoe8862
@gymshoe8862 8 күн бұрын
I have a Pietta with a brass frame--the trigger guard is small in diameter, I have large fingers apparently--my trigger finger will barely fit in the trigger guard! I can't think of a way to enlarge it.
@michaelbooher612
@michaelbooher612 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx Perfect video for me .totally helped me figure out which one to buy 7.5" .44 cal.. Pietta For me Found one for $286 Good place to start..
@taurushipointenthusiast1306
@taurushipointenthusiast1306 3 жыл бұрын
Uberti wins By markings and fit and finish, Some are that shallow me personally no Markings no big deal with me and that fit/finish I like file/sandpaper, and the tinkering...For me, it is tied not much difference between other than price I do not consider marking placement a $100 mark up. Good gun all the same
@profile2047
@profile2047 Ай бұрын
You say nothing against Pietta on were their markings are. But I think that is, and should be, against Pietta. It’s unnecessary, especially if Uberti doesn’t do it. So, I’d definitely say a point against Pietta there.
@davidfernandes920
@davidfernandes920 5 ай бұрын
Hope you'll forgive a possibly dumb question, is there much of a difference between a steel or brass frame on these 1851 revolvers? I'm considering getting into black powder revolvers.
@1972myc
@1972myc 9 ай бұрын
Today I ordered one in 2023, the difference between the Uberti (Brass trigger guard) and the Pietta is only $25. The Uberti is $375, and Pietta $350. Both new.
@donaldfuller5058
@donaldfuller5058 26 күн бұрын
I’m thinking about nickeling my pietta 1851 navy but I love the color of the other navy’s grips over the pietta. And when I nickel it I’m going to fell in the lettering on the barrel because it looks like dog poop. But I do love the brass on it and that it is a .36 caliber too. And I’m going to have to fix it so a can use more than round balls too. I did think about titanium but I don’t want it to look like a unicorn fart when it gets hot and changes color but if can titanium the inside of the cylinders and barrel I may do that more for rust prevention but I don’t know one way or another about it. But nickel looks good and yes I thought about gold for a second or two. And the preparation to nickel it would fix the issues the pietta has in my books.
@steel440
@steel440 Ай бұрын
I had a 1851 Uberti about 20 years ago, thing kept having parts fly falling off the more I shot it and that was with a medium charge
@johncreed2627
@johncreed2627 Жыл бұрын
Uberti hands down, Pietta, from people I know, has quality control issues.
@rick0596
@rick0596 3 жыл бұрын
Good informative video. I have both revolvers as well. I don't favor one or the other because they are both fun to shoot, To me that's the important thing
@janivarsrvaag5137
@janivarsrvaag5137 3 жыл бұрын
i love those cap and bolguns tums upp for colt s
@warrennorman4925
@warrennorman4925 3 жыл бұрын
I'll take one of each, but in all candor, I'm sure the uberti would be in the right holster, because Its prettier and the right always seems to come out first. Great video
@PROPHET-47
@PROPHET-47 26 күн бұрын
The both barrels inside has not smooth mirror structure, is it normal?
@crossdrawjohn821
@crossdrawjohn821 3 жыл бұрын
I own both. I Injoy both. Both shoot great and I have to say there fun to shoot. Ive made the triggers better for smooth let off and trigger pull this was easy to do. Buy one !!! Shoot one!!! and give the pistol a chance. Some say the clean up is a pain to me it's a labor of love.. Have fun.. Crossdrawjohn.
@franklinAll8735
@franklinAll8735 3 жыл бұрын
I go exclusively with Pietta's and it has nothing to do with them being cheaper. With all my Ubertis I had two major problems that are absent in Pietta's but are deal breaking, alteast for me. First of all, if any of my Ubertis had imperfect timing, the bolt would beat up and deform notches in cylinder and develop barrel to chamber misalignment over time. I don't know what kind of steel Uberti uses but it is soft as mush and gets deformed by simply using the gun. Pietta's steel was never known to be of decent quality but it is not quite THAT bad! The gun won't destroy itself, atleast. Second issue with Uberti Colts is improper (too short, check that out) cylinder axis length which develops all kinds of weird issues like excessive, uneven cylinder gap and higher-than-usual wedge wear. Cheers.
@jeffrey4547
@jeffrey4547 7 ай бұрын
now days uberti makes all the black powder guns for colt and they use colt patens and according to colt uberti uses a high quality metals for there guns . i watch a video by colt on their black powder guns and they do a 3x pressure test on all the black powder guns they sell with their name on it pietta failed the test
@cathat227
@cathat227 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Army and and navy they both have the same problem 1858 Remington and 1851 navy colt total poo poo
@steveharvey7712
@steveharvey7712 Жыл бұрын
Question, Are the parts interchangeable between the two companies?
@GunsOfTheWest
@GunsOfTheWest Жыл бұрын
Not on the 1851 Navy models. On the 1860’s you can swap the rammers, but I think that’s the only part.
@yearight1205
@yearight1205 2 жыл бұрын
I need a Lemat Revolver that I can actually locate here in the midwest. Any chance you have any clues how to find such a gun? I am at a loss. I'm not used to hunting down remakes of old guns, so I could use help if you have any clue.
@bobsradio6025
@bobsradio6025 3 жыл бұрын
If cost is an issue and you just want one to have a little fun with, get one with a brass frame. If you need something that will fill a larger hand, then put on the longer trigger guard, backstrap and grips from an 1860 Army. They will fit the 1851, 1860, 1861 and the 1873 SAA. All those parts can be found at Dixie Gun Works, as well as a few other places.
@denster274
@denster274 3 жыл бұрын
One very important difference that you neglected to mention is that the Uberti arbor does not bottom out in it's socket in the barrel. This will allow the wedge if driven in with any force to close up the barrel cylinder gap and tie up the gun. Colt had the arbor bottom out in the originals and Pietta has the arbor bottom out. This allows the wedge to do it's only job which is to lock the two unit together as one. This can't be done with Uberti unless the problem is corrected. Uberti has known of this problem for years and even tried to do a cheap fix of increasing the arbor diameter slightly for about 1/4in right at the front of the cylinder this made for an interference fit with the barrel and iis why new Ubertis can be so hard to take apart. The arbor hole soon gets wallowed out and the fix is done. Big win for Pietta who charges less for doing it right.
@FrankOldread
@FrankOldread 10 ай бұрын
Hmmm. I must have an earlier Uberti. It has the engraving on the barrel clearly on the lower right side rather than under the lever.
@sethdonahue3441
@sethdonahue3441 2 жыл бұрын
you forgot the cap guide uberti is cut deeper and easier to cap. and I have colts and the parts are interchangeable at most part. but the pieta will not they are good revolvers but they are their own animal .
@philbunston9663
@philbunston9663 2 жыл бұрын
I've found that Pietta usually has the cut in the standing breech for the exit of spent caps as per colt originals and Uberti doesn't .
@claytonalexander9105
@claytonalexander9105 2 жыл бұрын
What about interchangeability in parts. IE the barrels please?
@ralphperez4862
@ralphperez4862 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison my friend.
@baxter32107
@baxter32107 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Pietta has a better steel.
@History_Coffee
@History_Coffee 3 жыл бұрын
I can tell that pietta was your first because of the dents by the wedge lol (my first bp revolver has very similar dents)
@theghostly7
@theghostly7 2 жыл бұрын
So what is with the difference in machining where the ball or conical bullet is inserted on the barrel side of the pistol. looks like the pietta has a much larger relief machined into it than the uberti.
@CharleyHamas
@CharleyHamas 11 ай бұрын
Good luck getting #10 percussion caps
@TravisTLK
@TravisTLK 3 жыл бұрын
I have several Cimarron imported Ubertis, both cap-n-ball and center fire. I have also talked to Greg at Cimarron on the phone. I have been very pleased with the quality of the arms they sell, and the customer service. I really appreciate the font/script Cimarron uses in their barrel markings. It's has an "old timey" look.
@hoppinggnomethe4154
@hoppinggnomethe4154 9 ай бұрын
Cimarron is very dedicated to their stuff. My trip to their Texas Jack store in Fredericksburg, TX was awesome. The guy at the counter was super helpful and informative. He knows a lot about American firearms of the Old West.
@ronrobertson59
@ronrobertson59 7 ай бұрын
You forgot the groves on the hammer Uberti wins.
@jharchery4117
@jharchery4117 Ай бұрын
Very good review. Thanks.
@mcscheck2000
@mcscheck2000 3 жыл бұрын
I like everything but that bright ORANGE grip...
@derekcarmona
@derekcarmona 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Dustin... Thank You again for a most informative and interesting reporting. Will there be reporting, and we are hopeful, of and about enthusiasts gatherings, fairs, market conventions and the likes? Looking forward to your next episode. Derek (new black powder enthusiast and western cosplayer 🤗😁)
@tylertapp131
@tylertapp131 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, I'm looking into a pietta 1860 snub nose. I wanna get a conversion cylinder for it do you know if the pietta and uberti cylinders are interchangeable?
@GunsOfTheWest
@GunsOfTheWest 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t used either of them, but I’m pretty certain they would not be interchangeable.
@anoldmaninthewoods2548
@anoldmaninthewoods2548 3 жыл бұрын
My first, and for now, cap&ball is an Uberti 1858 New Army and I love it. At the time, Uberti was the only choice at the store so I have not experienced Pietta, but watching this video I'm leaning toward my next cap&ball to be an Uberti as well. Thanks!
@RoninAvenger
@RoninAvenger 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely go with Uberti. My 1851 Navy was made just this year, and it is in excellent shape. I think they've corrected the issues some were having out of the box in previous productions.
@sethdonahue3441
@sethdonahue3441 2 жыл бұрын
you forgot the cap guide uberti is cut deeper and easier to cap.
@clausewitz6968
@clausewitz6968 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dustin for your paper cartridges reloading kit, I have received. Good stuff!
@darrellgoodman9585
@darrellgoodman9585 3 жыл бұрын
I have the CVA F,LLI Pietta in the white and 44cal Navy.
@PistolPete454
@PistolPete454 2 жыл бұрын
I also have both in my collection . Also found the uberti to be that little bit better finish . Am happy with both companies revolvers . The extra dollars for the uberti has been forgotten about with in a month after the purchase . I do have one brass frame CVA , it has gotten just a bit lose over the years. The spring is stronger the harder to cock >>hammer hits harder .
@deandeann1541
@deandeann1541 2 жыл бұрын
Which one has the stiffer spring?
@stevehughes4379
@stevehughes4379 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Dustin! Straight forward on your comparison and it will help on decision making for folks like me!
@eliinthewolverinestate6729
@eliinthewolverinestate6729 2 жыл бұрын
Cost. I went with the 1851 pepper box.
@dalesearcy5734
@dalesearcy5734 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dustin. Have you been able to find out where all the percussion caps have gone? Did the manufactures stop making them to help ramp up primer production?
@TacticalTerry
@TacticalTerry 2 жыл бұрын
Remington in particular stopped making Remington #10 caps at one point. Hoping they will start again when the moment is right.
@JJW3
@JJW3 3 жыл бұрын
Another difference I've noticed between the two brands is the muzzle chamfer or bevel at the end of the bore. My Ubertis have a nice bevel, while my Piettas have none or just the slightest hint of one.
@giantasiansticker8880
@giantasiansticker8880 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I like and have a pietta
@Larry--qn4dd
@Larry--qn4dd 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, I have both pietta's , and uberti's in my collection and have noticed the same differences, so on my 61 navy pietta I decided to give it a distressed antique look and it turned out great, the uberti's are too pretty to do that to.
@michaelrhodes2589
@michaelrhodes2589 3 жыл бұрын
Just got a Uberti 1851 Navy London in the mail today. I also got the Guns of the West paper cartridge kit.
@GunsOfTheWest
@GunsOfTheWest 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@alainmorin
@alainmorin 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! I also noticed that the Pietta locking bar does not look as "tight" (fitting) as the Uberti?
@glisa43
@glisa43 3 жыл бұрын
I think Pietta is got better color wooden grips.
@GunsOfTheWest
@GunsOfTheWest 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with that. Thanks for watching!
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear 3 жыл бұрын
I just recieved an Uberti Leech & Rigdon Navy, and my first impression upon opening the box: _Is that a Pietta grip?_ It wasn't as red nor shiny as I have come to expect, as I have two other Ubertis to compare it with. 2020 manufacture date, so maybe the crisis has forced Uberti to cut back on how much polyurethane they can afford to use...
@keithhagler502
@keithhagler502 3 жыл бұрын
30 years shooting cap and ball. I've had Pietta's, but they are not correct by any means. The writing on the side of barrels, rifling being too shallow, and the incorrect grip contour, not to mention the blueing, which looks like high-gloss paint. I simply cannot justify spending money on one. In fact, I would not spend $50 for a new one. I only own and buy Ubertis. They are the Colt's of this era. Of course, not hand fitted and all are CNC made, but yes, the Colt's of this era.
@MrCarGuy
@MrCarGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Nonsense. It's just branding. The Ubertis have objectively had more fatal machining flaws from the factory (especially with the cylinder pin). Both revolvers need to be gone through and polished, regardless, and the backstrap & grips are ridiculously easy to form into the correct shape and refinish on the Pietta if desired. If you're skilled with your hands the Pietta offers more of a clean sheet to make it what you want it to be. And you can easily get them better than any Ubertis from the factory with minimal effort
@michaelpage4199
@michaelpage4199 3 жыл бұрын
First time watching. Great video
@annodomini7887
@annodomini7887 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so ridiculous to me that all you can buy is some Italian revolver weather it’s pietta or uberti without breaking the bank. Colt should knock the price down. I’d rather save for years to own a “COLT” Rather than an Italian copy of an American icon...
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 Жыл бұрын
So a Czech-owned company.
@NathanG454
@NathanG454 3 жыл бұрын
This is the second video of yours that I’ve watched today. And I’m subscribing great videos by the way
@GunsOfTheWest
@GunsOfTheWest 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@nikitamckeever5403
@nikitamckeever5403 2 жыл бұрын
Uberti for me , although 🤔
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 2 жыл бұрын
Original Colts were gain twist.
@JWheeler331
@JWheeler331 3 жыл бұрын
And don’t forget the shape of the grip frame. They swell out towards the back at the bottom which is not the case on real colts from the period. Another good video Dustin.
@jordanhowell3870
@jordanhowell3870 2 жыл бұрын
the actions sound identical.
@cathat227
@cathat227 3 жыл бұрын
My nipples were also rusted
@independentthinker8930
@independentthinker8930 3 жыл бұрын
Love my Uberti new model army
@gregorybrown4062
@gregorybrown4062 3 жыл бұрын
So I have more than one of both manufacturers. The Pietas use a .375" ball. The Ubertis use a .380" ball. .375" balls are a lot easier to find and are cheaper to buy
@kenm8376
@kenm8376 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to look at my original Colt 1851 and see the bore direction
@GunsOfTheWest
@GunsOfTheWest 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to hear what you find out!
@normangerring4645
@normangerring4645 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dustin, good information.
@brassrainbow5568
@brassrainbow5568 3 жыл бұрын
As always another great video sir!
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